I can say it does both but this movie to me would of been good back in the 80ties

this movie was like suicide….in slow motion

VERY DEPRESSING

then again I kinda knew what to expect when I read ‘PUSH’ a few yrs ago….

can we have a movie about positive uplifting black family relationships???

no shuk’n and yuckin?
nobody get shot or go to jail?
no females actin s**tty?
no mean wearing dresses?

no females actin 5lutty & no MEN wearing dresses?

This movie is neither, thats just my opinion

Inspiring?/Stereotypical? How bout depressing, negative & predictable.

This movie exposes what is happening and what people don’t want to fadce is happening. They should have had Dr. Cornell West debating this. He would have set their souls on fire. He don’t play! He’ sthe real thing, too real for most people.

I dont think its either…it wasnt even that good of a movie. except for monique. i find the movie a bit exaggerated.

The question i do have about this movie is why is this suppose to be the biggest movie in african american history? I mean i would think malcolm x was one of the best movies, but i guess hollywood dosent see it that way.

FOLKS – News flash!!! THIS IS A MOVIE, it is not a portrayal of every African American in the United States. But no one can deny that the role that Precious plays does not happen. Again it is a movie about an uncomfortable subject. Please let’s grow past the perceived slight or the something negative that will give the illusion that the world will view all Black people the same as they see in a movie; yes some people will always see us that way. If we don’t get past this chain of thought, then there will never be another movie made where Black people are in it!

I am not big on TV, DVD’s or Movies. I work in a field in which I recognized many parts of Moniques role. I saw her eyes, in an Asian woman’s face, who wanted to keep the molester of her daughter out of jail. I heard her words as a grandmother explained why her daughter was beating her grandchildren (she blamed her own anger for the sins her daughter was committing). Monique spoke for the abused and the abusers.

Monique placed me in a place I thought I had grown out of. My anger returned for the plight of many who know this world too intimately. I would have beat her down in the street had I bumped in to her as I left the theater. She played the part too well. I am proud of her!

It will be what it is to every person watching. For some it will be inspirational, for some it is “Just” another stereotypical movie and for some it is their truth. Take from it the good that we should. Something many abused know is that Even within the world of the negative are flowers of change and good!

The Precious debate. You don’t want to miss it.

YES I DO

Honestly, there was nothing inspiring about this film, and it was a bit over exaggerated. Don’t get me wrong the cast of this movie did an amazing job with their roles, especially Monique who just completely transformed in her role. I just wish black actors/actresses weren’t so heavily praised for their negative roles more and not recognized for their positive roles. For example, Halle Berry won an Oscar for Monster’s Ball(which I still don’t understand why), but Angela Bassett didn’t win an Oscar for her brilliant portrayal of Tina Turner. And Denzel Washington who won his second Oscar for being a crooked cop in Training Day, and not for his role as Malcolm X,(which should have won for best movie in my opinion, but Hollywood disses Spike Lee because he tells the truth in his films). Yall see my point? But I guess it just depends on the individual about this film.

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Honestly, i dont see what the hype is all about.Personally, i didnt think the movie was all that good. The best part of the movie is at the end when monique explained why she acted the way she did.

How come blacks only get nominated r win for roles that show us at our worst? Lets go all the way back to Hattie McDaniel aka Mammy, as a yes ma’amin slave woman and now Precious a self hating black girl who’s BLACK parents are depicted as some the worst people on the planet, and the only ppl who are there for her are mulattos aka half WHITE folks. Hollywood really is showin us what they think of us aren’t they.

This film won a ridiculous amount of awards. It was overkill. Seeing black women as victims and bullys seems to sell in Hollywood which shows there’s some serious mental issues with those who consider this to be entertainment.
Black Snake Moan had the same affect. As far as I know it didn’t even get a nomination. Apparently, the Academy doesn’t like those kind of films.

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Both. Being on BP for some years, dating, I met/encountered many of “Precious.” About 95% of the women I dated, met were abused sexually and physically. One sista actually told me it was ok to abuse her…one time! It’s shocking to have found this out, etc. And the lightskin, darkskin ordeal…as a African American society, many of put some lightskin people on pedestals (i.e. our TV shows, movies and videos, usually the main character is lightskin and the second fiddle chararcter’s are darker and buffoonish. See “Meet the Paynes” “Do the Right Thing”) and we (some of us) continue to say when a attractive darkskin person passes us, “She/he looks good to be black.” “Precious” saw ‘lightskin’ as being priviledge!!

PS: PLEASE read the Autobiography of Malcolm X. To me, a lil, Spike cooned it a little bit and you’re right, Denzel’s portrayal of Brother Malcolm and Ms. Bassett’s role (in What’s Love Got to Do With It) should have won numerous of performance awards, etc.

Precious tells a story. It’s function is neither to inspire or stereotype. That is for the audience to determine. Personally I found it uplifting but not in a phony way that so many message films get bogged down in. It is real. If any black person claims to not know a Mary Jones or a Precious, that person is a liar. It was a story that needed to be told.

One disappointing thing for me about the movie was the casting. In the book the character played by Paula Patton is described as dark-skinned with dreads. I think this choice in some ways betrays the book and undermines the whole message. My theory is that light-skinned actors are being used as proxies for whites so that by relating to these characters a white audience can feel invited into the film and at the same time have their white guilt appeased.

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Its Soo Hard being Black These Days!! I Hate How My People Excepts BULLS**T!! If you Think Precious Represents your Black Community I Feel Sorry for Your Hood!! Those well off Negroes(Oprah&Friends) are Making Fun of Your Broke Ass&Getting Money+Awards in The Process!! In St. Louis We Call That a Lick!? Dummies!!!!!!!!Get yo Minds Right!!

i think it could be classified as a horror!!! seriously…i’ll say it again..it’s unrealistic…because EVERYONE in this movie had a problem! from the social worker to the teachers…(not judging) …it’s unrealistic because how in the hell can you have a social worker that ‘can’t handle it’ and walks out the office? trust me…the least of her problems after doing something like that would be to get her license revoked! especially with child services…and i agree with another blogger none of the teachers noticed that she was pregnant with no boyfriend twice? no neighbors, teachers, or just an average person in their community noticed that she was being abused? i thought t was stereotypical and unrealistic all in one horrid so-called story! and to that creator or director: ‘no this is not ‘our’ story! there is a saying that art imitates life and vice versa…people just don’t ‘imagine’ scenarios like that in a book or movie and try to pass it off as fiction…this had to be in the forefront of the artist’s consciousness. YOU NEED PSYCHOLOGICAL HELP YOU CAN AFFORD IT!’

I would have to agree that in my opinion it’s neither stereotypical nor inspirational! First off the movie came to an ending without a real conclusion! The dreams that she had throughout the movie had no real motives nor did she even get a chance to make her dreams a reality! The movie was totally pointless and wouldve ment much more had she made more accomplishments at the end of the movie! I would say that it’s not stereoptypical because, this is the type of life style that alot of minority families choose to live especially Blacks! You may see alot of people on here gettn upset about this movie sayn its a stereotype but, I believe that people only choose to get overly angry about things that they know are true but are too ashamed to admitt it!

WezB37 I totally agree with you 100 baby!

Did that nygga just call precious a classical figure? This nygga is definitely gon lose the debate

I will say this

if you are here this Friday 2 get N2 a so called DEBATE about some bullshlt you need 2 stick yo self pretty tony I SAID STICK YO-SELF!!! lmao

Yep you Goldie’s bich if you be here 2 address a nothing azz topic
I will additionally give a roster of topics that ZeroNews should want 2 sponsor Debate on;

1 Obama and his Agenda thus far
2 Your Human Rights
3 Articles of Association vs Constitution
4 Single Family Homes the how and why this trend plaques Blacks more than any
5 Welfare and the Woman’s role into Ushering the State as the Father of her child tie that in with the SS# & Birth Cert.
6 What are DERIVATIVES and how has this weakened this Nation
7 Pres. Obama’s Cabinet’s background and their disasterous past
8 Concealed Weapons Rights
9 The History of Poe-Lice Brutality
10 Charging the Chicago Police Department with Fred Hampton’s Murder
11 The Genocidal Agenda against the BPP, MLK, Malcolm X and others
12 The Black role players inside the COINTELPRO (Al Sharpton and others)
13 Curriculum within Public Schools and why young black men choose 2 chance they future on the streets rather than School or Church
14 The Black Household the destruction and the refurbishing of it
15 The Media and the Longevity of Biased subliminal rhetoric
16 The New Racism color-blind Racism and the Future of Whiteness in America
17 The Falsehood of Politrickal Parties and the deceitful tactics
18 Why Afrakans around the Globe are the lower caste
19 The Suicidal phenomenom of Federal Reserve Notes & the “get rich or die trying” agenda that blares within the Black Psyche and trumps Morality

I have a plethera of others
so ZeroNews shut that bullshlt down and BOAST an article of DEBATE of one of my examples

i don’t know where a lot of you live…but this ‘story’ is not how blacks or minorities ‘choose’ to live…again…this is not ‘our’ story…yes there are thousands of children that are abused every day whites and minorities bu….this is not EVERYONE’S reality…there are actually strong african-american fathers rich and poor that wouldn’t dream of even doing something like this…or letting their child be abused…especially african-american mothers!!! i mean are you serious? let hollyweird…stereotype YOU!!! this movie sheds a bad light on social workers and teachers…of all races and lifestyles!!

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Oh My God!
Contrary to the way that some of where people live and what they have been through, some people do and have experienced what is in this movie to a certain point and on some level.
A movie is never going to be in the same exact form as your lives.
This is what really bugging me about some people. If the dam story does not reflect what you know in your life, step back and recognize the fact that we are not all people.
Also realize that some people are really still going through stuff that other people could never ever FATHOM!

In my opinion, if this ONE movie is ruffling your heathers, let me make you a list so you will REALLY have a reason to have a stroke.
People please.

I THOUGHT THE MOVIE WAS AIGHT NOT THAT GOOD BUT STUFF HAPPENS LIKE THIS FOR REAL IT JUST DOESN’T HAVE TO BE A FEMALE IT CAN BE A MALE TOO

I saw this movie and there is nothing inspiring about it!!! It was downright sad and does not deserve any type of accolades in the award category whether it is the Oscars, NAACP, Emmys, etc.
The main character was depressing, Monique was disgusting.
Sure this type of story happens in real life and there are other movies that are just as disturbing, but the hoopla about this movie is bannanas!!! I guess a movie that shows the downtrodden of black people gets all the praise.
Another thing, I cannot stand seeing that meatball with feet (the main character in Precious) I cannot remember her name – but seeing her gives me a stomach ache!!! Sorry to sound mean and vain, I am a man and entitled to my opinions — like they say an opinion is like an a$$hole – everyone has one!!!
And Monique, I am just tired of seeing her, I cannot stand her talkshow, or anything she does!!!

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I will not be watching the debate and yet I will state that the movie “Precious” is an inspirational movie based upon stereotypes from all sides which is where millions of our ColoredNegroBlackCreoleAfrican-American girls, females, women find themselves in when society begins pressuring them into a box where there are all sorts of limits being forced upon them and a life of drudgery and acceptance is all they have to look forward to especially when judgement from all sides begin and those that are a primary factor in all of it begin to pretend that they are not is where Monique finds herself and from that is where Precious is on the receiving end of all that the character of Monique has had to endure and because of the limited resources and access of release for Monique’s Character is where all of the anger, hurt, pain and desolutionment comes into play and remains there which forces Precious to find a way of escape and acceptance of her beauty when there was no one to give her that. Ava “Precious” “Pookie” Sharee Cain-White.

I agree totally with missstings43. Where is our freedom??? So what does this mean?? If I want to write a story about something personal good or bad, I have to get the approval of every black scholar and leader before it can be published. There are evil people in every race. There are terrible secrets in every family. Who has the right to tell someone not to tell their story??? Precious does not reflect all black families. These horrific things happen more than we may want to know, in every race and culture.

the movie is wonderful and awesome! we blacks are the bomb! who said we can not do it………… they aint know anything…. very soon we will soon show the entire world our worth…..boyakaaaaaa……… thumbs up for the up raging blacks

Infact we black are the best in d world so do not under estimate us,cos without su dere is no white.but all dat matters now is dat confidence cos confidence changes one’s outlook on life and it is also a valuable attribute.and dat confidence is wat we sold out 4 d white.dat is to say everyfin was done through blacks

This is a truth going on in life, but not just in the Black community. For one, you have to look at who made the movie. Monster’s Ball, Pulpfiction, etc., they all have negative subliminal messages for Blacks and he sells it as a black thing when I think it’s his opinion of us. (Some Blacks Don’t like Blacks either) Anyway, I’m a single male Black Parent who raised a boy and girl, so I’m not bothered by the movie I know he’s not talking about me.
But what bothers me about the movie is the hopelessness disguised as attempts to help the poor child. Why she couldn’t trust the White caseworker was strange but she could trust Mirah (who had to let you know she was not white) even though a good caseworker would have called the authorities to lock Mo’nique up when she came in the office and confess as she did right in front of Mariah.And the school teacher (who had to let us know she was Gay)didn’t call the police after that fight so the mother could be locked up for assault, and attempted murder of a minor!!( Her and [the baby!!]fell down the steps!!) Even in 1987 there was emergency relief
and shelters. The movie shows the only recourse she had was support from the teacher. The teacher help was good, but if she had called the police someone would have taken it from there. This sends a bad message to young women in the same situation who don’t run in to “Heroines” like this school teacher. Also the sexuality and race implications gave me the impression that Black heterosexuals are bad and Black homosexuals are good
and don’t trust authority unless it “funky blak cool” like Miriah Carrie.LOL In some cases the authority maybe all you got. And another thing, why did she have to get AIDS. That homosexuality on the downlow is a DEVERSION to the spread of AIDS through reaquintance with prior incarcerated felons, due to the high incarceration of Afro American Men.
It is a psychological fact that men incarcerated serving long sentences [Years] will engage in Homosexual sex when exposed to homosexuals.(What choice do they have? You try holding out for years at Twenty something)
That their bottom line, now here’s mine. Don’t keep supporting movies made by ignorant negroes hired by ignorant White folk who tell you that this your art and culture. You lived Black all your life and you know different. Like the East Indians and Asians it’s time to make our own Hollywood. We need to invest in our own distribution and theatre like we did long ago. Stop let them decide who movies get funded and seen.

I will say this
if you are here this Friday 2 get N2 a so called DEBATE about some bullshlt you need 2 stick yo self pretty tony I SAID STICK YO-SELF!!! lmao
Yep you Goldie’s bich if you be here 2 address a nothing azz topic

I will additionally give a roster of topics that ZeroNews should want 2 sponsor Debate on;
1 Obama and his Agenda thus far
2 Your Human Rights
3 Articles of Association vs Constitution
4 Single Family Homes the how and why this trend plaques Blacks more than any
5 Welfare and the Woman’s role into Ushering the State as the Father of her child tie that in with the SS# & Birth Cert.
6 What are DERIVATIVES and how has this weakened this Nation
7 Pres. Obama’s Cabinet’s background and their disasterous past
8 Concealed Weapons Rights
9 The History of Poe-Lice Brutality
10 Charging the Chicago Police Department with Fred Hampton’s Murder
11 The Genocidal Agenda against the BPP, MLK, Malcolm X and others
12 The Black role players inside the COINTELPRO (Al Sharpton and others)
13 Curriculum within Public Schools and why young black men choose 2 chance they future on the streets rather than School or Church
14 The Black Household the destruction and the refurbishing of it
15 The Media and the Longevity of Biased subliminal rhetoric
16 The New Racism color-blind Racism and the Future of Whiteness in America
17 The Falsehood of Politrickal Parties and the deceitful tactics
18 Why Afrakans around the Globe are the lower caste
19 The Suicidal phenomenom of Federal Reserve Notes & the “get rich or die trying” agenda that blares within the Black Psyche and trumps Morality

I have a plethera of others
so ZeroNews shut that bullshlt down and BOAST an article of DEBATE of one of my examples

a debate? Seriously?..damn liberals have nothin else to do huh?

Let’s look at this objectively. The awards given to black actors have in all but Jamie fox’s case been about negative portrayals of our people. Where is the positive in that? Or is an award, an award despite the stereotypical opinion white America has of us? Why didn’t Denzel get one for Steve Biko, or Malcolm or for the Hurricane? And why did Halle deserve one at all when actresses like Angela or Cicely are routinely ignored? We know there are problems in every society. Trust me, we do not need to put in in film. We live it. They know it. Elevate.

It just think it’s tired, no matter how good the drama and acting were; how many inner city struggle films do they need to make?

i so agree with nightlow368 and myeyez adore you white america is forcing us too watch things that we arlready know of although i come from the suburbs white area . it saddens me that they have to put this on film we arlready know what they go through why put it on a film to let everyone see they see african americans on the street they think oh look poor kid ignorant ghetto child are something lets make good movies not sterotypical movies that we arlready know of monique can act but i dont think she deserve that award .

Jeez’!It’s just a friggin’movie,but as the cliche goes,”If the shoe fits,wear it.”Sometime these black longwinded “intellectuals” make me sick.Just tune into this years “State Of The Black Union”.

this is typical of the crap being shoved in our faces….what is oprahs problem that she must produce all these movies that show black men as monsters? color purple, beloved, etc…. oh, i forgot….she works for the white media and their intersest…note to all young black folk…money will make you sell your momma out and sell your soul….what redeeming qualities does this flick provide? none….and tyler perry? i would use the f word to describe him, but his buffonery and coonism and drag getup have already made most folks see him as a damn sellout and homo with issues against black people…..

kudos mr nanastroker….you smack the nail on the head…..

This is a serious question! The proformance was spectacular, but the realistic issue’s that lie yes they played right into what we as a nation or at least as a people should strive to stop! Every generation is in split they get better and at the same time get worst creating a drastic split. I was very emotional when I realized the mother was on welfare and was promoting that this occur to the next generation for whatever jealous reasons. Unfortunatly I have been witness to this genarational poison. The facts are the women do it without realizing this is not a good look muchless it’s the worst kind of poison you can give cause most likely her words hold power and if she as the women the bearer of life wants to stifle life. what can we do, we live in a country that no longer believe in discipline. After years of conditioning and posion that doesn’t seem to come out no matter how you change the rules of the game! So at the end of the day a proformance of how we are shown and how some of our live’s actually are yes jaws will drop but after they drop whats the next step? To speak and point fingers and then what! Some will cry and some will look at this picture and realize that will never be them! Or at least make up in thier mind that I will not be a statistic, others will pick up new ways to get more from the system and why hate the cow thats giving free milk! Some people love it easy some love to work for it! These movie’s just give us a wake up call!

~ Natalya Toney, 26
I refuse to be what anyone labels me to be! I choose to only be me!

What is stereotypical about things that actually happens?

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Not necessarily stereotypical, but the concept behind the movie is old. Not taking away from it being a gud movie tho, just the idea is worn territory.

I don’t even wanna comment. what an aweful debate, precious as it goes is just a movie dont make something out of nothing. not so much stereotypical or inspiring as an episode of “house of payne” great morals concept as old as the civil war atleast. Its a complete waste of time to have a debate over a movie as if it was something like obama, inspirational or cop out.

The “usual” stereotypes:

Fat, black and ugly

Unemployed, irresponsible, poor diets, abusive/absent parent; yada, yada, yada.

Addendum: BP, if you delete my post AGAIN (I know that it is you, for anything that I post about our black people in the positive and kick the asses of you euro-clowns to the curb, you “delete” it). The truth hurts, doesn’t it?

phazex_female you are right this movie is stereotypical, but if you watch most movies and television shows they are also. People relate to and appreciate topics they are familiar with. I look at it like this: Several minorities are working and getting paid, and its not involving anything demeaning to them. The actors or actresses in this movie did not have to be in it if they did not want to!

Peace,
This is not just a movie but it is a true story that happen to this young girl(so i heard). This girl did a great job playing the part. I think it’s a eye opener and yes it looks bad but it’s real. Okay so it is a sterotype towards black folks but this might still be happening in someones home today. It’s sterotypes in all race of people. I just think it’s no need for a debate on this movie. We need to stop and focus on building unity in the black community. Join the group liberate our minds (Malcom X)
Salaam

PAUL MOONEY was on the Mo’Nique show last night (Thursday March 4th 2010)

he said blacks are becomming Black-AngloSaxons LOL

he said a bunch of thangs on there, waitin for someone to youtube it

how bout a movie where Lil Kim & Flavor Flav get married ????

I truly felt this film degraded the African American Race. It truly seems that if we come out of character and reveal ourselves as being needy or beneath our counter-parts they are willing to give us attention. The slavery type mentality is what we are being awarded for. Halle Berry received her award because she slept with the mast-sa. And Danzel Washington received his award because he played a deceitful police officer. As long as we are degraded we are awarded. Precious was the worst film I have ever seen in my life. There is no film that compares. At least color purple had some type of underlining message that was meaningful. I could not relate to the movie at no cost. I didn’t find it one bit funny. It was truly embarrassing to African-Americans.

Lade-Vee, I’ve never seen Precious, but when I saw the trailer, some of the stuff that ur saying was going through my head, esp. why black ppl win awards. Don’t think I wanna see it.

the thing that irks me…most people never read the book that it is based on.

All artists and industry professionals seek success and awards for their work and many talented African Americans have represented their craft, and their own ethnicity with the utmost integrity. However, we are far past the stereoptypes of Step in Fetch it, Beulah, Amos and Andy, etc. We’ve also transcended the suggested idea that all African Americans are pimps, drug dealers, w***es, welfare recipients or even the Cosbys.

Beyond the present day, social images of African Americans, there is a wealth of extremely interesting stories and circ**stances that reflect a dynamic and powerful culture, minus being victims of oppression, biases, low self-esteem and self-hatred.

The young lady who played the character Precious did so very well as did Monique, but also being a trained actor, it seemed to me as though they both were type-cast. I think I saw Monique as she may have been before achieving success or she had to have lived in an environment that greatly influenced her acting — too real.

“Precious” was both inspiring to some and sterotypical to others. To those facing similar challenges, I’m sure they were uplifted. But to those who prefer to see contributing, self-sufficient, African Americans taking on world issues and successfully functioning beyond the domestic realm, it just may seem an inferior product, praised by a designated audience and those who would gladly acknowledge your worst as your best. Didn’t the racist movie, “Birth of a Nation” win an award?

Precious= Modern day Color Purple.

In response to Lade_Vee, there are truly reason why you didn’t connect to the film. Some of them may be your lifestyle or your upbringing, whatever it is thats the reason why you didnt get the message. Precious was and will always be a great movie. I must say that I do like the book more than the movie, but the movie was great too. I believe if you’ve neve experienced the things that Miss Precious did then of course you’re a lost cause. How she was mistreated by her mother, raped by her mother’s boyfriend, and impregnated twice is all but the reason to be sympathetic towards the theme. This is REALITY. . .I think that most of what is wrong with our world is people don’t accept what is, and what will always be. I applaud Denzel Washington, and Halle Berry they deserved their oscars because they worked their a**es off. Not because they ‘acted’ a part that most feel is what ‘the man’ wants. We need to stop using this as an excuse, give credit where it is due, and move on. Just because this is what a movie depict, it doesnt mean that this is what happens in life. We have African-Americans who are worse off than Precious. So please, when you criticize think of more than just what you WANT our society to be like.

“Precious”–image wise, has set us back nearly a century.
Now this is not to say that the portrayals aren’t somewhat realistic because they are.
And this is not to say that there wasn’t some decent acting in the film as well because there was.
However, let’s get at the core issue here: the Black image in 21st century Hollywood.
Lee Daniels, the film’s director, stirred comparable controversy nearly a decade ago with his “Monster’s Ball” production.
I don’t know what it is about him but he has a horrible knack of making Black people look animalistic.
What do I mean by this?
Well according to the director, he told Monique upon choosing her for the role that he needed her to be a “monster.” A monster?
Now any of us who are familiar with old racial stereotypes and images of Blacks not only in Hollywood but in society at large, know that we’ve for years been viewed as such–monsters.
In collegiate and professional sports we’re often referred to as “beasts.” We’ve often been compared to primates–in particular apes and gorillas.
HIV/AIDS, which the obese and dark complexioned “Precious” character has, is said to have derived from a green monkey in Africa.
When a white “victim” gives a random description of his/her attacker–even without seeing the perpetrator, will say a “big Black male.”
Even our beloved Muhammad Ali, taunted Joe Frazier by pulling out a gorilla action figure during an interview, saying, “Come on gorilla, we in Manila.” As if to imply that because Frazier was dark skinned and with broader features that he was a gorilla.
And this is what I think of when I watch “Precious.”
Yes Precious is the quasi heroine of the film. She’s the one we root for, however, who are the ones she seeks solace with: two biracial women–her teacher and her caseworker.
And what does she envision as the standard mark of beauty: light skin and long hair (what she dreams of being). Even her imaginary lover is a biracial or Latino male.
Monique’s character, upon looking at her daughter’s newborn son says, “he takes after his daddy.” Why? Because the boy is light brown skin and in her mind there’s no way someone so ugly as her daughter could give birth to such.
Again I say that some of the images and dialogue is all too real within Black America, however, these are not affirming images by no means.
I say that if a white man had directed a film such as this we’d be up in arms calling for a boycott.
Where’s the NAACP on this? Aren’t they the ones who nearly 40 years ago led an all-out assault on films with primarily Black casts that they deemed presented false and degrading images of us? They termed those films “blaxploitation.”
And I ask again, where are they today with films like “Precious” and the countless straight to DVD films that in my opinion project far more detrimental and damning images of Blacks than many blaxploitation films ever had.
Is it because many of these films today are written, directed by Black people?
The bottom line for us should be to boycott any film by any director, regardless of race that demeans and denigrates us period.
We need to get back to protecting and preserving the Black image–esp today!

To: Lady_Vee, the film was a little depressing but, the acting was excellent. I have known people in my life like the characters in “Precious” which is what hit me like a body shot. I have to give the actors in this movie their props because they did what thespians do, they played their roles to a T. Actors win Oscars due to their ability to bring a character to life, to make that character believable and that is why Denzel and Halle won Oscars beloved. Blacks, nor any other race are perfect people and we do not live in a perfect world. Precious let us into her world, into her thoughts, and into her life. I enjoyed this movie very much.

While I haven’t read the book, I did see the movie, and it puzzles me how the word ” stereotype” is used about this movie and the Black community. To me a “stereotype” is something that is associated or happens to all. I don’t know about any one else here, but that wasn’t the norm at my house or anyone else that I know of. Now I acknowledge that those things DO happen, and as unfortunate as it is when it does, it is by no means the norm. If in this day and age if there are people who get their reality from a movie theater, then those same people wouldn’t be able to grasp reality if it was right there in front of them. “Stereotypes” are considered the norm, but this movie was definitely the opposite.

@ Chubbynkute–
You’re irked that many people never read the book that it’s based on is lame. One need not read the book to understand the depth and/or shallowness of the images involved. A lotta people who saw Gone with the wind didn’t read the book either! Reading the book is not a prerequisite to see that white folks are getting their jollies offa “Hard Out Here Bein’ A Pimp — part II”!!! (Theme of Precious– “It’s Hard Out Here Bein’ A Blimp”!!! We all hip to the poverty and other levels of insanity…something else is needed…

To me this movie is hitting so close to home for some people and the reason there is so much controversy is because so many African American children grew up in these type of home situations and no one really wants to deal with the facts. It is very depressing however it is true. Stanley Crouch is irritating to me because to me he is like an Uncle Rucus and needs to come into reality.

i think the reason why this movie upset alot of blacks is because there is some truth in this movie about alot of the black communitys i no some black women who just didnt give a damn about there kids all they was concerned about is the new guy and the kids got the shaft are got whatever if you dont thing that having almost 74% of black babies out of wedlock is not a problem your kidding yourself and things will only get worse because blacks dont like movies like this that has a lot of the truth in it and ps whites already no how screwed up alot of the black community is so who cares about what other races will think.

A message that can be taken from the movie is the miracle of “resilience”, that a child so abuse…and it happens in all cultures, black, white, brown, yellow, all ethnicities and races…but that spark that allows those children to survive in spite of the abuse. There are households where food is a weapon. There are children that grow to maturity without any words of love or comfort. But there are children that survive, thrive, grow-up. I am so sure that any child, or woman, who had the misfortune to share a similar life experience with Precious will recognize the spark, that is resilience. It is about a Black experience, there are many Blacks living that experience…the author of the book was Black, the actors are Black, the “Money” behind the film is Black…they are all telling their story of survival. The other reality is this isn’t the only portrail of abuse and incest…there are many, many, many set in the white cultures. We deserve to be able to tell the stories of abuse, for those of us overcoming abuse; just as much as we deserve the right to tell the other side. We are a diverse population with experiences on all levels of the human reality.

P.S.– Denzel had to play a dirty policeman, Halle had to show her titties and Morgan Freeman had to play a shufflin’ Uncle Tom to get their recognition fr the proverbial “wider audience”…This film is JUST WHAT whitefolks wanta see and project!!!!!

Ok – I understand the concern of the sociological implications Precious COULD have…sure SOME non blacks may internalizse what is seen & adopt it as a blanket perception of all blacks…BUT most ( well rounded college & life educated ) people know that the movie is what it is: A story about a girl in unfortunate circ**stances…she HAPPENS to be black…why cant it be this simple…?

One of the key points of the debate brought out by professor Antonio is that the film is a cultural artifact, but what does it contribute to the culture. There is no shortage of negative images of blacks in America. Some of these images serve to affect change because they highlight some negative aspect of our culture and provoke people to change it. While others only serve to reinforce the negative images that they portray. So the question becomes does the movie reinforce a negative images which only serves to bring black culture down or will the acclaim that this movie has received shine a light on some of the darker sides of our culture, forcing people to change them.

i think it shows the poor family in the 21st century. a uninspired mother teachin her daughter to be poor. not encouraging her or anything. no upward mobility. we all got family or some family members who in a demension or another reflect that. look at men in the jails. son in the same pen as the father. we need to break that where ever we see it. confront it with compasion.

blkman6ft6_inla says something so true most black women are so worried about their men they tend to neglect the children and i am so sick of seeing girls getting there hair done nails done and there kids look a mess how about helping with school work and getting involved with whats is going on in there life. i see it all day long. Women need to leave these no nothing men alone and i mean the ones that are no good and don’t care about the children. so many children suffer while there mothers live a live that all about there sexual satisfaction.

WHY is it that we are not able to submit our questions? I would truly love to join in on this conversation.

I just don’t understand why the film..we have seen these type of black dispara films before.. so we will continued to endorse these type of films? WE have a hostory of african americans who has changed this nation’s history..countless.. yet I have to go to Day of Discovery website to learn something positive who paved the way for me as a african american. Looking at the live broadcast..I totally disagree with Prof. Stanley. and usually anythihng he saids..I don’t like NONE of his editorials.

Precious is a movie that hollywood should not have done. I was afraid to watch something so horrific due to my own history of physical abuse at the hands of my mother and sisters. The ignorance and slothfulness of both Precious and Mary depicted by the movie showed the world the exact stereotype that we as women of color are trying to rid ourselves of. It’s like the naughty spring break photo that was taken 5+ years ago and as soon as we achieve a particular status in life it is thrown back up in our face to remind us of the horriable mistake in judgement that we made as a child. “When I was a child, I spake as a child and ahad a child’s mind…now that I am a man and speak as a man, I have put away my childish things…” Is this not also true for women or will we always be the ignorant second class citizens still earning .26 cents less and getting no respect from our male counterparts? Movies like this will always seperate us as a people. Uplift not tear down….

Stanley Crouch would be the absolute LAST person I would want to say anything on my behalf. He has definitely given the one side (whatever side he’s on) a distinct disadvantage. This is not a even sided debate.

To submit a comment to the live stream.. it is my understanding you have to go to the blackvoices web site as a registered member.

speaking of the doughboy in Boys in the Hood…as complex as that character was allowed to be, those same nuances were not illustrated in the character of his mother who, much moreso than the absent father..whose blame was allayed by way of his total absence from the film, was made to take almost 100% of the blame for who doughboy turned out to be. Just as with Precious’ character…the mother is the monster we all SEE…who ultimately bears more of the BLAME for her condition than the child molesting ABSENTEE father.

Stanley Crouch seems to have some type of hidden anger towards his own people and i can no longer watch this “debate” to me he is still suffering from Willie Lynch syndrome

@Quarter2midnite..true dat..not to take away from his work and status earned..but he is all the way to the RIGHT for sure.. sometimes it’s good to come to the center sometimes and just sit there and take in both sides of a given situation.. something Prof Stanley doesn’t do..EVER!

If Precious and movies like it are getting awards why not any film that holds an actual message…Do the Right Thing, Malcolm X, School Daze???
Movies where we are not depicted in a light where we are shuckin and jivin across the screen and eatin our watermelon in public. Great movies like Their Eyes were Watchin God, Black Girl, and What’s Love Gotta Do With it? were even greater movies, but it isn’t until we are shown in our own “habitat” or in an award winning embrace with a white man that we actually get reconition for our community. This is not he attention that we have ever wanted when we entered the doors of hollywood. Ok she played a maid and was not one, but what about the rest of us?

TRAGEDY! why?….Typical black girl suffering in the mean streets of the ghetto been there done that..enough said

..ok let get down to it and the source for the film and who directed and produced it..a blackman..I’m done! He knows how hollywood works when comes to the stereotype images of african americans on film and he went for it.. but better yet, these type of films are successful in nations with next to no african americans, the sundance film festival.. and they just love these type of films in Europe with regard to the african american diaspora..and we can pretend its just a movie.. but not a reality in the black communities? Which is it?.. Just a movie or a reality?

Very Inspiring…. Regardless of the bold colors of the movie and the colorful language that goes along with the situation; this is exactly what young people need to be exposed to. Why? because this type of thing happens everyday in our neighborhoods; regardless of if we want to admit it or not. I really hope that there are more movies like this one that would show and educate us on what really goes on behind your friends or neighbors closed doors. You should never past judgement on no one or attempt to figure anyone out or where they are going; until you know and completely understand where they have been.

And i don’t believe that its all about living up to a stereotype; this type of thing, happens in every community; with every race. However, the situation is what needs to be exposed; not the fact that the movie was aired with black faces. Let’s forget that it was African Americans that acted out this real life situation; lets say it was green people that re-enacted the role; people would still have something negative to say about the message. Real is Real, it’s not pretty, it’s not buffed, it’s pure and Raw; which may appear to be ugly to the bone; but is the most abundant and powerful characteristic to obtain or claim.

why r black people discussing a tyler perry movie,when we have a african american president who do not acknowledge the remaining descendants of slave victims,if many of our scholars have debated the issue and poured countless readings on the situation authors such as lerone bennet,john henrick clark,professor diop,el hagg malik shabazz,if these men knew of these issues why r they not good enough for the first black president,hati,cuba,africa,why are we always the slaughtered ones the most beautiful people on the earth.Whites are the filth of the earth england knew it but they use the lower class of whites to subject us blacks worldwide.

It’s not the movie or the book that’s the problem. As black people we care about what white people think of us too much more than what we think of ourselves. If white hollywood is that ignorant to think this is a betrayal of all black people that’s their ignorance of what they thought in the first place before the movie. What happend in Precious can go on in any race. There was a movie called Mommy Dearest that was out when I was younger. In this movie the mother who was white, and wealthy; abused her daughter terribly. I can’t recall white people making a big deal saying this movie betrayed white people in a bad light. I agree we need to see blacks playing in more positive roles. We also shouldn’t take a movie personally if a black person is playing the part and we don’t relate. The bottom line we think white people are going to think ALL black people are like the movie Precious…….who cares!! The movie was touching,emotional, and I cried throughout the movie. Key word it was a movie. We gotta stop carrying the burden of a individual; as a reflection of the whole race.

where was these discussions when Micheal Vick was getting lynch by white america every where that man went he was being heckled and belittle of some dogs while america at the same time allowed ufc fighting to become a regular program on daily television.Where men are visciously pounded blow after blow.Micheal Vick and my cousin for trhe atlanta falcons micheal jenkins were becoming a force and they just destroyed a naturel greatness.And who says a dog or a animal loves whites just ask the whale.

This movie was made by a BLACK ANGLO-SAXON, BLACK the new WHITE.

the movie sucked

The entire concept of a “stereotype” is in and of itself…stupid and ridiculous. We are all human beings…if you raise your kid to be a killer for example…no matter what skin color that kid is the outcome will be the same. I feel like we go around these circles in these debates instead of making sense out of it. “Stereotypes” make no sense…

To hell with all this “it don’t matter what color you is” or “we’re all human beings” bulls**t.
Or how about “white filmmakers make films just like ‘Precious’ all the time and white moviegoers never complain like we do.”
For starters, we don’t have the luxury to act like white people–in case you haven’t forgotten that this is still AmeriKKKa.

We are the most demonized, degraded, marginalized and castigated race on the planet–always have been and will likely always be.
And film is one of the greatest representations of our historical exploitation here in the U.S.

The point is that we don’t need to praise “Precious” by any means.
Over the past forty years we’ve either produced/directed or had a hand in a slew of quality films starring Black people–some nominated for an Oscar, many not. And just about all of them–”Sounder,” “Claudine,” “The Color Purple,” “Do the Right Thing” and on and on run circles around “Precious.”

But now the Academy is open to accepting the worst of our work. Four years ago, Terrence Howard nearly won a Best Actor oscar for his portrayal of a BDP (Broke Down Pimp)and Three 6 Mafia did for “It’s Hard out Here for a Pimp.” That should’ve signaled to us that Hollywood is only interested in honoring the worst of ourselves.

All of the Black actresses who had turned in fabulous performances yet never won, less alone being nominated– from Cicely Tyson, Diana Sands, Diana Ross to Angela Bassett. Yet Halle Berry wins in one of the less memorable roles by an actress of any race–ever, tells you again that Hollywood has its agenda when it comes to us. But what’s ours?

As far as Lee Daniels goes, it’s to make us look as greasy and animalistic as possible. This flaming homosexual has no conscience on how he’s partaking in the further assassination of the Black image in Hollywood and truthfully, he doesn’t give a damn.

What our agenda should be as moviegoers and television viewers is to only support those films and artists who support us; those who aren’t in the business of explotiting us for golden statues and profit.
It may be difficult for most of you to make this sacrifice but it’s one of the only ways we’ll ever be able to send a clear message to Hollywood and its negro minions that we don’t want any more smut like “Precious,” “Belly 2,”Doing Hard Time,” “Lockdown,” “Paper Soldiers,” “State Property” or any of that other straight to DVD trash that BET loves to air ad infinitum.

Kemite4life…it doesn’t mean you make sense…

Yes we have racial problems in our country….no one’s denying that. Yes we have stereotypes in our country…no one’s denying that either…the point made was does the concept of a stereotype make sense? Well…does it??

Why should I…because I was born black…be told that I’m expected to be or not be something because I’m black?? Why should a Mexican…because that person’s born mexican..be held to what people perceive to be all things Mexican??

The point made was…anyone that buys into “stereotypes” is stupid…because there’s no reason why a person’s skin color should cause you to generalize an entire group of people. So stereotypes in and of itself doesn’t make sense…and if a non-black person sees Precious and generalizes black people…it says more about them than blacks, the same way It’d say a lot about me if I watched a movie about Asians and generalized them. So in a sense it’s the person buying into the stereotype that’s the problem…not the stereotype itself..a concept which doesn’t make sense anyway

And yes..we are all human beings. So let me ask you a question…if I’m sitting next to a white, asian, mexican, and Indian person…and we’re all eating fried chicken and water melon…and I get made fun of for eating fried chicken and water melon just because I happen to be black. Does that make sense??? Should I say “hey..I’m not gonna eat fried chicken and watermelon” because of the concept of a “stereotype”?? Or should I not care that someone would be stupid enough to see my skin color 1st in the first place??

Couch and Antonio, great job.

There were so many great points made on both sides. Antonio’s perspective on influencing the viewers ideas about black mothers left me reeling. Couch made an excellent point on Hollywood rejecting quality artists rooted in the black renaissance but then banked on rap artists who degraded black women as muthafukinwhoes/b***hes…lots of room for an image upgrade in the Black Arts. Question is, how do we create blockbusters that project black culture on the positive and still pull in the same cash and awards?

Once again they have pulled the wool over your eyes with more white propaganda

I will additionally give a roster of topics that ZeroNews should want 2 sponsor Debate on;
1 Obama and his Agenda thus far
2 Your Human Rights
3 Articles of Association vs Constitution
4 Single Family Homes the how and why this trend plaques Blacks more than any
5 Welfare and the Woman’s role into Ushering the State as the Father of her child tie that in with the SS# & Birth Cert.
6 What are DERIVATIVES and how has this weakened this Nation
7 Pres. Obama’s Cabinet’s background and their disasterous past
8 Concealed Weapons Rights
9 The History of Poe-Lice Brutality
10 Charging the Chicago Police Department with Fred Hampton’s Murder
11 The Genocidal Agenda against the BPP, MLK, Malcolm X and others
12 The Black role players inside the COINTELPRO (Al Sharpton and others)
13 Curriculum within Public Schools and why young black men choose 2 chance they future on the streets rather than School or Church
14 The Black Household the destruction and the refurbishing of it
15 The Media and the Longevity of Biased subliminal rhetoric
16 The New Racism color-blind Racism and the Future of Whiteness in America
17 The Falsehood of Politrickal Parties and the deceitful tactics
18 Why Afrakans around the Globe are the lower caste
19 The Suicidal phenomenom of Federal Reserve Notes & the “get rich or die trying” agenda that blares within the Black Psyche and trumps Morality

I have a plethera of others
so ZeroNews shut that bullshlt down and BOAST an article of DEBATE of one of my examples

lets give it up to the Zionist Israelites controlled hollywood i.e. people like Obama’s grandfather, for marketing, promoting and awarding such movie. well. I am waiting for the remake of the Birth of a Nation with a Zionist twist. Holla at your boy when ya’ll do it.

Also, this debate is a waste of time just like any ZeroNews articles.I am tired of all this wannabe pro-Afrakan Amerikkkan extremists, white loving negros, fake revolutionary, and Obamamites, since every single one of ya’ll are spitting out nothing but intellectual masterbations. When ya’ll fake azzes are willing to do real ishhhhhhhh for our people let me know because all ya’ll talk aint ishhhh. Lets be real you scared to stand up against the system, if you cant stand up and be father to your kids what makes you think you can be a revolutionary? if you cant take any accountability and have standards as black queens suppose to have you dont have it in you to be a true revolutionary. so keep hiding behind your keyboards, and insult others because thats the only ting your good at.

God/Ptah/Ra’s Son

What’s good my brutha Mr_nanas

Perionne27:

You don’t get it and I don’t have an exorbitant amount of time to help you overstand. You’re obviously stuck in a negro mindset and I can’t help you overstand in quick time.
However, let me tell you that I’m not one of those negores who sits around worrying what white people thinks of us.
I could give a damn.
There are stereotypes for every racial/ethnic group in America, however, again, none are as damning and detrimental as those used against us. These stereotypes if you will have been used like weapons against us for hundreds of years now.
And dumbass, I know we’re all human beings but what f**king good is saying this now unless we’re on this planet with other beings, i.e. aliens?
Also I’ll never hide eating a watermelon–it’s a nutritious and life-affirming food.

jazzpast:

Certainly you’re not referring to me because I’m a doer–not someone hiding behind a screen name who yaps his jaws for a living. I’m new to this board and like you, I see a bunch of fatmouthin’ and waxing poetic on a bunch of bulls**t here.
I’m NOT one of those who’s afraid to call out this beast. so again, target your aim elsewhere.
I came on here to bring some perspective that’s obviously missing with the large presence of negro voices here.
And FYI, WTF do you mean by “pro-Afrakan[sic] Amerikkkan extremists”? So again if you got beef with something I said then say so.

the movies is ok but the academy only wants to see black people in a bad light for their entertainment, that’s the reason they only nominate the black movies that are demeaning to us. Look at the white movies that win they are all uplifting and feel good movies that have all white cast and are nice with people who are put in a positive light which is just the opposite of our movies, black people need to create their movie awards and stop trying to get approval from the (masa)lmfao 4real, the hell with these crackers we don’t need them we have all the talent in the world and it needs to be represented in the right way.

I thought the debate was boring so I didn’t watch all of it.At the end of the day i still live because what happens to others aint happen to me.See the thing is black women don’t like to see their faults so if this movie was about a black man then it’ll be ok.This stuff happen but since black women are perfect an nothing is wrong you can see why it gets criticize.On the other side lets look at black mothers today an tell me they aint no good its a lot who live in government subsidize housing as a single parent?Im not scared to face reality I love it.

Definition of ‘Stereotyped Behavior’
Relatively invariant mode of behavior elicited or determined by a particular situation; may be verbal, postural, or expressive.

..if this film wasn’t stereotyped behavior.. you need to question your understanding of what stereotyped behavior is..

If I can recalled in the film… all the light skinned african americans actor-actress here lean in shape..educated.. speaking in terms to “Precious” about what to eat and what not to eat.. when PIG’S body parts was the main menu in “Precious’ house ordered by her mother”.. where you have a obese black female teenager with two children as result of incest and rape.. and HIV positive..and uneducated..

I expect MORE POSITIVE films from our african american directors/producers.. and if we say its inherently ok to constantly make films about increst, rape, criminality as african american people? The industry of black film makers is in the toilet..and no I don’t care what white people or any other race thinks of such films like “precious”.. however, I do expect from those who LOOK like US.. who are lead to represent US on film as african american people 2010..to step it up on actually researching our HISTORY and find stories of which we have no knowledge of and represent/educate.. instead of repeating the SAME OLD STORIES ..just re-packaged..

I have elected to not spend my money any further on such films as “PRECIOUS”..boys in the hood..BOOTY CALL..etc., all re-packaged time and time again.. if you wnat these type of films diminshed..do the same don’t SPEND your money sends the message..

I understand what Spike Lee is saying some what..I’ve don’t like the character- Ma-dear-a. I think she is a insult and stereotyped to senior african american females.. funny yes..repetitive of course. purpose-none..don’t get me wrong I like SOME of Tyler Perry’s films ..just not ALL of his films.

@kemite

It has nothing to do with you my brutha if the shoe doesnt fit you already know that. Your name says it and from what I read from your comments.youre not one that I am calling out. I dont have any personal beef with anyone thats true, and will die for the betterment of the masses. However, if you and I have some similar thoughts. All this talking that everybody is doing with their morality and intellectual prowess doesnt get us any where but stuck on the same position that we are in. The only difference is now we can get stuck in style with luxury things i.e. mercedez, lexus, bmw, gucci, jordans, etc.

And when I say, African- Amerikkkaan is a term created in the the late 70′s-80′s by none other than the MASTER BOULE himself, JESSE JACKSON. A term that was taken by the government so easily because of its political clout.Yet, in reality, it made us disconnected to other black folks that has roots somewhere else.It resulted in a non-harmonize relationship with the rest of he black folks who are not rooted in this land. DOnt blame me for believeing in unity and a strong front for black people everywhere.

Lmao @ me not getting it even though I made valid points @ Kemite

Like I said yes stereotypes do exist, and they’re strong against blacks. No one’s denying that. No one’s also denying that they’re other relatively strong stereotypes against other races no??

The main point I made was that the concept of a stereotype isn’t valid…and we shouldn’t cave into it. As far as I’m concerned…when it comes to stereotypes it says more about the person believing in the “stereotype” than the stereotype itself. So for example, being a black man, should I never raise my voice and get angry for fear of being called an Angry black man because of the stereotype?? Or should I continue to live like any other normal human being?

Whenever I hear someone push a stereotype…I ask that person what is it that makes you think someone’s skin color is a sign of how they act, eat,their beliefs, etc. etc. ?? Is there scientific evidence to back up your generalization? And if not…then what’s the point of the stereotype? Once we continue to put things in that context..stereotypes will begin to make less and less sense.

That was the point…Whenever I hear blacks say “Omg this will make blacks look bad”…I can’t help but think why not question the ignorance of the concept of a “stereotype” instead. Education/Logic is the strongest weapon against ignorance

Jazzpast…it always amazes me that people who don’t take the extreme stance you may take is a “white loving negro”(as if there’s something wrong with loving all people), “Obamamite”(lol, and afraid to “stand up against the system” when they may indeed have a different perspective. There are probably valid arguments that would counter yours…I’m sure if they were screaming “Amerikkkans” you’d take their side though

Perionne

Why do I have to love people that dont love me or my people genuinely?

Why would I continue to do the same BS that didnt get us no where but some crumbs?

Why should I feel free and at peace when the causes of our people to be where they at are not tackled and remedied by real solutions and not some patch it with tokens to make it like we are doing something for them?

Screaming Amerikkkans? thats the best you got? you can have you opinion, you can scream whatever you want and I will respect that. However, I will not take anything you say personally because my mission is not for personal gain but for my people. Therefore, if you think loving your people, respecting your ancestors and wanting true equality is extreme then be it. At least, Ill die knowing I did my best to leave this earth better than I came in.Ill leave the intellectual masturbation to you and your cohorts because that really elevates our people in many facets and levels.

jazzpast:

I stand corrected. Thank you for clarifying.
And it’s good to know I have an ally here on this board. We need to stand united in shutting down the pandemic of negroism here on this board and elsewhere.

Perionne27:

I agree with you that We shouldn’t concern ourselves with what We perceive white people think of US. Because trust that if i become frustrated in a social setting–esp around whites, i’m not going to hold back because I fear being perceived as an “Angry Black Man.”
But that’s besides the point.
As far as Blacks saying, “Omg this will make blacks look bad”–WTF?
I don’t know of any conscientious or even halfway knowledgeable Black person in Amerikkka who’d use the very white slang/acronym “OMG.”
I don’t know how old you are. I take it you’re 25 or under because that’s the generation who seems to prefer this nonsensical term.

i think the movie was trash and set us back. i heard so many people in the hood talkin yeah that a good movie, then i see and im like what the f**k What was the point. now award for that but s**t but MALCOLM X won NOTHING U SEE WAS THEY AGENDA IS

jazz thats real talk and to many of poor and rich blacks disrespect the ancestord

[...] Everyone seems to have a visceral reaction to the film and the African American images it portrays. NewsOne.com hosted an online debate between NYU film professor Sheril D. Antonio and social critic Stanley Crouch. Even former First [...]

movie sucks!! bore NEXT! shouldnt win anything the girl, but a trip to jenny craig!!

I am very upset at the the african american on here saying Precious was a sterotypical movie. I feel african americans don’t want to talk about some deep dark secrets that are in the african american community. I feel that we can;t do anything without our own people criticizing us. Why are we debating the issue in the movie as sterotypical. we should be wondering or thinking about to to stop and issue like abuse in the community. The movie Precious is a book calll Pusha nd if more of us would would reqd we would get a better apprication for the movie. Some of us don;’t nothing better to say what we should be saying is that we are tired of see movies where white folks try to save black children like in THe Blind side. I think if afriacan americans were to listen to the blog we would have a movie like Procious. we all know why Malcolm X diddn’t win it was about Islam not just Islam the Naiton of Islam and america is not ready for that. Movies like Precious should make us think about how some of our people livea and how do we help them. Abusing is all around us everyday and some of us don’t say anythiing about it. why should it take a movie like Precious to get us taking about abuse. I lthink we are afraid to find out that a lot of people are being abouseed.

i feel that the movie was too much and then they didnt even show who it was based upon like it was so much going on and i think the only reason it got nominated so many times is white people but into that stuff and thruthfully i didnt recomend anyone to go see it its just sad from begging to end and i dont see the hope or anything in the movie i look at monique different now and i just didnt like it

MOVIE SUCKED ANYWAY…ONLY MONIQUES PART WAS GOOD

I would love to see a movie about Assata Shakur or Queen Nzingha ??

how bout a movie about Hannibal Barca, Taharka/Taharqa or Marcus Garvey ??

are should we be content with the same old, sports,drugs,coon’n and bafoon’n, I cant find a good man, men wearing dresses, etc etc…. ???

Honor the ancestors, or walk the plank… :)

Precious was a wonderful movie on so many levels… I never ever ever saw the critism for movies like Juice or boyz in the Hood that portrayed African Americans in the most negative light there is!! This movie hits every nationality and abuse like that happens in all households, the camera just happened to be put into the hands of a brilliant African American man who casted the perfect people for this movie. I think the haters that are against this movie are the Mary Jones of our society and you are hiding your sickness by putting a great piece of artwork down! How dare you say that this type of abuse is not reflective through the eyes of black people. The only thing that sets people back are ignorant people that cant understand a story so true to life and which transcend race and from looking at the comments that includes alot of ignorant people that are on this site! Get over it and stop hating on a movie that was a true inspiration for abuse victims.

This movie was absolutely horrible…If anyone should have won and oscar it should have been tyler perry. I am so tired of the stereotypical roles…the dirty cop turned drug dealer, the crack addict, the w***e, the slave, the slave being beaten or raped or both, the child being raped and beaten or both. It was almost comical when monique got up there and said ‘it’s not about politics’….that b.s was nothing but politics…the ignorant welfare recipient abusing and letting her child be abused only to have the white woman come and save the day! Please!!!! We as a race have moved past that…Tyler Perry shows both sides of the spectrum..yeah there’s the stereotypical roles then there are the professionals…the doctor, lawyer, engineer, politician(other than obama), the professor…THERE REALLY ARE AFRICAN AMERICAN MEN THAT ARE PROFESSIONALS OUT HERE…I don’t look at oprah in the same light either….i just don’t get her at all anymore…every movie she has financed or done it’s either about the abused slave, lesbian scenes, women and children being beaten or raped or both….with a horrible depiction of the black man…now they are starting in on the black woman with this horror of a film…i mean what is her problem? THERE ARE GOOD HARD WORKING AND PROFESSIONAL AFRICAN-AMERICAN MEN THAT ARE GOOD HUSBANDS AND FATHERS!

Precious was nonsense. Miracle at St. Anna was better than Precious. Spike Lee has done better films than lee “f****t” daniels

@Gail_Brooks you say this is not our story as a black people, but tell me why do we always have to tell this tragic story, let some other race tell the story. We got enough stereotypes to debunk, now there is an added one, I’m just tired of it, I am sorry for anyone to have to go through that but a movie ain’t gonna change it go to therapy. I had a personal experience with molestation know how I handled it I told. My mother’s boyfriend asked me to sit on his lap while she was gone and when I refused he tried to pull me on his lap I broke free ran to my grandma’s house and she came back with a pistol and ordered him out of the house, then waited for my mother to return and got in her ass for leaving a man in the house as she did errands. It’s called tell some damn body.

@Changeitupmo, after my own heart. I read Mr. Crouch on the regular, just to examine his critique of many issues. I find that he is a reasonable observer, and sometimes see way ahead of ‘ordinary’ individuals. The thing about knowledge is, the more the merrier. Everyone has touched, or been touched by this (many other movies which depict the ex slave of America in a most docile, ignorant, and violent light)highly exagerrated type casting of a single un educated mother living in anytown USA. Regardless of the so called color barrier, which paint a different picture for an Anglo – Saxony type “precious”, this girl didn’t have a chance in the world. The last time I was that bewildered by a film was after “Beloved”. “Dude” A great movie would be set in the so called time of the biblical ‘Exodus’, but will epoch the ‘Upper Volta’ or Southern part of the Sudan ‘land of the Gods’, yep. It will highlight the paradise world of the Nubians along the Blue and White Nile/s. It will chronicle 5000 years since the Black Hebrews left Egypt to those ‘Hyksos’ invaders. Like the young one said, ‘Denzel’ got nominated after playing a crooked cop, but almost got no responce for his portrayal of ‘Malcolm X’. May the god of our ancestors forgive us our trespasses.

People really need to stop associating a story that could be about any family, race, or culture and making it out to be a “racist” or stereotypical situation. Some have missed the beauty of the story in itself too busy being close-minded. Truth be told..the moral of the story is that regardless if it was an all African-American cast this could be anyone suffering the emotional, physical, and mentally devastating experience Precious endured. Stop making everything about “white” or “black” all the time. If we continue to allow ourselves to be put into a “box” racism will always be a thorn in our side. Take notice with the ending of the movie…Precious wanted to prosper despite the odds against her…she didn’t give up! All in all, you didn’t get that job or house, further your education, or having prosperity you are seeking because of you…not because somebody was holding you back. We all have the opportunity to rise above it…the only thing is stopping you is you!

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