LOL OOOKAY BUT I DON’T GET WHERE YOU’RE GETTING THE WHOLE “GEEZER” THING FROM

this column is stupid b/c the writer is all over the place…”that infuriating voice altering device, first brought to the surface by Peter Frampton, which makes everybody sound like Roger Troutman on crack”…ok, so if jay-z is trying to end something so “infuriating”, why would he be “old” to get rid of it? is the writer saying that he’s old & grumpy, as well?

whoz da old man, kanye west? cuz aint nuttin wrong wit jigga. kanye iz a fag an i been waitin fo jay ta diss him fo years since he decided ta start tryin ta rap. but it aint rappin when ya sound like a retarded robot who cant sing fo shyit. she-pain iz past due ta get dissed fo dis garbage.

This writer needs to understand what Jay is really getting at…Jay is not against AutoTune specifically, he is against every damn artist using it now..Roger Troutman made some classics with it, but can you imagine if Rick James, Barry White, Prince, etc. all used it?…it would have become annoying…same thing here, all these hip hop artists using it in reality is just biting dudes style..you can call me a grumpy old man too, but when I was coming up, that was called biting, and biting was forbidden, in fact, a biting MC label would get you ostracized and would end your career!!!

Roger Troutman NEVER used no Autotune. That’s why they said “Roger Troutman on crack.”

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“… Rakim and KRS-One, with Big Daddy Kane, Slick Rick and LL Cool J all staking legitimate claims.”

No mention of Chuck D from Public Enemy? I stopped reading right there. No one, aside from KRS 1 has had the lyrical content or delivery that can rival Chuck D.

It really seems like some of you commentators have missed his point:

1) “Geezer” defines the ages of the three quys in the picture because they are all at or approaching 40; maybe not too old for this world, but they are closer to being 50 than they are to being 25…

2) Autotune is definitely overused at this point. The distortion was cool when it was revamped by T-Pain (and “she-pain?” Where did you get that? You seem angry man)

It’s always taken me a while to like Jay’s lyrics. He seemed like NYC hype to me. Propaganda in a sense…no offense to the fans, because I am one too (now); just not the overzealous fan. That list of “best MC’s seemed legitimate enough, but I appreciate the poster who called out my man 3000. But isn’t “the best MC” usually the one who verbalizes what the people feel? Or the one who can offer an original perspective to a situation? How do you know who is “best?”

But playing Devil’s advocate; Jay got beef with those who have popularized voice distortion- maybe he should just take his back seat until the game calls him to drive again

Well aside from this artical (due to its lack of a main topic)…one of my main concerns is that we are so focused on age when in fact I’m sure everyone wants to continue to grow.

There was a time when as long as you put out quality music, age did not matter; Today’s world now says that once you hit a certain age, you should stop making music. As usual…it seems quality has taken a back seat to variables that really don’t even matter (appearance, age, status etc..)

Wow!!

IT IS GETTING OUT OF HAND…BUT AT THE SAME TIME….TALKIN ABOUT IT AINT GONNA CHANGE S**T…JUST MAKE YO HIT MUSIC…TO OVER RIDE OTHER MC’S THAT USE AUTO TUNE

As most people know that Autotune and vocoder/talk box are two different things. Peter Frampton, Eagles, Roger Troutman, and Stevie Wonder uses a vocoder or talk box that is attached to their equipments whether it be a guitar or keyboard. Autotune is a processor that is added to the voice either after recording or doing live performances. A lot of singers use autotune to correct pitch and tone. T-Pain, Kanye and lil Wayne chooses a different setting to get that mechnical sound to help them sound like they have the correct pitch and tone. Is it being overused? Hell yeah. Im tired of it frankly

When u watch a karate flick, who’s the master? The one with the long gray beard! So thats what Jay is. The geezer wit the the gray beard will tap that ass!

News One once again starting s**t , if somebody made a song called “DIRTY HOES” News One will take that and say some artist put out a statement against “DIRTY HOES”.New One is the same type of media that stirred up the East Coast West Coast Beef stirring up stuff that didnt really mean nothin JayZ made a song about something he doesn’t like….. his right….his buisness

Nine words…

The guy that wrote this article is an idiot…

every body get a damn life… WORLD HUNGER…argue bout that instead…

wow…Jay is a great MC, without question…but stop with the “trend- setter” mess…im from the FLA, and uhhh I dont see the influence of dog down where Im from…Im sure my east coast folk feel differently though

wtf who thinks some bama named fn weezy is the best anything?

The author is an idiot made clear by the suggestion that sh!t stain is now the best MC on the mic. I question that Jay-Z holds that title, but it’s unquestionable that some fool with no lyrics does not.

Jays a legend Im from Fla and I guess most people so young to this game they dont really know Jay has birth’d at least 3 generation of mc’s.If you list everything he started youd be surprised.He was even the first on video with the fitted c**ked to the back and I see cats all day in fla like that

Why wasnt Tupac mentioned as a great if not the greatest MC?

“seems to be that while those other culture-altering phenomenon were organic, never before has Hov attempted something so clearly contrived.”

That’s a huge fail, as songs like brush your shoulders off proved. Jay has been largely contrived since vol. 2.

LADIES, GENTLEMEN — CALM DOWN!

Yes, Wayne sucks… but what the author here is trying to say, is that there’s nobody around with Wayne’s popularity – that’s all.

Check it: Before Wayne, which MC was in EVERY SONG AND REMIX??? Yup, Jay-Z! Of course, Jay was actually good… but you’re missing the point he’s trying to make!

–>He’s saying that Jay’s age is showing through on this D.o.A track. For example:

Whereas people once thought of Jay as the “cool kid in class” and tried to copy him, now he comes off like our middle-aged fathers trying too hard to be his former “hip” self. Or that lame kid in class who gets everybody on HIS side by saying whoever isn’t, is gay.

—-MY OPINION—-

I agree… Jay is trying a little too hard, but what can you do about it? The younger generation he’s departed from is a collective dumbass. We say we hate autotune, yet “Blame It” topped the charts for 20+ weeks. So of course Jay’s voice of reason is going to sound foreign to us.

The problem is we associate “cool” too closely to age. When Jay hit 30, cats started claiming he fell off… that’s not what happened. KANYE HAPPENED – the class-clown dropout in his 20s that entertained everybody with his individuality.

Now look where he is: autotuning with a frullet; and we still think he’s cool, when the fact is, if it weren’t for the cash we wouldn’t wanna be him, lol – and quite frankly, I think he’s gotten this way in search of our approval, but I digress. Face it, he fooled us. This opened the door for T-Pain, leading to a series of declining standards in music, Wayne, Gucci, etc.

So essentially, what we have is two snakes consuming each other. Each side continues to think its getting what it wants, until there’s nothing left. It’s up to every to help break the cycle.

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Wayne….sucks! Kanye….is overrated! And Jay-Z, has been played out. Like B.I.G., and Snoop, and others his materials is either about making illegitimate money (which I doubt that he does now), spending it to purchase a “Beyonce”, or how great he is (and I know waaaaaay nicer). The thing is that some of you are so conned into the idea that repetition will make you miss something and therefore give it a second chance that most of you just echo the sentiments of the loudmouth deejays that won’t shut the hell up and get the genitalia outta their mouth! Hip hop had substance, but mainstream America has figured out a way to create a watered down image that out of it that people associate with this “artform”. When you listen to the subject matter of about 85% of the songs, their about self overappreciation or some form of excess. No, I’m not saying that it has to be negative, but come on! There is no realism or truth in the art anymore! And people wonder why it (Hip hop) had a hard time being recognized as a musical genre……..

Here’s the problem. Jay still has flows so the writer of this article needs to stop the press on Jay. And the beginning of the article is highly inaccurate. B.I.G. and Snoop weren’t even competing so how can the writer make that claim when Snoop has been king on the westcoast since ’96? B.I.G. wasn’t the only notable MC on his coast doing anything.

Back to Jay…all these MCs talking about their swagga’ need to be thanking Jay and even Diddy. They are the kings of swagga’. They are the ones who came out and were the flashiest, the classiest in hip-hop.

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um..yeah who cares about who sucks…i just think the title is funny as f**k!! ‘old geezer’..thats funny

YES…YES.. EVERYONE GET A GRIP! ITS JUST MUSIC.. BULLS**T MUSIC ON TOP OF THAT… WHAT HAPPEN TO BACK IN THA DAYZ WHEN ARTISTS HAD TO COME OUT WITH HIT ALBUMS AFTER ALBUMS. NOW A NIGGA CAN COME OUT WITH ONE HIT OR A ALBUM AND THEY ARE THE GREATEST HIP HOP ARTIST EVER? THAT S**T BEEN HASNT MADE ANY SINCE AT ALL. BESIDES YES… I FEEL THAT JAY IS OVERATED. I THINK THAT HE IS ACTUALLY PRETTY DAMN AVERAGE. BUT.. I THINK HE HAS GOOD BUSINESS ETHICS. HE HOOKS UP WITH PEOPLE AROUND HIM THAT MAKE HIS STATUS BETTER THEREFORE MAKING HIM OUT TO LOOK LIKE HE IS ON POINT WITH HIS SWAGGER. HOWEVER, HIP HOP IS TOTALLY DEAD AND HAS BEEN DEAD… ANYTIME A BUCH OF GOLD TOOTH NIGGAS CAN GET ON 106 PARK AND BE ON THE COUNT DOWN WITH SOME BULLS**T ASS RYMES ABOUT A GOOFY ASS DANCE THEN THERE YOU GO… ITS BEEN DEAD SINCE 2002

Real talk about that swagg s**t niggaz was not using that word until jigga said something

If jay was the best mc in the game for 11 years how did ether take him apart so easily? Hiphop has been dead ever since big and pac died so who cares about these pop artist thats out now

the issue is the fact that people in Hip Hop stopped trying be the next hot thing… now a dayz they just want to copy whats hot.. Puff gets praise for having an ear for whats hot, Quincy Jones was praised for having an ear for the next hot thing, sing the difference

I’ll be glad when we’re out of the woods with this auto-tunes mess. Damn it, T-Pain.

I’m Old Skool. I like the pure voice of Hip Hop Artists, and I like a little Auto-tune every once and awhile. Damn! it’s being overused these days. But the kids love it, so be it.

Do you mean Kanye can sing w/o the Autotune? Are you sure? Did you see his SNL performane? He sings but he’s not really a singer. Jay Z’s wife makes good money singing but I had my remote on speed mute during all the films she sang in. Sounds like she should be out in the pasture calling in farm animals or something from the cloning lab.

DID I JUST REALLY HEAR THAT LIL WAYNE IS THE NUMBER 1 ARTIST IN THE GAME SURPASSING JAY Z!!!!!!!!!!
I DUNNO WHERE U PEOPLE GET UR INFO FROM BUT HAVING HOT BEATS DOES NOT MAKE U AN ILL RAPPER NUM 1. 2 WHEN WEEZY CAN DISPLAY THE LYRICAL SKILL THAT HOV CAN WHILE BEING RELEVANT AND SERIOUS EVERY1 NEEDS 2 STOP SAYING THAT. I KNOW U ALL LOVE THE SOUTH BUT LETS FACE IT……….THEY STLE AN EAST COAST FLOW AND PUT IT 2 THIER OWN BEATS FUSED WITH EAST COAST BEATS THEY STOLE THE SWAG AND RAN WITH IT. tHEY WASNT FLY IN THE SOUTH THEY WERE WEARING WHATEVA NOW THEY STYLE……….AND GOT SWAG……………PLEASE MY G HE WAS HOT WHEN HE WAS A HOTBOY REAL LOUISIANA MUSIC

i have a comment,about jay-z being to old to be a rapper.im so sick of people putting a age liment on hip hop.they dont put age liment on rock n roll most of them rock n n****r r in there 60′s.thats a job

i would love to have,krs one,jigga,and rakim call out the rap game with a track called,TEACHERS…it should be a long track so they can all showcase there skills. it should be sorta of a battle track letting everyone know there just waiting to take over tha game at there own pace and that the’ve still got them flows 4 that azz..

Jay just saying that autone is being overused , cats a re not trying to be creative or original. I believe that’s why he had t-pain on stage with him at summer jam when he perfomred it, to show he dont hate it he just hates they way its being oversaturated

Why are we having this debate? Why is it that yall act like Jay-Z is the king of rap. Maybe you all forgot he is only placed in that position by default. After 2Pace and Biggie then you people appointed him the king. F**k Jay-Z like I always said when 2pac and the outlaws was callin his ass Gay-Z he wouldn’t say s**t,the dude was talking about retirement after his first record. Then Pac and Big get killed,then all of a sudden he resurfaces as the king of New York. No potna you are not the king of rap and if it wasn’t for Pac and Big’s death he probley wouldn’t even be making records. Also I have a problem with the fact Jigga was so quick to come at Nas when they had the lil beef going on, but 2pac called him everything in the book but a child of GOD and his soft ass was quiet as kept. what a damn joke. As for the autotune thing it’s not even one in the same autotune is a plug in for audio recording software it doesn’t even have the full range of use as a talkbox,or vecoder which is used to help people talk that otherwise couldn’t due to problems with their throat i.e. (cancer). Peter Framton is the man but why would you compare him to Roger Troutman? For one thing you can’t because they use two totally different instruments so they will never sound anywhere close to the same because of the difference in harmonics of the instrument. I want you cats to do your homework before you put stuff otu there and look dumb as hell doing so to those who really have knowledge of this type of stuff. Bottom line the industry is filled with followers and to be real the main man talking trash bit his whole style from Biggie and 2pac. He’s one to talk.

WTF does C8nucmenow talking aobut? The south had no style,the south stole swag? Get the hell outta here,please get it right because for years south rappers couldn’t even get their s**t played on the radio because of the bias industry,what did the north get a paten on style that I was unaware of? Please get it right the south didn’t steal s**t from up east coast what about how Jim Jones running round talkin bout BALLIN. Where do you think that terminology came from huh? It surely wasn’t New York, as a matter of fact I think that is what you guys called CLOCKERS back then. Yeah really original stuff comming from the originators. As for stealing east coast beats and putting a twist on it,you might wanna go back through history and know that most of the beat structure now is based upon the 120 plus beats per minute format that originated down the bottom MIA,what some of you call booty music.

WOW. SELDOMSEEN176 NAILED IT. DAMN.

JAY Z, THE ISLEY BROTHERS, THE GAP BAND, CONFUNCTION, FRANKIE BEVERLY AND MAZE, JILL SCOTT, ERYKA BADU, MUSIQ SOULCHILD, MARY J. BLIGE, TEENA MARIE ANGELA WINBUSH, ANGELA BOFILL PATTIE LABELLE, QUINCY JONES, BONEY JAMES, HOWARD HEWITT, EL DEBARGE, SWITCH, THE JACKSONS, STACY LATTISAW, JOHNNY GILL, KEITH SWEAT….WHAT THE HELL? WHERE’S THE MUSIC I WANT TO BUY? (PHYLLIS HYMAN, LUTHER VANDROSS, MARVIN GAYE, GERLD LEVERT, ISSAC HAYES BARRY WHITE…..ALL OF THE GREATEST KEEP DISAPPEARING OUT OF OUR MUSIC LIFE. THE LIFE WHEN I USED TO BUY ALBUMS AND LISTEN TO EVERY SONG, SOMETIMES OVER AND OVER. YOU LEGENDS ARE LETTING ME DOWN. YOUR MUSIC COULD ALWAYS BE SOLD IN A WAL-MART. MY MOMMA LIKED YOUR MUSIC, HER MAMMA LIKE YOUR MUSIC. YOU DID SELL SOME ALBUMS DIDN’T YOU? WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED? DID YOU JUST GIVE UP ON US? WE DO HAVE JOBS TOO YOU KNOW. WE CAN AFFORD TO PAY FOR AN ALBUM OF YOUR CALIBER. I DIDN’T STOP BUYING ALBUMS BECAUSE I DIDN’T HAVE MONEY, I STOPPED BUYING BECAUSE MY FAVORITE ARTISTS STARTING GIVING UP ON THEIR FAN BASE AND SAT BACK AND LET THIS BULLCRAP HIT THE MARKET. THAT BULLCRAP ACTUALLY HAS A MARKET FOR THE YOUNG, BUT WHAT ABOUT THE OLDER PEOPLE WHO STILL JUST WANT TO WOO THEIR WIVES AND GIRLFRIENDS, STILL JUST WANT TO START A REVOLUTION, STILL JUST WANT TO BE TAKEN AWAY IN YOUR MEANINGFUL LYRICS? WHO THE HELL WILL I GET LOST IN NOW? GERALD LEVERT’S ALBUM WAS THE LAST I BOUGHT AND I’M LOOKING FOR TEENA’S NOW…..ONLINE….STOP LETTING YOUR PEOPLE DOWN.

someone sounds pretty mad…lol.it kills me how people actually act like they personally know pac, big nas and hov…lol.no one knows what was going on behind the scenes.they are all great artists but dam…get pacs balls out yo mouth…lol.give props where props are due…jay z did like no other did it.maybe if they were alive he might not be where he is at now but they are dead and there are alot of other rappers with skills that were better then jigga but they didnt do it…jigga did.DONT BE ANGRY CAUSE MILLIONS OF PEOPLE BOUGHT JIGGA S**T.he nice..so was pac, big, nas…all of them.stop hatin…what u mad for son…what, you must be the mad blogger…lol

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Just because you make that fast s**t(120bpm) don’t mean it’s nice!Ain’t that some s**t! You nothing ass motherf**kers slid in the door like thieves! South Rap motherf**ker please, Weezy? Soulja Boy? and some of thar other unbalanced ass “BULLS**T” you ignorant ass f**kers call yourself “SPITTIN” from down there is a MOCKERY! I don’t care what any of you say, the “REAL” south mc’s like SUPASTITION, THE JUSTUS LEAGUE
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