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From the Associated Press:

SEATTLE — The man suspected of gunning down four police officers in a suburban coffee shop was shot and killed by Seattle police early Tuesday, a sheriff’s spokesman said. Three other people were arrested for allegedly helping him elude authorities during a massive two-day manhunt.

Maurice Clemmons was shot to death in a working-class south Seattle neighborhood after police tracked him down using possible hiding spots supplied by Pierce County investigators, said Ed Troyer, a spokesman for the county sheriff. Troyer told Fox News a single officer found Clemmons and shot and killed him. A couple dozen police officers milled around at the scene where Clemmons was apparently shot, shaking hands and patting each other on the back.

Authorities say Clemmons, 37, singled out the Lakewood officers and spared employees and other customers at a coffee shop Sunday morning in Parkland, a Tacoma suburb about 35 miles south of Seattle. He then fled, but not before he was apparently shot in the torso by one of the dying officers.

On Monday, officers detained a sister of Clemmons who they think treated the suspect’s gunshot wound.

“We believe she drove him up to Seattle and bandaged him up,” Troyer said.

Troyer didn’t immediately give the names of the three people arrested on suspicion of rendering criminal assistance. Police said a network of friends and family gave Clemmons place to stay, medical aid, rides and money while he was on the run.

Police said they aren’t sure what prompted Clemmons to shoot the officers. Clemmons was described as increasingly erratic in the past few months and had been arrested earlier this year on charges that he punched a sheriff’s deputy in the face.

Troyer told the Tacoma News-Tribune that Clemmons indicated the night before the shooting “that he was going to shoot police and watch the news.”

Killed were Sgt. Mark Renninger, 39, and Officers Ronald Owens, 37, Tina Griswold, 40, and Greg Richards, 42.

Police surrounded a house in a Seattle neighborhood late Sunday following a tip Clemmons had been dropped off there. After an all-night siege, a SWAT team entered the home and found it empty. But police said Clemmons had been there.

Police frantically chased leads on Monday, searching multiple spots in the Seattle and Tacoma area and at one point cordoning off a park where people thought they saw Clemmons.

Authorities found a handgun carried by the killer, along with a pickup truck belonging to the suspect with blood stains inside. They posted a $125,000 reward for information leading to Clemmons’ arrest and alerted hospitals to be on the lookout for a man seeking treatment for gunshot wounds.

“We need to get him into custody and we need to end this,” Troyer said Monday night.

Authorities in two states were criticized amid revelations that Clemmons was allowed to walk the streets despite a teenage crime spree in Arkansas that landed him an 108-year prison sentence. He was released early after then-Gov. Mike Huckabee commuted his sentence.

Huckabee cited Clemmons’ youth in granting the request. But Clemmons quickly reverted to his criminal past, violated his parole and was returned to prison. He was released again in 2004.

“This guy should have never been on the street,” said Brian D. Wurts, president of the police union in Lakewood. “Our elected officials need to find out why these people are out.”

Huckabee said on Fox News Channel’s “The O’Reilly Factor” Monday night that Clemmons was allowed back on the street because prosecutors failed to file paperwork in time.

Pulaski County Prosecutor Larry Jegley, whose office opposed Clemmons’ parole in 2000 and 2004, said Huckabee’s comments were “red herrings.”

“My word to Mr. Huckabee is man up and own what you did,” Jegley said.

Clemmons was charged in Washington state earlier this year with assaulting a police officer and raping a child, and investigators in the sex case said he was motivated by visions that he was Jesus Christ and that the world was on the verge of the apocalypse.

But he was released from jail after posting bail with the assistance of Jail Sucks Bail Bonds.

Documents related to those charges indicate a volatile personality. In one instance, he is accused of gathering his wife and young relatives and forcing them to undress.

“The whole time Clemmons kept saying things like trust him, the world is going to end soon, and that he was Jesus,” a Pierce County sheriff’s report said.

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[3:05 p.m. - 11/30/2009] – Suspect In Wa. Police Killings Remains At Large In Seattle

From the Associated Press:

SEATTLE — A heavily armed SWAT team stormed a Seattle home Monday where they thought they had cornered the suspect in the slaying of four police officers at a coffee shop, only to find out that he was not in the house and still on the loose.

The discovery added new urgency to the manhunt for Maurice Clemmons as police canvassed the neighborhood with search dogs and hundreds of officers were deployed around Seattle for any sign of the suspect. Authorities put up a $125,000 reward for information leading to his arrest.

Police had been positioned overnight at a Seattle home where they thought Clemmons was holed up and spent hours trying to communicate with him, using loudspeakers, explosions and even a robot sent into the house. But when the SWAT team went inside, he was nowhere to be found.

Pierce County sheriff’s spokesman Ed Troyer said the location of Clemmons was not known, and it’s possible he still could be in the neighborhood. Troyer also said people who know Clemmons told investigators he had been shot in the torso in his bloody struggle with the officers.

“If he didn’t get a ride out of there, he could still be in the area,” Troyer said.

Seattle police spokesman Jeff Kappel said there was evidence Clemmons at one point was on the property, but officers could not determine whether he was in the house itself. Kappel would not describe what the evidence was, but said it was a “good tip” that led them to the home.

Meanwhile, University of Washington officials alerted students by e-mail and text messages to an unconfirmed report that Clemmons might have gotten off a bus on or near the campus about 3 miles north of the residence, university police Cmdr. Jerome Solomon said. Police were checking the area, he said.

At one point, what sounded like gunshots rang through the neighborhood, but Kappel said no shots were fired.

Troyer said warrants for first-degree murder have been issued against Clemmons in the killings of the officers from the Tacoma suburb of Lakewood who were gunned down in a coffee shop on Sunday morning at the start of their shifts.

Clemmons has a long criminal history, including a long prison sentence commuted by former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee nearly a decade ago, and a recent arrest for allegedly assaulting a police officer in Washington.

Authorities allege he killed Sgt. Mark Renninger, 39, and officers Ronald Owens, 37, Tina Griswold, 40, and Greg Richards, 42, as they worked on their laptop computers at the beginning of their shifts.

Clemmons is believed to have been in the area of the coffee shop around the time of the shooting, but Troyer declined to say what evidence might link him to the shooting.

Investigators say they know of no reason for gunning down the officers, but court documents indicate Clemmons is delusional and mentally unstable.

“We’re going to be surprised if there is a motive worth mentioning,” said Troyer, who sketched out a scene of controlled and deliberate carnage that spared the employees and other customers at the coffee shop in suburban Parkland, about 35 miles south of Seattle.

“He was very versed with the weapon,” Troyer said. “This wasn’t something where the windows were shot up and there bullets sprayed around the place. The bullets hit their targets.”

Officer Richards’ sister-in-law, Melanie Burwell, called the shooting “senseless.”

“He didn’t have a mean bone in his body,” she said. “If there were more people in the world like Greg, things like this wouldn’t happen.

Clemmons has an extensive violent criminal history from Arkansas. He was also recently charged in Washington state with assaulting a police officer, and second-degree rape of a child. Using a bail bondsman, he posted $150,000 — only $15,000 of his own money — and was released from jail last week.

Documents related to the pending charges in Washington state indicate a volatile personality. In one instance, he is accused of punching a sheriff’s deputy in the face, The Seattle Times reported. In another, he is accused of gathering his wife and young relatives and forcing them to undress, according to a Pierce County sheriff’s report.

“The whole time Clemmons kept saying things like trust him, the world is going to end soon, and that he was Jesus,” the report said.

Troyer said investigators believe two of the officers were killed while sitting in the shop, and a third was shot dead after standing up. The fourth apparently “gave up a good fight.”

“We believe there was a struggle, a commotion, a fight … that he fought the guy all the way out the door,” Troyer said.

In 1989, Clemmons, then 17, was convicted in Little Rock for aggravated robbery. He was paroled in 2000 after Huckabee commuted a 95-year prison sentence.

Huckabee, who was criticized during his run for the Republican presidential nomination in 2008 for granting many clemencies and commutations, cited Clemmons’ youth. Clemmons later violated his parole, was returned to prison and released in 2004.

On Sunday, Huckabee issued this statement on his Web site: “Should he be found to be responsible for this horrible tragedy, it will be the result of a series of failures in the criminal justice system in both Arkansas and Washington state.”

It was the second deadly ambush of police in the Seattle area in recent weeks, but the two cases aren’t related.

Authorities say a man killed a Seattle police officer on Halloween night and also firebombed four police vehicles in October as part of a “one-man war” against law enforcement. Christopher Monfort, 41, was arrested after being wounded in a firefight with police days after the Seattle shooting.

The officers killed Sunday had received no threats, Troyer said.

“We won’t know if it’s a copycat effect or what it was until we get the case solved,” he said.

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[8:00 a.m. - 11/30/2009] – Suspect In Wa. Police Killings Wounded, Possibly Dead

From the Associated Press:

SEATTLE — A suspect in the slaying of four police officers who were gunned down in a suburban coffee shop was surrounded by police at a Seattle house early Monday, wounded and possibly dead, police said.

Negotiators were trying to communicate with Maurice Clemmons, 37, using loudspeakers, explosions and even a robot to try to prod him from hiding. At one point, gunshots rang through the neighborhood, about 30 miles from the original crime scene.

“We have determined that in fact he has been shot,” said Ed Troyer, a spokesman for the Pierce County Sheriff. “He may be deceased from his gunshot wound.”

Clemmons, who has a long criminal history — including a long prison sentence commuted by former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee nearly a decade ago — became the prime target Sunday in the search for the killer of Lakewood police Sgt. Mark Renninger, 39, and Officers Ronald Owens, 37, Tina Griswold, 40, and Greg Richards, 42.

Authorities had speculated early Sunday that the gunman might have been wounded at the coffee shop by one of his victims. Troyer said interviews with others detained in the investigation confirmed that theory.

Police surrounded the house late Sunday, and a negotiator used a loudspeaker early Monday to call him out by name, saying: “Mr. Clemmons, I’d like to get you out of there safely. I can tell you this, we are not going away.”

Any response from inside the house was inaudible from the vantage of a photographer for The Associated Press. But shortly thereafter, police began using sirens outside the house, and there were several loud bangs before the negotiator resumed speaking, saying: “This is one of the toughest decisions you’ll make in your life, but you need to man up.”

By 3 a.m. Pacific time, the loudspeakers and explosions had fallen silent. Seattle Police spokesman Jeff Kappel said Clemmons has never responded.

Clemmons is believed to have been in the area of the coffee shop around the time of the shooting, but Troyer declined to say what evidence might link him to the shooting.

Investigators say they know of no reason that Clemmons or anyone else might have had to open fire on the four as they sat working on their laptops early Sunday morning, catching up on paperwork at the beginning of their shifts.

“We’re going to be surprised if there is a motive worth mentioning,” said Troyer, who sketched out a scene of controlled and deliberate carnage that spared the employees and other customers at the coffee shop in suburban Parkland, about 35 miles south of Seattle.

“He was very versed with the weapon,” Troyer said. “This wasn’t something where the windows were shot up and there bullets sprayed around the place. The bullets hit their targets.”

Officer Richards’ sister-in-law, Melanie Burwell, called the shooting “senseless.”

“He didn’t have a mean bone in his body,” she said. “If there were more people in the world like Greg, things like this wouldn’t happen.

Clemmons has an extensive violent criminal history from Arkansas. He was also recently charged in Washington state with assaulting a police officer, and second-degree rape of a child. Using a bail bondsman, he posted $150,000 — only $15,000 of his own money — and was released from jail last week.

Documents related to the pending charges in Washington state indicate an unstable and volatile personality. In one instance, he is accused of punching a sheriff’s deputy in the face, The Seattle Times reported. In another, he is accused of gathering his wife and young relatives and forcing them to undress, according to a Pierce County sheriff’s report.

“The whole time Clemmons kept saying things like trust him, the world is going to end soon, and that he was Jesus,” the report said.

Troyer said investigators believe two of the officers were killed while sitting in the shop, and a third was shot dead after standing up. The fourth apparently “gave up a good fight.”

“We believe there was a struggle, a commotion, a fight … that he fought the guy all the way out the door,” Troyer said.

In 1989, Clemmons, then 17, was convicted in Little Rock for aggravated robbery. He was paroled in 2000 after Huckabee commuted a 95-year prison sentence.

Huckabee, who was criticized during his run for the Republican presidential nomination in 2008 for granting many clemencies and commutations, cited Clemmons’ youth. Clemmons later violated his parole, was returned to prison and released in 2004.

On Sunday, Huckabee issued this statement on his Web site: “Should he be found to be responsible for this horrible tragedy, it will be the result of a series of failures in the criminal justice system in both Arkansas and Washington state.”

There was no indication of any connection between Sunday’s killings and the Halloween night shooting of a Seattle police officer.

Authorities say the man charged with that shooting also firebombed four police vehicles in October as part of a “one-man war” against law enforcement. Christopher Monfort, 41, was arrested after being wounded in a firefight with police days after the Seattle shooting.

The officers killed Sunday had received no threats, sheriff’s officials said.

“We won’t know if it’s a copycat effect or what it was until we get the case solved,” Troyer said.

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[2:52 p.m. - 11/29/2009] – Gunman Fatally Shoots 4 Police Officers In Washington

From MSNBC:

PARKLAND, Wash. – A gunman walked into a coffee shop and shot and killed four police officers Sunday morning in what sheriff’s officials described as an “execution.”

The officers were sitting in the cafe at a strip mall near the Tacoma suburb of Parkland with their laptop computers, preparing for their day shifts, when a man came in and opened fire, Pierce County Sheriff’s spokesman Ed Troyer said.

The officers were obviously targeted because they were in full uniform and no one else was shot at, Troyer said.

“This was more of an execution. He walked in with the mind of shooting police officers,” Troyer said.

It wasn’t immediately known if any of the officers were able to return fire. They were declared dead at the scene.

Troyer said two employees and a few customers were in the Forza Coffee shop at the time but no one else was hurt. “As you can imagine they are all traumatized,” Troyer said.

Authorities scoured the area for the gunman, who is believed to have fled on foot or by car. The suspect was described as a “scruffy”-looking black man in his 20s or 30s, 5 feet 7 to 5 feet 10, wearing a black coat ands blue jeans.

“We are in the process of searching multiple locations,” Troyer said.

Nearby McChord Air Force Base was put on alert.

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  • http://www.blackplanet.com/NtelligentlyInclined/ NtelligentlyInclined

    If they find that clown alive I hope they beat his a*s real good before he makes it to the jail. As much as I dislike cops I don’t advocate murder. He needs his a*s whooped though. Loose an eye, dislocate a jaw, paraplegic, sprain something, break something, cut something….anything…just don’t kill him.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/maatra/ maatra

    BLACK POWERRRRRRRR!!! NAT TURNER HAS RETURNED. We will be hearin more of this type of revolutionary move.

    Everything in a uniform beter make sure they life insurance is paid

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/RonRoyce26/ RonRoyce26

    Applause.. Applause..

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/blkman6ft6_inla/ blkman6ft6_inla

    cops are the only thing keeping blacks from really killing up each other.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Stan_Vinyl/ Stan_Vinyl

    blkman6ft6_inla… NOPE! YA’ WRONG ON THAT ONE! Cops are the only thing keeping black people from killing everyone else… we kill ourselves just fine thank you!

    As unfortunate as this is, This country as a whole should be highly aware black people are nolonger scared and walking around paranoid, we have come to the conclusion we’d rather die fighting then lay down and die like our previous generation.

    This is a wake up call for the law, police in particular to stop unjustly punishing blacks on the street & killing blacks for no reason… My heart feels no sympathy for this karma!

    This man did what police have done since police were formed and mobilized.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Nightowl358/ Nightowl358

    It’s both disturbing and appalling that some of you actually seem glad that this happened.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/NtelligentlyInclined/ NtelligentlyInclined

    Disturbing, appalling, and sad. None of you know these cops any better than he did, but you’re applauding their being killed? These are peoples kids, may be peoples parents, may be peoples brothers and sisters; and you can applaud their being murdered? Can these people be held accountable for the crimes of their peers? Can murdering innocent people really be called a “wake up call”? Has the murderer furthered any cause? I seriously doubt that. Murder isn’t how you send a message! All he’s really done is made life a little harder for all black males in that area who are in their “20s or 30s, and 5 feet 7 to 5 feet 10″. Why? Because I gaurantee you police are f*cking up any black male they see until this man is found. Good job a*shole. He’s also f*cked up the lives of 5 families; the families of 4 cops, and his own family! I can’t wait to hear what his mom has to say. Times like this make me ashamed to black. Not just because what he’s done, but also because of the post on this board.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/lakerdude19/ lakerdude19

    Four innocent people were gunned down while preparing to serve and protect that day, and some of you on here seem to be pleased with it.

    Whenever the police gun down a black man you throw your arms up and scream foul play, but when the reverse happens you sit back, laugh, and sympathize with the murderer.

    You guys make me sick.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/CAROLINAGIRLSRDABEST/ CAROLINAGIRLSRDABEST

    Thats sad and I don’t really care for some cops but,NOT all of them are bad some of them really do care for people. I agree with ya’ll Ntelligentlnclined and Nightowl358.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/RonRoyce26/ RonRoyce26

    Applause… Applause..

    If you’re ashamed to be black at times like this, that’s your problem… Not mine..

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/maatra/ maatra

    A innocent man was gunned down in oakland california

    A innocent man was gunned down on his weddin nite

    A innocent man was gunned down in a church in front of some babies

    An innocent elderly woman gunned down in her home in atlanta

    A innocent elderly man was gunned down at his birthday parrty in neworleans

    A innocent man gunned down out side his aprtment wit his wallet in his hand

    I can go on and on and on

    Up you mity race

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Kwizz/ Kwizz

    I love how this turned into a race issue.. as if there aren’t any black police officers. How do we know that any of these cops weren’t black? Because they were in the suburbs? Because they drink coffee? Because they had laptops? It has to be the laptops. Anyone who finds satisfaction out of this story, you’re lower than dirt and you bring nothing to society. You just help support the stereotypes out there. Thanks for nothing.

    Personally, I hope they find the person responsible for the crimes. If he has no problem walking into a coffee shop in broad daylight and gunning down four uniformed officers, I’m sure he would have no problem killing any one of us.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/KaLi_NoWhiteGirLs/ KaLi_NoWhiteGirLs

    Give thanks and PRAISE, a PIG is a PIG black, white, yellow, it doesnt matter! BLACK/AFRIKAN POWER! Look at Capitalism on its knees!!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/cookies1972/ cookies1972

    It is terrible when people think it is okay to kill someone. Then people question, why society is like it is now a days? I believe it is due to the mentality of some people thinking they can do what they want to whoever. If there were no bad people there would be no police, so since that is not the case we have police. Now, if there were no police we would have severe chaos and no one man woman or child would be safe.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Nightowl358/ Nightowl358

    Yeah, I just love how the wannabe militants and cop haters actually think this was somehow justified. List all the dirt various cops have done all you want. . . .that doesn’t rationalize or justify these four particular cops being murdered.

    That line of thinking and logic is dangerous, detrimental, and delusional and people who think this way are a part of the problem, not the solution.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Stan_Vinyl/ Stan_Vinyl

    All of you talkin that shyt about “I hope they catch him”

    Did you ever stop to think his father, sister, brother, mother or child may have been gunned down by the police in that department… of course not, cause your too busy ridin the laws d!ck.

    When you get off your raggedy ass high horse, you’ll realize the police have been killin us for years… HENCE THE CELEBRATION.

    This is not a call to celebrate taking human life, this is a call to celebrate someone being STRONG enough to even the damn odds for once. The same way blacks in N.Y. celebrated when the world trade towers got hit by planes. They were’nt happy about the terrorist attack, they were happy that someone did to them what they have been and ARE STILL doing to us for centuries… KILLING THE INNOCENT!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Stan_Vinyl/ Stan_Vinyl

    If I have to I will go word for word + 10 with anyone thinkin the police are innocent victims in this… we’re talking about the POLICE. WHEN HAVE THEY EVER SIDED WITH BLACK PEOPLE???

    WHEN?

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/maatra/ maatra

    The black woman iz god. Our ancestors are celebratin

    Phuk any muthaphuka that ride wit these kkkroked kkkraka kkkops. I know plenty black cops and many of them cant stand the kkkracka they work wit.

    None of u human life lovin mutha phukas aint say a word wen the peckerwood killed sadam. None of u mutha phukas said shyt wen the killed jeff malbo. None of u said shyt we this white bytch killed stan tookie williams

    U all are some brain washed negropeans. Phuk every kkkrooked kkkracka kkkop. U silly azz negropean shuld just stay away from shyt like this keep ya mouths closed.

    Phuk them whyte bytches and if they were black i feel a lil sympathy and jus a lil. The black kkkops need to start steppin up and puttin these kkkrooked kkkracka kkkops i check

    I never heard of black kops gunnin down innocent ppl black or whyte and with the case of shon bell the black cops only let off a couple shots and the kkkracka unloaded reloaded and unloaded

    The peckerwood even killed one of its own black officers and got away wit it

    Phuk the police

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/NtelligentlyInclined/ NtelligentlyInclined

    LOL @ “strong enough to even the odds.” Murdering 4 people sitting at a table with their faces in a computer didn’t take strength! Doing all of that and then disappearing didn’t take strength! He’s a coward. He knows he’s a coward, I know he’s a coward, and anybody with the sense that God gave them knows he’s a coward. And Stan, if murdering cops is so empowering, when are you going to kill a few? Don’t go word for word on this board, talk is cheap apparently. If you believe what your saying then why don’t you go out and kill some cops, too.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/maatra/ maatra

    God coward azz killed men women and children with fire and brimstone

    Koward azz kkkops whooped a 16 year old girl in seatle

    Kkkoward kkkops taser a 72 year old whyte woman

    Lovel mixon was no coward. He got 4 ofem

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/RonRoyce26/ RonRoyce26

    Applause… Applause…
    If anyone thinks, I’m part of the problem and not part of the solution, that’s their damn problem and not mine…

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/lakerdude19/ lakerdude19

    Maatra (Steve Urkel), you are a bigger coward than the hell-bound person who shot these 4 INNOCENT cops. All you do is talk and whine, I dare you to take some action on your words and we will see just how far you get.

    None of you should be celebrating a murderer. This has nothing to do with karma, it has to do with another deranged black man shaming the rest of you by showing how much he hates cops for reasons that only make sense to him. This man was just as much a coward as the 9/11 hijackers.

    99% of the time the cops are in the right, there are just a few whackos out there. I will defend them to the grave because thats what they do for me and all citizens every time they put on a uniform.

    Urkel once again, do us all a favor and make good on your relocation plan to Zimbabwe.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/maatra/ maatra

    Maafa 21. Watch our genoicide

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/NtelligentlyInclined/ NtelligentlyInclined

    And ummm, as far as our ancestors celebrating, maybe some are, but I can assure you not all of them. Theres one I’m thinking of in particular. Dr. Martin Luther King. One of his daughters, Bernice, told someone, “When I see us in the state we are in today, I’d rather have my dad back.” We got another one of our brothers heading to prison, more likely death, and for what? I’m sorry, call it d*ck riding or whatever you want, killing cops for any reason is not the way you send a message to that establishment. Killing INNOCENT people for any reason is not the way you send a message. Murder doesn’t take strength, doesn’t take thought, doesn’t take planing. It takes an idiot with a weapon, thats IT. Everytime we commit an IDIOTIC act to send a message, we undo every message that was sent the right way. We undo what MLK did, what Thurgood Marshall did, and what Medgar Evers did; when we commit crimes to send “messages”, the real message is lost. Instead of pumping your fist for this clown, if you see a problem in your community between the people and the government, why not get the community together and come up with a solution to the problem? Not murder! Where did murdering cops get the Black Liberation Army? Think of that. Where did it get its members? Dead, prison, and Cuba!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Stan_Vinyl/ Stan_Vinyl

    I kill spirits not bodies, I murder philosophies, idea’s, dogma’s & theories aimed at disarming mental activity geared towards prosperity & peace. I’ve been endowed with a power that exceeds mundane undertakings. I AM SOVEREIGN OF MY OWN MIND.

    NtelligentlyInclined, being able to rationalize why it’s ok for police to kill us and why it’s not ok to fight back or kill them back does not make what you say correct or acceptable. I’m sure if someone in your family had been victimized by that department, your feelings would reflect differently.

    You challenging me to go and murder because I happen to agree with the probability that these were a group of people who may have desevered what they got does nothing to move my spirit and if what the assailant did is your definition of a coward, then THE POLICE ARE THE BIGGEST GANG OF COWARDS I KNOW! THEY KILL BLACK KIDS ALL THE TIME!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/gren1shaw2/ gren1shaw2

    After reading all of the comments so-called black people have made in favor of the black women,children and baby killing and tasering police that are part of the black genocide.look at the cities where black people are tortured on top of being homeless,jobless and starving.why are’nt you n****rs in white face saying something about those atrocities,Ýou are the cowards.what the white man eats makes you s**t.and what about all the threats against your dumb black asses from racist whites.you need to hide your head in the dirt,so no one knows who you are traitors.I don’t celebrate killing but I also can’t get over all the black people being killed by the police who also believe in torturing black children by beating and tasering them.talk about that sellouts.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Stan_Vinyl/ Stan_Vinyl

    gren1shaw2… lower the boom on they ass! Say that shyt again! GOOD SHYT MAIN!!!!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/NtelligentlyInclined/ NtelligentlyInclined

    You’re preaching to the choir Stan!!! What did I say in my very first post on this board!?!?! I-DISLIKE-COPS! However….HOWEVER, I do not and will not ever condone killing them. Of all the things you said I really only want to address two things. I just sat here and read all of my post, please tell me where I rationalized police killing us? I’ve never rationalized the murder of anyone! In fact, I think my point all along has been that murder is an irrational act! If my family had been killed by cops you know where I’d be? In front of the police station with a picket sign! In front of the district attorny’s office with a picket sign! Thats what I call rational. How do we beat them by becoming them? And finally, I didn’t expect to move your spirit. Anyone who thinks innocent people “deserve” to be murdered have no spirit to move to begin with. Since you’re still here going “word for word”, you’ve only proved my point anyway, and that is you don’t believe in what your saying.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/lakerdude19/ lakerdude19

    stanvinyl and gren1shaw2, everything you have said is completely unsubstantiated.

    Gren1shaw2, I’m white… why aren’t you getting in my face? Come on son, follow your own freaking advice! Get in my face and tell me what a racist I am! You’re logic is ridiculous.

    Cops deserve the same respect our military has.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Stan_Vinyl/ Stan_Vinyl

    Lakerdude19, I gives a phucc what color/sulture you are 1st up and in being white I would expect you to say my rants are unsubstantiated, White people never like facing the truth about black genocide in the United States, hell white people try sweeping slavery under the rug.

    No honest dialogue has been had about slavery yet on a national level, so kiss my ass with that.

    NtelligentlyInclined, You keep saying innocent… just because they weren’t in motion at the time DOES NOT MAKE THEM INNOCENT! You dont know what they may have done. But I do know what police all across this nation have done in just my 36 years on Earth not to mention the murdering of our people since they came into force.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/lakerdude19/ lakerdude19

    Lol stan_vinyl, you seriously know what all police across the nation have done? Wow dude you must be omnipresent or something!

    There is no such thing as black genocide, you just need something to whine about. And please tell me what a dialogue about slavery would accomplish? And how does that relate to killing innocent cops?

    And these cops were innocent, but you obviously know something that no one else does, so please, fill us in on how they deserved to be executed! I’m dying to hear your answer!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Stan_Vinyl/ Stan_Vinyl

    Lakerdude19… The military is FULLY intergrated, police departments around this nation are still majority white, and until they act as military personal would in the inner cities… They dont deserve shyt from me, when I watched them throw my unarmed pregnant cousin down a hallway by her neck for asking “what’d he do?”

    And I meant culture not sulture.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Stan_Vinyl/ Stan_Vinyl

    Lakerdude19 You dont know what I know or if I am universally connected spiritually, I need not answer to you on that level kid. As far as the police, BOY PLEASE, we know because we live it. You’ve never had those issues, cause like you pointed out YOUR WHITE, so this topic on the level being discussed doesn’t apply to you.

    But peep this just because you can be a smartass about it doesn’t bring any respect from the black community and trust me, I’m alot closer to thinking for the entire black community than you are.

    A dialogue about slavery would firsy bring alot of bitter feeling to an end, but you not being black I wouldnt expect you to relate.

    AND BLACK GENOCIDE DOESN’T EXSIST? I’m thru talking to a dellusional person such as yourself, you tally the number of black deaths caused by all sources not natural and tell me that again.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/MR_NANASTROKER/ MR_NANASTROKER

    There is going 2 be an interesting climax 2 this story as it is being told that the REFUGEE is unknown

    So Cops All over this USnakesofA will have a reason 4 treason

    Put your boots on because this Toletarian System was ready 4 the worst but this is just A spark…..and the News in the next coming Days will be either Grim or Calm but I choose 2 take the latter being that Police are trained 2 be in combat with African American Citizens in this Nation….comprehensive nonetheless but dealing with the Poe-Lice is unequivacably and Emotional jarring.

    Let’s see what the outcome will be…..much respect 2 my brothers 4 their undying Romance of Karma–pint-sized of course

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/NtelligentlyInclined/ NtelligentlyInclined

    OMG…now I’m going to bed. LOL. I feel sorry for us. We stay in the class we’re in because of our way of thinking. Collectively. We think the world is at war with us, but you know how we’re being beat? Education and economy. Instead of fighting with our brains though (getting an education first and then work), we fight with our fist (robbing and killing)! We fight with our fist, but we don’t win with our fist! No, we get sent to prison! LOL. We go to prison and we die! Instead of putting our heads together and learning to fight them on THEIR level, we sign on to these stupid a*s boards and advocate further violence! Which gets us where? Prison and the grave. I’m done…with ya’ll anyway. My aunt passed away 8 months ago, 3 of her 4 kids were in prison that day. I’ve got another aunt dying, 2 of her 3 kids are in prison — 1 FOR MURDER! I’m tired of seeing us going to jail. Tired, tired, tired. You know, for all yall applauding this clown, I hope your sending your own kids better messages than what was sent to you. I’m just *shaking my head* and going to bed.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/handsomeblk_NYC/ handsomeblk_NYC

    Killing innocent people is never a good thing ! Yet we live in a system/society that is governed by people who have been killing innocent people around the world for centuries. The world we live in is not a difficult place, it’s the people in the world who make it very difficult to live in. Theres a reason for the madness in this world and we better open our eyes and see what’s really going on. Now I don’t hate cops but many of them are brain washed and some one is doing the brain washing.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/MR_NANASTROKER/ MR_NANASTROKER

    NtelligentlyInclined

    U say you “going 2 bed”?

    well reading the post you left and displayed your charisma for America’s Finest you have been asleep…no Hibernating…so sleep tight

    LMBAO @ “fightin with our brains(gettin an education first then work)”
    U have an American Education…try 2 self examine yourself as 2 the reason you have no INDEPENDANT EDUCATION and you cannot fight with your brains when your brain is on drugs

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/lakerdude19/ lakerdude19

    Stan_vinyl, if you think you are spiritually connected to the universe, you have issues much larger than police problems.

    And as far as the incident with your cousin — I’m sorry that it happened. But I’m sure that something like that made the news at some point… do you think you could send me a link to the story?

    And a dialogue would do no good. I say that because a “dialogue” would consist of people like Al Sharpton grasping the podium and spewing out emotional rhetoric that is somehow supposed to send me on a guilt trip. This is not a dialogue, and it would fail because you can’t give me the blame for the atrocities that people of my own race committed centuries ago. Why are we even talking about slavery on this post?

    And I don’t claim to think for the black community, I am simply defending 4 innocent cops whose murder is being praised by thugs like you and maatra.

    Bosnia, Darfur, Germany. All places where genocide occurred. None were defined by cops doing their job and protecting civilians by necessary means. So no, there is no black genocide happening here.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/committed2oneman/ committed2oneman

    I am shocked and appalled that some people can be so callous. Has it gotten so bad that life is not to be valued? Are some of you actually condoning the killing of these cops? These cops were someone’s children, parents, and siblings. Whether these cops were Black or White does not give anyone the right to take their lives. Being a cop, is an honorable profession and the first person that YOU call when a crime has been committed against you. As for me, a person in the law enforcement/military arena, I make the sacrifices that allow the person who committed this heinous crime to enjoy the rights and freedoms that every American enjoys. I hope that he is caught and that justice will prevail. As for you that think these killings are justified and cute, I pray that God will have mercy on you.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Stan_Vinyl/ Stan_Vinyl

    lakerdude19, Your would be insults to my spirituality are encouraging, the uninitiated & profane always respond to that degree. I dont think I am connected to anything… I KNOW! You’re obviously profane, thus helpless in this area.

    You are also DEEPLY clouded and out of touch if you think everything the police have done somehow gets reported to the news, or everytime they get out of line it’s caught on tape or camera. Just stop dude.

    And you have the nerve to call me a thug, that’s typical of your culture though and you seem to think you have it all figured out, Point out my thug mentality in anything I said? Show me where me and the “thugs” of this world coincide?

    And your denial of black genocide in the United States is just disgusting, not only have you dodged every question I have asked thus far, but you keep trying to assert you know me or my person. You haven’t the slightest clue who I am.

    But I can see you plain as day, research how many blacks died from 1900-1999 at the hands of violence lets see you deny genocide then. And please tell me it was mostly blacks who did it so I can tell you how inefficient the police are, better yet where these people got weapons. Cause no blacks own warehouses where the guns are shipped from and no blacks in this country make guns.

    I seen your lil kkk statements too in the other post… about you standing up for them. So dont think we haven’t all figured you out. I thought you were black so I paid it no mind, but a white person joking about siding with the klan… dont think so.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Stan_Vinyl/ Stan_Vinyl

    Oh yeah laker dude… Rosewood wasn’t genocide? Or the murdering of an entire black town in just a few short days doesn’t count?

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/prettyredd100/ prettyredd100

    THEY GOT CAUGHT SLIPPING

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/lakerdude19/ lakerdude19

    Stan_vinyl, of course I’m going to call you a thug. Your thug mentality coincides with your approval of the freakin execution of four innocent cops! Theres the thug mentality for ya.

    You are the one who is out of touch if you think the execution of these cops is justifiable. So you just stop. It’s sickening.

    What questions have you asked me that I am dodging? You haven’t asked me any questions… And how am I claiming to know you? I don’t remember saying that… But apparently you claim to know me?? — “I can see you plain as day.” — sounds like you’re the one doing the asserting buddy.

    Are you saying that the police plant these guns on black people? Do you not realize how easy it is to obtain a gun off the streets? Wow…

    I’m sure a lot of blacks died at the hands of violence, but so did alot of whites and asians, etc. I’m saying that there is no systematic elimination of your race on the part of cops going on today. You could make a case against the hispanic gangs in LA, but nothing else. You can’t claim every murder of a black person as a part of genocide…

    I already clarified my kkk post, but if you want to use that as your tiny rowboat of leverage in this argument feel free to, but I’m sticking with my battleship of common sense.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/maatra/ maatra

    1985 in philadelfia the Kkkrocked kkkracka kkkops droped a bomb on the building of the MOVE organization killin women and children and rite before they dropped they got on the loud horn and said THIS IS AMERIKKKA.

    Now thats some koward azz shyt

    The black woman iz god

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/maatra/ maatra

    Stan save yo breath for the laker bytch. He is a typical peckerwood ignorant by nature a nasty diseased filthy bytch

    Africans for africans. Kujichagulia. Uhuru Sasa

    Phuk that bytch.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Stan_Vinyl/ Stan_Vinyl

    Battleship huh? More like your titanic! (and going down fast!)

    You are trying to sum up the entire black experience in America as “Oh well, shyt happens” NO RESPECT FOR OUR CAUSE… No answer on Rosewood huh? Didn’t think so. (Battleship, LMMFBAO!)

    This is where you are obviously blind, go back and youtube the O.J. verdict and the reaction of black people ALL ACROSS America, we were happy as phucc! Because this same bullshyt system has been falsely accusing / imprisoning blacks since it’s foundation. And we finally got one in even if it was O.J.’s dumb ass!

    Look at how many blackmen in the past two decades ALONE have been freed from prison and given millions for being falsely accused. Too many to be a coincidence. There is a slow burning system of genocide that was launched against blacks during slavery and is still smoldering today.

    So you and your good turnin a blind eye ass can scat on with that there bullshyt lil’ johnny, that shyt might fly in one of your debate classes but this is real life for us and I don’t give a phucc about your point of view, Unless your willing to admit EXTREME racial profiling and IMMENSE excessive force by the vast majority of police departments against the vast majority of black communities in the U.S.!

    So stand up and scream from your mountain top that four white cops were ambushed… while I’ll keep contrasting that against the MILLIONS OF BLACK BODIES done in by POLICE, WHITE RACIST & WHITE POLITICAL FIGURES ON EVERY SCALE!

    As far as ya thug goes… rent the movie “W.” and look at your precious George W. Bush… there’s your thug.

    Wisdom on mines lil dude (It’s a black thing, don’t trip. A nigga grammar still intact)

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Stan_Vinyl/ Stan_Vinyl

    The point is you can bully people and expect nothing to happen to you, but chances are something will.

    Police are supposed to be custodians for our security, but all they’ve seemed to secure is their own agenda.

    The law abuses black people more often then they should and far more often then needed to control a situation.

    I remember Officer Bruce Vanderjagt killed at the hands of a white man here in Colorado but didn’t make national news. 1997

    But everytime there’s a black person involved it’s the main headline everywhere.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/lakerdude19/ lakerdude19

    Stan_Vinyl, I would like to respond to your entire post right now but unfortunately I’m swamped with hw so it will have to wait…

    But I did want to mention the Rosewood incident — yes this conflict fits the definition of genocide, but this happened in the 1920′s, a completely different era regarding race relations, and thus it doesn’t apply to the police force of today. In fact, Florida reviewed the case in the 1990′s and ended up compensating all of the suvivors and descendants of the black people in Rosewood. So the state of Florida made the effort to right the wrong that was done on their part (not coming to the aid of the black people) based purely on the racially motivated violence that occurred.

    So you’re telling me that while the state of Florida is handing out money to genocide victims, its employees (Florida police) are continuing to practice it? I don’t think so.

    And check out the criminal history of this cop killer you have been defending the whole time… sounds like a real stand up guy… are all of your heroes rapists?

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/RonRoyce26/ RonRoyce26

    Yeah.. It’s obvious some of you people speak from a position of ignorance of how America and the Various Police Departments works.. Especially against Blacks.. Some of you dont seem to be aware of the violence, killings carried against Blacks, by the very same Police Department that’s supposed to protect and serve them..

    Rodney King..
    That Guy, that they stuck a plunger of his anus
    That Kid that was shot in Oakland

    The above cases are some of the rare and few ones that get national attention, while the majority of the killings and violence executed against blacks seldom make the national or even local news…

    And let’s not even mention the profiling cases, the false stops and seizures, the false arrests.. etc..

    A few cops get shot and you expect “PEOPLE IN THE KNOW” to give a damn about them..

    It’s you Clowns that still have blinders on and dont realize how stuff really goes down, that can cry your tears…

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/maatra/ maatra

    This is bullshyt. They said that clemmons was around the coffee shop at the time but the piglice had no evidence to link him to the shooting

    These bastards try to kill the brotha if not killin him so they could just pin the crime on him to put the public at ease.

    This has been known to happen. Similar thang happen to queen Assata shakur kkkops killed they own and tried to pin it on her.

    This story dont sound rite at all. Sound like they did a criminal search to see who had a criminal background of whoopin kkkops and came across clemens

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/DaintyJen/ DaintyJen

    i hate the emphasis on “police” like BECAUSE they are POLICE we should care. Yes police torture and murder a lot of my people and many others, but it wasn’t an officer or a “white person” that took the life of a lot of my friends. Officer didn’t partake in Derrion Albert’s beating (chicago 16 yr old beaten to death)or Blair Holt (teen shot) etc… Yes the black communities have been and still are targeted but we are content with the way things are until somebody from our family is dead. Even then we don’t do anything but gather 20 people and walk a couple blocks shouting. WE made it so not only do we have to protect ourselves from this “color” hating government, but also from our own. We keep spitting out everything that others did/do to us but are not focusing what we do. Instead of talking about what was brought to the communities lets focus on those that ALLOW it into the communities and those that put themselves and their people into these situations. Its not about turning your back on your people or “siding with the whites” its about what it actually is. Blacks need to straighten up as well. I understand its hard and america is definitely not fair but what are u going to do, kill yourself?

    I really don’t know how to feel about this situation. This story does seem a little shaky…..

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Stan_Vinyl/ Stan_Vinyl

    Well articulated DaintyJen…

    Had someone spoke to me with that mind set like you did, I would’ve listened but I am not feeling sorry for the cops, I just wont.

    All your points are devastatingly valid and I’ve got love for you… You got this one hands down sis!

    PAR EXCELLENCE JEN!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/RonRoyce26/ RonRoyce26

    DaintyJen

    The difference between the local “thug” out to kill, rob, beat other black people and the police is that the POLICE are PAID by taxpayer dollars to Protect and Serve… Instead, we are Paying tax payer Money for the Police to Prosecute, Maim, Profile, Beat, Arrest us, Kill us…
    And in many cases, they GET AWAY WITH IT, even when there’s visual evidence against them.. That’s why it’s hard for those that are aware to feel compassion for the Police..

    The things you spoke about in your post are Part of a Larger Problem…
    A problem (Believe it or not) that stems from the breakdown of the Black Family… And govt intrusion in our affairs…

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/dganaway/ dganaway

    the police office is to quick to judge
    what do the police do to him the police should tell the whole
    story what brother in they right mine just walk in a coffee shop and open fire on the police like that its was four police something just dont sound right and why he have to be a brother police every were do some dirt
    then cover it up true that

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/jdahotboy/ jdahotboy

    when i first heard of this story i was so happy i went out and celebrated it sounds ignorant but police get away with to damn much ANYBODY WHO BELIVES IN KARMA SHOULD UNDERSTAND MY POINT…..i was beat by six officers just standing up for my brother and I justice is always going to be one-sided thats life but we can atleast try to make law and order an EQUAL RIGHT to ALL

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/MR_NANASTROKER/ MR_NANASTROKER

    Good reply 2 Jen RonRoyce26

    The affairs 2 exterminate the AfricAmeric communities and the details involved magnified 2 the degree 2 percieve what we are dealing with 2 this present day and the phenomenom of africameric youth displaying DESPAIR, VIOLENCE, HOMOSEXUALISM, DRUG ABUSE, DOMESTIC ABUSE is confounded as the DIRECT RESULT OF the MANIFESTO INCORPORATED by the proliferation of HEROINE, COCAINE, CRACK, WELFARE SYSTEM, SINGLE PARENT(MOTHER, NO FATHER 2 NURTURE MALES)HOUSEHOLDS, LACK OF EDUCATION, LACK OF CURRICULUM WITHIN EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM, LACK OF ECONOMICS on A legal scale….the drug trade has taught many brothers and sisters the fair practices of Entrepreneurship(hope I spelled it rite)but in A Negative aspect.

    Jen you spoke of the LOVE WE HUMBLY NEED WITHIN OUR YOUTH AND OLDER GENERATION 2 GUIDE AND ADVISE THEM OF THIS POWER 2 SEQUESTER HATE AND HARNESS RAW ENERGY N2 and not just complain because I hear it all the fukin time, the Older ones complain about the Youth and the Younger ones say fuk yo Old Ass…..the passing of stories around the campfire/dinnertable has been xtinguished by the VINDICTIVE SCHEMES and we have not solved these Social Ills!!! YES, YES, YES, JEN YOU ARE RIGHT!!!
    Let’s stop glorifying the blight they extended 2 us at THAT TIME and OWN UP 2 ALLOWING THE INFILTRATION 2 HAPPEN!! AND GOVERN OUR COMMUNITIES…..no involvement of the NAACP, RAINBOW PUSH, CHURCHES, POLICE, GOVERNMENT none of those entities they keep the BS going believe it or not so that they can deliver propaganda throgh news and Media Venues like this one.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/DaintyJen/ DaintyJen

    I agree with RonRoyce26 but the tax payers money goes a lot of places. The jails to make it so guilty criminals can still see the sun rise and to the people who rather live off the tax payers money instead of taking care of themselves and etc. People who qualify for and TAKE all this aid given to them but still reinforce the stereotypes against us….As far as I’m concerned I don’t want my money going to the police or those that are capable of helping themselves but rather “hustle/suck up” the tax payers money. We may pay officers salaries, but we also compensate those who aren’t deserving as well. Regardless of the reasons & excuses, there should be no reason why our own is content with killing/harming/holding back, our own.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/maatra/ maatra

    The story keeps on changin. Now “people who know” clemmons say he was bleedin from the torso.

    May just b me but this dont sound rite

    Did any of the employees or customers see what went down? Where is they statements?

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/maatra/ maatra

    Queen dainty the black woman iz god and i only worship her. But y i say this wit the most respect Queen but y do u insist on puttin the focus on africans hurtin africans

    Lions dont say that they own kind hold them back from eatin and livin good.

    Phuk the police and global white supremecy.

    We have to stop making the vicitm the perpatrator.

    We celbrate columbus day and not one naga raise a voice againts this day wen this beats killed many africans and indians to get this great land we live in called amerikkka

    Wen the elder woman in atlant got killed so many nagas pointed the finger at the elder sayin she caused her own death until the brotha came out and said the police tried to get him to lie

    Yes we have a problem within our communties and that problem is a lack of knowledge of self and we now take on the characteristics of our oppressor.

    Nagas jump up and congradulate other nagas for their RHODES SCHOLARSHIP not knowing this beast killed millions of africans

    Now i love my african queens u all are my god and i hate to go hard on my sistas because u all are the ones who have suffered the most in our enslavement of 500 years in this hell by this goddamn white man. Now its up to brothas like lovel mixon and the brotha who took out these 4 to restore our kingdom and set our god (the black woman) on top

    Phuk the piglice and global white supremecy

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/lakerdude19/ lakerdude19

    All the cops are evil and all the black people are innocent. Give me a break. Everyone posting here is just looking for someone to push the blame onto. Own up to your freaking actions.

    Maatra, you’re right, this whole situation was completely made up, and those four cops are sitting in a hideout somewhere right now laughing their heads off while the police department runs around town framing and brutally murdering thousands of black men for this completely made up crime. That story makes a lot more sense than the one being spoon fed to us by the media. — Stop with the conspiracy mess, your showing everyone that you’re even dumber than you look.

    And keep up the racist comments, they are quite humorous.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/maatra/ maatra

    Do yall see how the ignorant peckerwood come in and try to destroy our building with each otha. This dumb peckerwood dont even know what we talkin about they have a hard time comprhendin.

    The cops that got killed and the peckerwoods that are looking for the killer are just like the lakerphag ignorant slick liars.

    Y do these peckerwoods even come to our groups and try to mix it up wit us. Damn near all nagas celebrated this news and all peckerwoods are looking for justice for the four devils. Phuk them and they mommas

    Yall keep goin back and forth wit this beast. The peckerwood in here tryin to keep us divided just ignore the bytch. Ive already shut the fool down wit hitler bein a christian and hitler sayin he was a christian in his book mein kemf

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/maatra/ maatra

    My enmey wears all white even wen hes naked

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/DaintyJen/ DaintyJen

    I put emphasis on MY people because its my people who chose to feed the crap out the hands “they” give us. We do have a problem but because of our history we are excused of everything that we do? Its wrong when the police do it but when we harm/kill our own its because of the “whites” and we can’t help it? You can’t ask/want for things to get better and not be willing to take critique about yourself. I expect ugly from every and anybody but the fact that we turn against & harm ourselves as much as we do shows how much hate/shame we have amongst us. If that should be excused then, YAWN to our whole race. As far as lions if/when they could/will operate on the same levels as us then I would answer the question. My whole point is not to take a side but to state that NOBODY is innocent. White supremacists shouldn’t be taken lightly but blacks that allow everything to happen shouldn’t be excused either.

    As far as this story like I said, its not adding up

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/maatra/ maatra

    What i mean Queen Lions follow lions not chetas and they dont worry about how chetas live

    I overstand where u comin from but his beast has had a history of phukin us ova and we keep allowin this peckerwood in our circles later for the peckerwood. We have been in a psychological, spiritual and physical war wit this beast every since they stepped out them caves

    The black woman has been severly damaged by this beast cuz wen she stepped of them boats she had her children and king taken from her and left alone with the murderin rapein beast

    So i must fight along wit the rest of the african brothas to strengthen our woman, queen goddess

    Phuk this peckerwood

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/DaintyJen/ DaintyJen

    thats all the more reason why MY people shouldn’t be dying by the hands of our own. I understand all that and agree with some that you stated, BUT at the same time we have a history of “phukin” over ourselves/each other as well and we choose to remain ignorant and at the same spot…until more start to care…. it is what it is

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Stan_Vinyl/ Stan_Vinyl

    Tried to leave it alone but…

    laker dude, I was stating “fair is fair”… with the same nonchalant attitude you give toward the black plight. So fair is fair dude, ya’ dig?

    Take everything from slavery until current date and follow the pattern of “alternate punishments and abuses” inflicted on black people thoughout this nations entire history.

    THERE HAS BEEN NO PERIOD OR DURATION OF PEACE & PROSPERITY FOR BLACKS SINCE AMERICA WAS BORN!

    When they stopped treating us like property, an entire series of gambits designed & equipped with psychological games, dizzying pressure & harsh ultimatums (like share cropping & segregation amongst so called intergration) began. Lyndon B. Johnson during his term gave black’s the right to vote in 65′… I was born in 73′ and here I am at 36 chatting you,

    SO LET’S NOT ACT LIKE THE BLACK STRUGGLE IS NO MORE OR SO FAR DISTANT IN THE PAST WE SHOULD BE OVER IT!

    There are WELL ARMED American militia’s forming against Obama with press coverage and everything, had that been blacks against Bush, they would be slaughtered the next damn day! ROSEWOOD.

    And to answer your question YES, I know this nation is good for giving black people money when they are exposed but that doesn’t stop the Willie Lynch theory from being implemented on a multitude of levels.

    I see the shyt everyday. Just because you turn a blind eye doesn’t make it go away!

    Why are blacks the least percentile of the population in this nation yet the most unemployed?

    Because we’re lazy and prefer welfare???

    Well yes of course… Laziness is where I learned to articulate so well and how I was a firefighter and an electrician.

    FOUR WHITE POLICE OFFICERS WERE SLAIN BY A BLACK MAN, WAS IT JUSTIFIABLE? ONLY IF YOU TAKE THE ENTIRE BLACK EXPERIENCE INTO ACCOUNT.

    Am I happy about it? NO. Do I understand the law of karma? ABSOLUTELY.

    The Universe will show remorse/sympathy when white people stop being so callus about the state of blacks in America & rights the damn wrongs they’ve inflicted on us black people, who were stolen from one continent & shipped to another at the tune of 6-8 million (low number) deaths during the shipping and handling process.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/MR_NANASTROKER/ MR_NANASTROKER

    “FOUR WHITE POLICE OFFICERS WERE SLAIN BY A BLACK MAN, WAS IT JUSTIFIABLE? ONLY IF YOU TAKE THE ENTIRE BLACK EXPERIENCE INTO ACCOUNT.”

    So let’s take the Black experience into account like the Brother has stated;

    Also the History of Brutality that America has YET 2 ANSWER 4!!
    WITHOUTSANCTUARY.COM/ORG
    They would Lynch A Man, dismember his Privates FIRST and then his Head from it’s torso….Parade it down the street in droves of white devils celebrating….Stop at A School full of AfricAmeric children take the Head and Stick it on A pole in front of the School and Hang the rest of the Torso on the Nearest Street LightPole.

    Now I haven’t even spoke on the Crimes POE-LICE have Committed!!

    Stan I saw you going Back and Forth with that parasite(lakerdude) on one blog….Ignore the Ignorant and he will BE GONE! he knows WHO YOU ARE AND WHAT YOU ARE CAPABLE OF!! He is just Living in Fear Like the Average Caucasian is….he has 2 cope with his Demons he has lost 2…..so he tries 2 inflict his HARMony on another, for the sake of rensing his Ill-Fated Life because he has no Soul 2 sacrifice….he was never worthy of one.

    Trust and Believe that the Crimes and Holocaust Committed against US come in Justice’s we cannot grasp on 2 but I will Label some of them:
    High Rater of S.I.D.S., High Rate of Birth Deaths & Defects, Children born of uncurable sicknesses and the clincher NO MELANIN!! so the Sun can end their very existence…you know who else can die from Sun exposure…VAMPIRES see in the Movies they are fables but in real life Skin Cancer is A muthafuker

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Twentylaws1/ Twentylaws1

    I shock by the comments here! I guess I have an advantage because I live in Seattle and see, hear what’s really going on! This notion the crime committed against these police officers is a hoax is bogus! Watching the paramedics carrying four bodies out late yesterday afternoon was chilling! Even moreso, listening to the blow by blow account of the 7 hour standoff in Leschi community with SWAT hearing the helicopters whizzing by there is no conspiracy here folks! This mess is real! The lady behind the counter in the coffee shop is shooked up! She’s lucky she didn’t get blasted by Clemmons! And yes the judicial system failed him I blasted our Governor for letting him out last Wednesday. My daughter text me she received three warnings text from her university of people citing him in the University District today! People are genuinely scared here because he is running around loose! MSM don’t paint the picture thoroughly enough! Surveillance camera show him walking and blasting two police officers at point blank range then then third after a brief struggle then the fourth while wrestling with him out the door before he shot him to death then ran to a car and drove off. Two of his accomplices were arrested around 3am this morning during the standoff! One person has come forth to admit he spoke to the killer a couple of days before the killings telling him he’s gonna shoot some cops, he knew they would start their shift at the coffee shop cops frequent this place on the regular behind the Air Force Base! I want him dead and off the streets!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/MR_NANASTROKER/ MR_NANASTROKER

    Twentylaws1
    11-30-2009 11:08 pm

    I hubly Apologize but I hate when the Continuation of TRYING 2 ENGINEER MORE FEARDOM is giving…..and I give A fuk less about whoever he SUPPOSEDLY talked 2…fuk that I wanna hear the WHOLE STORY FROM THE HORSES MOUTH gottdammitt!!

    So shut the fuk up pussee
    yes you have 1 and is acting like 1

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/DaintyJen/ DaintyJen

    nobody cares about the fact that he is accused of 2nd degree rape of a child?

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/DaintyJen/ DaintyJen

    and c’mon now @ MR_NANASTROKER….lets cool down a lil bit lol

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/NICOQ/ NICOQ

    Tragic to say the lest. //\\ Prays for the lost souls.
    As for the Rogues, Hollows and Agitators.

    Proverbs 18:2

    18:6-7

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/maatra/ maatra

    And if thats what happen twenty that good fo the godamn beast. I wish clemmons would have planned it a lot better and went on to gun down more kkkrocked kkkracka kkkops.

    Hope to hear more stories like this real soon. I will defend my brothas and sistas to the end. Phuk a damn peckerwood pig azz kkkop

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Nightowl358/ Nightowl358

    Yeah, well, that bastard is dead now.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/lakerdude19/ lakerdude19

    Thankgoodness

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Sub-Negro/ Sub-Negro

    This is a messy situation.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/deshawn121/ deshawn121

    this guy was a career criminal, his latest crime was raping a 12 year old. all you pro black people thinking criminal are the victims i dare you to let him move in with you, he would kill you and rape your family. this was a animal that deserved to be put down. once again we as black people need to really look into a large proportion of black people with extreme mental issues.

    If we keep playing this game of we dont go to mental professionals for help our communities will be destroyed

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Stan_Vinyl/ Stan_Vinyl

    deshawn121…

    He shot 4 police officers and didnt shoot anyone else there, I’m not holding him as a hero, but it’s obvious he wasn’t out to kill everyone.

    Most everyone here has a rapist or pedophile in their neighborhood and is not even aware.

    So just stop with the imaginated scenerio of Clemmons the big bad boogie man…

    Roman Polanski did the same thing but is a big time hollywood producer so phuccin spare me the antics!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/deshawn121/ deshawn121

    ARE YOU SERIOUS STAN, you cant be serious, your hate of the law is so deep that you would justify a person being a rapist or pedophile as ong as he destroy any law enforcement. i dont know whos worse the killer or the person who sees the killer as a victim. have you seen his rap sheet? so you have no problem having him watch your young family members?what has made you so bitter toward the law? your mind is twisted, justification of raping a 12 year old because he killed law enforcement is sick and sadistic, my friend you are just as worse.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Stan_Vinyl/ Stan_Vinyl

    “I dare you to let him move in with you, he would kill you and rape your family.”

    Who the phucc would do that? That was just a dumb ass question… and your inability to understand my point shows YOUR mind is twisted. No one but family watches my kids or my nieces first off…

    Because like I said in another article, BLACK CHILDREN ARE MOLESTED OFTEN! I was molested by non-violent females growing up, So NO dumbass, I wouldn’t let him watch anyone in my family.

    And not once in this article in ANY OF my statements did I justify his actions as a rapist, rape is below sub-human JACKASS! And 12 years old at that? Get the phucc on with that bullshyt!

    Lastly, police are weak ass cowards who run around abusing power on a NATIONAL level especially toward black people, so you & the police can have each other.

    I’ll stay with the people who understand the police and Clemmons are of the same damn breed!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Stan_Vinyl/ Stan_Vinyl

    deshawn121, trying to assess my mental is futile. I think deeper than you obviously assume I do. Judge me if you like, but don’t get mad when I pass judgement on you homes. Str8 up.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/deshawn121/ deshawn121

    hate to break the news to you stan but you are not deep. you come dime a dozen,another black guy not disciplined enough to survive in the real world so you live in a world where you dont have to listen to the law, dont have to get a steady job, dont have to repsect yourslef and once in a while dress and look like a man. just stay around the block a place where you feel safe and listen to music dreaming. your world is simple because you never have to take responsibility for anything, you are the ultimate victim of society, the white cops hurt you, the white system hurt you, if only they would respect you, but you dont respect yourself.let me ask you do you have a long police record? here is a revolutionary thought if you dont want to deal with the police stop doing crimes.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Stan_Vinyl/ Stan_Vinyl

    deshawn121, sorry to hit you hard with reality man, but that’s not my world at all!

    I don’t even live in an area where you can “hang” on a block, I moved my kids to a nice neighborhood so they wouldnt have to go thru ALL that I went thru.

    I listen to music because I make it and sell it for a living, doing quite well… well enough to support my five kids. Yeah there are 3 moms, but I owe no child support because I take care of my children. And the mothers all interact with each other, even when I’m out of town. I’ll make my kids photos public for 24 hours so you can get a gander. (then they go back to friends only)

    I am in the international who’s who of professionals for 1999 (Stanley “GummiBear” Jones) which goes out to over 100 different countries & I’m in the international poets society as well, inducted in 2001 for my poem “The Mirror” (look me up in both) I also belong to the Ausar Auset society (my name there: Nefer Ankhi Maa) Hotep! I was also solicited by Neo-Tech, Nouveau-Tech, Novus-Tek societies (the new illuminati) because the said I was born under a special sine-wave they were interested in, I still keep the invites but turned them down. I do have their very expensive ($400) manuscript though. (Zonpower gave me a headache but I read the whole thing) Same stuff I learned in Ausar Auset soc. for far cheaper.

    I don’t have to listen to the law because I don’t go around breaking them. I do have a record, not very long (unless you count my speeding tickets) I also went thru a period of kickin ass after mastering martial arts so I have 3 assaults to my shame. (look me up there too)

    Not disciplined? I was a firefighter (forester) in the National Civilian Community Corp “Americorps”(94′-95′ pilot program) and completed over 1100 hours of community service in 11 months, worked my ass off for those creds. I am also a level one electrician, but saw no future in it… but now America is building a new power grid so I’m in prime position for that as well. (You can check Florida University for that accreditation)

    The cops did hurt me as a minor, that’s why I became a martial artist. Check Colorado’s history in the 90′s for phuckin police & kkk up in riots, downtown Denver 1993 where my older brother Shannon Richardson was charged as the person who started the riot.

    I don’t need their respect, or yours. I have about 190,000 people on my friends list here on BlackPlanet who give me the love I need.

    So sorry I’m not that dude you described. Good luck pinning that on someone where it’ll stick, I stayz sucka free! HA HA HA HA HA HA.

    Your off target and off topic & now you just look plain stupid, everything I stated can be back with adequate doc**entation.

    Deeper than you assumed, like I said.

    Holla.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/maatra/ maatra

    Y did they take the pic down of clemmons what they dont want us lookin at our HERO.

    The beast put goerge washington on a dollar bill and we have to look at this rapist and enslaver a lyin azz thief and murderer.

    We want so bad to have benjamin franklin in our pockets clothes and wall this bytch was a rapist and enslaver

    Many celebrate and cant wait for kris columbus day to get half off on a plasma tell lie vision set and this bytch was a child molester and he even raped men that was chained up on boats.

    And the beast that got gunned down all had the american flag on their uniform and under that flag millions of africans have been murdered by this pink ugly azz beast. And many of u dumb phukas stand and salute the flag of our enemy.

    WAKE THE PHUK UP

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/djac185503/ djac185503

    The Police are supposed to protect and to serve. I believe the police had the right suspect. I knew they wouldn’t take this guy into custody. I knew they would kill him. There are a number of cases nationally where blacks are killed and it is swept under a rug. 3 young bros killed in St. Louis the last week of Nov. They were car thieves fleeing police. They were shot and killed. Yes a lot of times bros are dead wrong but justice for black men is lopsided.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Stan_Vinyl/ Stan_Vinyl

    Maatra… you and me are on the same side bruh, but Clemmons isn’t a hero at all, just a black man who got it in on those cowards who make a career out of carrying guns and carrying out violence on the mostly unarmed.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/maatra/ maatra

    Brotha stan Mugabe is a hero to some and a enemy to others. I read the book The Prine by niccoli macheaveli and study it.

    Our ppl are livin in a sick azz society controled by sick azz ppl.

    If i stb my toe i blame it on the goddamn white man.

    With all respect to u as my brotha of the african holocaust but never tell a man who is HEROES are.

    Let the peckerwood give the public the complaint records of the officers that was slain.

    I have a friend who has a record as a child molester because some shyt went down in the house that he owned and he wasnt even in the house or even in the city wen it went down.

    Like dave chappel said on the episode he did abour r kelly every brotha and sista are innocent of all charges put on them by this goddamn white man

    Maurice Clemmons and Lovel Mixon are my HURUS

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  • http://www.blackplanet.com/beauty456/ beauty456

    I to knew that they would never take this guy in alive. But if the brother is saying that he is Jesus, and raping little girls, that should show you that he had some problems. Seriously, there are a lot of mentally ill people walking around here, and nobody cares. Oh yeah, we have to keep spending billions on a war that is leading to nowhere, like the bridge in Alaska.
    Anyone who read this article carefully and knows just a little about mental health, can tell that this man had some serious mental problems. I feel bad for the police and for his family. Someone should have tried to get this man some help a long time ago!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/maatra/ maatra

    The brotha wasnt that mentally ill he knew that somebody had to send a message to these kkkrocked kkkracka kkkops.

    I mean yall act like yall forgot about the 16 year GIRL old who the kkkops whooped on in seatle in they jail

    He wasnt that SICK he didnt harm any of the customers or employees.

    The brotha recognized his enemy and all the dirty s**t that they do to African ppl and he took em out

    Cant wait to hear more of this type of PAY BACK

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/MR_NANASTROKER/ MR_NANASTROKER

    The poe-lice saying that this brother was accused of Rape and all that BS slander is of no importance
    If the Government and Poe-Lice can lie on you what makes you people think they won’t twist and turn the story and DIRTY THIS MAN NAME UP????

    They did it all the fukin Time

    Martin L King
    Malcolm X
    Harold Washington
    Saddam Hussein
    Osama Bin Laden….9/11 was A Conspiracy I would advise you all 2 get the Right informarion about why they do these crimes 2 pass Unnatural Laws and Many other Reasons…freedom2fascism.com
    Barack Obama…yes your president will carry out the Imperialist Initiative
    Marcus Garvey
    J. F. Kennedy
    Atlanta Child Murders
    History
    ….and the list goes on and on
    Stop being so fukin GULLIBLE

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  • http://www.blackplanet.com/lakerdude19/ lakerdude19

    Nanas how is it not important that he was a rapist? Disclosing that information does not constitue slander… open a dictionary. This guy dirtied up his own name, and the fact that you think he is completely clean just because he’s black really shows your ignorance.

    And anybody who defends saddam hussein and osama bin laden has some serious issues.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/lakerdude19/ lakerdude19

    Maatra does it not bother you that your “hero” raped a 12 year old.

    StanVinyl, gotta give you credit for recognizing that this man is NOT a hero. See I’m somewhat reasonable!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/BroAshanti/ BroAshanti

    Too bad the police didn’t put down this thug before he shot them.

    I say, damn him to hell.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/sweetcarmel029/ sweetcarmel029

    This guy wasnt a hero in nobodys eyes and i dont think that he deserved to die just because he killed cops theres just away to do things in this day and time they killed this man and after they killed him the undressed him and took pictures of him and put them on the internet as if that was something cool to do..Its funny how they let the green river killer live after killing 150 ladys but when a black man does anything there quick to beat or try to kill so quick i just think its a double stainer if u ask me and i live in this neigborhood i grow up in the southen of seattle and the police has gotten worst not better all im saying i think that they need a little more training on difficult situtions…

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/lakerdude19/ lakerdude19

    sweetcarmel, he came at the cop with a gun, of course the cop was going to shoot him!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/DaUnbreakable1/ DaUnbreakable1

    SO BECAUSE HE BLACK MEANS WHAT? LMAO HE GOT WHAT HE DESERVED LOL

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