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WASHINGTON — Students beware: The summer vacation you just enjoyed could be sharply curtailed if President Barack Obama gets his way.

Obama says American kids spend too little time in school, putting them at a disadvantage with other students around the globe.

“Now, I know longer school days and school years are not wildly popular ideas,” the president said earlier this year. “Not with Malia and Sasha, not in my family, and probably not in yours. But the challenges of a new century demand more time in the classroom.”

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The president, who has a sixth-grader and a third-grader, wants schools to add time to classes, to stay open late and to let kids in on weekends so they have a safe place to go.

“Our school calendar is based upon the agrarian economy and not too many of our kids are working the fields today,” Education Secretary Arne Duncan said in a recent interview with The Associated Press.

Fifth-grader Nakany Camara is of two minds. She likes the four-week summer program at her school, Brookhaven Elementary School in Rockville, Md. Nakany enjoys seeing her friends there and thinks summer school helped boost her grades from two Cs to the honor roll.

But she doesn’t want a longer school day. “I would walk straight out the door,” she said.

Domonique Toombs felt the same way when she learned she would stay for an extra three hours each day in sixth grade at Boston’s Clarence R. Edwards Middle School.

“I was like, `Wow, are you serious?’” she said. “That’s three more hours I won’t be able to chill with my friends after school.”

Her school is part of a 3-year-old state initiative to add 300 hours of school time in nearly two dozen schools. Early results are positive. Even reluctant Domonique, who just started ninth grade, feels differently now. “I’ve learned a lot,” she said.

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Does Obama want every kid to do these things? School until dinnertime? Summer school? And what about the idea that kids today are overscheduled and need more time to play?

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Obama and Duncan say kids in the United States need more school because kids in other nations have more school.

“Young people in other countries are going to school 25, 30 percent longer than our students here,” Duncan told the AP. “I want to just level the playing field.”

While it is true that kids in many other countries have more school days, it’s not true they all spend more time in school.

Kids in the U.S. spend more hours in school (1,146 instructional hours per year) than do kids in the Asian countries that persistently outscore the U.S. on math and science tests — Singapore (903), Taiwan (1,050), Japan (1,005) and Hong Kong (1,013). That is despite the fact that Taiwan, Japan and Hong Kong have longer school years (190 to 201 days) than does the U.S. (180 days).

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Regardless, there is a strong case for adding time to the school day.

Researcher Tom Loveless of the Brookings Institution looked at math scores in countries that added math instruction time. Scores rose significantly, especially in countries that added minutes to the day, rather than days to the year.

“Ten minutes sounds trivial to a school day, but don’t forget, these math periods in the U.S. average 45 minutes,” Loveless said. “Percentage-wise, that’s a pretty healthy increase.”

In the U.S., there are many examples of gains when time is added to the school day.

Charter schools are known for having longer school days or weeks or years. For example, kids in the KIPP network of 82 charter schools across the country go to school from 7:30 a.m. to 5 p.m., more than three hours longer than the typical day. They go to school every other Saturday and for three weeks in the summer. KIPP eighth-grade classes exceed their school district averages on state tests.

In Massachusetts’ expanded learning time initiative, early results indicate that kids in some schools do better on state tests than do kids at regular public schools. The extra time, which schools can add as hours or days, is for three things: core academics — kids struggling in English, for example, get an extra English class; more time for teachers; and enrichment time for kids.

Regular public schools are adding time, too, though it is optional and not usually part of the regular school day. Their calendar is pretty much set in stone. Most states set the minimum number of school days at 180 days, though a few require 175 to 179 days.

Several schools are going year-round by shortening summer vacation and lengthening other breaks.

Many schools are going beyond the traditional summer school model, in which schools give remedial help to kids who flunked or fell behind.

Summer is a crucial time for kids, especially poorer kids, because poverty is linked to problems that interfere with learning, such as hunger and less involvement by their parents.

That makes poor children almost totally dependent on their learning experience at school, said Karl Alexander, a sociology professor at Baltimore’s Johns Hopkins University, home of the National Center for Summer Learning.

Disadvantaged kids, on the whole, make no progress in the summer, Alexander said. Some studies suggest they actually fall back. Wealthier kids have parents who read to them, have strong language skills and go to great lengths to give them learning opportunities such as computers, summer camp, vacations, music lessons, or playing on sports teams.

“If your parents are high school dropouts with low literacy levels and reading for pleasure is not hard-wired, it’s hard to be a good role model for your children, even if you really want to be,” Alexander said.

Extra time is not cheap. The Massachusetts program costs an extra $1,300 per student, or 12 percent to 15 percent more than regular per-student spending, said Jennifer Davis, a founder of the program. It received more than $17.5 million from the state Legislature last year.

The Montgomery County, Md., summer program, which includes Brookhaven, received $1.6 million in federal stimulus dollars to operate this year and next, but it runs for only 20 days.

Aside from improving academic performance, Education Secretary Duncan has a vision of schools as the heart of the community. Duncan, who was Chicago’s schools chief, grew up studying alongside poor kids on the city’s South Side as part of the tutoring program his mother still runs.

“Those hours from 3 o’clock to 7 o’clock are times of high anxiety for parents,” Duncan said. “They want their children safe. Families are working one and two and three jobs now to make ends meet and to keep food on the table.”

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  • http://www.blackplanet.com/WestsideCartelAtl85/ WestsideCartelAtl85

    Longer school days aren’t the answer at all. Yes some foreign countries go to school six days a week or have longer days. But these other countries value and respect education unlike the average American. The public school system needs to be restructured in order to be successful. Also parents besides educators need to be held accountable for their child’s progress in school.

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  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Kountry_Mayne/ Kountry_Mayne

    longer school days and less breaks could lower the teenage death rate by keeping these kids off the streets for as long as possible with the help of some other laws put into place like curfews and such.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/DaintyJen/ DaintyJen

    This will just increase the drop out rates…what i get from this idea? Parents being lazy. I agree with WestsideCartelAtl85. I go to the Philippines every summer with my dad to teach and what I notice is that not only do they respect education, their parents drill them. Their parents press how much a good education and a different life style is important. I mean kids at age 6 reading at 5th grade levels. There were a lot of 8th graders learning calculus and physics. The answer is not longer school days, people need to get in each others azz and tell them to stop being lazy with their children. Having 5+ minute conversations (of substance) goes a long way for a child. In addition, I watch a lot of the neighborhood kids when they get off of school. If they can’t teach me what they’ve learned then theres a problem. Most of the kids barely talk to their parents. Most of their parents cant even help them with many math problems. It isn’t JUST my job and other counselors jobs to make sure others children are on top. UGH its amazing how although late generations are causing a lot of destruction, nobody really truly sees the actual input of WHY they are acting out this way. I know 1 thing….IT ISNT THE WHITE MAN!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/2daTopnonStop/ 2daTopnonStop

    Longer school year yes! Longer school days no~

    My daughter has about 2 1/2-3 hours of homework a night, not including flute practice. So having her come home at 5 pm and working until 9pm is not plauseable or ok w/ me.

    Now I do think that her being out of school for 3 months for a summer break is pointless and would support a longer school year~

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/littlebabymia/ littlebabymia

    I am all for both ideas, but unless these educator’s begin to get more pay, supplies and parental involvement it won’t be worth it. Children need to do what they are supposed to do and these parents need to be parents, not their kids friends. It a time and place for everything and when your child is messing up in school that is not the time to be friends. Why has it taken so long for the U.S. to catch up to other countries with year long schooling? Is this why our children have to work harder and compete for college against non-american students?

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/NYCsmoove/ NYCsmoove

    Longer school days isn’t the answer. President Obama turned out fine with our current school days. Kids need downtime too to refresh their minds.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Da_J_Rok/ Da_J_Rok

    lol @ DaintyJen

    I still blame the “White Man”… but I agree with everything else.

    Our culture has gotten away from values and it has been polluted with figments of vanity and unearned wealth. The true meaning of “Family” is missing, a generation of unwed parents and disfunctional households, not to mention a higher increase of “KIDS” having “CHILDREN”… When u got 3 generations of family in a nightclub, u know something aint right about that picture. I wish more “WOMEN” would teach their daughters to abstain from sex as much as possible, and more “MEN” would step up and be fathers to the sons. Not just from an educational standpoint but from a life perspective, book sense is a tool, common sense leads u in thru life.

    I wanna give shout to Carla Mary Davis R.I.L. thank u for all the swag baby!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/CrystalCry/ CrystalCry

    I’m indifferent to the concept. One hand, I can see it increasing the drop out rate drasticly! Being that this is America, the country where doin nothin can make u rich. So many generations have been bought up on jus gettin by, manipulating da gov, or hustling. So stayin in school all day would b a dilema to them. On the other hand, it can/will make us more marketable as a country. I think some serious reconstruction is need in our school systems for this to even begin to work. But how do u get parents to participate n pitch in once their child gets home? My son is in kindergarten and the 1st PTA meetin, out of 22 kids in his class only 9 parents showed up! I grew up in a home where education was key, my mother was PTA president till I was n hs!! This will b Obamas greatest challenge, he jus needs to find a medium between promoting productivity without burning children out at a young age.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Sub-Negro/ Sub-Negro

    This does go back to the home really. Parents are suppose to drill education in there kids head at an early age. I wish my parent’s would’ve done that to me. Dat’s why them asians come here are dominate these test scores and end up outperforming and out earning the white people. It’s always funny that sometimes they don’t even appear in those charts in regards to income. White people hate being topped lol.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/DMY19151/ DMY19151

    THESE CHILDREN IN PHILLY DON’T EVEN GO TO SCHOOL…PROBABLY HALF OF THEM…THEY HANG AROUND THE SCHOOL OR ON THE STREETS SMOKING BLUNTS AND OTHER THINGS BESIDES SCHOOL…HOW IN THE WORLD CAN THEY STILL LIVE AT HOME AND DON’T GO TO SCHOOL..THE PARENTS ARE AFRAID OR JUST DON’T CARE ABOUT THE CHILDREN…EVERYTHING STARTS FROM HOME….SCHOOL,CHURCH,MANNERS…EVERYTHING!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/robert3652/ robert3652

    I AGREE ONE HUNDRED PERCENT. OUR YOUNG CHILDREN WOULD NOT HAVE ALL THAT TIME GEETING INTO TROUBLE. I MUST SAY IT WOULD NOT SOLVE ALL THE PROBLEMS,HOWEVER, I THINK AT THIS POINT ANYTHING IS WORTH A TRY.

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