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You could have posted this in line with all the other idiots who are missing the point into what Spike is saying. Doc, less feminism more POWER!!!

Exactly, it’s not all about Madea, she’s just a character being played by a man. Most of us have a Madea in our families and to tell you the truth they were right. In real life it’s a hell of a lot worse, trust me.

I have ben arguing that same point, DaJRok. Can we get some positive imagery please? Spike at least had a message behind what he was doing. I don’t think it’s feminism when you have to step on the back of the Black Man to empower the Black Woman. Even the Hispanic guy he brought into this last movie was viewed into a more positive light. We don’t need more images of desperate black women in need of life changes and the black man who are absent and downtrotten. Not only do we see that personally on a daily basis, but we get it the media, the schools with No Child Left Behind, the job market, the credit/banking system, housing, and every other thing necessary for us as Black people to succeed. I’m not judging anyone and hating on their success, but I think he doesn’t have to down his race to do it. Get on him, Spike!

I agree with this article WHOLEHEARTEDLY. It is what it is…tomatoe,tomato. People are going to have their NARROWMINDED views and if it doesn’t jive with how they feel or what they think it should be like than it is instantly wrong. WHATEVER (smdh)!!! I wish TP continued success in all that he does. Blessings :).

Im watchin niger charlie wit fred williamson and he killing all kinds of kkkrackas

Phuk that phagot tyler fairy. Spike ie right

FINALLY! Someone with some sense. THis is absolutely how I view it as well. Kudos to you Dr. Watkins! Black people, we have got to stop worrying so much about how we present ourselves to “white people” we are all human…we are all PEOPLE…there is good and bad in anyone, and for us to think that even in entertainment and media we need to put on this “show of perfection” is ridiculous. If others outside looking in have not realized by looking at Oprah Winfrey, Barack and Michelle Obama, Venus and Serena Williams etc.etc.etc that BLACK PEOPLE are smart, intelligent and as brilliant as anyone else…then that is THERE LOSS. We have a BLACK PRESIDENT for Chris’t sake….its time for us to move on…we are already a SUCCESS!

its not about how we present ourselves to just white people but all other people. its bad enough mainstream media makes a bad examples of blacks

its even more fu/cked up when you got people like TP contributing to it….and a black person that goes anywhere in the world is judged on these coonish depictions. you go to other countries…the locals barely even know who Michelle Obama is or the Venus sisters, they dont get as much exposure to positive

examples of Black people or historical figures . they get bombarded with coonish, negative, and stereotypical depictions of blacks than anything else

and whatever they see on tv or popular media about these stereotypes, they believe it like gospel and thats a disgrace.

dude is a 21st century Minstrel entertainer. other ethnic groups go out of thier way to represent themselves “perfectly”….even if they have to Lie and exaggerate.

we’ve gotten too complacent. celebrities are worshipped and treated as though they cant do no wrong and when someone points that out

they are labelled as a “hater”…..thats how dumbed down people have become

spike got all these things to say why dont he make a move thats good actually i never watch one of his movies all the way through cause they stupid to me so instead of him tryin to talk bout tyler he nee to make a movie

Three reasons why I disagree with Dr. Watkins

1)When you say TP is not ALL about Madea, suggests that even you believe Madea is a very negative image.

2)Every Blackman doesn’t have to be Barack Obama, but the fact is, the amount of positive black images vs. negative ones is severely out of whack and does not even come close to supplying anything resembling a balance. If there were at least the same amount of positive black images as there are negative ones, then at least I have the opportunity to choose. As it stands now, the choice is either negative black images or the Discovery channel.

3) Spike is speaking to the bigger issue of negative imagery in Hollywood which has been an issue since Hollywood has been existence. This is much bigger than TP, because black actors have been typecast in Hollywood for years. Think about why anyone is typecast. Its because the general public is used to seeing you in a certain role, and you won’t be “believable” in a role, we aren’t used to associating with you.

I’m on Spike’s side. I can’t stand watchin “House of Payne” or “Meet the Brown.” Yes, I think Spike Lee could have picked betta words to describe his feelin but it is what it is!! I jus think they ova act, there IS a difference n stage actin n television that they havne’t perfected as of yet.
As far as TP’s movies…I’ve skipped out on some cuz I got tired of the druggies, da molestors, da sex addicts…Not that they don’t exist but I’m tired of him goin to his (TP’s) “comfort” characters/situations. Yes he ALWAYS shows positive blk men n women but he needs to expand creatively!!

I have to go with Spike on this one. Tyler Perry deserves credit for defeating the odds (opening his own studio, exceeding sales with low budget movies etc), but let’s be real, he does reinforce negativity in some of his movies. People, who in my opinion cannot understand a Spike Lee movie need to continue to feed the 21st Century Minstreal machine (Madea movies).

I have to say that TP needs to move on to a much more intelligent genre of movies. The whole, needy black lady, the old lady slapping people all the time needs to end. I’m not saying it doesn’t exist, but to continue to perpetuate that ignorance is adding fuel to the fire. Will he lose his audience? Maybe, and I think that’s what he fears. Losing people while making intelligent films. Tyler Perry does need to step up in many ways. I still wish him plenty of success.

I think it’s all also sad to see what kinds of movies black people would rather see. How many blacks went to see Spike Lee’s “Miracle at Santa Anna’s” versus “Madea goes to jail”?

I heard Tyler Perry’s response to Spike Lee’s criticism, stating that he does add good things while portraying Madea, like injecting love, compassion, family etc in his films. But my question for Tyler Perry is, why use coonery to inject these messages? Must it be a black man dressed as an old lady smacking people to get her point across? If that’s the case, it’s really sad, and the thought that it must be through a character like Madea is embarassing. I don’t have a Madea in my family (not one), so to say that it exists in every black family, is a fallacy. It’s ignorant to think that’s how high most people think of themselves and of black families.

I hope once Tyler Perry’s contract ends with Liongate, he can move on to making better quality movies like “Why did I get married?”, and “The Family that Preys”. He also needs to quit with “Meet the Browns”. Too coonish. House of Payne is ok. Nothing negative there. Good Luck to Tyler Perry in the future, but we have to admit…SPIKE LEE HAS VALID POINTS. The embarrassment needs to stop.

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I somewhat agree with both Spike and Tyler. Spike is entitled to his opinion, but It does border on the lines of jealousy. I have seen a lot of Spike’s movies and several of them are too deep. Many people miss the point or message he is trying to deliver. “White” Hollywood has directors or producers who make different types of movies. Tyler just makes a different type of movie than Spike. The Medea movies due at times border on coonery, but he had much better movies than those. Daddy’s Little Girls, The Family that Preys. and etc..

“never watch one of his movies all the way through cause they stupid to me so instead of him tryin to talk bout tyler he nee to make a movie”
Figured it would some stupid country azz bama saying this!

WOW!!! I am SHOCKED!!! When I first came over to this page just now, I just KNEW that 99.99% of the people in here were gonna be on Tyler’s side!! I’m so very relieved to see that that’s NOT the case!! :-) I must say that, with the exception of Anthropological, DarkChocolate1, & CramelLuv4U25.. I virtually agree with everybody else (the other 10) in here! I also wanna say that it’s NOT just about how we’re represented to ‘The White Man’. It’s about how we’re represented in the eyes of OUR children!! These kids coming up nowadays NEED to see some POSITIVE role models!! If you expose children to nothing but Dysfunction, what the HELL does anyone expect to see in them as they grow??!! Whomever can’t comprehend what we (I and the others I agree with in here) are saying, please click on the ‘X’ in the right upper corner of your screen and go and pray at your Tyler Perry alter that I’m sure you have somewhere in your home! ;-)

Spike lee is just jealous old and senile

I am sick and tired of black people attacking other black people success! Tyler Perry is putting black people to work on a consistant basis! Ok what is the solution? Everybody says what should not be going on but is Spike Lee going to come up with better projects and put all those people to work I would respect that more than him attacking a brother. Also alot of those images do exist! Tyler does show diversity! Everyone complained about videos girls but no one came up with jobs for all the black women that were put out of jobs! When Jessie jackson campaigned to have a black man taken off of the air! BOONDOCKS! Why isn’t it a crusade to have Family guy taken off the air! And why did AL Sharpton give Dog the bounty hunter a pass! Is it because the people that own dog the bounty hunter show also own the radio station that AL Sharpton gets paid to talk on weekly? IT IS TRUE WE ARE OUR ON WORST ENEMY!!!!!!!!!!

Sadly, this issue will get legs only on the point of pettiness–Spike vs. Tyler. What we need to recognize is we should all be careful about the images we project. It is so true Tyler’s craft is comedy. Nonetheless, we live in a society where self-imposed segregation is commonplace. With said I ask, How do you think the self-segregated get their knowledge of us-Black and brown folk? Media vehicles. That is, T.V., Radio, Film, Print. If the prevalent images gleaned by the aforementioned are not those that represent the actual diversity of our community we will continue to be marginalized. That is point and only issue here. At every readers’ job they are careful to not project or have a negative image projected upon them. The truth will always defend itself.

I got your back, Spike. Spike can be an @sshole more often than not. But he’s an amazing filmmaker and hs movies are real true cinema while Miss Perry seems to be making pretty simplistic movies aimed at people who should know better don’t. My girlfriend drags me to Madea movies so Perry does get my money and Im glad to help a brotha out. It means more black movies and hopefully more successful black movie directors. Spike needs to lighten up a little. There’s enough room for other black filmmakers. But Perry needs to start making movies for today’s black people. We dont’ need every little plot angle explained to us. How about some more complexity and depth and less cross-dressing and over-the-top minstrelsy ‘ ?? Hire some real actors and not a bunch of r&b singers trying to fake the funk. That’s the difference between Lee and Perry: Lee knows how to direct actors and get the best out of them. That’s why he can demand the best actors for his movies. That’s why he can get Denzel Washington, Giancarlo Esposito, Anthony Quinn, Chewitol Edjifor, John Turturo, Tim Robbins, Samuel L. Jackson, Halle Berry. Those actors have done more real acting in Spike’s movies than in many of their other roles. I don’t expect to see many marquee actors like those in Perry’s movies. Probably just more out of work r&b stars like he gets in his plays. When’s Christopher Williams gonna show up? haha

spikes movies were interesting to watch and uncertain of him being bashful when they both reflect reality of certain black community crowds. although tyler movies had diversity, ghetto fab vs classy and drama. the spike movies had similar attributes, while depicting to more of a violent, sexual and love triangles. if you look at the bigger pictures their movies were relevant and the only difference is the presentation of a shared idea. {case closed} lol!

who cares what they think of each other…when are the two of them going 2 get together and produce something 4 us 2 learn from and laugh at…huuuuuuh?

Someone said WE are already a success when we have a President that is close to our hue…..bullsh*t….not when we have millions of our youth showing guns and their bare essentials on the net and when kids are publicly killing people…Not a success at all…..STOP BEING DUMB AND WAKE THE HELL UP MY PEOPLE…..Im sorry to TP, the coonery is there.

COOL250 YOU are right, We blacks are our own worst enemy…and that’s a pity…reading how harsh a lot of these men are using such racially charged words as coonery…do you even know what this mean, this is what white ppl called blks in the 60s along with porch monkey…i really don’t know how WE BLACK MEN CAN BE SO PASSIONATE IN HATING OURSELVES…IF RESEARCH MY LAST POSTING…TO REALLY KNOW WHERE I AM COMING FROM…THIS IS A SHAME, EVERYBODY’S COMMENT MUST TOP THE NEXT, EVERYBODY GOTTA SHINE, MY CAR IS BETTER THAN YOURS, YOU ARE A DIFFERENT TYPE OF BLACK THAN ME…OTHER GROUPS ARE STARTING TO SEE THIS AND MANIPULATE US…TAKING OUR MONEY FROM IGNORANCE SUCH AS THESE ASIAN WEAVE SHOPS, CHINESE STORES IN THE HOOD SERVING UP THAT FRESH CAT MIX, WHITE FOLKS OWNING SITES LIKE BLACKPLANET, LAUGHING AT THE SHI.T, GUCCI, PRADA AND THE REST…WHY IS IT WE CAN JST BE US, IS THIS NOT ENOUGH…WHY DID THIS MAN HAVE TO PUBLICLY DEGRADE TYLER PERRY LIKE THIS, WHY NOT A CONFERENCE CALL OR A SIMPLE LETTER…THEN YOU GOTTT THESE OTHER MALE SLAVES ON HERE, “YEAH RIGHT SPIKEY, HE IS COONERY” AND THEY FEEL JUSTIFIED WITH IT…JST SO OTHER MEN CAN SAY YEAH MAN YOU RIGHT, TYLER IS FOR WOMEN, BUT AS I HAVE AFOREMENTIONED MUTHAFUKAZ…OUR RACE AND COMMUNITY IS ONLY AS STRONG AS OUR WOMEN CUZ THEY BORE YALL SORRY A.SSES…IF TYLER BRINGS WOMEN BACK TO STABILITY AND CREATES A MESSAGE THAT THEY CAN RELATE TO, AND USE AS A MECHANISM TO HEAL FROM PROBLEMS IN THEIR LIVES, WILL THEIR SONS NOT BENEFIT…ARE WE NOT THE SON’S OF THESE BLACK WOMEN, I KNOW THAT I AM…BUT I FORGET, HALF OF US A HALF PUERTO RICAN, HALF SPANISH, HALF WHITE AND HALF A.SSHOLE TO REALIZE THIS TO KNOW THIS…MUTHAFUKA JUST CUZ YOU DON’T KNOW YOUR YOUR FATHER DOES NOT MAKE YOU HALF ANYTHING…YALL MUTHAFUKAS STARTING TO EMBARRASS ME AND I’M ABOUT START ME AN ORGANIZATION…CUZ THIS DUMB S**T DON’T MAKE NO SENSE DAWG…ALL YALL MUTHUFUKAS DO IS COMPLAIN AND HATE, WHEN HAVE YOU LAST UPLIFTED A FELLOW BLACK, MALE AND FEMALE…THE “IF IT DON’T AFFECT ME, IT DON’T REALLY MATTER” AND “DO YOU” SYNDROMES…THIS SH.IT IS RANK AND THIS IS A SLAVE MENTALITY IF NO ONE HAS EVER BROKEN IT DOWN TO YOUR WORTHLESS A.SS…JUST ON EARTH DRANKING UP ALL THE MUTHUFUKIN COGNAC N SH,ITT…FILLING ALL THE BLAK WOMEN PUSSIES UP WITH HIV CUZ THEY DON’T LIKE NO STR8 FORWARD NICCA, THEY WANT DAT GOOD GOOD THUGG LOVE…DAT JAIL BATE, THEM NICCAS DAT BE INTO DAT HOTT GOOD GOOD GROUP S**TT, TAKING THAT E AND WEED…YOU SEE, LET ME STOP, WE GOT TOO MANY SECRETS IN OUR CULTURE YO’….BUT YOU KNOW WHAT WE DON’T EVEN CARE TO INVESTIGATE SHI.IT EVEN THE ONES THAT DON’T UNDERSTAND WHAT I’M SAYING…BUT SOME OF YALL KNOW CUZ THIS IS WHAT YALL DO…TRAVELING FROM D.C, TO NY, TO ATLANTA, TO DETROIT, TO THE MUTHAFUKIN BAY AREA OH DID I FORGET CAROLINA…PEOPLE A WORD OF ADVICE OFF TOPIC, DON’T FUK WITH NO UNSETTLE SPIRIT…IF SOMEONE IS ALWAYS ON THE GO, GOTTA SEE THIS, GOTTA DO THAT, GOTTA HAVE THIS, DON’T FUK WITH HIM/HER….THEY WILL DO ANYTHING, SAY ANYTHING AND FUK ANYTHING, THAT IS AN UNSETTLE SPIRIT AND IT’S ABSENCE FROM THIS WORLD IS NIGH….

To Add: If one is not passionate enough to bring life and love to our culture, then that individual should not be venomous in sharing hate and death into our existence.

People do not understand that when God created Man, he made us in his image….you curse US (Other Blacks: other men, children and women) why, because we were the first and orginal, everything else is a mutation of the black man, that’s why fear is prevalent. Have you ever heard the sound of a strong Black African’s voice…If you listen to the rumble of it, it is deep, you hear all flavours of emotion…love, hate life and death…we have become too westernized, which is technologically waterdowned, and desensitized to our own originality….we must understand that their is fear, when it comes to the Black Man…intimidation…but when something intimidates you, WHAT DO YOU DO?? YOU TRY TO KILL IT OFF RIGHT…WELL WHAT MORE WOULD THOSE IN WHICH WE INTIMIDATE DO??

Spike’s movies are so deep I miss alot of it’s meaning. I’d rather see Tyler Perry making money byand putting Black folks to work than white folks painting their faces and deplicting Black people and making money. Spike overstepped his boundries on this one. He should of taken that to Tyler Perry and not let the white man know we are DIVIDED and pulling each other down. Spike is just jealous.

WELL I LUV ME SOME SPIKE LEE MOVIES AND IT’S GOOD THAT YOU ACTUALLY HAVE 2 PAY ATTENTION TO GET IT SOMETIMES.IT TOOK ME A MINUTE 2 GET USE 2 TYLER PERRY BUT I AGREE LMAO IN THE MOVIES SOME OF THEM DO BE OVERREACTIN BUT THE PLAYS BE GOOD

AMEN TO THIS ARTICLE. He’s doing something positive! We can add another knotch to belt of BLACK PEOPLE TO BE PROUD OF. Hell, we see enough negativity on TV. Let’s be more positive people. PERIOD! It’s just wonderful… From Dr. King, Jr. to Mr. Shawn Carter… The women as well. Like McD’s – I’m loving it!

This is a very good article. About time BP posted one that made sense. I would love to read the professor’s book when it comes out.

I dont know what Spike’s said about Perry. All I know is I cant stand him (Perry). I think he’s a girly-man and caters to women. But not mad at him for making a helluva lot of money! Get what you can get now Perry. Eventually it’ll be over and they’ll be on someone elses nuts!

(P.S. I do believe the “coonery” adjective fits that Perry TV sitcom. But the thing is, there ARE some people like that around. Weird thing about stereo types. Uusually SOME level of truth to them)

OK…. thats my 2 cents (lol)

looks like bafoonery to me. that house of pain show looks like a real life version of the simpsons. i watched 10 min of 1 show an felt stupid for wasting my time. i guess the kids like it like i used to like the simpsons

Why do we have to have Black on Black hate. Spike Lee had his era let Tyler Perry do what best for him. Why not put 2 great minds together and produce something that is positive instead of making stupid comments aout the other.

WELL U KNOW I POST ON ONE ARTICLE BEFORE..

I THINK THIS IS THE CASE OF

W.E.B. DuBois VS. BOOKER T. WASHINGTON

SO BP… PICK YOUR BATTLE

Yes. Black people are like crabs in a jar. Always trying to pull each other down. This sadly will NEVER change. I think Spike is jealous of Tyler’s success. Spike has been lame and nobody has been listening to his black man plight rants for sometime now. Tyler is a very positive guy. He does the Madea in fun but he is trying to give a message at the same time for the ignorant black people that act that way.

I think that blacks need to focus on uplifting each other rather than tear down. Now if I would be with Spike if he was talking about the wack ass rappers like lil wayne.lol

I’m not going to lie to you guys. Spike lee movies are so boring to me. The only movies of his I like is Inside man, Malcolm X,and Miracle at St.Anna. I respect Tyler Perry and all but the only time I would go to a theatre and see his film is if I was on a date and the you know women want to go and see it. If God bless me to get into the film industry then I want to make films that are entertaining I don’t want to make a movie that will show the how other cultures the how the black race is. If they want to know about the black race then it will be better for them to get to know us personally,they don’t have to spend $8 bucks to see a movie about it. Why can’t these black filmmakers do something like transformers or something.Thats why hollywood wont allow black directors direct major budget films because most black directors are stuck on those boyz n tha hood type of movies. Right now I’m currently writing a script for a Horror film and hopefully I can get it produced once its finished.

spike lee needs to hush. he has made some decent films but some of his s**t can be considered out there- “do the right thing”. what was the point of that movie. the character he played didnt show the ideal black man. tyler perry is giving the audience what they want and need- spike lee has done that as well. but why be cast stones at tyler perry. and i know at leats three women that remind me of madea. tyler perry’s movies are like therapy. they have helped me in my situations. you laugh and learn at the same time….

tyleer perry is popular because he attracts the ignorant and senseless. cant stand that meet the browns and most of the medea movies. its all slap stick ni**a jokes. all its doing is exploiting the culture like the culture has been being exploited. it is what it is. i would rather see a spike lee joint due to the message that is being presented and the art that is being displayed with that camera

no need to try to defend the man…an opinion is just that. Art is about perception. I feel Tyler Perry is the worse thing to black film since blaxploitation…but that is my opinion. I get sick everytime I hear of another movie coming out. His movies are beneath whale $hit. Just my opinion. Anyone that gets upset about an opinion and write an article trying to oppose an opinion needs to get a life.

I’ve said this before. Spike Lee WOULD NOT have said these things about Tyler Perry if Tyler was a struggling actor/director. But mow that TP is rich and famous, Mr. Lee feels the need to “Pull another crab back into the bucket.”

WHO CARES THAT HE IS MAKING MONEY!!!!! BABY KILLERS MAKE MONEY DOES THAT NEGATE THEIR WRONGNESS?
People miss the point! In the last article about this, Tyler says “I BAIT people in and then talk about things of importance” PEOPLE PLEASE do you really think GOD needs bait!!!!!!!!!! The logic behind his method is disturbing. He’s one of the people who, rather directly intentional or unintentionally, encourages HOMOSEXUALITY!!!!!! This man’s character COULD BE a funny grandfather, HE AINT EVEN THAT FUNNY as Media! DON’T BE FOOLED BY THE DOLLAS! A HE/SHE is not a BLACK ROLE MODEL! Spike Lee could careless bout this mans money fools! Lee is RICH his damn self! This is about boofenery!

This writer said, “hip hop culture has a dramatic influence on the young minds” The devils job in heaven before his fall was MUSIC!

Our kids and ADULTS minds are being altered by music and TV. He is using it against us. Watch what you listen to, what you watch, and what you say!

Im still down with spike, although tyler perry has made some good movies that every one can relate to, but Im still not too fond of house of pain and or that brown coon, who i think is a straight buffoon.

It is AMAZING how hypocritical we(black people) are. As we go about our daily lives, PLEASE tell me that you don’t see people that are the same as the characters that are portrayed in each and every one of Tyler’s films or sitcom episodes. These characters represent what our lives are REALLY like, the issues we REALLY deal with within our families and outside relationships. A lot of us are not living the Huxtable life, nor are we Buppies. We are REAL PEOPLE living REAL SITUATIONS. Tyler Perry’s films and shows are there to let us know that we are not alone in whatever we are dealing with and that there actually is solution. ALL of his work delivers a message, encouragement, and that slight lining of humor that helps us get through it all.

So, Spike Lee, and the few other people that are “hating” on Tyler Perry….LOOK IN THE MIRROR, LOOK AT YOUR CHILDHOOD, LOOK AT YOU BEFORE THE MONEY AND FAME……These are OUR stories, OUR lives, OUR realities.

And on the flip…..LOOK AT HIS BOX OFFICE NUMBERS!!!!! We can relate and we relate so much that we, common people, celebrities, and the such come out in throngs and SUPPORT what we know as OUR REALITY!!!!!

So, to sum this up……….DON’T HATE………..CONGRATULATE!!!!

When White people criticize each other do Black, or White people for that matter say “this is White on White hating!” NO! A Black man can disagree with a Black man. People its having YOUR own opinion!

here are three reasons why spike lee is right about tyler perry being ‘coonish’:

1) madea
2) the coonery of his shows

(which make up the BULK of his money making machine)

3) see reasons #1 and #2

this has NOTHING to do with ‘hatin’ or ‘crabs in a barrell’, which tyler defenders love to say. its about his MASS MEDIA appeal, which is predicated on ‘madea’ and the two utterly coonish shows he has.

amazingly, because he’s ‘black woman friendly’, he gives messages via coonish vehicles. the same women (and men who like to get next to the women) who defend tyler perry DOG the equally coonish ‘rap/hip hop’ lyrics and perveyors of such garbage.

coonery is coonery…just because one says ‘the black woman is right all the time and any problems in the black community are the black man’s fault’ and the other says ‘i beat that bytch and i makes money’ doesnt NEGATE the coonery.

alas, i think a LOT of this is younger folks for the most part have NO IDEA who spike lee is, beyond new york knicks games. however, he went into films and showed an array of black folks, and the issues between classes and men/women. he didnt ‘take a side’, he was artful and deep.

as such, the young really only ‘know’ tyler perry. i dont dislike tyler, but his mass media appeal is based upon coonery. him making money doesnt make it right, and doesnt make folks who call out that coonery ‘haters’.

I AM GOING TO MAKE THIS REAL EASY FOR EVERYONE….IF YOU LIKE IT THEN WATCH IT…AND IF YOU DON’T LIKE IT THEN DON’T WATCH IT… IT’S THAT SIMPLE !!!!!

IF EVERYONE DID EVERYTHING THE SAME WHAT KIND OF WORLD WOULD THIS BE??? THINK ABOUT IT.SPIKE HAS DONE THIS BEFORE..THIS IS NOT A FIRST. BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY WE AS A PEOPLE MAKE A CHOICE NOT SPIKE OR ANYONE ELSE… WE MAKE A CHOICE FOR OURSELVES…AND THE BOX OFFICE NUMBER’S DON’T LIE!!!!

@alwaysadiva3-The assumption is that ALL Black people grew up poor is very apparent in your statement. That is not the case. These are not “our” stories, these are stories!
How many prostitutes do you know who get saved by a man and lives happily ever after?

How man HE/SHE grandmothers do you know?

Some of the stories resonate the truth for ALL races but because it’s a Black face telling the story (Why did I get Married) suddenly it’s a “Black situation” how many Black people you know going to cabins in Colorado?

They both have great movies and no one is forcing anyone to watch their flms, its all about choice. If you disagree with Tyler, okay but don’t be so critical. Just by Lee’s comment he has caused a divide, if anything, he should give Tyler encouragement and support. Yes, Tylers film sometimes can be a little out there, I agree, but they make you laugh, cry and everything in between, and to tie it all off, he incorporates God into his movies and a message. I just really think Lee has a problem sharing the glory…doesn’t make sense ..

Most of Spike Lee’s movies are garbage anyway. I was going to take my Grandfather to see that WW2 movie of his since my Grandpa was in Italy, but I couldn’t because the theaters didn’t play it and for good reason. He pissed off a whole country, Italy, by his puffed up attempt to change history. It’s funny that Steven Spielburg made a historical accurate movie “Amistad” which was better than anything Spike Lee ever did. Tyler Perry always comes out with good movies and as a white man I am not even reminded of race when I see them. Spike Lee is what is wrong with this country.

I BELIEVE IN SOME WAY WE ALL ARE SEEING AND SAYING THE SAME THING… I AM JUST HAPPY TO SEE THAT WE HAVE OUR OWN DOING THEIR OWN IN HOLLYWOOD… WE ARE ON OUR WAY…I JUST HOPE WE DON’T TURN THE “DREAM” INTO A NIGHTMARE.

WOW@ BLACKDIAMOND184…REALLY??? HE IS WHAT’S WRONG WITH THIS COUNTRY??? LMAO & SMH…HE TRIED TO CHANGED HISTORY…. WOW… THAT’S LIKE THE POT CALLING THE KETTLE WHITE.

@blackdiamond184 typical white devil.. a black man directs movies like malcolm x he or miracle at st. ann this devil does not like cause it shows strong black men…he wants you black to think your men are weak like in roots so he can steal your affection…thank allah for brother like spike and as far as tyler perry any man who admits to being with another man proves this is a sick twisted negro poising as a black man…i guess america found it new porch monkey all star member the clarence thomas of hollywood..

I have watched most of Perry’s movies and I laugh more at the sounds my dryer makes. Maybe it’s because I don’t like slapsitck humor. Who knows? I can say that it’s good that a black man (Perry) is doing his thing and doing it better than many whites but I don’t think he’s particularly funny or interested in helping his people. I agree with Spike.

well…

i see that Black media is guilty as well as the white media in stirring up shyt when shyt is not there…

congratulation, you have made it to the big top…

You know what I find so funny?!? The fact that some of you are acting like what Tyler Perry is doing has NEVER been done before. Keenen Ivory Wayans was the Producer & Director of In Living Color and we saw Jamie Fox (IN DRAG) dressed as “Wanda” week after week. Also Martin Lawrence of Martin dressed (IN DRAG) as “Sheneneh Jenkins” and also “Mrs. Payne” and we also had Eddie Murphy do his numerous characters on The Klumps. Most people have watched these shows and laughed hysterically at these characters but now that TP has reached this PINNACLE OF SUCCESS here comes the group of naysayers and negative individuals (smh). Don’t get me wrong, I can respect if that is what “YOU” do not like but to take it to the extreme of calling him a coon or bafoon…you might as well turn off your televisions because this brand of comedy is EVERYWHERE! Nonetheless, I am sure he appreciates that so many of you give a damn…you probably just added a 1/2 million to his movie sales. I am sure he thanks you for the controversy :) ! LMAO!!!

first of all what? Spike Lee need to sit down somewhere because Tyler Perry movies are better and there funny spike Lee seems to be a little bit Jealous of Tyler Perry and he is making good money spike Lee movies don’t make no sense and the stupid and boring instead of hating on the brother he should be showing congrats to him it just stupid i thought spike lee was better then that and for his people he acting like one of the hating brothers in his own movies!

actually, to blackdiamond, your feelings/impressions of spike lee’s films being ‘garbage’ are you right.

but where is he ‘re-writing history’? black soldiers DID fight in italy, and in fact, for the most part were not allowed to take part in the normandy landing (except for some balloon experts). your grandfather can get pissed all he wants, you and he are QUITE MISTAKEN. spike is doing no more ‘re-writing of history’ than any other war movie that had FICTIONAL or SEMI-FICTIONAL story lines.

if the entire country of italy is ‘pissed off’, then the whole country of italy has issues. but of course, the ‘whole country of italy’ isn’t pissed off, is it?

tyler perry makes movies that put down black men, and if you as a white man don’t see it, cool. but black men dressing in drag, constantly seen as buffoons and the alleged ‘real problem’ in black relationships IS offensive ot many black folks.

now, if you’re here to kiss up to black women, good job. but folks aint gonna let your azzkissing cloud the REAL story.

spike lee is NOT what’s wrong with this country…that’s the most moronic statement i’ve seen on bp. neither is tyler perry.

grow up, blackdiamond…and learn how to kiss azz a bit better.

tonya, shamel:

just as you have a right to defend tyler, spike has a right to comment on them.

neither of the writers/directors/actor’s movies are INHERENTLY better or worse. its YOUR OPINION, just like its MY OPINION (and many other’s opinions) that tyler perry is best known for being a drag queen and having coonish movies.

yes, the wayans and other blacks have dressed up in drag, but they didnt base THEIR ENTIRE CAREERS on dressing in drag. they moved BEYOND it.

and that’s what i would ask tyler…move beyond madea. he’s now famous, and he can do much more. folks say his plays are allegedly good…put THEM in the mainstream.

and stop blaming black men for black relationship problems.

tyler aint a bad person, he just is milking the very things that have made him popular. time for him to do more. just like danny glover…he didnt like ‘lethal weapon’ movies or ‘operation dumbo’, but he used the money and power from those movies to make / write/ produce BETTER movies.

smack_u_silly, I like your thinking. I agree with you and can APPRECIATE that you are non-bias in your comments. To be honest I do NOT like his television sitcoms…they are not funny to me in the least bit. However, to each his/her own. In my humble opinion, I think Tyler is trying to branch away from Madea but so much of his fan base are loyal Madea fans (which is a substantial portion of his revenue). I’ve heard him speak in interviews discussing how he wants this character DEAD because it is too much work and effort on his part to go into wardrobe, makeup & aesthetics (LOL)! I like Spike Lee and ABSOLUTELY LOVED School Dayze (I hope a MUCH NEEDED remake is done if this movie). However, I just wished that Lee could have “tabled” this discussion for a more appropiate venue. I ain’t mad at him for disagreeing but don’t put the brotha on blast. Call him privately and hash things out. Heck they both are extremely talented they could be running Hollywood.

this is so silly. i feel like this, do what makes you feel happy. if you enjoy tyler perry then by all means support him don’t stop watching his movies, plays, sitcoms etc based on some people’s opinion. be your own person. sames goes for spike lee. i love me some tyler perry. can’t wait until the next movie. why is everybody trying their best to throw tyler perry under the bus. when he make’s his movies it’s not coming out of our pockets and we don’t have to support his work. stop worrying about things you have no control over. people are on downing tyler and he’s laughing all the way to the bank. grow up

Me personally cant find anything entertaining in a Tyler Perry movie. Spike Lee on the other hand I can watch on a daily basis.I dont know of any Tyler Perry movie that comes close to Malcolm X.Those Madea Movies are corny and not funny to me at all.I guess me being a black male living in the inner city can relate more to Spike Lee. I think its an audience out there for both of them.For me I am and always will be a Spike Lee fan. Shut out to John Singleton.

I’m a great fan of both Lee and Perry. Although Lee’s criticism of Perry may seem legit on the surface of things, I feel that, as usual, the backgrounds of these to giant talents are different enough to cause a difference in perspective. Malcolm X said, “revolution… By any means necessary.!” Tyler has taken this expedient means of doing things that Lee could not do with his extreme “righteous black man “level of integrity, although Perry has has a high level of integrity as well.

For one thing, Perry not only was accepted in Hollywood as an artist, but made demands that were met in keeping the integrity of his work in tact, creating more roles for black actors, old and new, (Lee put a lot of new talent out front as well), building a studio and creating more jobs for blacks in the Atlanta area, etc.

Each man is a giant in his arena, I can understand Lee’s perspective, but he comes from a different school of thought that Perry, kind of like my generation and younger generations when we look at the “black” issue. All in all, great they’re getting the publicity, sad that they’re even having this issue. I think they both should just man up and realize, sometimes everyone’s way is the right way.

shamel:

that’s all i’m saying. IF tyler is trying to get away from madea, MORE POWER TO HIM. there’s a time when he has to stop pandering to the lowest common denomninator and start having more realistic characters, events, items. from what i hear, his PLAYS tend to do this. for spike, he’s ALWAYS been outspoken, and perhaps he’s trying, in his way, to get tyler beyond slapstick and drag queen schtick.

this is no different from bob dylan telling the beatles in late 1964/early 1965 ‘your music sounds good, but you’re not saying anything’. the paul mccartney and john lennon were hurt, but appreciative, and they dedicated their talents to writing MUCH better music, starting in 1965 (their stuff before 1965 was fluff). that’s why they’re hailed as the greatest rock band ever.

hopefully, tyler will look at spike’s comments as a challenge to actually DO BETTER.

Tyler Perry is no different than good times. That sorry sitcom he produces, meet the browns and that other garbage like program on tbs depicts black male role models as buffoons. If you notice most of all of his movies portrays black males as cheaters,hustlers,drug dealers. He did one decent movie on the struggles of an male african american parent. Im sorry your dad was an a*****e to you growing tyler, so was my dad. But im not going to spend the rest of my life degrading black men or putting my dad on blast to profit off of it. Besides he likes dressing up like madea a little too much for taste. Yes, what we need more black men in drag.

My God! Can we have some love and peace among ourselves? Tyler Perry’s fan base will speak for itself. Why would Spike Lee attack Tyler Perry in public? Why not go to your brother if you you have a disagreement with something he’s doing? Better yet, mind your own business and if you’re not on the top at this time, praise the brother that is! We should be concerned about more important things. Truthfully, I’m tired of all this mess!

yotta, it’s more then tyler simply ‘making his money’. this short sighted mentality is what hampers blacks in hollywood to this day.

do you know who step n fetchit was? he was a TOP earnings drawer (black or white) for a ten year period 1932-41. his character was that of an idiotic, shuffly, mumbling and submissive black man. he was getting PAID back in the day…$300,000 a year (equivalent to $5 million in today’s dollars) to do the same idiocy each film.

though he was getting paid, the effect was:

1) blacks were limited to subservient roles 99% of the time;
2) he spawned imitators like ‘sleep n eat’, who was rumored by the studio to have said he ENJOYED the demeaning roles, as long as he had three square meals and a place to sleep.

this HAMPERED black actors/writers.

so, in a way, coonish behavior DOES take money out of the pockets of aspiring black actors/actresses and writers. next time they pitch an idea, or go for an acting job, they’re likely to get a ‘can you do a madea’? can you do a roll-y eyed fat black person thing?

think long term for a change…i BET you dont like the misogynistic lyrics of rap that put black women down, do you? but, hey, they’re ‘laughing their azzes to the bank’, so you and other black women just need to keep quiet, right?

WHY DO NEGROS HAVE TO ALWAYS CRITICIZE EACHOTHER…YOU DONT SEE CLINT EASTWOOD HATING ON TOM HANKS. WHY, BECAUSE THEY ARE TWO WHTITE MEN MAKING THAT MONEY!!! IT DOESNT MAKE SENSE TO PUT DOWN YOUR OWN KIND FOR DOING WHAT HIS HEART DESIRES AND FOLLOWING HIS DREAMS. WHY SHOULD WE WANT TO CONTINUE DOING THE SAME THINGS AS THE OTHER PERSON. WHAT FUN IS THAT?? I LIKE DIFFERENT FLAVAS JUST THE SAME AS A DIFFERENT STYLE OR DIFFERENT MOTIVES. IT’S FUNNY TO ME BECAUSE INSTEAD OF BEING A BLACK PERSON WHO PORTRAYS HIMSELF TO INSPIRE OTHER BLACK PEOPLE..WHY MAKE YOURSELF LOOK STUPID BY GOING AFTER ANOTHER BLACK PERSON AND QUESTIONING HIS ABILITIES. THIS IS JUST STUPID. ONE REASON BLACK PEOPLE CANT REALLY GET AHEAD BECAUSE WE DONT WANT TO SEE THE NEXT PERSON DOING BETTER OR MAKING MORE MONEY THAN THE OTHER. CAUCASIONS, ASIANS, INDIANS, ETC. ALL STICK TOGETHER…MAYBE WE SHOULD TRY THAT!!!!

Thank you also spike lee for calling him out. Youve called out rappers, and others who take advantage of some the naive individuals in our culture.

I wouldnt be surprised to see tyler in blackface if tbs told him to do it.
Just because he is making money, doesnt make it right.

Besides his material is no better than some of the 8th grade drama material at my sons school. Please black people wake up.

what! f**k a tyler perry…spike lee is straight wit me for now

why is that we as black ppl always have to criticize one another, spike lee look at the movies you made, jungle fever, dat other movies about light skin verses dark skin come on now….tyler movies are about ppl lives and so was yours give him a break its bad enuff when white ppl step on your toes cuz they act like their life is perfect but its not they deal with everyday life just like we do….but for you a man of statue to put another brother down like that, and its not even negative its positive….

It NEVER ceases to amaze me that when someone who has the RIGHT to tell the truth about our brothers does…those same brothers spoken of get angry. = Not shocking to me. I think actually, Tyler Perry give us (BLACK PEOPLE) men in particularly the opportunity to see ourselves. (Women as well) I don’t think there’s ANYTHING wrong with that! I think it’s just simply a matter of do YOU LOVE who YOU are and where YOU come from? Spike Lee acts like as a people that some of the stuff Tyler present sis not real…but, it is! We all know it which is why when we go to see his movies we laugh. (Cool) I LOVE Tyler Perry’s stuff for the most part and occassionally, there are some things I don’t really care for. But, they are HIS movies! Many people hated Spike Lee when he first started making movies! He was like the Farrakahan of the Century! (LOL) So, I think he needs to stop it with that hater comments on Tyler Perry because he has the right just like SPIKE does…to make HIS movies what he desires them to be! Personally, I think he’s hating and stirring up controversy because, there isn’t much talk about him anymore. Bwahahaha! Lol…seriously, cut it out Spike! You know Tyler Perry is the man now! Whoever doesn’t like it? = Kick Rocks!!!! Lol….he’s still getting paid! And in the infamous words of one of the usernames uptop Spike shuddup before I SMACK_U_SILLY lol..

anyone on her want to talk about Teyler if this man was to call you right now to do a film the ones that put him down you will be the FIRST ONE TO SAY YES I WILL DO THE MOVIE WHERE DO I SIGN!

Wow, @ some of the comments posted below….smh now why weren’t ANY of you guys fontin BS BEFORE Spike Lee huh? Lol….

spike lee said what he did cause he is not a right man and to get some attention.all he is a hater hating on tyler’s hustle is just bicth assness.point blank

I went in the Marines in 1979. We (black males ) fought so hard to set an example, to do away with the stereo typical black male. Now it is 2009 and here is a black man setting everything we fought for back over thirty years. Wow, and people can’t understand that this type of behavior is unexceptable. And to exploit this show that people rather see blacks in this position. This is the way Tyler makes his money. I have never watched any of his movies, someone told me to. But I can not pull myself to watch a black man act like a black female. I think it is degradeing and distasteful.

I totally agree with the comments that smack_u_silly said. Tyler Perry will always be remember for being Madea. Even when he does other movies the first thing they going to remember him as Madea. He has made a career out of that. He has not diversify his game yet like Spike Lee has. Personally most of Tyler Perry’s movies contribute to alot of black men bashing. I really don’t care for any of his movies and I don’t really like them. Spike Lee is not a hater hes trying to give an outside of the box perspective in which alot of “mentally blind” african americans don’t want to see that they’re comfortable in how things are protrayed. Yes Tyler Perry is talented and brilliant. However,im a big Spike Lee and John Singleton fan. They are very diverse as far as creativity and I relate more to them. Tyler Perry is good and his movies are funny and has a message in them but,i just don’t feel his movies like that because I can’t relate to them. I’m not a hater im just speaking the truth.

I feel you totally Naz001…I remember watching a solder story back in the days, and agreeing with why the Capt was so harsh on his solders. He fought hard to downplay the image, of that always joking-loud mouth-country bumkin image. Chris Rock joked, that if you want to hide something from niggas hide it in the books. Its sad that just because there are indeed loud mouth ignorent people in our community, we feel the need to celebrate them. Every race has niggas, whites have poor white trash, jews have bernny madoff etc. But blacks are the only ones constantly rewarded for acting ignorent and loud. The people on here defending Tyler Perry, should really do research key word “research!” on why he’s disliked. Go watch classified x on youtube. A people that’re driven by emotion, within logic, are doomed to fail. We’ve gone backwards in hollywood, and in our communities, because of people like tyler perry. If you roll a pile of crap in pages from the bible, does that make the crap christianly in its teaches?

Will this stop Tyler from making money, NO! Any of us would do a movie to make the money, but yes,Tyler Perry’s character MADEA is “coonery” and for the rest who do not think so… look at the way we are depicted by other blacks and whites now that MADEA has hit the scene. Proper English at proper times was already reduced to slang yet now it has been even more reduced by the made up FOOLISHNESS of these characters. It has been hard for many black actors/actresses to move from the stereotypical roles of what white america sees as our urban/hood lifestyles and now their work is being set back. Now Tyler is not the only one because VH1 and the 5 o’clock makes fools out of us daily. And now this is a personal comment to Mr_Magnificent006- Spike Lee needs no attention, check his Resume, and he’s speaking the truth, check the stereotypes of you and your people… Expand your horizons

COME ON SPIKE BLACK PEOPLE LOVE SEEING HOW THEY ARE AT COOKOUTS AND FAMILY ISSUES TYLERS MOVIES ARE GREAT DONT HATE U MADE GOOD MOVIES TOO WHAT A TERRIBLE THING TO SAY………LOVE THAT BROTHER FOR THE MOVIES HE MADE JUST LIKE YOU MADE MOVIES………

Good day to all,

Something to think about. My beautifu black people. We can all have opinions about the likes and disikes of each other’s character, actions, lifestyle, and wa of thinking…But I believe that when we decide to voice our opinion, and speak out against our brothas and sistas…It sends a message about us… When we talk about the characters portrayed in movies, and hip hop (I mention these because, these are the most talked about), we miss the whole point behind the purpose of both…I believe that the way we go back and forth about what’s right and wrong about how we are portrayed is a reveal of a continued slave mentality…It keeps us divided…Keeps us thinking that their is a certain class of us that are more intelligent, more acceptble, more educated, or knowledgable than the other..We have to be conscious of that….The characters we see in Tyler Perry’s movies, we have seen in our lives, or our friend’s lives. By disagreeing with these characters, and how they are portrayed, are the brothas and sistas that may be that way not accepted in our hearts? If we have a family member or a loved one that is that way…Would we be ashamed, and not love them, and try to hide tem from society? If we are doing that, where do you think that way of thinking came from? How do you think, we became divided, and controlled in the first place to be enslaved? I was shocked, and hurt to see that Spike Lee would even air such an opinion about Tyler Perry…When he seemed to have so much knowledge, and understanding of how we (as Black People are viewed). His movies did not at all have characters that protrayed Black women, and men the way he speaks about, and some were very controversial, and he was criticized the same way….I just do not understand….I think if we are truly concern about something that we are doing, when it comes to our culture, we should speak, and try to guide each other on a personal and private basis, and be mindful of what we speak out about when we speak of our brothas and sistas…Spike could have been a positive mentor, to Tyler…instead of voicing his disapproval of his work…He said what he said about Tyler’s work, but did he think about the message that he sent by doing so? He is proving, that the mind of enslavement is still being carried on….Its unfortunate….I love them both. They are excellent film makers, and both are legendary, and will never be forgotten…Just like with hip hop…We blame it for so much, but the fact is its our people voicing their need to be nutured and supported, and instead, we seperate ourselves from it, and do not even support what hip hop truly represent……US!!!We have to find a way to stop seperating ourselves from each other….We are a beautiful powerful force……Just think about it…..

b3 and isis:

white folks criticize each other all the time in the industry. as i said earlier, bob dylan told the beatles “you sound nice but your music isn’t saying anything’.

other folks artists dogged bob dylan for ‘selling out’ and ‘going electric’ in 1965.

why should black folks be consigned to quietly accepting what they don’t like?

i said it before, and i’ll say it again: many of the same sisters who are defending what spike/i/many brothers here say is ‘coonish presentation’ and ‘black men are the bad guys’ stuff that tyler presents are the SAME ONES who complain about black women being portrayed badly in the music industry by the cretins who rap.

there is NO DIFFERENCE, except that tyler’s movies are even more ‘mass appeal’ than rap.

you can’t defend one and assail the other.

Spike has an opinion…….as he has always! I love the brother. Perry respect and loves Spike……….Like he has always showed us in his movie (respecting and loving black people) I say don’t fall for bull. Both men are Gaints so come on ya’ll let us not think like ants……….

once again people we miss the point……why criticize someones else talent, until we all come to realize that whatever we are good at is a gift, given at birth and manifested through the choices we made in life….just because someone is serving bread with cheese should not mean it cant be accepted at a meat market…..a divided house can not stand….instead of hating on someone else genus why not collaborate, swallows one’s pride and unify the very thing that was divinely given to the both of you.

The brothers should not get into fighting over the differences of how they present their talents. They both are accomplished and successful. Let’s not fall into the trap set for us more than 400 years ago, divide and conquer. Both contribute much to the entertainment of African Americans and more. If not for the internet and the ability to sell ads to users, blogs would not exist and neither of these opinions would have made it beyond their close friends so why feed into a system that only highlights the most controversial and strives to keep the mud slinging. Come to together and be more powerful than anyone could have ever imagined. That would be great.

Spike Lee vs. Tyler Perry is very sad, but it serves to reminds us as Black People that we have a very serious “Crabs In A Barrel Syndrome” problem. As we pull each other down, all of the other ethnic groups in this country are just watching, and taking little steps upward, to replace our achievements over the years.

MAN THIS IS DEEP AN I AGREE

Spike Lee has thrown down the gauntlet. I give Tyler big props for being a shrewd businessman for recognizing a formula and vehicle to expand beyond the chittlin circuit play houses. But can Tyler Perry move beyond the matriarchal, women as victims, tear jerking, happy ending coonery themed films; or, with all his resources is he capable of writing, directing or perhaps just producing a movie outside of his comfort zone?

Black folk went in droves to see The Color Purple ($98,467,863) but couldn’t convince your white colleagues to support Do The Right Thing ($27,545,445.) Even more so, how could Amistad ($44,229,441) be so close to Malcolm “X” ($48,169,910) in box office gross? What does it say when other races value and support their own interpretations of black experiences and most blacks double down at the box office on mainstream films?

On the flip side, if film is art, no way Madea Goes to Jail ($90,508,336) comes close to Inside Man ($88,513,495), but black folk choose to laugh rather than watch an Oscar winning black actor in a suspenseful action film. Incidentally, the highest grossing film directed by an African-American is Scary Movie ( $157,019,771,) directed by Keneen Ivory Wayans.

Spike Lee comments are also directed at the black movie going public. Too often we spend more money on mainstream movies compared to black directed /independent film, and when we do buy black at the box office, more often than not it’s the coonery and buffoonery we prefer. To which we always hear the common utterance, “I spend my money the way I want!” But that is another story.

folks, PLEASE STOP BRINGING UP “DIVIDE AND CONQUER”.

400 years ago, white folks were JUST starting the slave trade; they didnt say ‘lets divide the africans and conquer them’.

they said ‘lets find some slaves at the lowest cost to us…trade with the africans that give us the lowest cost, and be done with it’

divide and conquer wasnt something designed by white folks for black folks. its been around FOREVER. sun tzu wrote about it 500b.c, or 2,500 years ago IN CHINA.

spike criticizing tyler is NOT some ‘white man’s plan to destroy black folks’.

white folks like what makes money…PERIOD. no different from spike or tyler.

white folks criticize each other in the press. its NOT an exclusive ‘black thing’.

damn, these crude, high school attempts to ‘shame’ folks into thinking like you wont work.

spike had a right to call tyler’s movie ‘coonish’ if THAT’S how he saw it. others here feel the same way. you can’t ‘shame’ anyone into silence, so why try.

I can’t believe y’all are saying that. If you think the Madea character is coonish, you’re entitled to that. The same goes for Deacon Brown and Mr. Payne. Mr. Perry is balanced and quite frankly, he in my opinion has’nt made a bad movie yet. He even got me to watch his plays. I used to think that to watch a play on video was the dumbest thing, but once again quality trumps opinions. What about Daddy’s Little Girls, Why Did I Get Married, and The Family That Preys just as good as if not better than anything Spike has made. As for coonery What about those Nike Aiir Jordan Mars Blackmon commercials “do you know”, “do you know”, “do you know.” Stop hatin and check to see if your “Ghetto Pass” is expired.

LOL NEWSONE makes its living from COONERY, so it’s no surprise that they bring some bogus money guru on here to defend Tyler Perry’s exploitations.
Yes Tyler Perry IS making alot of money with his formula. I guess to some that’s all that counts. Spike Lee gave his honest opinion on it, I happen to agree. That’s not “hating” (a terrible term) that’s just calling crap crap when you see it. Just because someone is Black doesn’t give them a pass on criticism from Black people. That way of thinking is what has allowed the drop in quality of “our” music!

smurf, TO YOU those movies were as good or better than anything spike made.

a WHOLE LOT OF PEOPLE would disagree with you and call it what we feel it is…coonery and at best ‘fluff’.

you’re professed ‘disbelief’ ain’t gonna change any minds.

saying ‘stop hatin’ aint gonna change any minds.

‘ghetto pass’? wtf?

as uhh_what said, to some people, merely making money is all that counts. i find it amazing, however, that those that are tyler apologists (in my opinion) don’t also:

1) apologize for step n fetchit;
2) misogynistic rap music;

what’s the difference? zipcoonery is zipcoonery.

I agree with smack_u & uhh_what. I think that there is a diversity in our community and all should be represented. But I believe we should be represented responsibly. Spike Lee has depicted some real and not so positive images of blacks in America, but it raised questions and had a purpose and a message.

Some of arguments that I have read are poor and unsupported. Seriously, Spike can make a million bad commercials and it will not compare to Madea or Meet the Browns. And the “Ghetto” pass statement is garbage. I don’t equate black people with “ghetto” if you do then that’s a big part of the problem.

I have patronized Tyler to support black cinema and there are times that I am disappointed by his over the top antics & negative cold depictions of black women.

I think there is a place for his movies, but I wish there were more images, more diverse images of blacks in the cinema to counterbalance what he is doing. I would be perfectly happy to never see a Madea movie again, so I make an active decision not to see them. Spike has a right to his opinion and he is not alone.

Spike Lee can say anything……because he has an opinion.He wont be the first person to call TP’s stuff coonery.Hes free to say so…Peeps mad because they think Spike should like it because TP is black.He just calls it like he sees it…The painful truth is TP’s movies are just more instances where black embarrassment passes for black entertainment .People,you are not “haters” because you don’t like something,and nobody has to like it just because TP is black.His fans would always differ but TP has the most marketable coonery right now.Not that Spike Lee hasn’t,but TP does,and we all know that!

3 reasons why spike lee was right

1. If a whit person had wrote these movies and television shows that tp does we would be all over them screaming racism and stereyotypes

2. The images that tp depicts in his shows and movies do affect how the other races see us. I have had successful white people ask me if the images that tp shows are realevant to me. if they are thinking that about me they are thinking that about u! how are we suppose to be successfull when are employers are thinking that way about us??

3. There are plenty of black embarrasment to around (have u seen bet lately) so for a succcessful film maker and director to just join the club and make us look bad is not a good thing! Spike lee was right!!!

man i say if spike lee thinks its all coonery he should make his version of what black people should be like on tv and make his own money over it. i can understand why tyler got mad because this dude was flat broke for a minute just writing plays that were playing at places nobody really goes to. he got big and made money because black people went out to see his plays and made him enough money to start making his own film production company and his own films. most of it came from black support and if spike lee wants to change the image come out with another movie or write a play or something. not that its on the same level but this sounds almost like the argument between soldier boy and ice t on whether soldier boy is messing up the rap game or not.

I think number 3 hit the nail on the head. Spike seems to think he is the almighty Guru of black film. Where Spike climbed mountains with a fork and a rope, Perry made a helicopter and whistled his way to the top. Spike started off with a decent childhood. Perry came from nothing, and look at all he has. I saw the interview and I did not know Perry had it like that. I bet Lee doesn’t and that is why he is so upset. I love the Madea movies, and the ones without her too. Blacks can be funny, serious, ignorant, intelligent, smart, dumb, educated, uneducated. We are not a monolithic block and come with a variety of mindsets. JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE.

Its something…How I read the responses to an opinion voiced….I think I enjoyed smack u the most….He feels so strongly opposing the idea of the effects of slavery in our everyday thinking as Black people that he is willing to somewhat insult those who think differently, which was exactly my point…The whole point (that was totally missed) was not about our ability to voice openly about how we feel….The question posed focusing on the purpose behind speaking out, and how it would uplift our people by doing so….As I spoke and others spoke about this, our views were viewed as “high school view points”, and an brief explanation as to how slavery began…But the point was much deeper than that, and so was the strategy to continue slavery….And by him disclosing that particular statement in regards….Let me know that, he could not disagree or have a difference in opinion without condemning the thoughts and opinions of others…Does that make his viewpoint more valid? Does that make what he says more influential? Differences in opinion can be expressed…But how can we come together and express them without condemning? Are we saying there isn’t a way? How do we utilize our differences in opinion to uplift us? Cause let’s face it, we can be compared to white people,and other races, but everyone knows that we (Black People) are not viewed the same….We all know that…Whatever white people say about each other, does not effect them the same….Even by the examples smack u gave….What happened to this group, and who remembers the name of the person who spoke? And what they said about the group was not as nearly harmful, and negative as what is being said to Tyer Perry… We are talking about two legendary…Brilliant film makers….Doing things that was not done…Creating new styles of cinema…..And even if it was a smaller scale…..The biggest question that still remains is what is the purpose? How will that help us? How would it help Spike Lee? How would it help Tyler Perry? We all have a voice…Its how we decide to use it that brings about positive change….This is not to provoke anyone to change their minds, but to think from a different perspective…..I just want us to think….

Matthew 24
1And Jesus went out, and departed from the temple: and his disciples came to him for to shew him the buildings of the temple.
2And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.
3And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?
((( The disciples understood that Jesus was talking about the Futrue the endtime which is what we seeing right now before our eyes if you do have eyes to understand whats going to happen)))
Matthew24:4-51
4And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
5For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
(((See what Jesus just said? He said watch out from those calling themselves Christian because they never keep the Ten commandment thats going to get you into the Kingdom of Heaven. Do you know when you go to chruch on Sunday, you worship Satan , not just that but you worship the Sun god.Do you know that Saturday the 7th day(Sabbath) is the True Worship day for Jesus?Then you have these fake Sunday Pastor lying to your face while taken your rent or bill money away before you go into the Lake of Fire. I kin you not , when you watch these fake SundayPastor out there or on T.V notice that they never open their bible to to show you, but lying to your face about everything that has nothing to do with the word of God. Then you have some fake Pastors out there too calling themselves Jesus on T.V. That what Jesus meant when He say watch out for those they say I am Christ. But I will show you more from the bible. Just watch out for those fake pastors that will Jesus you to death and they never tell you the true from the bible. But they rather tell yous lies)))
Matthew24:6-51
6And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.
7For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.
8All these are the beginning of sorrows.
((( Now you see the weak small Counties like North Korea noe got nukes and talking about boming the U.S and Iran Got some big stuff. And all these small countise raising up big with firing arms and talkinf big stuff.. Then you have this swine ful out there which came from the goverment ad planng one take you to jail because you wont take the H1N1 shots.. You know the people who made the H1N1 wont even take the shot. That sould told you some right there. It going to get worster that that before the Great Tribulation)))
Matthew24:9-51
9Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name’s sake.
10And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.
((( Now watch when you tell somebody who being going to church on Sunday and you Know that Sabbath which is Saturday is the 7th on the week , and a true worship day. That Sunday going Church boy or girl will try they best to kill you or make you look bad.))))
Matthew24:11-51
11And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
12And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.
((( Look what is going on with the people now days. If you look at a perosn in a wrong way ,you will get kill. Look what is going on everyday on the news and around you now. Then these fake Sunday Pastor(Devil Worshiper) dont even care about people who needs help and living a dream life while you or somebody else getting throwing out of their home because these fake pastor talk you into getting all your life saving to them and now somebody is living in the street stilling believing the lie thinking maybe i didnt give enough and that why i,m on the street.. then it going to get to the point that your own family member will hate you once you tell them about the truth from the bible not from T.D Fakes.)))
Matthew24:13
13But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
(((Guess what? You not save to you go though Great Tribulation frist and die for Christ because you love Him and Keep His Commadments till Jesus returns. But If you be so bless enough once God find out the you die for Him and keeping the Commandment and you didnt take the make of the beast. Gues what now? Now you saved from Gods wrath. That is the mean of save when you endure to the end wha tChrist Jesus was talking about .)))
Matthew24:14-51
14And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
15When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)
((( This is the part that we all have to be on the look out for. We going to fine out about the Adomination of Desolation. Now Jesus telling us to go back to the Old Testament and read the book of Daniel to find out about this Adomination of Desolation.)))
Daniel7:1-8
In the first year of Belshazzar king of Babylon Daniel had a dream and visions of his head upon his bed: then he wrote the dream, [and] told the sum of the matters.
Dan 7:2 Daniel spake and said, I saw in my vision by night, and, behold, the four winds of the heaven strove upon the great sea.
Dan 7:3 And four great beasts came up from the sea, diverse one from another.
Dan 7:4 The first [was] like a lion, and had eagle’s wings: I beheld till the wings thereof were plucked, and it was lifted up from the earth, and made stand upon the feet as a man, and a man’s heart was given to it.
Dan 7:5 And behold another beast, a second, like to a bear, and it raised up itself on one side, and [it had] three ribs in the mouth of it between the teeth of it: and they said thus unto it, Arise, devour much flesh.
Dan 7:6 After this I beheld, and lo another, like a leopard, which had upon the back of it four wings of a fowl; the beast had also four heads; and dominion was given to it.
Dan 7:7 After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it [was] diverse from all the beasts that [were] before it; and it had ten horns.
Dan 7:8 I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn [were] eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things .
(((The first beast the lion with eagle’s wing’s represents the Babylon doing the time of King Nebuchadnezzar to his son King Belshazzar time , and were the frist Genitle Kings who ruled in this world from 605 to 562 B.C.
The 2nd beast is the bear with three rib on his mouth represents Medo Persia from Darius the Mede to Darius III, the Persian which is known today as Russia
The 3nd beast the leopard represents the Greeks empire.The fiur heads on this leopard represents the same four generals that inherited the kingdom.
The 4th beast represents Rome. The head represents all the emperors of Rome from Octavian to Romulus Agustalus. The (10) horns represents the menthat tried to restore Rome after its fall..
The fourth beast was dresdful and terrible and ten horns and was different from all the other beast before it. In Daniel7:7-8, this beast also had another little horn that rose plucked up three of the first horns.
This little represents all the religious leaders from the first one to the coming of Jesus.
Before we can even discuss the ten horns on this beasts , and the little horn, before which three of the first ten were destroyed, we must identify the head on which the horns sets,and the beast itself. This beast , the Roman empire, first put the Italian peninsula in order by waging war against the other communities that had settled on it, most of which had their own cultures and laws. The largest and most organized tribe, other than the Roman townships, were the Samnities. As the Romans continued their wars of expansion against the smaller communities, they would have minor clashes with the Smnities from time to time however , no major battles developed from them.
Finally the Romans captured Naples, and the Samnities stuck back. War ensued. There were defeats and victories for both sides.Long, hard campaigns and truces did not last. Most of the smaller tribes in the mountainous areas of the peninsular Italy, sided with the Samnities, as did many emies to the Greek city-states along the coast. The tribe of Southernn Italy encombined force with the Etruscans and with the Gauls of Northern Italy.
By 290 B.C., the Samnities had been defeated, then the Etruscans, and later the Gauls.
Most of the Greek city-states in the peninsula were brought into the Roman state, some as subjects, other as allies. After a few more battles, and even two defeats in 280 B.C., the Romans finally prevailed. They quickly subjugated all the remaining independent communities. The entire Italian peninsula was now a confederation including about two hundred autonomous states, among which Rome held supreme power. Roman, now being in total control of three to four million inhabitants and many powerful armies, set its sights beyond its borders. After some military defeats, the romans finally conquered outside enemies, such as the Gauls, Carthaginans and other srounding neighbors. Rome grew ans expanded in territory and power. In 64 B.C., under the leadership of Pompey, Rome conquered Syria, the kingdom of the north. Thus they put an end to the dynasty started by Alexander the Great’s geneal , Seleucus.
At that time Rome and Egypt were on friendly terms, but as the years passed, power struggles took place within the Roman state. Winning out over pompey and his son and several other, was Julius Caesar, who was appointed sole dictator.Caesar made many reforms, and enemies , and was later assassinated on the 15th of March, 44 B.C., in conspiracy led by Marcus Junius Brutus .The citizens of Rome turned against the conspirators, vary leader, Mark Anthony, who spend most of his time with his mistress, Cleopatra, the Queen of Egypt. While Mark Anthony was in Egypt making his own plans, Octavian, who became the first Roman emperor, rose to power and established his supreme rule in Italy and in the western and central provinces. A civil war broke out between Octavian and Mark Anthony. The war ended in 31 B.C. with Octaian the victor. Anthony and Cleopztra committed suicide , and Egypt became a Roman Province, thus bringing to an end the Kingdom of the South, which had been ruled over by Alexander’s general Ptolemy. With the fall of Egypt went lat vestige of the once great Greek empire.Octavian was given the title Augustus, and from that time on,Rome was no longer called called dictator, but Emperor, which was the head of the fourth beast. With the head, a succession of emperors in place, the Roman empire enjoyed quiet order and internal peace, and was in control from 31 B.C to 235 A.D.
After 235 A.D, chaos started to set in. First from internal corruption among high officials, which weakened the empire, then pressure fromoutside nations, over which they once had control. with an increasing number of civil wars, and Roman generals fighting against each other , the empire could no longer stop the advances of outside forces. Because of these internal and external problems , Rome reverted to totalitarianism, and that’s when cruel treatment of the public set in. The suffering became unbearable.
Because of excessive cruelty , Romans started to turn to a religion that stressed love and charity. It promised redemption , resurrection, and in the after life, happiness unattainable on earth. Unitl it became worldly with the exercise of power, Christianity, to them meant alienation from life,Constantine I(called ”The Great), rose to power, he supported Christianity.As soon as Christian sabbath day were enacted. Constantine, in 321 A.D., prohibited all business on that day, except necessary agriciltural labor. Constantine died in 337 A.D., receiving a Christian baptism before his death.
Rome was not able to stop its outside attackers. It finally collapsed in 476 A.D., when its last emperor, Romulus Agustalus was deposed by the Herulians under the leadership of Odoacer, the first of the Germatic tirbes to sack ruled the Roman state. I used the word “state” because the empire had long since fragmented and Rome had lost control of the world.
After the fall of the empire , the Christian church stepped in , and for at least 1000 years gave Europe a measure of unity. The Pope , which had little or no power under the Roman emperors, had grown to be more powerful than the barbarian kings who tried to recreate the Roman empire.The Pope claimed his authority descended from the apostle Peter, to whom Jesus had said,”Thou art Peter and upon this rock I will build my church.
This will bring us to the ten horns on the head of the dreadful and terrible beast in Daniel 7:7-8 . The head of the beast represents the emperors that ruled Rome when it was an empire and in power. The ten horns represents ten men who tried to restore Rome and make it a world dominating emoie agian.The little horn that had eyes like a man, and a mouth speaking great things , represents the men that took on the title of the Pope. Being that this little horn will continue until the second coming of Jesus, we understand it is the office of the Pope that will make the difference.It does not mattwe how many men hold that office, they inherit the power that comes with it, and are all represented by tht little horn.)))
(((Guess what? This little horn is the pope A.K.A The AnitChrist. That is the Abomintion of Desolation known as the POPE(AnitChrist)… )))
Once the Pope(AntiChrist) step into that 3nd temple which is they building right now. That when the three half years Great Tribulation starts. Not the seven year Tribulation because it is a lie. But the bible says in the book of Revelation The Great Tribulation is only 42 month which is three half years only. NOT SEVEN YEARS!!!!!
Daniel7:15-25
I Daniel was grieved in my spirit in the midst of [my] body, and the visions of my head troubled me.
Dan 7:16 I came near unto one of them that stood by, and asked him the truth of all this. So he told me, and made me know the interpretation of the things.
Dan 7:17 These great beasts, which are four, [are] four kings, [which] shall arise out of the earth.
Dan 7:18 But the saints of the most High shall take the kingdom, and possess the kingdom for ever, even for ever and ever.
Dan 7:19 Then I would know the truth of the fourth beast, which was diverse from all the others, exceeding dreadful, whose teeth [were of] iron, and his nails [of] brass; [which] devoured, brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with his feet;
Dan 7:20 And of the ten horns that [were] in his head, and [of] the other which came up, and before whom three fell; even [of] that horn that had eyes, and a mouth that spake very great things, whose look [was] more stout than his fellows.
Dan 7:21 I beheld, and the same horn made war with the saints, and prevailed against them;
((( The Pope (A.K.A AntiChrist) is going to hunt you down and kill you and cut off your head of your body because you find out that you have to worship on Saturday(True Sabbath) which is the truth, and you just find out that Christmas was a pagan day. You just finding out that aint onbody is not getting raptrue off. You just find out that your fake Sunday Pastor telling you lies all this time to your face. That why the pope is going to make war with the saints because the people is seeking God just find out the truth when they open the bible. And the Pope hate that when you opening the bible and that why the Pope (A.K.A AntiChrist ) coming after those when just finding out the truth.)))
Dan 7:22 Until the Ancient of days came, and judgment was given to the saints of the most High; and the time came that the saints possessed the kingdom.
(((This after the Great Tribulation that Jesus will Judge the world and doing some killing before He throw alot of people in the Lake of Fire because they refuse to keep all of God Ten Commandments and His Dietary Law as well.)))
Dan 7:23 ¶ Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces.
Dan 7:24 And the ten horns out of this kingdom [are] ten kings [that] shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.
Dan 7:25 And he shall speak [great] words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.
((( This AntiChrist (The Pope) will go against everything that Jesus say what you can and can not do. Like for example Christ say if you love me keep all my Commentments ,but Pope will say you dont have to keep the Law. But Jesus says do not make any graven images or do not bow down to them. But Pope says no you can do keep the Christmas. Christ say love your enemy but the Pope say kill your enemy. Everything the pope (A.K.A AntiChrist) dose or go aginist what God says. That is blasphemy and that cant be forgiven in this life of the next. The Pope will be doing this for a time and time dividing of time. That is three half years of Hell from the AntiChrist(pope ) once He ste into that 3nd temple , and you better start fleeing out this country and go to the MOUNTIANS which is the Wilderness The place of safey were God Gave Moses The Ten Commandments at. Since we in the Untied States , we have to flee to the East acorss the RED SEA.. You will wait to get there so you can get away for the Pope(AntiChrist) . )))
Matthew24:16
16Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:
17Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:
18Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.
((( I just told you that is the place of safey which is the Wilderness that mountains that Jesus tell us to go after you see the pope take his place at this 3nd temple and calling himself God . But that just kill alot of lie about the rapture because aint no rapture. If that was why did Jesus tell us to flees to some mountian just to get away for the pope(AntiChrist).Because the rapture thing is a lie. You will not find the word rapture in the bible. ITs going to be crazy when this AntiChrist(The pope) steps in the 3nd temple and he will make fire come fire and make the status walk and talk . This pope will get his power from Satan. . We going to read more about the AntiChrist and what the make of the beast(666) mean since these Sunday pagan worshiper is not going to tell you.)))
Revelation13:1-18
Rev 13:1 ¶ And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.
Rev 13:2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as [the feet] of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.
Rev 13:3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.
Rev 13:4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who [is] like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?
Rev 13:5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty [and] two months.
Rev 13:6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.
Rev 13:7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.
Rev 13:8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
Rev 13:9 If any man have an ear, let him hear.
Rev 13:10 He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.
Rev 13:11 ¶ And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
Rev 13:12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
Rev 13:13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
Rev 13:14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by [the means of] those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.
Rev 13:15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.
Rev 13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
Rev 13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
Rev 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number [is] Six hundred threescore [and] six.
((( Do you know what 666 means? I will tell you. Since the number Six hundred threescore and six is the numbe of the beast and the numbe of man.
When you see the Pope wearing a clown of his head.
That clown has title name VICARIUS Filii Dei which means subsittuting replacements of the Son of God. other word This pope calling himself God.!!! That is blasphemy!!!!!
V = 5
I = 1
C = 100
A = no value
R = no value
I = 1
U = 5
S= no value
=112
F = no value
I = 1
L = 50
I = 1
I = 1
=53
D = 500
E = no value
I =1
501
When you add the total number of value 112+53+501 =666. That is the number of the Pope which is the number of the beast and the number of man.
Bibile say if anybodt take that mark of ther beast(666) they will go into THE LAKE OF FIRE….
Matthew24:19-51
19And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!
20But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:
21For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
22And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect’s sake those days shall be shortened.
23Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
24For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
25Behold, I have told you before.
26Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.
27For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
28For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.
29Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
31And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
32Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh:
33So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.
34Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.
35Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.
36But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.
37But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
38For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,
39And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
40Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
41Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
42Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.
43But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up.
44Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh.
45Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household, to give them meat in due season?
46Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing.
47Verily I say unto you, That he shall make him ruler over all his goods.
48But and if that evil servant shall say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming;
49And shall begin to smite his fellowservants, and to eat and drink with the drunken;
50The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of,

Well, I don’t think Spike Lee is “hating”. I just think Perry’s movies are not his cup of tea. I, personnally, like them and was not interested in stage plays until I saw his first movie. His movies are good, display positive messages, real life situations, and employs a lot of good Black actors and actresses who have real trouble finding roles. At the moment what he is doing is hot, it might not last for long, but he not only displays the “ignant” part of Black people, I’ve seen some strong, caring, and educated characters that noone wants to point out. Now Meet the Browns and the other show are garbage to me, but his movies are great and I will continue to support him becuase I am grown and I can support whatever makes me laugh.

I think Spike is just jealous because his movies arent as interesting or good as they used to be. I like Tyler Perry’s plays better than his films, but he always has a message behind the comedy and so called coonery.

Its ASHAME Spike Lee is DOWNING HIS OWN KIND and YET he is SPEAKING of HOW Tyler Perrys MOVIES are BAD EXAMPLE…AS IF HE IS SET’ING A POSITIVED EXAMPLE,BY THROWNING STONES AT TYLER PERRY. THE 2 OF THEM ARE RICH BLACK MEN AND IN THE EYES OF THE WHITE MAN THEY BOTH ARE N!GGERS…SO WHY CAN’T SPIKE LEE JUST JOIN FORCE,WITH TYLER PERRY AND LIFTED EACHOTHER UP.

Why must this simplistic website,phrase this as spike lee vs tyler perry,are we ever allowed to be constructively critical of each other without a war theme or headline.
here is the spike interview regarding the situation,please listen and read OBJECTIVELY black people and stop listening to fake doctors and so called community leaders.
lead yourself and your family.
INTERVIEW LINK BELOW FOR WHO HAVEN’T HEARD IT.
http://www.radiofacts.com/2009/10/28/spike-lee-tyler-perry-filmed-exclusively-world-black-enterprise/

Yo got some st8 up hatin goin on by people like that nigga gentleman288, that bald headed nigga lookin like a sugga daddy on here. That cat blackdiamond184 ain’t lyin I read that about spike lee getin Italy mad at him cause he f**ked it all up. So what the difference between a strong black man and a strong man of any other race ? I know white and mexican niggas in tha joint that put fear into all you cats talkin s**t on here. Just cause that boy white don’t mean he don’t know what he talkin bout.

At 1 time Spike Lee movies were the thing 4 black people 2 watch but it’s a new era. I think that Spike is hating because he realize that his time has passed & some1 new,some1 much better is in the spot light. I love & admire Tyler Perry. His movies & sitcoms always teach a lesson & I would let my kids sit down & watch them any time they want to. I do not understand why black people donot support & praise each other instead of trying 2 find faults & flaws in their success. Spike needs to stop hating. If your time has passed,so be it. Please allow the next black man 2 enjoy the blessing that God has bestowed upon him.

But honestly Forget Spike LEE…. Heard of him, but never seen his movie. But Tyler Perry is the s**t!!! Madea goes to jail made 43 million in the first weekend!!!! Thats popular, thats awesome, outragous or whatever you want to call it so…..spike can die slow….Tyler Perry just needs to keep coming out with good comedy. !!!!

Spike Lee is a straight loser and hater. He has been that way for years. Most of his films are garbage, they just dont catch my attention. And like Pac said years ago this fool doesnt even think that he is Black. lmao

@truthserumX….all black people growing up poor was not the point nor the statement made in my message. Tyler Perry’s plays, movies, shows represent middle class people, families…that at some point some of us can relate to.

Unfortunately, your statements/comments/questions as to how many prostitutes i know being saved by rich gentlemen or how many he/she grandmothers do i know is not really the debate. It’s the messages that Tyler attempts to pass on to his audience. And unless you have a study done on the number of converted prostitutes, I guess neither of us have an answer to your question. I won’t even address the he/she grandmother question….not necessary.

Let’s look at the number of lives Tyler Perry’s material has touched. How many people have gone through some of the issues brought up or portrayed in his material. The number of people that have gained renewed strength. What was Tyler’s goal in the first place. Nevermind Spike Lee, and any other negative people….has he attained his goal?

Let’s not create an unnecessary scorecard between Spike and Tyler…..we should be uplifting. By box office numbers, ratings, audience turn out at plays, a lot of people enjoy, and can relate to Tyler’s works.

I love Spike Lee As well as Tyler Perry. I think they both make very good points on the issue. I don’t think there conflict is as big of an issue as the media makes it seem. They both are incredible filmmakers that we all should be very proud of. Spike is the Malcolm of filmmaking and Tyler is the Martin of filmmaking. We need them both.
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Spike Lee is a hater, he just want the spotlight back on him because Tyler Perry has taken over, he just make better movies than him that’s all maybe he needs to step his game up instead of criticizing Tyler Perry or congratulate the man for what he has accomplished as a black man.

Please watch the interview, Everybody saying Spike Lee mad or jealous, this man is not the least jealous of Tyler Perry movies or plays, Spike Lee is on a whole different thinking level, remember this man made Malcolm X, also Spike walk with the Minister Louise Farrakhan, and there is other great black leaders he stand behind, he’s not trying to make movies for everybody to jump around and laugh, he’s on a whole different level people, “”"”"Spike Lee trying to wake up the massive of black people” Look I “LIKE” Tyler Perry but we have to be real, if our son came home from school and said momma & daddy I have a very good part in a play at school, I’m going to play a woman so I need for you guys to take me to the department store and help me find a dress for my size, and I need for you guys to help me find some high hell shoes, also I need some lip stick some fingernail polish and the remover to take it off after the show, now I feel most men and women would have a problem with doing that for their child, I know I would, they would have to find another person for that roll. Here is the link for that interview ====
http://www.radiofacts.com/2009/10/28/spike-lee-tyler-perry-filmed-exclusively-world-black-enterprise/

Also I notice most people thats on here going against Spike Lee were kids when he was making great black movies,trying to wake up our black people, most of you guys wasn’t even old enough to appreciate Spike Lee’s movies, he really tried to help us as a whole

This how Malcom X would have broken it down:

I see what’s going on here. This argument is divided between high level thinkers and the ignorant people. The high level thinkers see the truth in Spike Lee’s statement and the ignorant ones think he’s hatin on Tyler Perry. The ignorant ones will laugh at themselves at their own expense but when the white man laughs at them the same way, they get upset…smh!

The thing is too many people worry about something that has nothing to do with them. We are the only people that have to say something about another successful black person. Number one if the man wasn’t jealous in some sort of way he wouldn’t say the stupid crap he said about this man. I’m saying he wants to be Tyler Perry but just because a person is accomplished in some sort of way doesn’t make them immune to be jealous of another individual. Spike Lee is a good director but in every movie he has us cussing like a sailor when every black person doesn’t talk like that. There is no one way to portray black people and that’s what ppl need to realize. So that man could’ve kept his opinion to himself because whether or not he approves it or not Tyler Perry is makin his money and if it was garbage he wouldn’t be successful. And never heard anyone complain about him being madea so what he dresses like a old lady it’s theater and it’s make believe and that man is secure enough in himself to do it. Now if he was wearing it in public that’s another story for another day. But my ppl need to quit with the negativity and get behind each other if it’s something positive and stop thinking you are more than what u are.

and a correction to my post i’m not saying he wants to be tyler perry because he has own success but tyler perry is not going around saying anything about him so why is he opening his big mouth to say anything about tyler perry. This is what i’m trying to get at.

It’s not that I dislike Tyler Perry, some of his movies come with a religious message, but at the same time Meade has made appearance in 75% of his movies with the same message. And most of his movies are the same plot or close to it, they all take place in the ATL someone tends to be on drugs or have died from them, and if you pay attention dark skin guys seem to play the enemy other than daddies little girls or whatever it may be called. Its not about a black movie era as a director your job is to make art on screen that’s what Tyler Perry movie’s lack, the creativity is terrible, what he has grossed in ticket sales has nothing to do with art, I salute him as a business men, he took all his plays that minorities enjoy made movies, but as a director his movies are starting to lack substance, NO producer nor author has come to him with a script. Where as Spike has done School Daze,Jungle Fever,Malcolm X,4 Little Girls,A Huey P. Newton Story,25th Hour,She Hate Me,Inside Man,Miracle at St. Anna….. ETC plus a number of music videos by artists such as Prince, Michael Jackson, and Anita Baker and numerous commercials . SO I DOUBT SPIKE IS HATER…. Really If Tyler Perry wants to be taken serious as a director he has to keep out that BOX…

ive read some post on here and alot of people are dissing spike lee and saying his time has passed….i dont think so…spike lee is a great film maker…but he is in his own catagory and tyler perry is in his own…like would you compare spillberg to tarantino no there two diffrent film makers…spike lee (crooklyn) was pointing out a two parent home, living in the semi ghetto (crack heads stealing money from kids), using food stamps when they can get there hands on them, very little family problems…black family who had to deal with the lost of there mother…tyler perry (diary of a mad black woman) was pointing out a women who was going threw a divorce from her rich, lawyer, cheating husband, and having to figure out what to do next…as well as in the movie seeing a women who had a husband two children and was addicted to crack…both movies point out two diffrent lives of black families every were…what i see is the diffrent prospective from two diffrent people…tyler perry doesnt want to cover up any thing he tells it like it is…or how it can be if it happens to you…you can be that women married to a rich husband who is leaving you or that crack head mother, and also what he is saying is that you can over come those opsticles…spike lee i fill he tries to cover up some things…he keeps it real for so long but covers every thing up…but thats how i fell about it….

I agree with spike lee…If you pay attention to tyler perry movies. It’s all the same. You have the dark brother dogging the sister and then you get the light skin brother to come in and save her and treat her right.And it kills me when I explain to women that I barely watch his movies and when i tell them why they look at me like i just killed their dog. But then they come back and tell me how right I was about his movies. Mr. Perry said that his movies portrays black family…I don’t have no one in my family that acts like Brown. And all tyler movies have a happy endings. I lmow chicks that’s doing the 80/20 rule and still tryna find true love off that fictional formula portrayed in a tyle perry movie. I do understand the message he sends out.

If we could just for one moment forget what Spike said about Tyler, and just for a sec grasp the big picture, we as a people, as a nation and as a group have done so much over the recorded history of mankind and yet so little in the preservation of our own pride and dignity. Instead we have traded it in for paper dreams of acceptance at the cost of intelligence, instead of becoming wiser and seeing things outside the boxes of our own existence we have become enslaved to handouts of society allowing it to not only determine who we are but dictate how we treat each other. For example in the summer of ’85 i remember we as a community were still getting together havin house parties and neighborhood cook outs….the following summer when crack hit the same folks that were hanging out with each other, were shooting at each other across the woods with shotguns, at that time you could get away with murder for the cost of a ten dollar piece of crack, matter fact there were several instances where there were not even an investigation. Sad enough none of us seen through the mist, today every inmate that is incarcerated, the states earns approximately 40,000 dollars a year. Do i need to point out who makes up the majority of our prison system, today people a child knows how to be a nigga or a bytch quicker then he or she knows what it is to be a woman or a man. if we were not the least common denominator of what Madea represented, then Mr. Perry would have to come up with something new, so I’ll end this in the words of Spike Lee by saying “Wake Up”

Spike is once again on target. Mr Perrys’ films have alway been aimed at the lowest common denominator. He exploits tired worn out stereotypes to get cheap laughs and emotional responses out of semi-literate section-eight recipents. The gentleman in the previous post was correct you can always tell how a Tyler Perry film will end so why not just watch a cartoon???

I just think Perry’s movies suck in general, haven’t liked a single one. Perry is a hack whose films are one dimensional and light on entertainment value. . . .and his Madea character is about one of the worst characters in movie history. Props to him for having his own studio and production company, but. . . .

All I havw to say avout this is “Crabs in a bucket”!

Tyler Perry is what the the Jewish controlled movie industry wants. It keeps that low life image of blackpeople infront the world.

Look at it now……
You got Medea…She represents our sista, who dont have manners, carrys a gun, loud, uncontrollable, chain smokes, curses, ignorant, and overweight, always in trouble with the law.

The uncle…Whos a blackman stuck in the 70′s. scared to death, faggish actin, foolish, no woman, and in gerneral soft with a weak jesus bag, and a high voice, no manhood about him at all.

Then the old man…….He represents our brother, who smokes weed, a lil nasty man, ignorant, body broke down, always saying nasty lil things, and has no clue about life in general just a broken man living off someone else.

The heavy set woman, is our fat church goin sista, in everybodys business, thinks white Jesus gonna make everything alright.

In general, they push Tyler Perry films, to continue to show the world that black people are savages, and cannot not be civilized. A Man who puts on womens clothes, should be beatin, but we laugh and laugh while our sons are turning gay in the worse way..our mother are sitting infront the T.V watching that which keeps them down in the dirt…..Monique show(garbage) Wendi Williams(trash)The game(love white folks trash) college Hill(school trash) and soaps which teach our people nothing. Blackpeople are in a bad state of affairs..We have tusted a Prezz who hasnt even acknowledge us, and continues to do as Bush did and Much MORE.
..Like Farrakhan said Oct,18 2009. We have been put to sleep in the most dangerous time, by putting our hope and trust in OBAMA, who is not the BLACK President, but The American president(for whites only).

Spike Lees movies show us in a positive light, how strong our men can be. our true gifts, our real problems. his films has more debth and meaning. So again the Jewish controlled movie industry doesnt want us to be seen as a great people, but the clowns and buffoons they made us to be on the plantation. Soon folks like TYLER PERRY will been banned from our community, and ALL his money wont mean a damn thing, cause when the whiteman is done with his n****r behind, they go get the next slave to show the world how broken we are.

There is no one way to make flims about Black People. There is room for all views. Its art and there are a myriad of ways people cam make movies. People are buying both of their products. And Oh by the way all BLACK people dont think alike.

Spike is right, hands down. Film making is his profession, why wouldn’t he say something. Did you ask the same questions when Jay Z put out D.O.A., these professionals don’t want their beloved art of choice to be diminished by mediocre tricks.The difference between the two compares to the difference between watching the “Cosby” show and watching the “Parkers”. Don’t get me wrong, the “Parkers” is entertaining, however, a president has already been set. Why lower the bar! It was cool the first time; nonetheless, he may spawn an outbreak of mediocre black films. As if we don’t have enough. You all have seen what happened with reality TV. “YUP”, I said it! From “I Love New York” to “Tiny and Toya”. I like it, but even “Housewives of Atlanta” have to go. All of them could have the same title : ” What are these women going to do today”. Look at where we are headed, what do you think is next?

Alot of you all are missing the point. I love Spike, and I also love Tyler. Nobody said anything about Spike and his Mars Blackman alter ego chasing after M.J. and his Air Jordens “is it the shoes” we all got a laugh out of it. So leave Tyler and his Madea character alone. As in Spike Lee Joints, get the message that the brothers are trying to put out there for us. I loved Tylers “Daddys Little Girls”, he shows that not all of us black men out here are dead beat dads like some would have you believe. Both brothers are great at what they do. If you get the message from laughter then good, if you get it from a serious Spike film then good. Just get the message. Stop letting the devil divide us as a people, and from the comments that I’m reading that’s what’s happening. All these years and Willie Lench and his punk A#@$ words are still at work. Pit the light skin against the dark skin, the old against the young, women agains men, and men against women, and it’s still working because we are letting it work. As it was said at the end of the great Spike Lee Joint, School Daze, “Wake Up! Wake Up!”

Mr Perrys’ films appeal to people of limited intelligence and means. They recognize him as one of their own who caught a break. That is why they squeal so loudly when EDUCATED black people criticize him!!!!

Somebody said ” Spike can die slow”. Wow!

Just another league. I am sure Tyler Perry watched Spike Lee movies and may have never criticized him. I have seen Spike Lee movies and thought some were great. I have fallen asleep on Lee’s movies while I stayed woke on Perry’s movies. Tyler/Madea is a gun toting grandma. While Spike has gun shooting life time criminals in the movies I saw.
I have seen Spike Lee on talk shows and he has always had to criticize someone.
Spike is a great writer. I rather laugh more than cry or spend money comedy when I can watch a sad ass doc**entary at home.
Which one of Lee or Perry agent’s would you want to send to repair you heater to you house? You don’t see shoot outs at a wedding or a funeral on Tyler’s movies or plays. Madea has it under control. These people are real and Tyler has brought them out. That was something writers could not always do for Black Americans
I love them both. Everyone has their own opinion. Spike don’t take everything so seriously. It Tyler time. You do your thing and He do his.
If anyone can tell me where to get that old poster at let me know.

You do your thing and I do mine. If together we find each other it’s beautiful.

We are so critical of one another, why can’t we offer a hand of support? Yes, these are two types of film makers, although Spike is more experienced but Tyler has more vision and has accomplished a lot. How many blacks have their own studios?

In Spikes hay-day, he was considered the man because his messages reached the masses the same as Tyler today. It depends on where you are in your life. Yes we can relate to some of Tyler’s characters although they may not embodie us but that is not his point people. It’s called entertainment. Spike’s goal was to edutain us. However, let us not forget “She’s Gotta Have It”, was that the correct portrayal of black women? No, I don’t think so, but it was entertainment and his view of black women.

Did Spike have the right to say negative things about Tyler, yes he does because of he can say what he wants. He has a right to believe what he wants, it’s up to us what trap we fall into. White media is not so accepting of Tyler Perry’s movies over Spike Lee’s. Tyler has not let the media preview his movie before it starts because they were overly critical of his first movie which was the box office winner for its time. So stop making this a black or white issue.

“Wake up”. Those are fighting words! I was just passing time as we all are. What do you know about Willie Lynch. All we have are stories. My story, your story, her story and his story; however, which one will be history. Believe what you must; but, the only absolute truth is in your hands.

Three reasons SPIKE is wrong !!!!
1. He’s a hater !!!!!!
2. Jealousy !!!!!!
3. He’s washed up …….. (do u know , do u know? Haha)

Tyler , u the $hit ….. Keep doin your thing!!!
Your movies make us laugh, think, cry, and educate while
making us smile …… Poor spike, he just can’t stand to not b MARS anymore!!!
Hahahahaha!!!!! Tyler, spike just needs some money and his name bck n paper, let
him b a character n ur next movie!!!! (an old mars blackmon!) lol

WOW!!!! It os sooo sad that we cant be for one another as other races do. Spike Lee needs to sit down, he thought he was the man and at one time MAYBE he was (i’ve neverbeen a fan) but now GOD ALMIGHTY chose this time for MR.PERRY and we should be thankful, and grateful that the LORD has blessed him for HIS time. It really makes me sad while makin the white folk laugh. Mr. PERRY keep doin what u doin as long as GOD is blessin u to do it and move to BIGGER and BETTER while U at it. THE SKY IS THE LIMIT ! On top of that u still keep the LORD FIRST and that is AWESOME. I love it when u come to church and worship with us and u act just like us worshipin and praising GOD to, but most of all how BISHOP MORTON keeps it all in order. keep makin me laugh. THANKS. :-)

Ask yourself, If Tyler was White, where would the accolades come from? It wouldn’t come from mslanee1. You’re making it a black or white issue. Tyler Perry is exploiting his people for monetary gain. Yeah, all his movies have a happy ending; but do you watch to feel the massage or the message.

I believe that both producer’s have different views and different ways of showing it on film. Although I don’t agree with all of Tyler Perry’s films, I don’t feel that Spike should have bashed him either. I believe if Spike didn’t have anything nice to say, he should have just said “no comment”, and left it at that. But it just goes to show you how iggnorent acting “we” can sometimes be when you mix a taste of fame, money, and ago together. . . . . . . .

I agree with EZGREEN. . . .

SPIKE LEE IS RIGHT and here is why

Spike Lee has created more POSITIVE ENERGY for black people than any other writer out there. Honestly,to compare Tyler Perry to SPIKE LEE
is embarrising and it shows how intellectaully behind we are as a people.

Me personally,I think its nothing wrong with having fun and being playfull at times,but you have to give the people food for thought also.
And giving food for thought to the people is what Tyler Perry never do.

Tyler Perry has the ear of the people. Not just our people but the ears of other people also.And he could do us alot of good if he had more
balance. Balance as in more meaning, more positivity, more dignity and more righteuosness in his work.

Tyler Perry in no way should be compared to Spike Lee. Tyler Perry has created his empire by playing on the anger and frustration of black women
in America.

Spike Lee created his empire by uplifting our community.Giving our people knowlege and portraying us in a diverse and more dignified way.
Spike Lee was and still is ahead of his time. The problem is most black people today are to stooooopid or corrupt to understand his work.

Even today there is no one out there thats writing to uplift our people.

Its down right embarrising to compare Tyler Perry to Spike Lee.

It’s comedy !!!!
When white people go to a black comedians performance, they get the blues!!!
But it’s all fun ! It’s comedy !!!!!! Enjoy and laugh …. Tyler , do that dam thing !!! Keep
making us “ALL” laugh !!!!!!!! Have a blessed day to all , and smile, and laugh today !!!!

wow!

the writer of this article feels almost exactly how i do about this issue. i’ve seen all of tyler perry’s movies and all of spike’s as well. i will also love spike and he was my original inspiration to become a filmmaker, but he’s dead wrong on this one. tyler has a diversity of images, but if you only watch one or two of his movies or programs, you could be very ignorant of his other images. three of tyler’s movies didn’t even have madea in them. plus spike himself can be questioned on some of his decisions. look at “she’s gotta have it” or “girl 6″. his images of black women could be criticized as being stereotypical and negative. but i didn’t hear tyler tearing him down for that. yep, spike is really all about spike and i think he’s bitter. he’s had 40 acres and a mule for over 20 years, yet the only movies that come out of it are “spike lee joints”. where’s the diversity of him hiring black directors, producers, nad others for their own projects? sure he did a little back in the day with “drop squad” and “new jersey drive”, but those were like, what, fifteen years ago? he needs to stop being a crab.

Basically this so called “doctor” is saying that blacks should heed the “dumbed down” messages that Perry is trying to convey (which is the same old “if you sit there and just pray to a spook that cannot be scientifically proven to exist and please don’t give me any scriptures from the Bible, a book that is known to be corrupted,eventually you will get what you want.You’ve got this updated “Aunt Jemima” archetype in Madea. I’m sorry Doc, but if Perry isn’t a one trick pony then why is it that Madea is always popping up on his $hitcoms? Why is it that these $hitcoms are virtually spinoffs from his stage plays? Someone spoke earlier about “Willie Lynch” (who’s actually fictitious, sad ain’t it?), but the buffoonery(and yes there is an abundance, perhaps some of you should defy what people say and pick up a dictionary)that has made this man profits (from his own, no doubt)is quite abundant. Sadly for those who point this out, they are called “haters”, because their shortsightedness will not allow them to challenge what society shoves down their throat. All that matters ,to some, is the money being made at the expense of exploitation. Why is it when someone critiques that wack $hite that the current “hot commodity” does, that they are called that (a hater)? Are blacks as a race so simplistic that they have a herd mentality implemented their genes? Obviously people like this so-called “doctor” obviously may have that sentiment. And as for those who think that its rainbows, unicorns, and other sweet $hite because of the chief executive officer, you should really stop being so complacent. There are more racists than ever out there because of him. Discrimiation hasn’t stopped, and let’s face it right now white people are still the majority of business owners, media moguls, politicians, etc… The President can’t do $hite without his senate and house anyway. Some of y’all need to stop being so naive, then blacks might be taken seriously for a change.

HATER !!!spike is an indication(as with all haters in our lives)that tyler is doing the right thing.spikes movies are controversal and were pro black,and all of tylers’ movies have a positive message to all who watch.(a godly message).ALL his movies will be classics and continue to bring “us” in,he knows who,when,what,why,and where “WE” are…is spike jealous?i would be upset too,but for only a second,tylers movies touch all the emotions and deepest parts of our thoughts and even change the way we interract with others as humans not as a race.MAY GOD CONTINUE TO BLESS TYLER IN ALL THAT HE DOES,AND MAY GODS GOOD NEWS IS CONTINUE TO SPREAD THRU HIS GIFT!!!!!

Spike lee’s got no room to talk about anyone’s film’s he’s made some film’s the were more than coonerly he displayed us (black people) as violent and prejudice people. and why would you dog him out in the press anyway WOW! you got nerve spike stay at the basketball game’s

You will never convince me that a man wearing a dress is right
simple as that
read between the lines

Comparing Spike Lee to Tyler Perry. Is like comparing Russell Simmons to Jermaine Dupri/ Master P/ Baby/ Irv Gotti.
You take it as you want.

Spike is the Kanye of the movie industry….LOL

Stop hatin and start participantin.

How many blacks have their own studios? is not the question how did they get them is the question by selling U
(insert) School Daze ending

Why is it that anytime two black people in the area of entertainment i.e sports,music,movie or even clothing always have to have division?. I’ve never heard Bruce Willis and John Travolta go at each other about who’s a better actor,damn why do we always feel the need to tear ourselves apart?,who is this helping?,surely not the way others view us. Look these two men are putting black talent to work in areas that is usually never privy to us, so what every role don’t have to be serious there’s room for funny stuff too. Also Tyler need to let it role of his back Spike’s go a right to his opinion,just keep putting young gifted and black minds to work brothers!!

There are aspects of what Spike said that are absolutely true, HOWEVER, his approach & manner of doing this completely killed the right in what he said. Sometimes how you say something is far more important than what you said & this can be used as an example of that for many years to come.

THIS IS SO TRUE!! i always felt that i had to prove my “blackness” due to the fact that i am a refugee, but yet an american because i came here when i was 2 years old… i too was raised by a single mother, and didnt fit the “norm” of my culture.. so who could i relate to but to my fellow people of the same shade as me? but, it isn’t me who is different, it’s the ignorant people and we need to at least talk about it and have respect for the black people doing their thing, and trying to change stuff.. whether it comes in the form of comedy or not, it is the intention that matters.. chris rock is the sh** b/c of this good hair movie.. i have the supposdly “good hair” but am considered an outcast by my own black people.. i am broke, and am trying my hardest to overcome these issues. i actually take responsibility for my actions and have stopped blaming people, but a specific person which i shall not name at my school, and happens to be a black man is limiting me.. i understand he’s stressed, but he told me he was going to process my financil aid for (btw a simple form) after he comes back from brushing his teeth. and in that situation i still gave him the benefit of doubt b/c i not only saw him as a man, but as a fellow black man and didnt want to get him fired but guess what?? he STILL hasn’t done his job so if he gets fired, thats his fault but i’m not the blame for it and it all goes back to the main issue at hand, and i do love spike lee but i agree with you on this issue. tyler perry is doing it in a different way, but if it at least gets one person to think differently that would have intially laughed at these “coon” jokes then his mission in life was succesful so i respect him, not only as a black man, but as a man, and a person in general.. so respect me in turn, not only as a black woman, but a woman in general too.. and this is my vent of the day :)

GOD BLESS TYLER PERRY AND SPIKE LEE FOR GIVING BLACK ACTORS A FOREM FOR SHOWCASING THEIR TALENTS. YES SPIKE LEE HAS EVERY RIGHT TO VOICE HIS OPINION BECASUE HE HAS BEEN WHERE TYLER PERRY IS (BEEN THERE DONE THAT) WHETHER HIS OPINIONS ARE RIGHT OR WRONG WILL ALL COME OUT IN THE WASH WATER. BUT MY OPINION IS COMPARING TYLER PERRY TO SPIKE LEE IS WHEN SPIKE LEE NEEDS AN OLDER HEAVIER FEMALE CHARACTER, HE ATUALLY HIRED ONE OF OUR OLEDER ESTEEMED ACTRESSES WHO MAY BE OUT OF WORK BECAUSE SHE IS AN OLDER HEAVIER BLACK FEMALE. HE IS MALE CHARACTERS IN THE SHOW.. OLDER HEAVIER BEAUTIFUL BLACK ACTRESSES ACTUALLY EVOLVED FROM YOUNGER THINNER BEAUTIFUL BLACK ACTRESSES WHO CANNOT GET AN ACTING JOB WITH PEOPLE LIKE TYLER PERRY WHO CHOOSES TO PLAY THE CHARACTER THEMSELVES. HE IS FOLLOWING IN LINE WITH MARTIN LAWRENCE AND EDDIE MURPHY WHO ARE ACTUALLY COMEDIENS WHO FOLLOWED FLIP WILSON. AT LEAST GIVE THEM A SMALL PART IN THE SHOW. TYLER PERRY’S LEADING LADIES ARE ALREADY IN THEIR 30′S AND 40′S, WILL THEY BE STILL ABLE TO GET A PART WHEN THEY BECOME OLDER BEAUTIFUL BLACK ACTRESSES ARE WILL THEY BE OUT OF WORK TOO?

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Think – about – it.. If Spike Lee didn’t hate on Tyler Perry he would still be off the radar screen.Sad I know, Just come on back with something new and exploit the hell out of us like everybody does and get paid

SUCK IT UP SPIKE, GIVE THE MAN CREDIT FOR THE WORK HE HAS DONE. THE SAM CREDIT YOU WERE GIVE WHEN YOU WERE DOING YOUR THING. hOW DID IT FEEL TO BE CRITICIZED ABOUT THAT MOVIE BAMBOOZELED. HUH?

I am so tired of this. When did Spike lee become the arbiter of all things black. He has gone from telling us who should direct what films and that white directors shouldn’t make urban films to now taking potshots at Tyler Perry. Will someone please show me where Ridley Scott publicly attacked Steven Spielberg. Both of these gentleman are gifted and talented, and both bring their different spin to the entertainment landscape. If Mr Perry’s films are “coonery” then the public will decide that in the marketplace as it should be.I would love to have opened up my email to see these gentleman working together to foster the next generation of talent as they have the resources to do instead I have to read this petty nonsense. Can we get real here

. “You don’t get a baby to eat healthy by only forcing vegetables down his throat; you sprinkle sugar on the food to get the child’s attention. It’s not always a matter of forcing people to consume what they NEED – you should also be willing to let them have some of what they WANT.”

resp: Yeah,put poison sugar on HEALTHY natural food to get a child to eat.
In other words,”Im gonna harm and/or kill you one way or the other.”

One can say the same about Tyler Perry’s movies/plays in reverse.He serves you plenty of poisons and garbage to eat,then gives youa small glass of fresh,squeezed organic,home grown orange juice to wash it down.

The “N” word is not Ok
But Tyler Perry is?

If spike’s not godfather of black cinema, who is? It’s dame sure ant Tyler Perry. You say Mr. Perry movies show diversity in the black community
but I see the same “evil” and or “ingnant” crap on the news and the streets I walk on, and now you want to charge me 12.50 to see it in the movies. What his movies do is make it all ok! Oh its cool my grand’ma is in jail, silly grand’ma.
And my younger sister dances in booty shorts. If he directed Hip Hop videos it would be a problem. NO it is not ok when for years we try to get out of that light and Mr. Perry puts a spotlight on it. It makes me up set how the older black community tells my generation( I am 26) that we don’t represent the “Black people” how they see fit with Hip Hop videos the slang we use and even how we dress. And here come Mr. Perry and his oh so funny black people and situations that only confirm the stereo types that we as black people
Try to avoid and show the world that that’s not always the case.

ok i guess im the one who has to say it, both spike lee and tyler perry make terrible movies . spike lee has had a couple hit but for the most part most of his movies suck ,we just jump on the band wagon cause hes black.tyler perrys plays and movies are so sterotypical its a shame but niggas like drama so hey its all good . Every script is the same church folk that front like the good and are more f**k up then people that dont go. Both equally bad directors.lol

What is embarassing is that this is even an issue. All this energy is going into criticizing one of our positive black men. How can we do this with a straight face?! I am in absolute disbelief right now! One of our own is in a position and DOES provide a forum and opportunity for young black talent to shine and express themselves creatively and what do we do?! CRITICIZE!!!! Isn’t there another battle Spike can use his noteriety to fight? Think about the racist critics of President Barack Obama. That is a much more worthy fight than calling one of our own a COON for making movies with black people by black people and for EVERYONE! I’m not saying there are no negative stereotypes in his movies but Tyler features a wide array of black characters some negative and some positive. Black people as a whole, we’re not ALL positive and we’re not ALL negative. What about the black lawyer (played by Tyler Perry) who battles through raising kids while dealing with a drug addicted wife (who eventually gets clean) is this not a positive message that we are strong enough to be succesful and make it through anything?! What about the young black woman that is tossed aside by her husband (who eventually repents) and makes it through stronger, wiser and with her head held high. Is this not a positive message about the strength of our black women?! What about the family matriarch that educates her family about who black people REALLY are. Is this not positive?! What amazes me is that we’ve come SO far but we still need to pick fights with our own (crab in the barrel syndrome). Let’s have a constructive discussion about what we can do to be better as a people. Stop with trying to break down and discourage black men and women that ARE doing something positive. Let’s fight the battles that will actually uplift us, not the battles that make us second guess ourselves and our people!

HATER- Mostly applied to Anyone that critcizes harmful, bizarre,destructive behavior/acts.Used mostly by blacks.

If you do not know the entire history of “Black” cinema then you are speaking out of pocket. The only reason Tyler Perry made to where he is today is because he had to
A) Be someone he is not
B) Make our families look silly, ignorant, superstitious, and down right foolish at times
C) Dress as a woman

For all of you who know what the minstrel show was all about should feel what Spike is saying. But the clowns that responded with comments like “He is a hater”, “Who said he was God Father?” and all this trash are in fact n****rs(YES IGNORANT PEOPLE!!!!). I do not know of a black man outside of Spike Lee who has studied film and cinema as in depth and as raw as he. He has endured so much racism. In this day in age we are supposed to be equal and all of that but still we have to poison our communities with drugs, kill our youth with guns, relying on a white school system to raise them, and our men need to dress up as women(Tyler, Martin, Wesley Snipes) to become famous. Just about every black “Famous” actor had to put on a dress. Why do we have to be fags, murderers, gangstas, or down right dumb to be accepted? White folks don’t have to

Black planet you are a part of the problem. How in the world can you take time out to disagree with Spike lee when he was speaking his mind and coming from the heart? You want to focus on the little battles we win but never focus on the war we are losing. I am almost positive this site is run by “Black” people and Owned by whites. I mean you promote Rick Ross with blunts in his mouth, the site’s front page is always filled with half dressed hoes, and the topics you talk about get black folks nowhere.

And BET???????? BET IS FOR NIGGAS AND N****RS!!!!!!! That station doesn’t have black America in mind with good intentions. All of this leads us down the path of ignorance. Give me a brother that can be just as funny as Tyler but dressed as a man, as a man. Give me conscious look at black entertainment without making it a PBS special or a nigga in drag. God frowns on a man that dresses as a woman.

But you alldon’t want to hear that. So continue on the path Willie Lynch, Jim Crow, and the rest of OUR oppressors set for us. I am sure there is knowledge at the end of it all

SMH

I hear you Rappel. But what is strange is that we have two succesful black movie producers in Hollywood we’re talking about noone has even uttered the possibility of these two working together. Why not pool their vast resources and make a black movie that’s funny, relevant, socially and culturally responsible and educational for our black people?! Why hasn’t Spike called Tyler and voiced his concerns directly to him and suggest that they put their heads together to come up with a project that NOONE could deny. I mean wouldn’t that be the ultimate solution instead of this in-fighting between ourselves?! We have two sides of the spectrum here, why not meet in the middle? Let’s work together to unite instead of criticizing and dividing!

p.s. I think minstrel show is a bit of a harsh comparison to Tyler Perry’s work. There were NO positive black images in those presentations. In fact they were made for white people who didn’t understand who black people truly were. They were made to appeal to white people’s stereotypes of who we were. Now whether you believe that is what Tyler Perry is doing or not, you can’t deny that there ARE in fact positive portrayals of black people in his films.

But I agree, it’s time we take it to another level. These two should work together. Not criticize one another. Leave that for the TRUE haters!

I THINK IT’S JACKED UP THAT PEOPLE LIKE SPIKE LEE AND OTHER CRITICS ARE HATING OFF TYLER BECAUSE HE REACHES TO THE PEOPLE MORE THAN THEY DO AND HE HAS MADE MORE MONEY OFF HIS FILMS MORE THAN THEY DID IN ALL THE YEARS THEY BEEN MAKING FILMS TO TYLER’S SHORT CAREER IS TO WHY THEIR HATING. IF THEY GONNA GET MAD WON’T THEY DO SOMETHING THAT WOULD REACHES US,INSTEAD OF EDUCATING US ALL THE TIME WON’T THEY ENTERTAIN US FOR ONCE LIKE TYLER IS DOING. I THINK IT’S UNFAIR
THAT THE PEOPLE ON BLACK PLANET AGREES WITH THE PLAYER HATERS. ALL I HAVE TO SAY IS GET ON HIS LEVEL AND THEN COME SEE HIM. THE REASON MADEA IS FAMOUS IS BECAUSE SHE REACHES THE PEOPLE IN A SENCE WHERE THERE’S NO BIG MAMAS NO MORE TO GIVE US ADVICE AND TO TEACH US HOW TO BE STRONG AND TO STAND UP AND FIGHT. MADEA MAKES YOU WANT TO BE BRAVE AND THAT’S WHAT TYLER IS DOING. HE’S A GOOD MAN AND YALL SHOULD RESPECT HIM LIKE YOU WOULD DO WITH SPIKE LEE AND ALL THE ONE HIT WONDER FILM AND PLAY MAKERS WHO’S STRUGGLING TO BE AS BIG AS TYLER. THEY WISH THAT THEY WAS AS GOOD JUST LIKE SOME ARTISTS HATING OFF OTHER ARTISTS IN THE MUSIC GAME AND I WON’T SAY NO NAME

just another thing . . .

it’s very simple . . . if you don’t something you see, DON’T WATCH. turn off the tv, don’t go to the movies, don’t watch the news, etc.. better yet, WHY DON’T YOU MAKE SOMETHING POSITIVE about black people? when is the last time spike did this? YEARS AGO. tyler perry is coonery, but THE KINGS OF COMEDY aren’t? gimme a break. stop whinning and complaining when someone is positive and successful.

some of the posts here show a lot of ignorance to both tyler and spike’s work. and some want to say spike is the godfather of black cinema . . . i don’t know if i agree with that. there were plenty before spike (but of course, most on here probably don’t know black cinema) and will be plenty after he’s gone. tyler’s just made more money, built a better studio, and has a larger audience. deal with it! spike just wanted attention for himself and it looks like he got it.

Humm this right here is the real stuff that makes black people look bad. The fact that it is so hard for some of us to be happy that another person that looks like us is making something happen and being positive about it. Spike could have really saved his comments because in the end it only makes him look bad…I can find more than 3 reasons that Spike Lee was WRONG for his HATIN comments

TAKE A FEW STEPS BACK MR.LEE….ITS TIME FOR TYLER AND THE YOUNGER BLACK FILM MAKERS TO SHINE…STAY POSITIVE

Some people must have not checked history, because if you go back to early black comedy, blacks were represented as slaves, maids, nannies and dummies, the comic relief! All that coonery&buffoonery led to oscars and academy awards for some blacks!

I’M SORRY BUT IF THATS THREE GOOD REASONS WHY SPIKE WRONG,YOU NEED THREE MORE. ACTING LIKE A HOMO IS NOT DIVERSITY NOR DOES TYLOR FILMS COUNTER NEGATIVE RAP MUSIC. DR. BOYCE YOU MUST BE A WOMEN,SO YOUR ARGUMENT SHOULDN’T BE PUBLICIZED,YOU HAVE NO RIGHT SPEAKING FOR BLACK MEN IF YOUR NOT ONE. SECOND DIVERSE MOVIES ARE LIKE SPIELBURG FILMS,NOT STAGE SHOWS THAT COPIES PRIME TIME SHOWS LIKE “FAMILY MATTERS” OR THE “COSBY SHOW”,WHICH WAS ACTING. NO REAL BLACK MAN GONNA PAY MOVIE PRICES TO GO SEE A PRIME TIME SHOW,IF HE DOES HE’S NOT ALL MAN OR HE JUST TAKING HIS LADY. WE ALL KNOW BLACK SINGLE WOMEN IS TYLOR’S TARGET AUDIENCE IN ALL HIS FILMS. GIVE ME SOME ACTION ADVENTURE OR HORROR FILMS THEN WE CAN SAY MRS. TYLOR DIVERSE….CHUCH,WATKINS

Ah, about time someone speak out about Tyler Perry. I’m not saying the man isn’t a talented film producer/director. But Spike Lee is right on point with his comments. Come on now, the Madea character is just a spoof of real african american mothers/grandmothers. Although I have watched and was somewhat entertained by Tyler Perry’s work, none of his films have exactly impacted me in a way that Spike Lee’s key films have. Spike Lee has made key contributions to not only the African-American community, but other communities, such as the hispanic community, as well. Perry’s films and T.V. shows doesn’t really speak to me, or for me. It’s sort of like the angle B.E.T. has taken. Buffunery and Coonery, that’s exactly what it is.

I am fully aware of Black American cinema history so let me first get that out of the way. I respect the work that Spike Lee has done but he does not always put Black people in a good light. Take for instance Samuel L. Jackson and Halle Berry’s roles in Jungle Fever. She’s Got to Have It could also be viewed as putting Black females in a negative light. Mo’ Better Blues Denzel Washington played a dog. I could go on and on with this list but the point should be made. Every Black movie producer can NOT have the same point of view or else there would only be room for one of them. Tyler Perry is successful because he gets the butts in the seats and I believe that is because he has positive messages in his movies. He uses comedy to draw people in but that’s not what he’s all about.

I’M SORRY BUT IF THATS THREE GOOD REASONS WHY SPIKE WRONG,YOU NEED THREE MORE. ACTING LIKE A HOMO IS NOT DIVERSITY NOR DOES TYLOR FILMS COUNTER NEGATIVE RAP MUSIC. DR. BOYCE YOU MUST BE A WOMEN,SO YOUR ARGUMENT SHOULDN’T BE PUBLICIZED,YOU HAVE NO RIGHT SPEAKING FOR BLACK MEN IF YOUR NOT ONE. SECOND DIVERSE MOVIES ARE LIKE SPIELBURG FILMS,NOT STAGE SHOWS THAT COPIES PRIME TIME SHOWS LIKE “FAMILY MATTERS” OR THE “COSBY SHOW”,WHICH WAS ACTING. NO REAL BLACK MAN GONNA PAY MOVIE PRICES TO GO SEE A PRIME TIME SHOW,IF HE DOES HE’S NOT ALL MAN OR HE JUST TAKING HIS LADY. WE ALL KNOW BLACK SINGLE WOMEN IS TYLOR’S TARGET AUDIENCE IN ALL HIS FILMS. GIVE ME SOME ACTION ADVENTURE OR HORROR FILMS THEN WE CAN SAY MRS. TYLOR DIVERSE….CHUCH,WATKINS

We have interviewed celebrities from all walks of the entertainment business, but this guy (Spike Lee) is, and I Quote “ A COMPLETE AZZ HOLE” Spike called the radio station to set up the interview at his venue. Once we arrived he made us wait 40 min while he talked bull crap to another on of his flunkies. After we patiently waited the 40 min on Spike he came over to do a Half AZZ interview. Spike was very rude, inattentive, and smelled like he had not had a bath in 7 days. Spike DOES NOT deserve the respect or support of the Black community. His statements about Tyler Perry is normal Spike Lee “ A COMPLETE AZZ HOLE” When I’ve watched Spike Lee movies in the past I thought I saw a movie maker serious about black culture. Boy was I wrong. But Mr. Perry is serious about his business, and does not deserve any of Spike Lees Bull Crap. Message to Spike Lee : Your time is up clown, continue NOT to wash your azz, shut your mouth, and find you a hole to hide in clown.

It dosent matter if he’s a azz hole,all that matters is,was he right about tylor films

HELLO MY PEOPLE!!! LET’S FOCUS ON LOVING ONE ANOTHER FOR ONE MINUTE. SPIKE LEE, I LOVE YOU MAN. TYLER PERRY, I LOVE YOU MAN. ALL THE PEOPLE HERE READING AND SHARING THEIR “OPINIONS”, I LOVE YOU ALL TOO. AS FOR OUR OPINIONS, THIS IS THE ROOT CAUSE OF THIS BACK AND FORTH, DEFENSIVE AND OFFENSIVE “DEBATE” WE HAVE AT HAND. I RESPECT SPIKE FOR HIS OPINION, IF IN FACT IS WAS TAKEN IN THE CONTEXT WHICH IT HAS BEEN DISPLAYED. I RESPECT TYLER FOR HIS CONTRIBUTIONS. BOTH MEN ARE UNIQUE INDIVIDUALS WHO DESERVE THE SAME RESPECT YOU WOULD GIVE TO ANY OTHER HUMAN BEING, REGARDLESS!!! SOMEBODY SAY SOMETHING!!! WE SHOULD FOCUS OUR ENERGIES ON RESPECTING ONE ANOTHER FOR THE BLESSING WE TRULY ARE. HAD THERE BEEN NO SPIKE LEE, WE WOULDN’T HAVE TYLER PERRY. RESPECT THE FACTS PEOPLE. I’M GOING DEEPER NOW, GET READY TO DIVE. HOW ABOUT RICHARD PRYOR? HE DID A “DRAG SKIT”. HE CAN ARGUABLY BE CONSIDERED ONE OF THE BEST COMEDIANS OF ALL TIME, RIGHT? DO YOU THINK BILL COSBY WAS HAPPY WITH IT? HOW ABOUT EDDY MURPHY AND HIS CHARACTERS? “HOW YOU DOING?” RED FOX AND CONSISTENT DISRESPECT OF THE CHARACTER, “ESTER” ON SANFORD AND SON, WOULD YOU CONSIDER THAT “COONERY AND TOM FOOLERY”? I REALLY DON’T THINK YOU ALL HEAR ME!! TOUCH SOMEONE NEXT TO YOU AND SAY, “RESPECT YOURSELF!!!”. NOW TURN THE OTHER WAY AND SAY, “RESPECT EACH OTHER!!!”. APPRECIATE WHAT WE MEAN IN WHAT WE DO, MY BROTHERS AND SISTERS. WE ARE ALL ONE IN THE END, MANY BEAUTIFULLY CREATED, HIGHLY FAVORED, UNIQUELY DESIGNED OFFSPRING OF THE ONE WHO CREATED US AS SUCH!!! I LOVE YOU ALL! ENJOY YOUR DAY!!!

It is always interesting to get man’s opinion on things, lets get GODs WORDS on this matter….

Deuteronomy 22:5 The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman’s garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the LORD thy God.

Tyler Perry is an abomination, wake up out of The Matrix that Satan has put you in children of Israel, WAKE UP!!!

I feel like this conversation should not be an issue, the only reason is as I see it is because Spike Lee is jealous of Tyler Perry and his accomplisments, instead of him as a black man being happy for him. He’s JEALOUS and if everyone look back THIS IS what’s wrong with the black race and why we can’t accomplish anything because we ENVY each other. All other races come together but the BLACKS TEAR EACH OTHER DOWN. SPIKE and Tyler could come together and make a GREAT MOVIE BUT NO, SPIKE woulk rather try to tear into Tyler and as long as this happens the black race will never prosper WE ARE OUR OWN WORSE ENEMY THINK ABOUT THE HOUSE “N” AND THE FIELD “N” so even in 2009 the black race goes back to Steppen Flecther, and even Jamal Warner made this stament against Tyler, you have to open your minds.

Some people are so closed minded.. What happened to people thinking for themselves?

What works for 1 person might not work for the next! Spike has his style of trying to reach people and Tyler has his own.

Apparently, Tyler is doing something that reaches a lot of people because he has a heck a following and I am 1 of them that is following him!

What makes matters worse is that people are acting like the characters in Tyler’s movies or plays do not exist! From the prostitutes whom you see just about everyday on your block, to the drug dealers, to the child molester (look @ any news station on any given day), AND MY FAVORITE the woman/person that tries to use big words and screws it all up! You can’t say that you have not run into people like that! They are probably a family member! and the list goes on.

Everyone has a right to their own opinion! Just like a**holes “Everybody has one.. But where I find the problem is when we began to try to undermine the person who is doing their own thing.

No one wanted to take a chance on Tyler SO he used his own money and look @ where he is today! He is an equal opportunity employer. He refuses to be taken over by HOLLYWOOD and does his thinking. Not allowing anyone to change HIS VISION.

I have learned several valuable things in life and 1 is : IF you have a problem with someone, don’t go running around telling other people. There is nothing that they can do about it, you go to the person and talk to them. Spike could and should have handled that much better. Use wisdom.

I am sure Tyler is not an unreachable person. Spike could have and should have talked to Tyler about his feelings and not go on the air to to so.

Ok, In the words of Samuel in Do the right thing,”TIMEOUT!” You guys who agree with Tyler Perry being a sambo & And are obviously so homo phobic you think he’s hurting OUR image by performing in drag(which he’s always done before his success) ya’ll really need to chillout. First off I obviously love Spike’s movies & have always respected him as the greatest black director..when I was in highschool. He’s good at making our conflict in America more intense visually & should be teaching other black directors rather than breaking them down once they make their own way. It’s one thing when he speaks out agains. Hollywoods racism,on tarentino & other White directors. Another when he’s insulting another grown ass man for using what he knows to convey his message. If I were Tyler Perry I’d tell Spike to his face shut the hell up and make another good movie urself! What’s it been 15 years? You don’t get to criticize every single black man in shobiz because u made 3 or 4 great movies. I’m an actor & considering writing myself & as I see it. Tyler is giving us at least positive messages through our most inspirational elements, our struggle,our religion,our black women. Madea he says is his homage to the strong & sometimes funny blk women who raised us. I don’t see him as just an excuse to be a crossdresser,& exploit our stereotypes. Jesus, some of u commenting are so obtuse & you can barely spell in your insults! Think about it? All that we have today are the negative images of 50 cent, corny syndicated sitcoms that aren’t even funny anymore just n****rish. & worst now we’ve got the small straw in real life America where class now outways race,money is everything,& we are economically doomed for lack of ownership,buisness, and intellectual say so. We are behind! & partly because of dumbass criticisms & unwillingness to work together. Spike should not be attacking this man if ge seriously believes his own buls**t! He should be doing more workshops and providing oppurtunities for this generation who is in serious need of artistic expression. I don’t even watch most of Perry’s movies because my initial though was that their ghettoed out blackploitation plays. Then I saw one and was captivated. We don’t need hot white violent images right now, we need something to offset all the more real negative things that are self perpetuated by blacks in the lower to middle class. Kudos to Tyler Perry & his success,without getting shot,Being a thug,or whining about whites having the upper hand. Half of you could have his Dow you’d put ur grandmas dress & panties on right now!..hypocrites. “and that’s the truth,Ruth!”

Spike Lee is not that great of a director. Spike Lee is just mad that Tyler Perry has eclipsed him. Every one of Tyler Perry’s movies have debuted at number one at the box office. Spike Lee will never have that kind of success. Regardless of how Spike Lee feels, people like Tyler Perry’s movies. Opinions are like a*****es. Everybody has one.

Movies, especially comedies, are suppose to separate us from reality. Otherwise it is just not entertaining to me. Spike Lee’s movies are whack. I didn’t like any of them. To be quite honest, if Tyler Perry’s movies weren’t so star studded I wouldn’t like his movies either. I don’t like religion in movies. Movies should be secular like public schools. I love Cicelie Tyson and Kiesha Knight Pulliam, Mary J. Blige, Gladys Knight, Maya Angelou and all the other superstars he has in his movies. I just don’t like all that Jesus stuff.

I don’t mind a man dressing as a woman to entertain people. Quite frankly, I think it’s hilarious. No one said anything about Wesley Snipes in Too Wong Foo.

HEY SPIKE, I SAY CHANNEL THAT ENERGY INTO SOMETHING POSITIVE FOR YOU AND US,STOP HATING AND MAKE A MOVIE, THERE IS ENOUGH FOR YOU TOO. EVERYONE HAS TO FIND WHAT WORKS FOR THEM, HE FOUND HIS, YOU FIND YOURS, YOU HAD IT LONG AGO, YOU CAN RECAPTURE IT, THINK POSITIVE, I AM SO SICK OF US HATING ON OUR OWN RACE. OTHER RACES SEEM TO SUPPORT EACH OTHER & PULL TOGETHER, BUT WE AS A PEOPLE CANNOT.
WE WOULD RATHER SEE SOMEONE ELSE, OTHER THAN ANOTHER BLACK PERSON, MAKE IT, WE ARE STILL OUR OWN WORSE ENEMY. LONG AGO WE WERE SLAVES TO OTHER RACES. NOW MOST OF US ARE STILL SLAVES—-OUR OWN MENTALITY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have respect for both Spike Lee and Tyler Perry. I’m disappointed that we as a race can never just “do us” and leave the criticism of our fellow people to other people to provide. Obviously he does not like Perry’s film/fan base and that’s okay. All Spike needs to do is keep up with his fans and his fan base. Why do we always have to pit outselves against one another. We are african american but we are also individuals.

Why does there have to be a message in all black directed films? Do we all only watch movies based on how the characters reflect on us or members of our families? If so very few would make the cut. Would LaWanda Page have been a great Madea? Yes, in my opinion. The fact that the focus is about a man in a dress rather than his acting ability or his financial status at the time she was created isn’t considered. The fact that entertainment is designed to take us out of our reality for a few seems to be lost also. If it’s not a biography why judge it for more than the creative material it is. Humor isn’t funny to everyone it’s something that each of us experience differently. In Jungle Fever did Wesley snipes character have to be a cheating husband going after white woman? No, but spike wrote it that way. The reality is these movies/shows are fictional and looking to them for an exact image of ourselves, neighbors, or families isn’t what they were created for. The good and bad of all races plays out on television and in the movies, but you only see us fighting about it amongst ourselves.

You like most Tyler Perry fans miss the point. Mr Perry is more than welcome to continue with his low brow humour and you pitiful project people can continue to make him rich. But when you try to present this hack as a serious artist it merely reveals the sad depth of your ignorance. Would the director of the “Larry the Cable Guy” series even be mentioned in the same breath as say a Martin Scorcese??? If the IQ of the average African American increases even 5 points this dicussion would be moot because no one would support Perrys’ garbage!!!

I think spike is way off base with what he is saying. Not every film has to deal with social issues. some should both entertain and inform. Sounds to me that Lee is jealous he didn’t think of Madea himself.

I thought are black generation mint something,if you can’t see that dressing in drag in +80% of your film wrong,you don’t want are people to ever be right.Taking up for tylor and blaming spike’s wrong,not wanting better quality black films for the generation to come is wrong and these narrow views points given by you niggas is wrong. No wonder are kids last in everything,I’m ashamed of being called black when niggas like you all speaks for us.

BLACK WOMEN PLEASE SHUT UP,THIS SUBJECT BLACK WOMEN SHOULD HAVE NO PARTS OF. WHY WOMEN ALWAYS TAKE UP FOR THE GAY DUDES? ITS NOT ABOUT THE MONEY,ITS ABOUT DIVERSE QUALITY FILMS FOR THE BLACK FAMILY AND FROM THESE RESPONSES I SEE YOU DON’T CARE MUCH ABOUT YOU SONS.

i agree, things arent n shouldnt be bout right or wrong but theres notin wrong bout tyler perry his over all an Inspiration to (all) very funny n entertaining MADLUV

its entertainment to you,but a stereotype for me and you really shouldn’t have a voice in this matter young lady. Until I see a film when the white dude dies first in,then your comment could have substance. LMAO

I understand Watkin’s attempted point, but it pretty funny to read Spike Lee’s stance placed onside of Joe Louis and Jesse Owens when Spike’s legacy is clearly more revolutionary; with Perry being more consistent with mainstream stereotypes of black lifestyle and depth of thought. Whether he thinks producer’s need his approval or not, Spike remains more synonomous with Ali and the ’68 protesters. Watkin’s comparison has poor face value due to this fact.

I go to the movies for entertainment and to laugh occasionally and if I need the seriousness of Spike Lee I will see his movie too. Both brothers are equally talented directors in their own right. Spike needs to do his thing and worry about his movies. There is enough room for both of their egos in Hollywood.

I am not really a fan of Tyler Perry. I tend to agree with Spike in regards to the amount of “coonery” in Tyler’s projects (both tv & film). He does, however, provide opportunities for more Black actors and production types. I can’t knock that! Don’t think Spike should put him on blast though

I love Tyler Perry and Spike Lee I just wish we could support each other rather than call each other names like the brother who scrutinze perry for dressing in drag rather than him reaching our young people. I must say that every movie he has made has me thinking about family and how valuable and sacred it is.

We need Tyler in these days and time. We need to laugh. Tyler Perry leaves nothing to mystery and I don’t cringe when I watch his stuff. However, I DO cringe after seeing a lot of these ‘hip hop’ and R & B, rappers up on stage knocking our former honorable down a rung everytime they make an appearance. JayZ, Beyonce, Ciara, Little Kim, Lil Wayne, T Pain. No even if you are distrubed by the so call coonery or bafoonery a the Madea character you can best believe that Perry’s isn’t putting down black women like it seems to be the ‘trend’ in the music scene. No we NEED Madea to reminds us that we are a strong and humorous people. And that humor can bring people together. Just look at all the white women who has learned to be stronger because of Madea (this wise silly man in a dress)!

We “need” Tyler Perry like we need another crack epidemic. WAKE-UP The guy makes B movies for semi-literate welfare recipents. Its’ amazing that so many of you promote this trash and then wonder why being black in America is now synonomous with ignorance, poverty and criminality!!!

Spike has become too critical regarding Tyler’s work. He instantly reacts to the superficial elements of Madea and some of Tyler’s other characters; but fails to look more deeply at what is really going on. Tyler has been quite effective at using those very character elements, thought negative, as a means to draw a multi-ethnic audience to see the wider spectrum of our peoples and culture. The foundation of his works is always positive messages regarding ethics and morals,”Doing The Right Thing”. These message films did not generally do well at the box office to the wider audience but Tyler has transcended the barriers with his genius and is drawing everyone out. I feel so proud to hear the middle age and senior WASPs rave about the new Tyler Perry film they just saw. I am hearing these conversations going on around me at all kinds of venues, even board meetings. Despite what Spike says they are not mentioning AMOS and ANDY or COONERY either. You go Tyler. The Lord has blessed you and you even find a way to honor him in your films.

That human cricket is just jealous, and he is trying to shame blacks into honoring him by saying his movies are educational. What is so educational about a pizza boy who stops by his woman house for some azz. Do The Right Thing made blacks look like womanizing trouble makers.

Ok I admit it Tyler Perry is a genius. The greatest film-maker of ALL time!!! A credit to his race. GIVE THIS MAN HIS OSCAR. The sad part in all of this is that his section-eight fans are stupid enough to believe the above statements.

WOW…I love Tyler Perry movies and plays and Ive never been on section8, recieved welfare, been on drugs or been to jail (other than working there)so all those ignorant statements must have been directed towards yourself, “suprapubic buddha.” An niggas like u, Terrance Hater, are one of the reason why women turn gay. Since both of you are so opinionated, why dont you join ignorant forces and write, direct, and produce your own movies. Haters love to hate on what they’ll never achieve!

If Spike Lee is so respected in the movie industry, WHY CAN’T HE GET FUNDING. Tyler Perry isn’t looking for funding, but maybe that’s because he is too busy putting out the box office hits.

I know what, MAYBE HE CAN ASK TYLER PERRY FOR SOME MONEY AND MOVIE IDEAS THAT PEOPLE WILL LIKE AND PAY TO GO SEE. Tyler Perry is the box office attraction, not the cricket/turtle.

First off I’d like to start by saying that I’m not a huge fan of Tyler Perry! I totally disagree that his movies and shows produce a diversity of images however, his movies do sale! We all have to make it out here in some form, shape, or matter! Although Spike Lee’s movies send off great messages, they don’t get nearly as much attention as Tyler Perry films. Everyone has their own ways of how they choose to send out positive messages. Tyler Perry has made a title for himself as being the comedian, church going, cross dresser, as for Spike Lee has made a title for himself as being realistic and positive. If rappers stop talkn about money, sex, and alcohol and start talkn about being positive will their album still sale? NO! That same example goes for movies. Tyler perry is maken what will sale rather than what may be positive for everyone else! Hell if someone told me that I’d get paid plenty of money for splashn pink paint on a piece of plain paper and create art without meaning, I’d do it! So why not get paid for something that’s gonna make real money? You show me a movie without drama or humor and I will show you a movie that wont sale!

Tyler Perry is the black version of John Waters. The only difference being John Waters knows his role and doesn’t expect to be taken seriously. I just find it astonishing that so many of you just can’t seem to get it!!!!! Just because a product is popular doesn’t mean it is made with quality or care. Tyler Perry should not even be mentioned in the same breath with SPIKE LEE. Long after we all are gone people will still watch MALCOM X. UNDERSTAND?????

I Totally agree with suprabuddha, Tyler Perry makes coonery, I see how you muthaf**kas stand to watch tat s**t I lose brain cells just thinking about watching it!

As much as I love Spike, I totally disagree with his criticism of Tyler Perry. Why? Tyler’s movies have several messages. One, redemption, that no matter how flawed a person is, there is always redemption and hope. Second, he reflects a whole range of characters that we do not see on TV and film.
Third, Tyler, has opened doors and opportunities for charachters and actors who would not have been offered parts in mainstream America.
his movies touch me and I love Spike, he should not have attacked another artist publicly. Is this jealousy?
It is to divisive. Love you Tyler, Love you Spike
CJ

In the future, I like to see real more humor and DIVERSE characters and less sermonizing in Perry’s films. I don’t go to movies to be preached too. I could go to church for that.(but I don’t) And Perry shouldn’t assume all black people are god fearing, fundamentalists folks. Some of us are ATHEISTS.

Tyler Perry is a great producer and so is Spike but lets be serious and intelligent for a minute. These brothers emit contrasting messages in their works. I don’t know how many of you agree with this but TP’s movies seem to support many of the insidious stereotypes about black people. Spike’s movies on the other hand seem to support and build the positive culture and character of black people. Think about this Denzel’s “Training Day” Halle’s “Monsters Ball” hollywood loves to see black people portrayed as subhuman incapable indignant beings. At the end of the day I think it’s all about who you wish to be accepted and respected by.

I was under the Impression that for something to be considered as coonery or buffoonish, It USUALLY has a hint of humor albeit corny or whatever. With Perry’s'comedy I find rather lame and unfunny. His stage plays tend to humorous at times. His network comedy I find to seriously lack humor. The acting Is Is terrible. The actors/actress, look more like fish of water. I have yet to view an entire episode of Meet The Paynes. I’m very surprised that he was given another series, “Meet The Browns” which I have no desire nor plans to struggle through. I question whether giving Perry a second series to be a sincere gesture of honor for what some perceive as his comic genius or an Inside joke to facilitate Perry’s’ crash Into obscurity.

LOL, funny so funny. I think a lot of people have lost touch with the fact that most of the things Tyler Perry put in his shows and movies actually happen every day. Thats the problem now these days, there are very few grandmothers like back n the day that used 2 hold the family down and handle biz when kids get out of hand. That marriages do end in divorce and separation because a spouse uses drugs, cheat on each other, and various other issues. If u pay attention 2 his plays and movies then u will see what most our black people deal with on a regular basis. There is no need 2 try and sugar coat what happens when it happens every day no matter the race. Some people just cant and dont want 2 handle the truth. It is what it is and Tyler learned how 2 make money showing these things. Not everything is meant 2 b funny but only understood.

If you sprinkle sugar on the vegetables they are no longer as healthy as you would have them be. MOMNO3 you dont get it.You must be a young person since you seem to feel nothing matters as long as you get PAID. spike lee doesn’t get the funding because hollywood execs feel and always have felt more comfortable and less threatened by buffoonery.I like some of tyler perrys movie and probably all of spikes . I think they both have valid points. all black people do not know a madea and since tyler perrys movies are not all comedies but drama mixed in I would like to see more good positive people particular black men. also maybe he doesn’t know it but we have issues and broken hearts too.

I have’nt seen any of Tyler Perrys movies but i do know what Spike Lee is talking about in regards to the amount of coonery and buffoonery type images that are conveyed on the big screen and tv regarding black folks.Me personally i’m waiting for the next Spike Lee Joint.

Tyler Perry…God Love Him. It amamzes me that a man who makes, good, entertaining movies that will make you laugh, cry, think and think some more, and bring you to God is upsetting the uppity folk this world. Spike Lee should be flattered because he is a great movie maker and he has opened up the door for other great movie makers such as Tyler Perry. The truth is life is what life is and in our African American Culture we have big women, small women black women handling their business, then we hvae those that don’t. In our culture we have fathers doing the right thing, and then there are those that don’t. We have a human nature about us as black people that is not perfect as every other race does. If this man is smart enough,to make people think and make money at the same time..I say leave him the hell alone.

I see my family in Tyler’s work everytime I see something he has made and the fact of the matter is, I’m sure many black people see themselves in is work.

Spike Lee leave Tyler alone and just respect that you two are different. It doesn’t have to be one way. And if you don’t like what he makes. Don’t go see his movies. I’m sure your one movie ticket won’t make him or break him. Acrually you are probably helping his ticket sells by causing such controversity. So I say Tyler keep on doing what ya doing. Some of us love it.

LDOG, you can ask anybody. I don’t answer PERSONALLY unless and until you summon me. So let’s have sensible dialogue. Let me ask you a question and would you be so kind as to answer without anger and namecalling, which you thankfully have not done.

What is there to be learned from Do The Right Thing? That you can have a job, but do everything in the world but your job and if the boss addresses your lack of work ethic, he is picking on you?

SPIKE LEE NEED TO GET OFF HIS HIGH ASS HORSE AND GIVE THE BROTHER SOME LOVE. HEY TYLER IS DOING HIS THING. DOING WHAT IT WOULD TAKE HOLLYWOOD MONTHS HE GET DONE IN WEEKS.

I AGREE WITH SMILINMJ SHE IS CORRECT..TYLER IS SHOWING WHAT HAPPENS IN OUR SOCIETY AND HOW WE OVERCOME OUR PAIN,HE IS SHOWING OUR WEAKNESS BE DEF HIGHLIGHTING OUR STRENGTH,,SPIKE LEE FILMS HAVE NEVER TAUGHT ME A THING OR MADE ME REALIZE THINGS ABOUT LIFE,,HIS T=STUFF IS FANTASY TO ME..THAT’S WHAT’S WRONG WITH BLACK PPL U WANT TO LIVE IN A FANTASY WORLD,NOT GOING TO HAPPEN FACE YOUR BAD ALONG WITH YA GOOD!!

Some of Spike Lee films are terrible. Jungle Fever was just a waste of time.

I’ve said it before & I will say it again…Spike Lee was straight “MESSY” the way he put this out there. He is entitled to his opinion but if he deemed it necessary to insult Mr. Perry’s work he should have went STRAIGHT to the source and eliminated the “middle man”. People ask celebrities questions all the time and they politely respond with “no comment” or decline to respond. This foolishness is doing nothing for the black community or the film industry. These two producers should be able to work as a cohesive unit (although using their own creative DIFFERENCES) and carry all movie genres…put these white folks out of business. You don’t see Stephen King or Steven Spielberg beefing against one another! You know why??? Because GAME RECOGNIZE GAME & they know it is a piece of the pie for both of them ;) . Spike needs to get off of it. Tyler Perry is a creative genius. You don’t have to like it but you gotta respect it! He isn’t in the driver seat for nothing. TP has creative CONTROL over his productions and he is only getting better. This man built an empire from the GROUND up…rags to riches baby! Love him or hate him he is here to stay!

tyler perry,he is the man

f**k tyler perry with with his common blk folks s**t, He has white people everywhere thinking every black family has a big grandma who hits people with her purse. most of you dont understand spike lee films if you call them crap. they are deeper than fried chicken jokes. Spike lee is a great american director with millions of fans and he did not have to dress up as a fat black lady to get them. dont believe the hype

I have to agree with Spike on this one. I don’t know why but a large number of black people don’t like to watch intelligent or movies that are relevant. They would rather watch trash like little man, white chicks, and Tyler Perry movies. Most black people don’t like Amistad, Do the right thing, Malcolm X, Bamboozled, Summer of Sam and the 25th day. Sorry people but Tyler Perry is not in the same league as Spike lee. If Spike wanted to make movies similar to Tyler he could but I don’t believe Tyler could make the quality of movies that Spike has.

I really effing HATE when some ignorant fool claims that “MOST BLACK PEOPLE…” something. Anything. It just burns me up, because it’s not true.

What the person is really saying when they say stuff like that is, “I really think or feel this way MYSELF, but I need a whole lot of people standing behind me to validate my feelings because I don’t have the strength of my conviction.”. Speak for YOURSELF, please! I love and respect Spike Lee, but I don’t agree with everything he says. I think he’s WRONG, and what he’s been saying about Tyler Perry sounds really bad, especially coming from another Black man. I don’t know if I’m in the minority or the majority and quite frankly, I don’t give a crap. That’s how I feel about this situation.

Spike, being one of the few successful black directors in Hollywood, should’ve called a summit and invited all the black directors: major and indie, where they could’ve all sat down together and discussed the future of black films in Hollywood. It could’ve been a POSITIVE experience of bonding and brotherhood INSTEAD of one black man attacking another black man in the press. This way, it puts both Spike and Tyler in a negative light.

Its ASHAME Spike Lee is DOWNING HIS OWN KIND and YET he is SPEAKING of HOW Tyler Perrys MOVIES are BAD EXAMPLE…AS IF HE IS SET’ING A POSITIVED EXAMPLE,BY THROWNING STONES AT TYLER PERRY. THE 2 OF THEM ARE RICH BLACK MEN AND IN THE EYES OF THE WHITE MAN THEY BOTH ARE N!GGERS…SO WHY CAN’T SPIKE LEE JUST JOIN FORCE,WITH TYLER PERRY AND LIFTED EACHOTHER UP.

I POST-THIS COMMENT BEFORE AND Its ASHAME Spike Lee is DOWNING HIS OWN KIND and YET he is SPEAKING of HOW Tyler Perrys MOVIES are BAD EXAMPLE…AS IF HE IS SET’ING A POSITIVED EXAMPLE,BY THROWNING STONES AT TYLER PERRY. THE 2 OF THEM ARE RICH BLACK MEN AND IN THE EYES OF THE WHITE MAN THEY BOTH ARE N!GGERS…SO WHY CAN’T SPIKE LEE JUST JOIN FORCE,WITH TYLER PERRY AND LIFTED EACHOTHER UP.

spike need to just pick up his pen and write another one hit wonder….Instead of hating on Tyler….It’s not Tyler’s fault you’re not in the spotlight anymore…It’s called good writing and good promoting….Instead of sitting back sulking and being jealous….Spike why don’t you just get to work on your next film…HATER

Spike Lee makes better movies…far as CONTENT

but Tyler Perry knows how to HUSTLE !!!

gotta combine BOTH them attributes n get it poppin

Tyler Perry is the Man. He is only telling the truth about some black people or maybe most..Thats why we find this kind of comedy funny. Similar to Martin’s TV show..If black people are tired of people making negative movies about us, we need to do something about our lives, change the way we live and do things..We keep living like “Menace To Society” and Boyz in the Hood, people are willing to lean towards those types of movies!..So black people we need to step our game up as a whole.

I love Tyler Perry movies for the simple fact that there is no violence, they are not scary, they are positive black films. Sometimes I get tired of seeing black people in a negative light, black people don’t always have to be drug dealers, pimps, hustlers, gang bangers. Why can’t we see black people in a positive light. In the words of Tupac, just cause you from the ghetto doesn’t mean you can’t grow. Mr. Perry if you are reading this, keep doing what you’re doing cause I love what you’re doing.

spike lee dont even compare when it comes to tyler perry period,everybody is entitled to they’re on opinion no matter how stupid,this is another form of black on black”NOBODY WINS”.I personally like tyler perry’s work better and clearly most with the exception of a few african americans do to.This is typical from one brother to another,hatred run rampid between us aint no love where it should be.WE NEED US.

Now, this is a good article… Not like some of the other crap they put on here … Nice job >Dr. Boyce Watkins

Spike Lee is the man and he is entitled to his opinion just like everyone else who commented on this article. Whether he is right or wrong is in the eyes of the beholder. Learn you history about Black actors and then take a look at some of Tyler Perry’s characters. All they need is a good watermelon eating race and we will be right back to the sambo era.

These dudes grew up in different parts of the country. TP has nothing to be ashamed about. People write what they know. However is healthy to challenge the intergrity of someones work. I give it to Spike split decision.

It is healthy to challenge the integrity of someones work.

What does Spike want, everyone to emulate his type of filmmaking. Both are indeed first rate levels of work. I don’t like hearing Spike criticize Tyler, maybe it’s due to the fact that Tyler could buy those horrible NY Nicks that Spike loves so, and Spike hates that all he can afford is front row seats.

Tyler brings humor, art, and the black experience, that many of us can identify with to life. If you don’t like his work, let him know by not buying a ticket. I’m not so hi-falutin sophisticated that I can’t see similarities of my own family in his movies and enjoy laughing at my self.

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