i’m aware that for the entirety of our struggle, there have always been white people working for us and helping us from the underground railroad to the ones who marched w/ us during the civil rights movement to this man right here. love compassion and understanding exists in all shades. it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to calculate that racism is just plain wrong and stupid.
i appreciate anybody and everybody who sheds the sweat blood and tears for my people’s struggle

hell no, he can,t be a black revelutionary because one thing, he ain,t black second,he can go home put on his work clothes and go right off and become the pillow of his white community,he can never change his color,there,s a whole lot of sambo black people that stand up for the white racist cause everyday but, i bet you a million dollars that i don,t have, there,s not one white person would call, or consider them to be white ain,t no way in the world, only black people say stupid s**t like that always trying to abrace whitey.

Laugh my muh-phuccin’ ass off! HELL NO!

Absolutely not. My boy (who god bless him) is a white man, with black wife and kids, just is so up to date and knowledgeable, for a white man, he shames most blacks he stumps with his knowledge. But to hear him sounding all pro-black, sometimes it scares me because although he can understand, he can’t relate to the plight of blacks, and his wife is a well-to-do negro from upper middle class family. SHE doesn’t want to hear all that blackness talk, because she’s practicing escapism by being with him, yet was attracted to him for his pro-blackness.
But then he’ll do sh1t like schedule the whole family to go see the John Brown exhibit, by force, and well that’s when I think he’s watching a little too much Avatar as he will bust out a list of white men famous for saving/helping blacks. That’s when I call shenanigans on his azz!

I honestly think that some Black people just want to claim the MOVING ON UP victory solely as a Black victory. Like, when slavery was abolished, we were the only ones who cheered.

It’s asinine to sit back and COMPLAIN when Whites are really holding you down (literally) and then COMPLAIN more when Whites hold you down (slang)…

Some of you really need to get a grip on reality. Blacks didn’t get to this point in history on our own. Other races played a large part in that. You really think a bunch of slaves and ex-slaves bent the will of the entire country and Constitution on their own?

Point is…Racial Equality is a GREAT MESSAGE. How can you be mad when someone else wants to advocate the same message that you support?

That’s just stupid. Wake up, people…

Aside———–
Let me make it clear that I’m not saying While people ‘saved’ us back then or need to ‘save’ us now.

What I’m saying is that a lot of us need to shut our EGOS down sometimes and realize Blacks (on the whole) have some serious issues to contend with. It seems pretty bass-ackwards deny people who would attempt to help.

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I wouldnt say they can be pro-black, BUT remember that it was other Europeans who helped the fall of ROME.

some european cat like 2 weeks ago crashed his plane into the IRS building. while I DO NOT SUPPORT him doing that, he spoke alot of truths on how foreign corporate entitites like the IRS & Federal Reserves are making life hard for people.

(Andrew) Joseph Stack
http://www.businessinsider.com/joseph-andrew-stacks-insane-manifesto-2010-2

or people like Tim Wise speaking on race relations in America. youtube him

to tell the truth, i dunno what to think sometimes cuz just like back in the day, the same slaves you trying to help get free will kill you faster then massah will…. but it is what it is fuggit

Yes, there are and were some pale brothas that were and are done for the cause of complete equality.

For example, back in pro-slavery days, there was a man by the name of John Brown (pale Christian) that actually got a group of black brothas and were killing pale faces that were either slave owners or had pro-slavery attitudes.

He was snitched on by a guy name Sambo. So, when you hear a person say, “he an Uncle Tom”, they meant to say a Sambo because Sambo was the trader; not Uncle Tom.

See thats one of the,Blacks biggest problem.Stop looking at uncle tom spike lee movies,about Malcom X.IN REAL LIFE.LET ME SAY IT AGAIN IN REAL LIFE.After Maclom X had this so called “religous awakening”.He had 2 organzations.And did not let one white face in.But yall wanna tell house negro jokes about “Farrakhan”.Whenever he speaks these FACTS,about massa.Yall are bigger fools then I thought.How in the hell yall.Going to BELIVE.That after almost 500 years.This devil is going to become yall best friend.Yall are even foolisher for even to expect these devils to be yall friend.He do what he do.Because the opertunity is to ease to stop.It’s like puting water in a man face.Who been in the desert for days.And not expecting him to drink.

Sure they can. They just have to be white, and genuinely working for pro-black revolutionary causes.

First of all, lets be clear with the definitions. Civil rights is NOT revolutionary. Revolutionary is critical, constructive change. Civil rights is merely seeking to be accepted in the present system. Our biggest problem is realizing that this current system is literally bad for our health. Spiritually, mentally, emotionally, economically and so on. As the saying goes, when we were brought here we were robbed of our name, land and culture. We lost our native tongue our mores and subsequently, our minds. Having said that, Malcolm NEVER recanted his statement, but he clarified it. He felt whites could aid, but shouldn’t be on the front lines, and certainly not acting as treasurers, CEO’s or any other position of authority within the group. Tim Wise is a very deep dude who offers great insight, but at the end of the day, black people have to take up that fight. I always say that whites can play a BIG role in this fight, but send them to go work among the racists, not the victims of racism. You want to help me, go talk to the person writing policy that creates problems for us, I will go among my people and deal with them. I’m not sure why these guys feel compelled to come help us, when were not the problem!

Actually I wrote this before listening to the interview. After I have done so, I could have summed up my entire post by quoting my man Stan

HELL NO!

Funny thing is though, I have been reading this blogger for a while now, and I have never seen him do a story on so called revolutionaries, and when he attempts to finally do so, he presents us with this FOOL???? GTFOH!!! Where the hell is Maatra and Nana with the heat missiles?..lol

All pro black revalutionary’s are racist

@_A_

I think the first part of your post rings true..

The people in the videos aren’t the only Whites who have taken up the cause..and hopefully they won’t be the last.

I’d rather not have my future kids live in a world where we still feel ‘downtrodden.’ I couldn’t care less if it is me, another Black person, a White person, or an Opaque person who stems the tide, I just want things to change..

I think too many people want positive change “with stipulations.” When you fall down into a dark well, you grab whatever hand that you see. I for one, think that with all of our B-on-B crime, rampant overdoses, poverty, single mothers-fatherless children, etc, we’re just wasting time hatin’ on the messenger.

L]istening to leaders like Nasser, Ben Bella, and Nkrumah awakened me to the dangers of racism. I realized racism isn’t just a black and white problem. It’s brought bloodbaths to about every nation on earth at one time or another.

Brother, remember the time that white college girl came into the restaurant—the one who wanted to help the [Black] Muslims and the whites get together—and I told her there wasn’t a ghost of a chance and she went away crying? Well, I’ve lived to regret that incident. In many parts of the African continent I saw white students helping black people. Something like this kills a lot of argument. I did many things as a [Black] Muslim that I’m sorry for now. I was a zombie then—like all [Black] Muslims—I was hypnotized, pointed in a certain direction and told to march. Well, I guess a man’s entitled to make a fool of himself if he’s ready to pay the cost. It cost me 12 years.

That was a bad scene, brother. The sickness and madness of those days—I’m glad to be free of them

WTH? No. Dumb question to ask.

@shipper2009. Why is it that you keep putting Black in parentheses? Let me see If I got it straight. You wanted to be a black muslim, but you’re white? Yeah, I could definitely see how that would be 12 years of hell for anyone. I think the lesson learned from that story is, if you’re white, don’t try to join a black group or organization and vice versa. I know thousands of Muslims who have had the exact opposite experience with the black muslims. To suggest that because YOU had a bad exp. that somehow the rest are fools who continue on, is a bit arrogant on your part isn’t it? How can we be certain, you weren’t the problem? This foolishness about being hypnotized is not an experience that I had, nor the countless people I have come across in my travels. It’s easy to discount a doctrine or a belief that differs from yours as hypnosis, based, but at the end of the day, everyone needs to respect the next man’s belief and keep it moving, because otherwise, you’re the only one sounding like the fool. In my humble opinion.

The idea of a white person being a pro-black revolutionary likens to the movie Avatar. We can’t help ourselves without them and after, we name them king of the black people.

Wow Casey this has to be the dummiest question you have ever asked. I am not gonna spend alot of time on this. HELL NO!!!!!!!

i think i’m in the middle because i agree with _A_ i also agree with Kashi 101…because other races could never completely understand what it is like to be Black in America…but also…there had to be white people during slavery and we know for a fact during the civil rights movement where many that marched and died…so I’m in the middle…anyone can show compassion for basic human rights that’s just being humane…

_A_

You are the one who’s proving to be a fool my friend because that quote came directly from Malcolm X. I knew you couldn’t go long before proving your own ignorance, Im sorry I forgot to place his name on it. You don’t seem like you are a dumb guy, but you should just open up your mind and try to not always think based on race. I could suggest some authors and pieces of literature that might change your views if you are open to it, i can put send them to your inbox? I don’t consider myself a black revolutionary because that would imply that I don’t empathize with the struggle of all other races. I would in an imaginitary framestate and on occasion consider myself a revolutionary of the people, but not a revolutionary of one race of people.

You know what, this guy just might be genuine. He’s right, only a white person can address white supremecy in his own community, as opposed to the usual code of silence and business as usual. He touched on a very valid point of the election of a black president. The fact that black people would be so googly eyed over a black president that our gullable %%$es would not see the real hidden agenda behind him being elected. picture this…In the minds of grass roots racist who vote and many who do not ordinarily vote, the worst thing that could happen to america is a black president who actually does something to lift up the black community. They created this in Obama’s healthcare agenda. Now, they think they are rebels with a cause, and they will use this black man, whom they’ve called everything but a terrorist, to motivate all of those back woods mutants, to come out in droves and dominate key political positions in local,federal,and state government. So yes, if he wanna teach his own that their way is the highway to hell, then let him play moses for his people, but he’s right to not try and teach mine about the atrocities they have suffered at the hands of his people.

Malcolm X this, Malcolm X that. I hope no one here seriously thinks Malcolm X is the beginning and the end of the Civil Rights movement? History lesson. In 1854 the Republican Party, yes I said Republican Party, was founded by White people who thought slavery was a crock of feces and wanted to abolish it. In 1860 when they finally took office with Lincoln, fear of slaves being free to roam around and do exactly to the White man and his woman what they’d been doing to Blacks for years, caused the South to split. White people later died left and right for causes to make Blacks and Whites equal. Do you think a White person was forced to walk into a restaurant and sit at a Whites Only counter with a Black person? They did that because they thought something was effed up with a White Supremacist country. Pro-Black Revolutionaries. If a White person is practically going to give their lives up to ensure I can walk down the street without looking down every time I see another White person then respect is granted.

You won’t find any of this stuff in your school History book and you definitely won’t hear it coming out of Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson’s mouth. Go to the library and get your history on.

white people are the key to real equality. we cant force whites to treat us equally but still hate us. we should be happy that there are whites fighting for equality for all.
one of my best friends is white and she has a lot of white friends who used to be racist. they no longer are because they love and respect her, and they love and respect whoever she loves. we all party together now. a couple years ago they were using the n word, now they are sharing their homes with black folks. that shows what difference just one white person can make. she changed a whole group of people.
im wit it.

you know it,s funny how fast black people want to love up on white folks, you keep talking all this junk about white folks helping black people get their right,s, and freedom what ever that mean, but yall seem to forget it,was whitey that took away your right,s and so called freedom in the first place it,s like when america bombed the hell of other countries then they come back and try to look like the good guys and rebuild the country back but, s**t they were the ones that blew it up in the first place so it only come down to is whitey correcting whitey,s wrong so they don,t get no high five from me i don,t forget where it all started and i don,t have no damn white friends.

You know what I see here is a man who is a real straight up revolutionary who has dedicated his life to doing what he can to fight racism and inequalities because he has a true commitment to equal rights for all. I think it is major bulls**t that you want to diss him for standing up for his commitment to equal rights just because he’s not black. That is the same kind of bigoted mentality that made white people dehumanize black people and use them as slaves in the first place. What I see here are black people who want to send a ‘cracka’ to the back of the bus. It is the concept of racial superiority that created slavery in the first place so all you people who want to diss my homeboy Monte have more in common with white racists than you think.

Monte is as real as you get and if you want to write off what he’s done for black activism just for being white then you are a bigot, just like a f**king neo-nazi bonehead with dark skin.

Peace.
~AK47~

monte has created quite a stir here, i see.

i am the “upper class negro” mentioned in “odoggz” comments. i’m trying to stay away from responding to such things…but in the interest of setting some things straight i feel compelled to reply.

you know…it’s hard to talk to black people sometimes because we tend to be very hung up on issues of color and class. not moreso than other ethnicities…but it harms us more as a community.

times like this, when i am faced with undue, and in this case totally erroneous criticism, i am strengthened by the knowledge that i come from a good, working class stock of people.

people who, like most african-americans, came to exist in these times through the passage of several generations of slavery.

some of us today are wealthy. most of us are not. i am on the side of the latter, due to my family becoming sharecroppers after emancipation.

they sharecropped for a white man with a cruel sense of humor. my family’s house was behind his, the “big house”, on the same land.

often, on hot North Carolina days, my mom’s great-grandma, “Ma”, would send her to the store to fetch her a Pepsi. my mom, around 10 at the time, would have to pass the big house on her way to the store.

the white man had a parrot on his porch. and a dog on a very long leash at the side of the house. you see, the white man was so cruel, he trained the parrot to speak – to the dog.

so when my mom, and other people who looked like her would come near the house, the parrot would speak, loudly, and say…

“N****r! Sic ‘em!…N****r! Sic ‘em!” over and over…causing the dog to chase my mom, while she, frightened, heart pounding and young…heard that word hurled at her by an animal no less over and over again.

ok this story has nothing to do with this interview. on the surface. but it’s just my very long way of saying…

we, whether rich or poor, black or white…who agree that *all* humanity must be respected and allowed to live full, whole lives, are of the same struggle.

should we really put our energies into shooting the messenger? because when you’re speaking on the internet, you run into all kinds of people who have an image of you…that’s often just that. an image.

it can be harmful to make assumptions about anyone’s background and/or motivations in life…i think it best to sometimes just speak on things you *know*, not things you *think*.

and if anyone wants to know where this half black/filipino girl who grew up so poor that she used to share a can of sardines with her single mom for a whole day’s meal *really* comes from…just reach out and get to know me.

you can find me here: heavymentalist dot com & on thelastnerve dot com

peace
-cherryl252washere

Wow at some of the comments here….

Smittytva, 1st of all, there are indeed occurences where America has been called on to help other countries. And there’s been times when America’s foreign policy has been shameful. Of course that changes with the Presidents…

As for your comments about “whitey”…not all “whiteys” hated blacks and pushed for the same things you’re talking. Somewhere in the world today a white baby was born…is that white baby terrible and hateful for being white? Did you choose to be black? What if there are indeed whites that care about human rights? You’re just going to shun them because their white? Even when that person may have had nothing to do with what happened in the past?

Das_Blaq..the Republican party of then is the Democratic party of today. LOL and _A_ even I knew that was a Malcolm X quote. I also read his letter to Mecca…it always grabs me because it shows Malcolm was a man capable of reason and being objective

Anyway as for this…it’s funny, just because you’re black doesn’t mean you care about issues…and just because you’re white doesn’t mean you can’t care. There are people who are human rights activists and care about all people

It’s like when Stokey Carmichael kicked out all the whites out of the SNCC despite their desire to help with the Civil Rights cause. If some of them want to help…how does it make sense to not let them? How can you call all of them these dirty names like devils when you deny any of them from helping? As if people choose to be born white..or as if you chose to be born black. It’s ignorance at its best

A representative yes and thats about it

Can a white person be a pro-black revolutionary? This question is simple to answer especially when it is asked in reference to Monte Smith. In these times the struggle should be color blind because the struggle has not been about color for some time. It has been an economical struggle since the fall of the Black Panther Party. As a matter of fact the BPP welcomed alliances with white activists, such as the Students for a Democratic Society (SDS) and later the Weather Underground, because they believed that all revolutionaries that wanted to change U.S. society should unite across racial lines. Bob Avakian was a white member of the Black Panther Party, that clearly answers the question.
The White Panthers were a far left, anti-racist, White American political collective founded in 1968 by Lawrence Plamondon, Leni Sinclair, and John Sinclair. It was started in response to an interview where Huey P. Newton, co-founder of the Black Panther Party, was asked what white people could do to support the Black Panthers. Newton replied that they could form a White Panther Party. The group took the name and dedicated its energies to “cultural revolution.” Sinclair made every effort to ensure that the White Panthers were not mistaken for a white supremacist group, responding to such claims with “quite the contrary.” The party worked with many ethnic minority rights groups in the Rainbow Coalition.
Monte Smith is the real deal. As we say in the streets real recognises real so if you don’t recognize Monte Smith as a true revolutionary you are obviously a part of the problem and not the solution. Monte’s poems and writings are a must read by everyone no matter the color of skin. In these times there is no room for racial divide, it’s time for unity. The poor, the oppressed and repressed must come together and once and for all stand up against all injustices. Mao Tse-tung wrote “A Single Spark Can Start a Prairie Fire” when it comes to revolution. Well I believe Monte Smith is that spark.
Peace, Love and Progress, till victory. “X”

Everyone should be pro-humanity, pro-individual freedom revolutionaries.

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of course but he gotta 100% true to wat he sayin n what he has been thru n seen.

The question is answered by answering this question. “Does truth know color?”.

Once you look at it from that perspective, you listen to the words and don’t look at the color.

If you look at the color, even for a moment, it changes how you see the words.

I mean obviously if you took someone’s words and showed them to someone, they would obviously agree or disagree, depending upon their beliefs about whatever subject.

But with a racist, those views change, depending upon the race, to whatever degree they see race as a factor of impacting their life.

It’s just obvious and simple. You’re either a racist who bases their opinion of social issues on race.

If you truly value truth and justice, then race has no impact upon who may speak and about what….

LOL

@Shipper and whoever else. That was not a Malcolm X quote I was actually quoting Khalid Abdul Muhammad. I did take it upon myself to paraphrase a bit, even though I know the full and exact quote. Go check it takes a Nation of Millions to hold us back by PE. I know this, because I have the tape in which this was sampled, but that’s neither here nor there. Not sure how this makes me a fool, but you post clearly illustrates why whites CAN’T BE PRO BLACK. They don’t know what the meaning of being black is, just like I can’t be pro Asian or anything else. HOWEVER, that’s not to say I can’t or shouldn’t respect other people. Shipper, the day I need you to refer me to literature of ANY kind, is the day I will know that I’m surely lost. Thanks by no thanks. I have read all the negro and white supremacist literature to last me 4 lifetimes. One of the biggest problems with white people is, damn near EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU FEELS COMPELLED TO TELL BLACK PEOPLE HOW THEY SHOULD THINK AND THEREFORE REACT. It makes me laugh to be honest. Newsflash to Shipper. No one really cares how YOU think, so they certainly aren’t concerned about how you feel others should think either.

As far as wise words, I exclusively read and/or listen to black elders who have critically analyzed this subject of blackness and offer their views. I may not always agree, but I can always find something valuable to take away. With respect to you calling me a fool, I wouldn’t expect anything less from you, but please understand, white people CAN’T insult or hurt my feelings in the slightest. I have come to understand that this is part of your makeup, so getting mad at you for displaying beast like behavior, would be tantamount to me getting mad at a dog for barking. Therefore, I just don’t hold ANY of you in such regard, that I could be hurt by a thing you have to say. I know I know, you’re going to tell me that’s ignorant, or foolish, or silly or whatever term you can come up with, but this line of thinking has served me well. Look at me. I will turn 44 next month, and I can still easily pass for 30. No stress! working out 6 days a week, on a vegan diet, free of sugar and limited flour products. Just got a raving review from my doctor for my last comprehensive physical exam. My company just started a HUGE contract as of Mar 1st and things are progressing along nicely. I’m in top shape physically and mentally. Now ask yourself, do I sound like I need advice from you?

By the way. I actually just broke my own self imposed edict, when I responded to you. just wanted to get that out there. I will go back to my stance of not replying to you. Have a good day..

What was John Brown, he gave his life to to emancipate black people from slavery.

That’s all good to give the benefit of a doubt, but don’t come off as if you’re some kind of great white savior of the black race, because we know there is no such thing.Never has, and never will. The least white people can do to save themselves from the wrath of yah is to teach his own that you are not the decendents of the hebrew israelites of which the covenant is made with yah the most high.Therefore,it is insane to be against us and risk what… your soul to eternal damnation. So, having said that,this guy is samrt enough to know that he’s doing this more for his own soul rather than for justice for modern day black Hebrews in America.If you really wanna make a difference then pay us for the centries of free labor my people provided to build america, and the millions of people we lost on the way here on the slave ships. yOU can start there if you wanna begin to correct any injustices to the hebrews of America.

_A_

My first quote was from Malcolm actually and if you can’t see how that connects to what you wrote than once again there’s no need for me to adress it. With respect to the whole fool thing, I believe you actually started the whole thing and once again flipped it on me when i responded.

Two of your quotes: “As far as wise words, I exclusively read and/or listen to black elders who have critically analyzed this subject of blackness and offer their views” along with ” I have come to understand that this is part of your makeup, so getting mad at you for displaying beast like behavior, would be tantamount to me getting mad at a dog for barking.”

If I said that to you I probably would have been called a racist or a biggot. I don’t really put people in racial categories such as your self and associate on a personal level with people of latino, black, white, and indian background. I actually probably associate with more black than white people but thats not really relevant. Therefore it seems more like you are the racist here because you choose your literature based on the author’s race, and it seems like you choose your personal relationships based on that as well. Do you have any non black friends, the answer seems pretty self evident but I’ll ask anyway? It also seems like you choose to concentrate on specific parts of the literature you read that makes you satisfied without even examening the entire message. It’s a bit sad that you dont even understand your own peoples’ writings. If you are exclusively reading black authors or white authors you are not really a well rounded individual and cannot really get a grasp of how the world works. You can continue to marvel at the review from your doctor, but it’s pretty evident he overlooked the psychological and intellectual part of your brain which seems to be developing at a pace similiar to the development of benjamin button.

First, the headline for this article is very misguiding and misleading.

“Can A White Person Be A Pro-Black Revolutionary?”

Monte Smith does not every come off as such. He speaks on the truth of race and racism but he does not think for one second that he is the white savior to the black race. If you are black and you diss this guy you need ya damn head examined.

I see people on here saying that they are closer to GOD because of there skin color. Straight out the Klan handbook. Its funny how the devil can trick you into thinking and acting like him.

I see people on here talking about his wife and kids and talking s**t at that. Say what ever about Monte you wish, he welcomes it but to let his family into the s**t is not taken lightly. what I am saying is Watch ya mouth f**kface, there is a line you dont cross even on the internet. I have personally known him and his family for 20 years. We are revolutionaries weather you believe it or not and our backbone is not to be tested. The Big lie about the internet is that you can hide behind it, keep fooling yourself and typing dumbs**t. Here I will type it for you “F**K MONTE SMITH”, thats cool but leave his wife and kids out. Its apparent that you dont have children, or if you do you do not love them cause if you did you would know that a REAL MAN will do anything and we many anything to protect and defend our children and that is why you keep them out ya f**king mouth. cant believe I have had to sit down tonight and type that s**t.

Check the people who are willing to stand in solidarity with Monte Smith. If you are still willing to diss him after reading this list of people then ya dumbass and it dont matter no way. you are part of what we are out to destroy and remove from our social fabric. Move b***h and get out the way!

The names below are just a few of the people who are standing in solidarity with Monte Smith.
Real is Real is Real.

SAM GREENLEE – Author of The Spook Who Sat By The Door
MUMIA ABU-JAMAL – Author, Journalist, Unjustly incarcerated political prisoner
Chuck D – Public Enemy
Capitol X
A.I.M

DID anyone listen to the interview before they begin to type s**t?

Last but not least, Everyone please read Capitol X’s post. He nailed it.

peace love respect

perionne27,man you,re one straigtht up uncle tom,i can tell you one thing, whitey got a friend in you,you should take off and go to a white web site but, then again i guest they need you on this black web site to watch their back you keep it up now white folks need you.

As i listen to this i realize this white dude tryin to make a name for himself in some way. If ya’ll don’t know this whites love attention, and they don’t have to worry bout being punished like MLK cuz they are white.

This dude just want to be quoted. He don’t really care bout race struggles but only what that struggle can do for him and his poetry.

He’s just another Eminem using black culture to become famous.

I was reading TheRealJohnBrown13′s comment and i realized Monte Smith’s plan is working. If ppl like SAM GREENLEE, MUMIA ABU-JAMAL, Chuck D, Capitol X and A.I.M are backing him as TheRealJohnBrown13 implys then he is well on his way.

The same way Eminem used black rappers to get street credibility.

And before long the white media will use his white image to make him the savior we owe our freedom to while blacks like SAM GREENLEE, MUMIA ABU-JAMAL, Chuck D, Capitol X and A.I.M are pushed into background and out of Monte Smith’s spotlight.

“but please understand, white people CAN’T insult or hurt my feelings in the slightest. I have come to understand that this is part of your makeup, so getting mad at you for displaying beast like behavior, would be tantamount to me getting mad at a dog for barking. Therefore, I just don’t hold ANY of you in such regard, that I could be hurt by a thing you have to say.”

Dayum _A_ !!
thats the shlt…lmmfao….the truth a mufuker _A_ you aint have 2 do em like that! and look at Ms McCalla tryin 2 swith it up but I see posted a convo between R Paul and G Beck and maatra posted that link more than 2months ago! sorry azz gossip columnist

@blknall
I agree with you on the whole piggyback process…..thats my thought exactly
when I see one of these mufukers start goin at it ina REAL WAY instead of lip service…fuk lip service give me Body English! then he MAY get a skeptical nod from me
I feel they moles anyway…..it’s not their plight 2 fight so why get involved? 2 spew rhetoric? because no mufuker kkkracka has put any work in(ACTION!) this aint “tell me something good” its put yo LIFE on the line and then I’ll believe you…..see what happens when the S..H..I..T hit the fan….pressure bust pipes…….I wanna hear a white mufuker give me a good azz speach I’ll turn on Obama’s white side or go 2 Church and listen 2 a negropeon

BETTER YET
lets cover historical events of white folk helpin black folk get sum free’dum….besides Hollywood

only thing I can think of is the 3 Jew boys that got killed in 1960something
uhmmm….Mutulu Shakur white folk that assisted him but they turned FED on him….

now here is some white folk that helped us also

Ronald Reagan with his reaganomics and helpin kill BPP
Bill Clinton ignorin the Sudanese durin the Raping of the motherland hence Blood Diamonds
J Timberlake sayin he was innocent pullin Janet tiddie out and she got all the blame….he played the white boy role
I can go on and on like Badu with this shlt but why bother

BOTTOM LINE!

My interest for US has no others involved….we have A mass amount of work 2 do!! no need 4 any outside sources 2 help or 2 aid & assist our Plight…we must take up the critical and extreme task 2 kill our Social status worldwide!

this guy has qouted that he is only interested in helping white people kill white supremacy within themselves….so he directly says that US puttin in work will not garnish any Valuable Output.
He stated that the “only way 2 end white supremacy is through changin white folk mentality”…..now this comin from A white boy riddled with KKK propoganda….he egotistically incites his views and it goes over your mental receptors…..and this mentality has not changed in ?????Years?????

it’s true MR_NANASTROKER, he isn’t really concerned about people more than his fame. This has been done many times before from Elvis to Eminem. As i listen to the interview he said “I” and “my” more times than i could count.

He also says he got bloody at Klan rallies. This shows he isn’t part of the struggle as we HAVE to be becuz we get hung. They are holding back on him becuz he is white.

The fact that he is promoting his poetry on the backs of our oppression is sickining, but you really couldn’t expect any better of white people.

I have to ask blacks like Perionne27, how could you expect a person from a race of people who’ve killed, enslaved, raped and oppressed to build themselves up to really do any good? Blacks like you have a very well intended case of stockholm syndrome.

Smittytva….ahhh…I was waiting for that typical “Uncle Tom” response..it’s what radicals like you use whenever we’re not repeating the same shyt you are

Question Smitty…if I’m an “Uncle Tom”..why is it that on many many occasions I’ve gotten into debates with white supremacists/racists? I even once went on a white racist website JUST to challenge their ignorance and logic and highlight their stupidity, and of course I was banned/kicked off…but the point is..you’re full of it. I hate racism/discrimination period. Until you can justify hating someone because of skin color…or Proving to me that you chose to be born black..then you have no argument

It always amazes me how quick some of you are willing to label others without a clue as to what they represent. Instead of countering my points and showing you have some level of intellect, you resorted to BS

GOD AND THE KKK GO HAND IN HAND

perionne27, who,re you suppose to be the savior of man kind, man your love of whites is a bunch of bull s**t, i don,t walk around with love in my eyes i walk around looking at the truth, looking at how people really are and, i sure as hell don,t have time walking around trying to pick out what white person is a good white person and, which one is not because, white folks are really not that important enough for me to care what they are, or how thay feel about blacks, i could really care less but, i see you want to pick though the little to find ol good white folks i tell you one thing ,if their are good white folks as you say the bad one are damn sure beating them out don,t believe it turn on your television,or listen to any news out there and you tell me where are the good ones because all i see is racism on the rise,i don,t see no loving i ,m a f**king realist i don,t have time for no fake love bull s**t.

a better question would be…

can a ‘Black’ person be ANTI-Revolutionary ???

Never have I witnessed such sincere hospitality and overwhelming spirit of true brotherhood as is practiced by people of all colors and races here in this Ancient Holy Land, the home of Abraham, Muhammad and all the other Prophets of the Holy Scriptures. For the past week, I have been utterly speechless and spellbound by the graciousness I see displayed all around me by people of all colors.
I have been blessed to visit the Holy City of Mecca. I have made my seven circuits around the Ka’ba, led by a young Mutawaf named Muhammad. I drank water from the well of the Zam Zam. I ran seven times back and forth between the hills of Mt. Al-Safa and Al-Marwah. I have prayed in the ancient city of Mina, and I have prayed on Mt. Arafat.
There were tens of thousands of pilgrims, from all over the world. They were of all colors, from blue-eyed blonds to black-skinned Africans. But we were all participating in the same ritual, displaying a spirit of unity and brotherhood that my experiences in America had led me to believe never could exist between the white and non-white.
America needs to understand Islam, because this is the one religion that erases from its society the race problem. Throughout my travels in the Muslim world, I have met, talked to, and even eaten with people who in America would have been considered ‘white’–but the ‘white’ attitude was removed from their minds by the religion of Islam. I have never before seen sincere and true brotherhood practiced by all colors together, irrespective of their color.
You may be shocked by these words coming from me. But on this pilgrimage, what I have seen, and experienced, has forced me to re-arrange much of my thought-patterns previously held, and to toss aside some of my previous conclusions. This was not too difficult for me. Despite my firm convictions, I have always been a man who tries to face facts, and to accept the reality of life as new experience and new knowledge unfolds it. I have always kept an open mind, which is necessary to the flexibility that must go hand in hand with every form of intelligent search for truth.
During the past eleven days here in the Muslim world, I have eaten from the same plate, drunk from the same glass, and slept in the same bed (or on the same rug)–while praying to the same God–with fellow Muslims, whose eyes were the bluest of blue, whose hair was the blondest of blond, and whose skin was the whitest of white. And in the words and in the actions in the deeds of the ‘white’ Muslims, I felt the same sincerity that I felt among the black African Muslims of Nigeria, Sudan, and Ghana.
We were truly all the same (brothers)–because their belief in one God had removed the white from their minds, the white from their behavior, and the white from their attitude.
I could see from this, that perhaps if white Americans could accept the Oneness of God, then perhaps, too, they could accept in reality the Oneness of Man–and cease to measure, and hinder, and harm others in terms of their ‘differences’ in color.
With racism plaguing America like an incurable cancer, the so-called ‘Christian’ white American heart should be more receptive to a proven solution to such a destructive problem. Perhaps it could be in time to save America from imminent disaster–the same destruction brought upon Germany by racism that eventually destroyed the Germans themselves.
Each hour here in the Holy Land enables me to have greater spiritual insights into what is happening in America between black and white. The American Negro never can be blamed for his racial animosities–he is only reacting to four hundred years of the conscious racism of the American whites. But as racism leads America up the suicide path, I do believe, from the experiences that I have had with them, that the whites of the younger generation, in the colleges and universities, will see the handwriting on the walls and many of them will turn to the spiritual path of truth–the only way left to America to ward off the disaster that racism inevitably must lead to.
Never have I been so highly honored. Never have I been made to feel more humble and unworthy. Who would believe the blessings that have been heaped upon an American Negro? A few nights ago, a man who would be called in America a ‘white’ man, a United Nations diplomat, an ambassador, a companion of kings, gave me his hotel suite, his bed. … Never would I have even thought of dreaming that I would ever be a recipient of such honors–honors that in America would be bestowed upon a King–not a Negro.
All praise is due to Allah, the Lord of all the Worlds.
Sincerely,
El-Hajj Malik El-Shabazz
(Malcolm X)

Totally agree with blknall. Although I must admit I did not listen to a single phrase the man spoke, even in poetic verse. I clicked stop to keep from having to listen to the book pump. A good book,don’t need no pump.

MLK, never needed a pump. All he had to do was announce where he was speaking.

For some reason Capital_X I don’t see any culture as being necessarily superior because people will share their meals or give their hotel suites and say nice things to you.

I’d much rather hear about the incidence of crime, rate of poverty, rate of jobs creation,rate of high school and college graduates and so forth. That, is MODERN culture and in modern times, how it must be evaluated.

You can go anywhere in the world and have been able to go anywhere in the world for a long time and be welcomed as a stranger.

But in all of those places, for the most part, unless you brought along with you some means of support, you’d need to move on eventually.

For there were none of those things I mentioned for those who didn’t truly belong….

LOL

Stockholm Syndrome. Nice reference Mr_NanaStroker. It’s so subtle, yet so powerful, one very rarely knows he is afflicted with it, because people don’t properly understand it. It’s a mind killer and this is why when POW’s come back, they have to go through months of debriefing sessions. Dr. Francis Cress Wesling breaks this down so lovely. She speaks about when she goes and speaks to a mixed audience and talks about the mental aspect of slavery, and how it lingers on and on, there will always be one black who will stand up and attack her in DEFENSE of the whites in the audience as if it were their duty to do so. This is not natural. See, many of these so called whites in HERE talking this “can’t we all get along” b.s. would keep their mouth shut tight, if they were among a bunch of whites expressing hatred towards blacks. No, they want to come here and tell people how they should think, what they should read, and how they should act. Spare me that bull sh!t. Can you imagine a sick person telling you how to be healthy? Foolishness. If you blacks want to align yourself, and make allies with your enemy, that’s fine with me, I could care less, but I laugh at you, when you try to tell me, that I should think more like you. This is a 10min excerpt of an enlightening speech. It pretty much wraps up my feelings on the situation, and why I feel the way that I do.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFv2GUQ7G0Y

I posted the letter by Malcolm X because of the truth it contained. After Malcolm returned from the Holy City of Mecca he was prepared to expose the truth, that we are all brothers and sisters. He was killed because he was going to expose the truth. I love Malcolm X and everything he stood for with all my heart. I was given the name “X” while serving time on Rikers Island in New York. I was obsessed with reading everything I could get my hands on about Malcolm. It was the Muslim brothers that started calling me “X”. They would drag me around to different brothas to quiz me. They found humor in the fact that I new so much about Malcolm…more than most blacks that was on my cell block.
See, I on this message board as I have in many situations throughout my life find myself caught in the middle, between a rock and a hard place if you will. See I am Puerto Rican, not black as someone below said. Being Puerto Rican I can not deny the European blood that runs through my veins, but neither can I deny the African blood that runs through my veins along with the Native Arawak Indian blood which is the combination that makes up being Puerto Rican. I too have caught the same hell Monte is catching here. I guess that is why we found each other within this struggle. We understand each other and we understand the struggle. We study it, we live it, eat it, drink it, piss it and sh#t it. I myself have been accused of using the struggle to launch a career. Let me tell you, it is impossible to fake what Monte Smith does and is about. He puts his life on the F#@king line because he believes in the plight of not just blacks, but of all poor people and all oppressed people. Drive through rural Texas and Alabama you think only blacks have it tough? Capitalism sees no color my peoples, it will eat up it’s own white, black, brown, red or yellow. This brotha gives a f&#k, what part of that is not understood? I rap, he’s a poet but we don’t do this for the cash…we do it for the change. Let me sell a million Cd’s you’ll see me start up programs like the Panthers back in the day and I know Monte would do the same, but nah, people rather support Lil Wayne who runs around with $250,000 worth of jewels in his mouth.
It’s insanity to me for anyone who knows what it is to struggle to speak against this man in any way. He isn’t Elvis, and he’s not Emenem. I hate to take it to the ledge, but it sounds to me as if some people on here are threatened, not by the color of his skin but by his intelligence. This brotha has educated himself in a way that our public schools fail to do. It has nothing to do with being the great white hope or the white saviour of black people, it’s about all poor people. To build a society that civilized, we need to come together. We need to break down this color barrier separating us like the Berlin Wall.

“Settle your quarrels, come together, understand the reality of our situation, understand that fascism is already here, that people are dying who can be saved, that generations more will die or live poor butchered half-lives if you fail to act. Do what must be done, discover your humanity and your love in revolution. Pass on the torch. Join us, give up your life for the people”.
-George L Jackson

XL_611 it’s not about any culture being superior it is about all people coming together. All people. I am not Muslim, it don’t matter what I am. The point was that with a shared belief, a common goal, we can come together. Malcolm spoke of this possibility in terms of the Muslims. I and I think I can speak for Monte talk about the same possibility as Malcolm but within the struggle here in America against racism, poverty, oppression, repression, and slavery which is still alive and well within the prison industrial complex.

How can muslim culture speak everyone “coming together”, when everyone is a muslim? That’s not coming together. That’s everyone doing the same thing, the same way, in or as of, a single mind.

And it is about cultural superiority. That’s what Malcom was talking about. Muslim culture, to his mind and perceptions, were better, or superior, to what he found in America.

You can be whatever you want in this world. There a Black people blacker than the blackest black people that will join the Klan in a heartbeat. Of course a white person could be a Pro-Black Revolutionary. I can push 80 into oncoming traffic with my eyes closed, that don’t mean it’s the smart thing to do. Let’s say a revolution popped off and all white people are killed except for the Pro-Black white guy… Do you think he’s gonna get spared????? That’s what I thought.

There is nothing I can add to Capital_X’s statement below. The truth is the truth. All personal perceptions of it are just that. Personal.

Sure some would agree to disagree and that is an individuals right. When they say “The revolution will not be televised” it also means that some unlikely people are quietly going about the business of bucking the status quo.

Can a white person be pro-black revolutionary? I prefer can a white person look past color and see you as a fellow human being? Yes. A thousand times yes.

Someone said, “oh, but when they’re with other whites who’re talking sh*t about blacks they’d be quiet” and I say, then you obviously have never had a white person go to bat for you. I have. I wasn’t even there but true light can not hide. So I can say yes.

People live their lives, breathe in breathe out…go with the flow. Very few open their eyes and decide to march to their own beat and do something different and worthwhile with their time on this earth. To put their very lives on the line.

XL_611 How can Muslim culture speak everyone “coming together”, when everyone is a Muslim? The same as everyone can speak of “coming together” when everyone no matter their color is human. My brotha, Malcolm was talking most importantly about realizing we were all of the same cloth. The racism born and bred in America didn’t exist over seas where he was and he was dumbfounded. I don’t care where you go or what culture you find it in, if there is a lack of racism it is better or superior to what is found here in America. Have you ever been out of America? Cause my brotha I have and I know America is far from being the best country in the world. The concept is beautiful but it has yet to manifest and what is being said here by many is proof that we are still a long ways away from seeing the concept of America manifest.

One more thing to remember: Malcolm X did not speak for ALL black people. Martin Luther King did not speak for ALL black people. Gandhi did not speak for ALL Indians. Jesus Christ did not speak to ALL Jews.

My point is this, this man’s words do not have to speak to your inner being for them to be taken lightly.

Like i said, the truth IS the truth. But not everyone can understand it.

Well, there might be a lack of racism in other countries, but there are just as many other forms of social and civil rights discrimination to balance the equation. In fact, in those respects America would certainly come out ahead.

We’ve probably done more in this country to end all forms of illegitimate forms of discrimination than any other society in history, and certainly in a much shorter period of time.

It’s just laughable that to give a man a little bit of food, some kind words and a nice hotel room, he’s convinced that America has been put to some sort of shame….

LMAO

Please! I think not

@ Capital_X
I read ur post and unless ur empathic r psychic u wouldn’t know what this man is planning. I heard the interview and what i heard was self promotion.

You, being Puerto Rican and him being White, may know Malcolm X’s work but we as black people know his life on a level you and Monte will never know. Unlike the both of u, we are black. You only read Malcolm’s words but you can’t relate to them like an African-American can.

You, being who u are, standing beside Monte means nothing becuz for one Monte was born white and he has lived as a white person and just becuz he claims to be an activist now doesn’t change that, becuz u see we were born into a struggle…with white people.

To my people i ask that u be suspicious of his motives becuz whites don’t give up their sense of superiority for nothing. The same way our ppl have a slave mentality they have one too but theirs is to be “Massa” and u can quote me on that.
Just think of the resent Hollywood hits and u’ll see what they mean to be in our lives.

blknall you think I don’t know Malcolm in the way a black person does? My brotha, what drew me to Malcolm was how similar or lives were. Both dropped out of school in the eighth grade. Both hustled in New York on the same streets, smoking and selling weed, steeling and pimping our woman and I ended up in prison just like he did. When I learned all this and how he turned it around and educated himself it inspired me to do the same. I my not know exactly how if feels to be darker skinned, but I know what it feels like to be called a spic as the night stick is cracking my skull. Done 13 years in the white mans prison. You think I can’t relate to being a slave? I been in shackles and chains. I was stripped of my identity my name was replaced by a number, I was forced to work and when I refused, I was beaten and thrown in the hole. I can relate to slavery my brotha.
If you know history, Puerto Ricans ain’t have it easy either and we stood with the Panthers fighting for liberation, independence, and justice (The Young Lords) and many more. I can relate to Malcolm just as you or any one. Before the plight of the Africans my people were enslaved and slaughtered by Christopher Columbus. When they near killed all my people off they then brought in the Africans to work the Island. My grandmother was of African decent so don’t play that I don’t know what struggle is. My life has been and still is a fu#king struggle. I lived in ghettos for a good part of my life, Bed Stuy Brooklyn born, South Bronx, Southward Newark, and the South Side of Birmingham Alabama. As for Monte it is the same. He may be white but that doesn’t mean he doesn’t know what struggle is, or what oppression is, you don’t know what the man has been through. You think cause you white you instantly got it easy? Self promotion no, promotion of his work yes. He wrote a book filled with truth and inspiration, with hope and solutions, that’s a lot more than I can say for a lot of people. Should he give it away? He near does, but you can’t hate because he trying to make money to put back into the struggle. I know first hand that fighting in the struggle don’t make you rich. And if you heard the full interview than you must of heard all the support and praise Monte’s work has received from pillars in the black community and in the struggle, what do you have to say about that? So you telling me that your opinion of Monte means more than Bruce George, Chuck D or Mumia Abu Jamal? Please. I’m old school, but not an old fool, I recognize the real deal and I will stand with Monte no problem. You want to talk on a fake mutha fu#ka that’s really all about self promotion and making money, go crack on Jay Z who could give a fu#k about his own people. I don’t know why I even fed into your ignorant azz statement word up. Not all whites keep a sense of superiority and not all blacks keep a slave mentality. That is an ignorant statement.

Capital_X i sympathize with u i really do, but that doesn’t change the fact that Monte is white. Regardless of his financial status, he is still white. Just becuz he seems to have made the decision to fight now he could at any moment become the enemy. We don’t have that luxury, becuz we can’t drop out of being black.

I don’t trust his motives, becuz things don’t add up. Too many questions, too much at stake. It would be foolish of me to take his side just becuz Bruce George, Chuck D or Mumia Abu Jamal have the same if i listen to Eminem becuz Dr. Dre, Snoop Dogg and 50 cent said too. I may not be as old as u but i’m not dumb.

I listened and like i said i heard self promotion. He doesn’t move me he makes me suspect.

I’m in tune with ppl like Dr. Ray Higgans, and Frances Cress Welsing. Monte being white means he is biased. He won’t go in on his race like a person who has truely been persecuted becuz he has an IMAGE to maintain. I want to hear him say “My people” and give in great detail the horror his people has inflicted on other races. Unless he can do that, i will stand by my statement of him using the black struggle to gain his own fame and glory.

He is still only a man and a White man at that. If it comes to gaining wealth and continuing to fight along side us, i would bet my life he takes the money and puts those ideas behind him.

REPEAT: Just becuz he seems to have made the decision to fight now he could at any moment become the enemy. We don’t have that luxury, becuz we can’t drop out of being black.

Nicely put Blknall. This is the thing these guys don’t understand, all he has to do is replace his sagging jeans with a brooks bros. suit, take the fitted off and get a haircut, and can easily start for the opposing team. This is why they will never be able to relate to being black. Were not talking about ghetto life. There are black millionaires that still get treated like nigs if they fck around and put on a white t shirt, a yankee hat and some nikes. Don’t even have to look thugged out by hood standards, but will and can be treated as such, at any given time from those who see us as all the same. This is the thing most whites can’t absorb. No matter how much we attain, to what rung of the social ladder we climb, we can never escape our blackness. But in spite of all that, I wouldn’t trade this beautiful black skin for nothing in the world…I LOVE BEING BLACK!!!!!

@ _A_
I also love being black. Regardless of how dark i am, my skin isn’t metaphorically stained with the blood of the original people of the earth. Science proves that to be true.

A_A_ et al

Wow. That mentality is amazing. An analogy would be a white guy saying “hey, see Obama, Farrakhan, or any other black leader is just another black guy/n****r…all you’ve got to do is switch their suits and put them in prison jumpsuits and or baggy jeans and white tees and bingo!”

What you are saying is very very ridiculous.

About the struggle being uniquely black, I hear you but you are still missing a key point. You are black, but have you been to prison? Have you personally been called out by your name? Have you been beat on by the police for no good reason? Have you been in chains?

If Capital_X has been through all that, he is our brother in this because while it is our heritage because our fathers and grandfathers went through it and because some of our own are still going through it, he has also been down the same road.

Are we going to tell fellow travellers on the same road, on the same journey to cross the road and walk on the other side cos they aren’t black?

Anyone that says that is no different from a cracker.

@blknall. I feel you..The quote about my skin was personal, but blackness is a state of mind.

@blaque_thot, you really think it’s ridiculous. Go ask Andrew Young if it’s ridiculous when he was coming out of an Atlanta Hotel one morning, when he was the ambassador to the UN, and a white couple proceeded to tell them what room they wanted their bags delivered. He said in a speech, that “here I am, the Ambassador to the UN, but to that couple, I was just another n****r” Professor gates recently had that experience. Go read why Johnnie Cochran who was a LA prosecutor, decided to become a defense attorney. There are thousands of examples that could be offered up, and if you still believe they have no merit, then that’s on you.

And please refrain from telling me who our brother is. If you wish to receive him with open arms, that’s your right, but please respect my right, if I decline to do so.

“Just becuz he seems to have made the decision to fight now he could at any moment become the enemy”

So could anyone. You have more black on black violence than you have white on black violence. Black people are killing their own people too. Just because someone is black doesn’t mean they aren’t going to cut you up and just because a person is white doesn’t mean that they are. Moreover black people aren’t the only group that are oppressed so get off this woe is me trip and start fighting for equality instead of perpetrating racial stupidity like the f**king KKK.

This site is like f**king Stormfront for black racial supremacists (apart from an educated few that recognize that racism is bulls**t). All you people that are tripping on Monte aren’t fit to lace that man’s boots and not because your black before you pull the race card on me (because you’re f**king ignorant). I don’t hate on blacks, whites, latinos or anyone else but I do hate on stupidity and bonding by exclusion. I’m glad you all are proud to be black but what difference does it make what color you are when you’re a mindless oxygen thief. You get them in all colors.

Is _A_ for a*****e because you sounds like one. I’m glad not all black people are like some of you a*****es because if they were then I’d be the first to let your white counterparts do whatever to your stoopid asses. I hate racists of all colors. _A_ needs a pistol whipping just as much as Don Black from Stormfront does. They are two sides of the same coin and they are the enemy of progress and peace. F**k em.

@_A_, you are no different from the white people who couldn’t look past skin color…and any other person like that.

Like I said, anyone who can not look past color is worth spit…in my opinion.

We’re ALL coming into this life with what we ALL came here with, the same thing as everyone, a brain, a heart and our things that make up our physical being. What we carry with us is entirely up to us moment to moment and that cannot be denied. We can hold on to the burdens of the past and keep score or we can work with what we have in front of us and try to be objective in our decision making so that we can make accurate decisions.

No doubt the passion of being proud of ones race can be fulfilling the same way the Palestinians struggle to stand up to Israel while their loved ones are blown to pieces from missles manufactured by us. Remember and NEVER forget how much of your OWN personal ego gets fulfilled by spittin with a chip on your shoulder. Its not about your peeps then, its all about YOU. The question is, are you putting as much effort into spreading knowledge and working for repressed peeps as you are as pointing fingers? That goes for everyone.

I’ve been told to piss outside with “all the other mexicans” when I’ve worked in houses painting but that doesnt give me the right to question all whites honesty. Not because I’m ignorant but because I believe if I want to end racism and bigotry, I have to walk the walk. It starts with me. We can ALWAYS question everything anyone does eternally if you truly think you are gaining something by forming a vision of the enemy by making blanket statements. In the end your fight becomes misdirected and a LIE or fake to begin with just like the war on terror. In Monte’s case, hes put more heart and work into fighting injustice as anyone I’ve ever heard or even read about.

In my humble opinion we shouldn’t be trippin on what color someone is who’s helping repressed people, we should be trippin on the bankers who have put us ALL in the situation we’re in. They LOVE to hear us bicker of the ISM’s! We’re tusslin over crumbs while these motherf**kers are coolin out with the whole cake, laughin at our b***h asses while we complain about who’s making us dinner tonight. What a waste of valuable energy.

Damn, I was about to lay my head to rest a bit after a long day of fighting for the brothas and sistas on the row which is what I do, but I decided to take a look and see what was going on up in here and I see the fire is still raging. Ayo _A_ and blknall, it’s obvious you’re standing strong on your opinions so yea go ahead with that, I still got love for you regardless. If I seen police stomping on you somewhere you can bet ya azz I’m coming. Yea I hate the police and do not discriminate. When I put two cops in the ER back in 96, one was white, the other Latino, blue is blue and it’s not the men in truth, it’s the police mentality that I can’t stand. I say this for real from my heart, I love y’all. If you ever make it to one of my shows or lectures, come on up I got a hug for y’all I ain’t clowning either.
As for Monte, one last time in his defense, I never seen him wear baggy jeans or a fitted and he ain’t just make the decision to fight now, he been fighting, he been fighting for a long fu@cking time. Where y’all been at anyway? You think poor white people don’t get persecuted in America? Man they execute whites right along with blacks and Latinos in the US, they don’t give a fu#k. Y’all don’t trust Monte cool then don’t. I know him so, I know he can be trusted. If he ever he crosses over and I can confidently say I know he won’t, ever, but if he did, I’ll put a cap in his azz myself how that sound? But mark my word, I live and will die on the front lines of the struggle and when the $hit hits the fan, and as sure as them prison guards at San Quentin assassinated George L Jackson it will, don’t let me see y’all that’s popping off all up in here run in the opposite direction of where the actions at.
Speaking of George L Jackson, I strongly recommend everyone read his writings. Matter a fact, I’m a sign off with a quote from George, one of the greatest revolutionary minds ever. “When it finally becomes more attractive for one to fight, and perhaps die, than to live in survival mode, revolution starts to become a possibility. Not a riot, not a government takeover by one group or another group, but a people’s revolution led by the politically conscious”. A people’s revolution! Amen to that.

-VNON- that was peace, word up.

Word up X. I hear that s**t. When you’re locked up, the deputies dont give a s**t what color you are. Every color is the wrong color. Its stupid. surenos against the blacks, asians against whites, hell, even paisanos against the surenos. Its all BS. We’re all born with debt to the FED just for having a birth certifcate.

folks who even begin classify themselves and others based on race are obviously not keen to the 21st century and the discoveries it has brought along, and those that are know right away that racial classification is absurd. craniofacial anthropometry (the science of classifying people racially based on structural characteristics in human skull bones), which is the basis of racial classification, is slowly but surely being abandoned as a legitimate scientific study and this is the course science has been taking for some time now, so when someone says that he is white or black, etc., (or in the scientific terms, caucasoid or negroid) he/she is making a statement as illegitimate as a white supremacist saying that you are only two thirds of a person because you are black.

the problem is that people are looking at the issue of race as though it is the real struggle. that is where the slide of hand comes into play. this struggle between white and black is simply an extension of the Willie Lynch model: treat the light-skinned blacks well and treat the dark ones like cattle so that conflict between blacks arises; except in this case, the light-skinned blacks are the whites and the dark-skinned blacks are all black people. this struggle keeps us preoccupied with a fight amongst each other while the bad guy (the bourgeois class) gets away with our freedom. it’s the greatest bank heist of all, except this bank doesn’t secure our money, it secures that which makes us human; it secures our liberty, which these people are stealing from all of us slowly but surely.

we sit and speak of slavery as though it was local to one race at one moment in time and that in every instance, that race was slave to another specific race; that in every case, black slaves were subordinate to white owners. even here in the United States alone this was not the case. people speak of black slavery in the United States and the toil that was involved in their struggle, yet they forget the history of pre-constitutional America. they forget that while there was slavery, a concept also existed that was called “indentured servitude” and that 90% of indentured servants were white. they forget that more than 60% of the early populations of European travelers in the Americas were white indentured servants who had conditions nearly as bad, if not at times as bad, as African slaves. they forget about early revolts like Bacon’s Rebellion where thousands of white servants and black slaves took up arms in battle together in a fight against their masters. not all masters in the history of slavery were white and not all slaves were black, even in the short history of European intervention in America.

i will leave you all on this note:

close your eyes and visualize a red wall and on it, a tag of the word “Freedom” is spray painted twice, once in black and once in white. does one of those pieces have more meaning than the other, or does freedom mean the same thing in both shades?

@Capital-X
Malcolm never uncovered the truths he witnessed when visiting the Pyramids and learned of the KMT…so he was 25% knowledgeable of whom or the full ORIGIN of NILE EMPIRES that CIVILIZED, BIRTHED, GOVERNED, LOVED, INFORMED, TOUGHT, GAVE KEYS OF LIFE 2! these people…..lets not try 2 type and misdirect what is known now compared 2 what was known when Malcolm was telling A. Haley what he experienced

e@-VNON-
I will agree with a percentage of what you spewed
HOWEVER!
The constant back and Forth of evryone wanting 2 have the Strongest comment is really Irrelevant

HERE WE ARE
50+Years later after MLK, Malcolm, Marcus Garvey, BPP told us 2 DO NOT WEAKEN! STAND UP AND BE ACCOUNTED FOR….SOLIDARITY, EACH ONE TEACH ONE!

We let this Media lacky post a dumm azz thread and we go 2 war about a whole lotta nothing!
we will never see eye 2 eye BUT!! we all (I Pray) have one common goal…..and that is 2 flip-flop our status upon this EARTH we embellish, WE OWN! WE LOVE! as our Ancestors once did when they were SOUL PROPRIETORS OF THIS EARTH and the MOTHERLAND

Lets not lose Focus our Agenda is plentiful…..and we are trying 2 crop Harvest on dead soil…..the soil is FILTHY RICH! but we must REVIVE IT!
my analogy is not hard 2 decifer……lets not lose what WE need 2 do
we have our own against us, why add more water in a pot of boiling oil?
no we dont need anymore help from the CIA, FBI, NAACP, RAINBOW PUSH, CHURCHES/MEGA, BACKSTABBING NEGROPEONS, AMERIKKKA, SALVATION ARMY, WALL STREET, BANKING INSTITUTIONS, PEACE CORP, NASA, MEDIA, RADIO, BLASPHEMOUS CURRICULUM, JESUS, KJV BIBLE, OBAMA…..they have done enuff, this is why we are still in a state of disillusion & paranoia

THIS HAS 2 BE A GRASS ROOT EFFORT!

XAK47X if blacks r attacking black then that’s our business. We know we’re not perfect but let us figure out how to handle ourselves not have whites adding insult to injury with a notion of “let me save the poor black ppl from themselves” or “lets just put them all in a cage”.

And at first XAK47X u speak against violence then u say _A_ needs a pistol whipping..HuH?..if that’s the case u need one too.

And to Capital_X, i stand by my opinion of Monte less something changes but i agree with u bout the police. I haven’t been to prison but i have been a victim of their bias nature. No matter what race a police man is he will still take u to the white run jail.

MR NANASTROKER

Interesting moniker by the way. I am not totally clear on the point you were trying to make that was directed at me but please allow me to clarify the point I was trying to make. Malcolm’s experience and life changing epiphany as he accomplished the Hajj is well doc**ented. The discoveries I was referring too first was that Islam according to Elijah Muhammad’s Nation of Islam was not in accordance with Islamic practices in Mecca. He was stunned because he was brought into Islam based on principles of racial hatred and separatism, and beliefs about whites being a genetically engineered race of “devils.” Those teachings clearly stood in contrast with the Islam’s more orthodox teachings he was experiencing. He discovered what he felt was an authentic Islam of universal respect and brotherhood. The experience changed Malcolm’s world view. Gone was the belief in whites as exclusively evil. Gone was the call for black separatism. His voyage to Mecca helped him discover the atoning power of Islam as a means to unity as well as self-respect. That was the point I was trying to drive home.
Now I am not selling Islam here, but what I am selling is the true fact that we are all brothers and sisters. The history of the black people here in America is known and sympathized world wide so why hate on Monte or anyone that is on the side of those that have suffered at the hands of ignorance?
I know racism all to well. My life has been fu@ked up by it being discriminated on personally but even far worse nearly being drowned by the under tow of it. I grew up and ran the streets with poor brothas of all colors. Hell I can remember growing up when I was young and color didn’t matter on the play ground but that $hit sure changed in the prison yard. If you know about life behind the wall, separatism is alive and well like -VNON- said, it was blacks against blacks, (Crips vs. Bloods), and Latinos against Latinos (Kings vs. Neta’s) and blacks against Latinos, and all mentioned against whites it was and is a bunch of BS.
Man I am about sick and tired or poor people killing poor people no matter the color of their skin, we have enough to worry about with the system legally killing us off by executions and brutality. I have grown to love and respect all human beings and respect life itself. I like Malcolm experienced the world out side of the US traveling around Europe where sure there may still be some discrimination but not near the out right racism that still exists here in America.
I, Monte and many others are not sleep walking anymore. We are wide awake and fighting not just for blacks but for all those that have been $hit on, stepped on and held back by the man and still are. We have come far, I’m saying they at least teach black history in schools now which was not a part of the curriculum when I was coming up. They teach black history, which though black history has it’s horror and terror it also holds a lot of beauty, courage and inspiration. I love, admire and so respect all the great black men and women that have stood up in the face of adversity and made and history and made change occur. How can I, or Monte or any young child no matter their color who have a wide open mind not embrace that believe in that, and stand up willing to die for that? Is anyone on here hating on Monte telling me, that every white or Latino that embraces the struggle and the plight of poor people, black people or any people is fake or has ulterior motives? There is still a black struggle yes, but see the bigger picture that is, that Monte paints with his words, see the economical aspects, and you will see that it is now a people struggle and we need to come together, we need to trust one another. Don’t fear love just because it comes in a different color package word up, love is love. Peace, respect and progress to all.

“Throngs of people, obviously Muslims from everywhere, bound for the pilgrimage, were hugging and embracing. They were of all complexions, the whole atmosphere was of warmth and friendliness. The feeling hit me that there really wasn’t any color problem here. The effect was as though I had just stepped out of a prison.” Malcolm X (at the airport terminal before boarding the plane for Cairo in Frankfurt)

Capital X

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7f5NTLgtEA
Malcolm X on Integration

Addtionally
your use of exacerbated words is not spectacular 2 me

The very Idea that he witnessed what he did is noteworthy
but the Stolen Culture Muslims and EVERY OTHER religous faculty has derived from the KMT….from the Body Language of prayer 2 the Ideology of directing their energy towards the East 2 embrace the Motherlands energy all comes from the KMT

Seperatism has always been alive and well and in that link I shared with you Malcolm touches that very subject……you so in AWE of Malcolm X….I pray not because there is much more people you need 2 research

I love when people always grasp my name as a weapon 2 attack me but my message they cannot comprehend….thats called A viewpoint….find it

DAmn what did I miss out on here. I skimmed through a few things and I found some pretty deep stuff going on in here. Though it’s odd I only seen 1 female comment on here.

To Capital X…Latinos are Black.Yall was dominated by spanish speaking people.And we was dominated by english speaking people.It’s called divide and conqure…But don’t belive that political stunt,Malcom X did.His so called “religous awakening”.Shabazz is not a Holy Name.If he didn’t belive in the Teachings.From the Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad.Then he wouldn’t had changed his name to Shabazz.The name Shabazz is part of the Teachings.

@ Nanastroker, I like the “Strongest comment irrelevant” remark but remember not everyone is “wanting” to do something, they just are. And thats not “trying” to say something, it just is. Are you “trying” to be condescending or “are” you condescending. No doubt we’re all passionate about what we have to say but if you are truly about solidarity whats the volition behind comments like “you so in AWE of Malcolm X”, and “your use of exacerbated words is not spectacular 2 me” and “I love when people always grasp my name as a weapon 2 attack me but my message they cannot comprehend….thats called A viewpoint….find it?” Did you just create the most paranoid situation about “interesting moniker”?, or do you know what X means or is thinking? You speak as though you’re dealing with infidels. Are you trying to belittle or truly educate? I’m down with alot of what you say, especially about the grass roots effort. Thats what I’m talking about but we need mutual respect and understanding, and thats for all.

This gets back to the original subject for everyone (black,white,asian,CIA,FBI,IRS) you may be apprehensive about Monte and thats fine, but thats not anyones problem but your own. You have to respect Monte though for serving, and thats alot more than most fools out there. When was the last time you gave up something of your own and gave it to someone who had lesser than you? And not just your people, I’m talking about ANYONE!? This is the grassroots movement right here but apprehensiveness, pregidous, and condescension is the BIRTHPLACE of western militarism and bigotry.

I have nothing but love for all you peeps and thats not condescending. I’m stumbling around on my path trying to work through my mental impurifications but it starts with realizing we need to sharpen our minds. Theres a war against ALL of us.

Malcolm X would later come to recant his stance on the position of white Americans…

—PEOPLE OFTEN ARE MISINFORMED ABOUT MALCOLM X AFTER THE HAJJ AND AFTER RENOUCNING RACISM. HE RENOUNCED RACISM AND SAID HE WOULD NOT REFER TO WHITS AS DEVILS BUT HE WAS STILL A BLACK NATIONALIST, AND HE STILL DID NOT WANT WHITES INVOLVED IN BLACKS STRUGGLE.

NEAR THE END OF HIS BOOK HE MADE IT CLEAR BY SAYING THAT HE WISHED HE COULD GO BACK AND TALK TO THAT WHITE STUDENT AGAIN AND TELL HIM THAT WHAT THE WHITE FOLKS SHOULD DO IS WORK ON THEIR OWN PEOPLE AND THEIR ISSUES WITH RACE AND LET US WORRY ABOUT US.

I REALLYW ONDER HOW MANY PEOPLE READ THE BOOK VERSUS WATCHING THE MOVIE…SMDH.

as for an answer to this post…yes whites can be pro- black…but dont expect anyone to take them seriously…lol

Malcolm X had the best advice and I have seen lots of whites take it…work on your own folks so that they can stop steppin on everybody else’s toes.

Another thing is that people forget that you can love everybody, not be prejudice etc…and still that wont matter when at the end of the day their are people in positions of power that are against anything not related to white supremacy or in support of white supremacy.

If you think you’re love of nature will save you from greedy sharks when you’re stranded in the ocean…then prepare to be eaten.

Will you’re love of life save you from cancer??

Will the love you have for your children protect them from a drunk driver speeding through your neighborhood??

The stance of MLK, Malcolm X, Marcus Garvey etc…was, is, and always will be SELF DEFENSE because we are not the ones in positions of power to reduce whites to the level of second class citizens.

and please yall, we keep thinking about the U.S. as if Black people dont exist in other places or as if we have nothing to do with their struggles which is another thing Malcolm X was about…Pan Africanism.

We have to think GLOBALLY…thats how so many other groups of people have gotten so far ahead of us.

Well, if blacks are this that and the other thing, in terms of having superior social attitudes and skills, then why in the 20 years of the internet have they not organized and pooled resources to create various businesses and lift themselves up?

Just as an example. All that time I’ve watched blacks buy motherboards, cpus, graphics and sound cards, computer cases. Why didn’t anyone figure out to start a custom built computer company? All anyone would have had to do was spread the word around if you wanted to buy a new computer, buy one from the guy in the hood who would build one to your specs and needs.

From what I’ve read here and in other comment areas, blacks should own the largest and most productive computer manufacturing company in the world….

LOL

Hey Blaq_thot, in order to be successful in this world my friend, you better learn the rules of the game being played. If you tried playing soccer, using the rules of basketball, you won’t be too successful. If you acknowledge that Whites can’t look past color, shouldn’t I act accordingly? Or do you think I should keep ignoring that, and keep hoping that one day, all whites will eventually have a change of heart. Keep in mind, although my words appear to be generalizations, I assure it is not. I know full well there are whites out there who don’t act/feel that way. My only counter to that is, I can’t really discern who does and who doesn’t. Merely telling me you don’t won’t cut it. If I were to put a bucket of snakes in front of you, and told you that only one of them still had their fangs, I’m pretty sure, you would take the utmost precautions, since you can’t tell one from the other, without going and investigating each and every one of them…..But I would ask, what’s the point of that? See this is what most blacks do, they spend THEIR entire lives looking for those benevolent whites, while simultaneously overlooking or mistreating their own brother every day…That is senseless to me. Have fun on your next Parachute jump. Ironic you would have a pic, with a white man on top of you, serving as your protector. Very good illustration of what I’m talking about! I mean look at you! You’re getting all bent out of shape because someone has an opinion other than yours. MERITORIOUS MANUMISSION!

@blknall

“if blacks r attacking black then that’s our business.”
Fair dos but the only point I was making was that anyone can be an enemy regardless of colour. However I personally don’t push someone’s help away when they genuinely want to help me (unless they are patronisizing me ofcourse). I had a black guy risk his life for me to get me out of a situation with a white pimp when I was 17 so for people to talk like blacks and whites are always enemies and whites and blacks are always enemies is ridiculous to me. I respect or disrespect people based on who they are as individuals not on race, class, gender, sexuality, or whatever.

I admit my comments go a little heated there and the pistol whipping comment was uneccessary but I really despise racism and Monte is a comrade and personal friend of mine so this does get me heated. I apologize for what I said about _A_ but to be honest if I ever become a racist then I’d want someone to give me a good ol pistol whipping to smack some sense into me. I also don’t understand how things such as _A’s_ personal fitness regime apply to this debate. If people got off their ego trips and stopped bonding by exclusion maybe we could bring down the real oppressors (and they are not limited to white people but ofcourse they do include them in large numbers).

Oppressed people have to stand united against the powers that be and until they join forces in solidarity nothing will change. BTW I am female but as usual I am disappointed that there are very few women who have anything to say. Women are often another oppressed group who help perpetrate their own oppression. I think every oppressed group has to figure out who their real oppressors are but they also must ascertain the ways in which they have institutionalized that oppression and continue to perpetrate it. For example women can now use their voice but so often they choose not to. I’m not off on some feminist trip I am just trying to make a point about how people can do something to change their situation but choose not to. Anyone who is not fighting oppression is participating in it in my view.

BTW love to all my AIM familia who have come down to stand up for their brother. If only a few more people had the heart, brains and loyalty that you men have then the world would be a very different place.

Peace & Solidarity,
~AK47~

PS: Please check out a track by emcee Greydon Square called The N Word at
http://www.antiinjusticemovement.com/page_1263235784474.html because the song very much applies to this debate.

@XAK47X. For the sake of clarity, my mentioning my personal fitness regimen was not for the sake of ego tripping. That comment was directed at a specific individual, not at the topic at hand, or any other poster to this blog.
But also keep in mind, physical fitness and proper nutrition are two very key components to this war against oppressors that you refer to. Nothing worse than people talking about waging battles and they are out of shape physically and mentally!

its a shame how some people are out of shape mentally and they don’t even realize it. im starting to rethink whether the communists had a good thing going with those gulags.

@XAK47X. I should have checked your page first before addressing you.

@_A_ Why because I’m white or because I’m female?

@_A_ “Nothing worse than people talking about waging battles and they are out of shape physically and mentally!”

One point we agree on. I think physical fitness teaches us to respect our bodies and our minds, and builds up strength of will. As Henry Rollins says: “Keep your blood clean, your body lean and your mind sharp.”

XAK47X knowing that u are a woman i understand women have a right to judge men same way blacks have a right to judge whites past deeds. Even tho i’m black yet i’m still a man…a gay one at that, but i can’t come to ur rescue with the idea that i’m the one u should follow and listen to.
Like u said “women are another oppressed group who have their own voices now” so how dare i come in with poetic comments bout a woman’s struggle, i’m a man.

Being honest XAK47X, i came in suspect of Monte. If u were black you’d understand why. But like i said b4, i gave the interview a listen anyway, and it was “I” and “my” and i was satisfied with my opinion of him.

And also it seems, as a woman, ur doin what u said women really shouldn’t do. Looking to men to save u when, now, u have a voice of ur own.

browneye_sista
“work on your own folks so that they can stop steppin on everybody else’s toes”

This quote is so true. If Monte would preach his poetry to his own racist people then that would be something to take notice of. Instead he either chickened out or his intentions are not to make a change but to gain fame through blacks like Elvis, The Beach Boys, Eminem, J. Timberlake etc.

I guess time will tell and people that help lift him up with be left beggin for his autograph

The level of stupidity on this site is comical at best. When you start to think and act like your enemy you have already lost your personal battle. When you have been judged, held back, profiled, criminalized, demonized and oppressed and then in return decide to have the same mindset about another group of people you have become part of the very thing that has held you down which is the emotion known as FEAR. There are only 2 real emotions, love and fear. From fear comes hate and then everything is down hill from there.

I love all people. mankind. humanity. I think race and knowledge of self are very important. I love the cultures and variety of people around the globe. Life without them would be very very dull. I have 2 interracial children. When I see the comments about whites on this site who are trying their damnedest to be aware of what has happened and what is happening it makes me hang my head low. White people messed up everything from the jump and have continued to do so, and looks like they will into the future. White people have been mean and cruel beyond description. Most of white society cannot relate to people who do not look like them, it is true that they think of other people as lesser than themselves. white society has a long long long way to go and much room for improvement and enlightenment. I have no problem saying that you will be hard press to find whites who will treat you as an equal person.

With that being said I just want to say thank GOD Almighty for the righteous white people who stand up to be counted and take the heat for doing so. Is it the heat that blacks take from whites? hell no. Is it real heat though, best believe it. You catch hell from both sides. Nobody wants you. Everyone wants to be treated equal but nobody treats any one equal.

If you pass any judgement on a man’s heart, attitude, outlook or character based on the color of his skin you are part of the problem. I am you and you are me, like it or not. The real revolutionaries who unite with brothers of all colors out numbers any group that comes up against us. We are getting bigger and bader everyday. We on the rise so hard. We got men and women getting on board world wide. People who know and understand true love and true brotherhood are going to take over this world. We may live to see it, we may not, but I promise that we will be part of the battle that makes the wheels keep moving foreword until one day when we will take the head off any man who thinks he is superior because of the color of skin the universe choose him to be.

GOD Bless all people of all nations
peace love respect

f**kin bastards

@blknall

@but i can’t come to ur rescue with the idea that i’m the one u should follow and listen to.
What nonsense are you spewing? I said a particular black guy got me out of a bad sitaution when I was a teen and therefore I judge people by their deeds not their colour. I don’t need anyone to come to my rescue, especially not some waste of skin in a forum. I’m the first one to step up and have someone’s back whether they be male or female. I never said at any point I needed anyone to save me. Trust me I could probably save you before you could ever save me pa.

“And also it seems, as a woman, ur doin what u said women really shouldn’t do. Looking to men to save u when, now, u have a voice of ur own.”
Absolute nonsense. Where did you pull that from? I’m not looking for Monte to save me I work in correlation with Monte and other female and male activists in the movement I run called The Anti-Injustice Movement. I may have needed my ass saving on one occassion when I was a dumb teen but mentally and physically I sure as hell don’t need saving. That is seriously laughable and you pulled that out your ass based on complete misinterpretations of the point I was making. I’ve been in gangs when I was younger and I’ve done what I had to do to protect both my male and female comrades and now I do it in the arena of activism.

If you said to me that you fell over in the street and a women helped you to your feet why would I infer that you were some weak and feeble person who always needed a woman to save him? You missed the point entirely and made s**t up because you couldn’t argue against my points. Puuhlease. You’re neurons aren’t firing right brah because you have very poor reasoning skills.

Let me ask you blknall just because many straight people have oppressed gay people does that mean you hate on all straight people too? I am tired of interacting with people without a scrap of intelligence. Hate on Monte all you want but the only reason you don’t get him is because you’re bigots. Take an enema Monte haters because you’re all full of s**t. I’m out.

XAK47X maybe i said something wrong and thats my fault i am a man addressing a women after all, but calling me a waste of skin…hmmm…now u showing ur true colors. I see whites are all alike in that aspect saying racist things cuz some of their best friends are black. Don’t get it twisted b!tch cuz u still white regardless of how many black men “save” u.

When i made the statement “ur doin what u said women really shouldn’t do” i was talkin about u commin to Monte’s defense when women have there own problems. And i’m man enough to say i’m sorry for doin what i said Monte and men shouldn’t do. But, with that slip of the keyboard i’m even more convinced of what i said to be true, not just about Monte, but all whites claiming racial harmony.

Monte, you and all whites like u are a joke. Taking out both sides of ur mouth about ur feeling about race. U except ppl regardless of race yet i’m A WASTE OF SKIN!?!

U’re all devils with no real cause but to make urself idles of another ppl.

@blknall

peace brother. you quoted this from browneye_sista:

“work on your own folks so that they can stop steppin on everybody else’s toes”

and then you said this:

“This quote is so true. If Monte would preach his poetry to his own racist people then that would be something to take notice of. Instead he either chickened out or his intentions are not to make a change but to gain fame through blacks like Elvis, The Beach Boys, Eminem, J. Timberlake etc.

I guess time will tell and people that help lift him up with be left beggin for his autograph”

That’s funny, because now I wonder if you and most of the people commenting even listened to the interview.

Monte says clearly in the interview, loosely quoting here, that his position is to teach white people the errors of their ways, because black people already know their plight better than anyone else.

Did you all really *listen* to the interview or are you just being judgmental because it’s a white face behind his words?

Yes, Monte fought the Klan. several times. that does not mean he is a black “savior”. Were Andrew Goodman and James Schwerner “black saviors” when they died alongisde James Cheney in Missisippi when they were campaigning for our rights?

If there are women being oppressed Monte will be there to help carry picket signs and become a voice with the masses.

If there is a campaign for Filipino workers rights Monte signs up (which is a very important issue as well as there are thousands of filipinos currently enslaved around the world – some in this very country). He just gets involved.

Why? Because he’s an ACTIVIST.

He is not on some mission to “save” black people or anyone else. That’s ridiculous.

He’s an activist who happens to perform in front of all kinds of people, in all types of situations but you wouldn’t know that unless you really *knew* him, and not just from this one interview.

From growing up in the South, i’ve come to realize there are three kinds of white people.

Whites who actively pursue the downfall and persecution of non-whites, whites who stand around and do nothing for fear of disturbing the status quo, and then you have whites like Monte who do something because they realize their parents’ generation was wrong about race.

Not because he’s on a mission to “save” anyone. Just because the s**t is wrong and instead of being one of the many whites standing around he prefers to be one who stands and delivers.

AND…I could be wrong but the only time I believe he mentioned the phrase “black people” at all in the interview is when he said “black people aren’t the only people who are being oppressed”.

One mention. And that means he’s trying to “save” blacks?

What he said there is so true. Light skinnned filipinos oppress dark skinned filipinos, japanese people look down on other asians, muslim blacks in darfur are killing and raping non-muslim blacks…and they look the damn same which is crazy to me so yeah, blacks in america do not own oppression. it’s happening everywhere and EVERYONE can do something.

I’d rather have more people working towards a solution than contributing to the problem…cuz white websites like stormfront will let you know that there are a huge number of whites who still want to do away with us, and in their eyes the sooner the better.

peace.
-cherryl252washere

oops. he did mention black ppl more than 1x. he did it twice…1x when he said we weren’t the only one’s being oppressed, and then again when he said that we knew our own plight better than anyone else. so i guess that’s twice lol but you get the point (i hope).

peace
-cherryl252washere

@TheRealJohnBrown13 and @Upper_Class_Negro, thank you. Thats what I’m talking about. @browneye_sista I hear your point about love fo sho. In my opinion the only REAL love there is, is unconditional love which is hard to live out. Every other kind is based on your reaction to a feeling you get. Thats NOT about the the object or person accepting the love, thats about you being attached to a feeling.

In regards to loving nature won’t save you from a shark attack and love for your children will save them from a drunk driver, I’d have to say if I was in any one of those positions, I’d look at what MY part is in the sitution and how I’M responsible and thats a huge part of every facet of society. Not many will take responsibility for anything, how they feel, or their circ**stances. My question is sayh the shark ate you, does your family kill the shark and all sharks from that point. Do we put all drunk drivers who commit involuntary man-slaughter to death? What then?

In prison, if you’re a “traitor” to your race, you don’t just get accepted by the other race, you have to prove yourself. You’re already blacklisted (no pun intended) form your own race. To prove yourself you’d have to shank your own race. Is that what would make these peeps on here accepting of a hard working activist like Monte? To prove himself he’d have to kill a white? I know those are extremes but honestly we need to ask ourselves as minorities what the f**k DO we want and why the f**k are we judging every goddamn buddy.

Upper Class Negro and The Real John Brown have it down.

Bottom Line!
Just because he a kracka I should show him some love for spewin rhetoric many black poets have been spewing with more venom since the late 50′s, I gota jump on HIS(Monte) bandwagon?
I’m good
the shlt he saying has been spoken….now ask yourself….how come not 1 black poet has gotten this much Media or nlgga attention? WHERE’S THE LOVE and the SELF!worth….take care of your own when we get that issue resolved then we can aid and assist others but until then my people of hue are the downtrodden around the Globe

XL_611
3-15-2010 2:10 pm
Well, if blacks are this that and the other thing, in terms of having superior social attitudes and skills, then why in the 20 years of the internet have they not organized and pooled resources to create various businesses and lift themselves up?

Look at the Fact of this but the sarcasm involved

This was from a previous article someone posted this comment

BLACKS: COULD YOU IMAGINE WHAT A COMPUTER WOULD BE LIKE WITHOUT A HIGH SPEED INTERNET MODEM, PRINTER, MOUSE, AND KEYBOARD ETC. WELL A MAN BY THE NAME OF MARK DEAN IS RESPONSIBLE FOR INVENTING BUS CONTROL THAT ALLOWS ALL OF THESE DEVISES TO BE CONNECTED. HE INVENTED 3 OUT OF THE 9 (PC) PATENTS AT (IBM) AND HAS 20 OVERALL COMPUTER PATENTS. MARK DEAN IS THE VICE PRESIDENT OF (IBM) AND OWNS MORE THEN 30% OF THE COMPANY, WITHOUT HIM GUYS LIKE (TIM-BERNERS LEE, GOOGLE, STEVE-JOBS & BILL-GATES) WOULDN’T EXIST.
CRACKERS: (CHARLES-BABBAGE) IDEA OF THE COMPUTER WAS INCOMPLETE BECAUSE HE WAS TOO FukING STUPID TO ACTUALLY FINISH IT (FAIL). (ALAN-TURING) WAS A GAY-FAGET THAT HAD TO GET HIS NUTS NEUTERED FOR DOING HOMO ShltT AND DIDN’T INVENT ANYTHING (FAIL-AGAIN).

lol, i love reading the quotes on this site, they are actually beginning to be the highlight of my day.

Mr_NANASTROKER. I’m sorry but you’re a long way from answering my questiond. And there was not a shred of sarcasm involved. It was a straight up or down question.

I DID NOT ASK WHY THERE WERE NO BLACK INVENTORS OR BLACKS WHO WERE PROFCIENT IN TECHNOLOGY FIELDS. Did I?

No, I asked a very specific question with respect to blacks being able to organize more effectively and efficiently, etc., based upon what I’ve read here and in other places.

Meaning, if those comments, beliefs, perceptions and attitudes are true, where are the results?

And if they are not true, why aren’t they true?

What’s prevented blacks from organizing and developing a series of educational computer games? And from there developing an entire operating system? Or, how about a simple web browser? Or a suite of office applications? All you need to do these things is a programming language and 10.00 a month website, to start with.

The problem is guys like nanastroker who can’t read with much in the way of comprehension. He might get the general idea, but his bigotry, prejudice and jaundiced outlook on life on the whole, clouds his perceptions and attitudes and he comes off as little more than, ignant and plain stoopid……

LOL

XK47X maybe i said something wrong and thats my fault i am a man addressing a women after all, but calling me a waste of skin…hmmm…now u showing ur true colors. I see whites are all alike in that aspect saying racist things cuz some of their best friends are black. Don’t get it twisted b!tch cuz u still white regardless of how many black men “save” u.

@blknall I never said anything racist. A “waste of skin” had no relation to the color of your skin. I’ll say that to anybody who endorses blind hatred. What gave you the impression that I want to be black? Race is irrelevant to me. I have friends of different colors who have done right by me but why should that suggest I want to take on their races? Are you smoking mescaline? Your line of reasoning is completely incoherent. I don’t have white guilt so don’t pull that on me because I have never been a racist in fact I actively fight for the freedom and equality of all people. However I think the only thing that distinguishes you from a KKK member is having darker skin and being sans a white sheet on your head. You have more in common with a white racist than I do and I’m white.

“When i made the statement “ur doin what u said women really shouldn’t do” i was talkin about u commin to Monte’s defense when women have there own problems. And i’m man enough to say i’m sorry for doin what i said Monte and men shouldn’t do. But, with that slip of the keyboard i’m even more convinced of what i said to be true, not just about Monte, but all whites claiming racial harmony.”

@blknall I said that women need to speak up in general but I never said that women should only speak up for women. I think everyone should stand opposed to all inequalities, hatred and discrimination regardless of who is is targeted at. Don’t even debate me because you don’t even understand the most basic points I am making. That doesn’t surprise me because racists usually aren’t very bright.

I may seem harsh but because I’m not a racist I don’t see why I should treat black racists with any less contempt than I do white racists. I understand that blacks have more reason to be racist based on their oppression by white racist sc** but on the other hand they have more reason to understand why racism is wrong as they have experienced it first hand.

Smittytva…LMAO @ “love of whites”. Again…classic response. Nowhere did I say I love one race more than another..but because I’m not using your radical rhetoric I “love whitey”. Lol…amazing. You remind me of a white supremacist I argued with…close to the same talking points…and never actually being able to justify it

Here’s the thing Smitty. There’s nothing you can say…besides generalizations…to prove your point. You’re treating an entire group of people like one big organization with the same brain. There are good ppl and there are bad. I’ve had bad experiences of all races…I’ve been treated horribly by at least one person of almost every race..so again…don’t come at me with that. Do you like when blacks are generalized? If not then why do it to other races???

I’m not trying to “pick through the good whiteys”. A good person is a good person…because quite frankly…a person’s skin color does not equal “good”. Try to make sense of your logic next time before responding

@Perionne Thanks for being a voice of reason. I was beginning to think this site was the black equivalent of Stormfront. Respect.

Blknall you’re honestly not making much sense to me. Your logic seems to be that just because Monte’s white means that he can’t possibly have good intentions. What scientific or logical reason can you possibly have to come to that conclusion?? Can you read minds? I don’t get that line of thinking….

And I’ve told other ppl they’re a “waste of skin” or something along those lines. It didn’t mean none of the things you’re implying against whoever you were arguing with, and frankly judging from other comments here you don’t seem to be objective in your criticism

And yes…even though you’re a man you can care about women’s issues or rights. I’m a man and I also care and understand the issues facing women as well as other groups. A woman wouldn’t necessarily know more than me because they’re a woman..because some may not have a deep understanding of it.

The truth is blknall…if you did more research…you’d know that there are whites that care about equal rights for all. Remember when Stokey Carmichael kicked out all the whites in the SNCC that wanted to help with the cause? How’d you feel about that? Have you been on any other forums to generalize “all whites” ?? What about those that have done volunteer work or other humanitarian work in black countries? Aren’t they included in the “All whites” ? Again…I don’t understand where you’re coming from. I am very well aware of the racial problems…and I’ve seen many doc**entaries and been on racist websites to confirm that and keep track. But that doesn’t go for all

XAK47X, I actually went on Stormfront before to challenge their racism…I was kicked off quickly though, didn’t last longer than an hour after they didn’t have an answer for me lol

I’ve been called all kinds of names for my stance on equal rights, women’s rights, stereotypes, etc. I’m used to it

perionne27,when i see a white person thats good i,ll say there are some but, again i haven,t seen one that was true, thats just not their nature or their history why don,t you pick up a book on white history,read it back to their beginning and tell me if you see anything they done besides murder,rape,steal,and lie about eveything, and besides another point our ancesters wasn,t bought to this country to be their friends so if i chose not to forgive or forget all this racist hate they done, and is still doing, thats me, you keep serching for the good whitey thats not my style no way,you keep talking this jive about all these different races you hang around, boy don,t you know blacks are the most hated race of people their ever been but, are always the first to stand and take up for every other race i bet they,re no whites on no web site trying to confence another white person that all blacks are not but, then again there,s no bigger fool then a black fool so you keep up the good work for all those other races,i,m sure they,re glad you got their back.

Well, I’ve seen enough comments on “white” culture and the evil nature of it all and so forth. But, comes now the question, which is better? Or for that matter, worse?

I mean when europeans began trade with asia and were floating around off the coasts of Africa to get there, they found nothing in terms of cultural development. The entire continent was in a culturally primitive state.

So primitive in fact that Africans saw no value in building their own ships and sending their own goods out into the world market and making their own trade ventures.

They believed themselves to be getting the better end of the bargain because the white man was coming to them for their goods and bringing to them things that they wanted from far away places.

All of which led to an advanced culture taking increasing advantage of a much less developed culture.

But it does lead to the question. Would blacks be better off having been left completely alone and in the stage of development they’d lived in for hundreds of thousands of years and presumeably would to this day, a mere 500 years later…

There’s no evidence to suggest they’d have suddenly developed technological interests on their own. And even when exposed to it, showed no interest.

So. Which is it?

LOL

Smittytva…again…factually wrong

Yes…my friend I study history. I’m well aware of the good and bad things that have occurred. Let me ask you a question…you said “that’s just not their nature”. Really? So…should we just classify all white babies/adolescents as racists already because they were born white? What about the whites that have adopted kids from black countries(Haiti most recently) or have done volunteer work? Do they fit into your equation? Are all blacks good? Are all Hispanics good? Seriously…again your logic isn’t holding up

I just brought up the Stokey Carmichael example as it relates to the SNCC with another person when he kicked out all the whites that wanted to help with the Civil Rights cause. How do you feel about that? Do you think that was right?

Throughout history there have been many wars, conflicts, etc. Malcolm X himself said racism/prejudice has brought blood baths to many throughout history. So what do we do Smitty? Do we continue to endorse an endless race war? Or do we think for ourselves and do what is right? Hatred isn’t right…and that’s the truth of the matter

I do not need other people to tell me how to think. If I was from Ghana and a war was started with Ethiopia…I’m not going to..like an idiot..hate all Ethiopians for a meaningless and painful war. Not all whites are hateful, and not all whites are good. Not all blacks are hateful…and not all blacks are good. That’s just what it is…

Anyone who supports the advancement and liberation of black people is pro-black. Anyone willing to take actions to those ends is a revolutionary. Period

@XAK47X. YES. Bottom line, just because you have struggled and been oppressed, doesn’t mean you can relate to all other people’s struggle and oppression. Yes it is true that white men have oppressed you to (who hasn’t he oppressed?) but the fact is, even in his maltreatment of you, he still maintained a certain level of respect and dignity for you (for the most part) since you are the mother of his children. The way you have been treated by him, doesn’t even come close to matching the treatment my people have endured. You were NEVER considered 3/5th’s of a person. You were never treated/regarded as a child, while a full grown up. You were never publically humiliated when simply trying to buy a meal at a local rest. You were never made to stand up or go to the back of the bus, when a white man needed a seat. In fact, you as a white woman even today, are held up as the sign of beauty in this world….No m’am, just from a psychological standpoint, the treatment doesn’t even come close, therefore, how can you truly relate? Like I said, I respect Tim Wise, for the information that he drops, but even he will tell you, that could never really relate or understand how it truly feels to be a black man in this country. So if that is the case, how can you TRULY be a pro-black revolutionary?

One more thing XAK47X. Unless I may have missed it, but I notice, no other person took my comments related to my “physical fitness regimen” the same way as you did. You went as far as to accuse me of ego tripping, while either no black person reading this felt that way, or didn’t feel the need to comment on it. In fact, interestingly enough, the two people who mentioned it happen to be white? Conincidence? Perhaps. Or maybe, that’s just the subtle white supremacist attitude, you both have, manifested similarly in that one instance. Interesting!

first of all XAK47X, where did u get that i said u wanted to be black? I never said that in anyway. That didn’t even come to mind. U’ve total disassembled what i said and re-worded it. As i scratch my head and wonder how u got that from what i was sayin i have to say wanting to be black is not the same as being black especially if ur white.

“I understand that blacks have more reason to be racist based on their oppression by white racist sc** but on the other hand they have more reason to understand why racism is wrong as they have experienced it first hand.”

U obviously don’t understand at all. When i see the images of my people hanging from trees, or bound in chains i have more than empathy but a frightening realization that if it happened once it could happen again. If ur people had ever expecienced this u would know, and until u do u’ll never understand.

Perionne27 ur comment on what i said was one sided. I mean just becuz a white person adopts a black child doesn’t mean they have that childs best interest at heart..case in point (a white gay man in S.C. adopted a black child to molest and blogged about how it’s easier to adopt black children to other molesters)
in that he uncovered two wrongs, 1) Whites molesters adopt black children to victimize and 2) the state allows our orphaned children to be takin away by anyone white while they try to make sure their orphaned kids get to a good home.

And u callin me a “waste of skin” isn’t the same as a white person callin me a name. It’s like how blacks use the N word on one another and i’m not sayin that’s right i’m just saying it’s similar.

And just becuz a white person will join a cause doesn’t mean they are committed to it at all. Whites tend to want to feel good about themselves. Case in point…movies like Avatar, Blindside, and Precious. They don’t always do things for the good of the people. Whites tend to do things for the good of themselves. To make themselve feel good about doin something. In the long run what they’ve accomplish is nothin but a lil something to tell there white friends about later.

Now a person like Monte who gets in the KKK face (if thats true) is something. But what we need to pay attention to is that whites, like Monte, r a minority. Thats right…there are more whites willing to either fight against equality r do nothin to improve it. So u see the solution will ultimately have to ours and sadly it seems whites will always in some way be the problem.

XL_611
As i read ur statement i realize what u said is what whites base their hatred on. Who said that “The entire continent was in a culturally primitive state”. Oh yeah, u make it seem like we had NO way of life in Africa, that we owe everything we have to whites. So even tho we have music, style, and education here we have whites to thank for that it seems.

Is this what whites r tought about Africa? That, we are a less developed race. And u state that as if its true. Fact is if whites didn’t invade other cultures they wouldn’t have one of their own. It obviously true to u but i’m smarter than that i know better than to believe white peoples record of OUR history.

Quote “UNTIL LIONS WRITE THEIR OWN HISTORY, THE TALE OF THE HUNT WILL GLORIFY THE HUNTER.”

@_A_ “Yes it is true that white men have oppressed you to (who hasn’t he oppressed?) but the fact is, even in his maltreatment of you, he still maintained a certain level of respect and dignity for you (for the most part) since you are the mother of his children”

You don’t know s**t about me and what oppression I’ve been through. I wasn’t talking about a boyfriend, I don’t have kids and I was talking about a pimp who raped me, beat me and forced me into prostitution when I was only 17. Don’t talk to me about not knowing oppression. I understand black people have been oppressed but believe me you are not the only ones. I have been abused by men in the past but that doesn’t mean I’m going to write off every single man now. I didn’t want to go into personal s**t but don’t ever tell me I don’t know what oppression is just because I’m not black. I am not oppressed anymore because with age and suffering comes anger and strength so don’t think for a second I feel sorry for myself. I understand your anger towards white people but we aren’t all the same.

XAK47X u chose to miss the point _A_ was making to u. The fact that u, urself don’t have kids isn’t the point. He wasn’t talking about u as a single white woman but u of the race of white women. U got real ignorant there.

Ok u were “oppressed” as a woman…maybe? But, as a white woman u didn’t have to be a prostitute. U have privilage in ur skin color that we don’t have. U had a pimp but the pimp didn’t get u based on a law that said women have to have pimps r be prostitutes. U see, u didn’t have to be a prostitute unlike we have to be black. U made that happen, even if u were influenced the decisision was ultimately urs.

blknall, it’s impossible for me to address your “questions”, due to the simple fact you confuse race and culture. They’re not interchangeable terms and you have to keep them straight.

There is no doubt, no question as to whether african culture as a whole, as in over the entire continent, there was any cultural advancement of any sort. No mathematics, no science, no civil engineering, no literature, nothing.

To my mind however, race is simply co-incidental and meaningless in terms of intelligence and character. It does not play a role in determining those things.

Culture however, is a different story. For, that’s what culture is about. The means of social development within a given society. Or, a given numbered group of human beings.

For some reason, social advancement never took hold on the entire continent, until europeans came with various forms of technological advancement.

Now, to say that all whites where tyrannical and abusive is a mistake. Those who ventured far from home, certainly earned such distinction. Like I said earlier, the only reason things got to where they did, was because there was no protection for africans. No institution of law which held standards and applied standards of the treatment of others.

As far as whites as a whole, how can you blame whites for having a prejudice towards the black man, simply on the basis of what they’d heard about blacks, when that’s precisely what blacks are doing today.

They’ve heard about how white people are and what white people do and before they’ve said a word to them or heard a word from them, well never mind that. A lot of blacks today won’t even go that far.

They don’t need to say or hear a word to or from a white man.

YOUR MINDS ARE ALREADY MADE UP!!

LOL

@blknall You don’t know the circ**stances around what I was talking about. Thousands of women every day are forced into prositution in big cities in Europe (I’m not American). Not everyone chooses to be a prostitute, and many young girls and girls from Easten Europe are brutalized and sold into it due to violent pimps and criminal gangs. They will go through torments that you can only imagine(I never chose to go on the game at 16). This has often been dubbed ‘White Slavery’. Fact. Gay people are also oppressed within society. Jews had the f**king Holocaust too.

I am not saying that black people are not oppressed in our society, that much is obvious, and I absolutely oppose this oppression but you, as usual, have missed the point. You are not the only ones that are oppressed and it is not a grounds to hate everybody who isn’t like you. That is not me undermining what black people have been through at all but I am attacking your racist mentality.

I have no idea why I am bothering @blknall your willingly ignorant and you are deflecting by attacking my person as opposed to responding to the real issues.

XL_611 u r such a liar. Parts of Africa was advanced with their own form of everything u claim they didn’t to have.

White ppl really r ignorant. U state these lies as truth with all the known evidence that disproves it.

I see ur intend here is to bring black ppl beneath u with ur misguiding history lesson.

It’s whites like u that make me weary of Monte. I mean is he out to fool us into believing we couldn’t have succeeded without whites, like u’re making it seem.

Those are lies u’re tellin to justify ur evil oppresive history of another race, but it’s not goin to work becuz we know better.

@XAK47X…see, this is the exact reason why you can’t have these discussions with white people…Listen, when I say “you”, i don’t mean “YOU”….I’m making a point between how white women were oppressed vs. black people, were oppressed, and saying that YOU can’t even begin to make a educated comparison there. Wow, you had the nerve to accuse me of ego tripping earlier. Your plight is unfortunate, but trust me, we can all find situations that is worse than yours, but what does that really accomplish. You have further shown, why whites can’t be a pro black revolutionary. But honestly, I think you should get into reforming the lives of former prostitutes, since you can relate to that a whole lot better than being black in America…

@blknall, ok, I just saw you addressed my point. People who are oppressed for the same reason(s) can better relate to one another. We can sometimes communicate with ease, without having to break things down to a simpler form. While you got exactly what I was saying, XA47X needed additional explanation. The same thing would probably happen if I was in a conversation with her and another prostitute. I wouldn’t be able to relate, therefore, how can I advocate properly. It doesn’t matter how much empathy I have in my heart for you. Listen, go look at most drug treatment centers. The case managers for the most part are former addicts. Gang intervention programs are typically run by ex gang members. It’s not that difficult a concept to grasp. It’s terribly difficult to advocate for someone, if you can’t fully appreciate where they are coming from, and you just can’t get that from reading books.

the answer is no!!!!!!!!!!!!

can he be a agent for us?

yes

do all races use agents of other races to attack the race of the agent?

yes

all this other hehaw malcom x blah blah all u mata fakas is dum as fkkkkkkkkkkkk

bottom line no non afrakan cane be a pro afrakan revolutionary but they can be a slavish agent working for us to aqquire information and then he is to be shot

nuff said

Hello, condemning a race for anything is racism. After all the racism that black people have experienced, how can it so easily be turned on white people or any other race for that matter? White people held you down, so now to protest it you’re going to hold them down and call yourselves any better?! If any race wants to rid the world of racism, they must first start with themselves. Change comes from within— so many of the things I’m reading on here are things that I’m sure were said by white people about black people back in the day (and yes, even still today).
If you want acceptance, why not try accepting your neighbor?

further more the whole blackpanther leather wearing gun totting crap is lame and now in 2010 appears more like some sick twisted bdsm leather fetish oppossed to men who r about revolution.

real afrakan men who r about revolution

we conduct business and buy land and invest our change in instituitions no matter how small they may b now

we dont not go around screaming rhetoric just facts from our own people to our own people

real afe\rakan men dont get caught up in debates about shet we no aint true

the blackpanthers were good and needed but anyone in this age trying to follow in there footsteps is an i.d.i.o.i.t flat out cold bottom line.

so this oyinbo and his pack of rabid foolish pack of black dogs is something to be laughed at scoffed at and left alone to the i.d.i.o.i.t.s and there i.d.i.o.t.i.c children and spouses to laugh at.

this is nothing more then a BDSM FETISH

THESE ARE NOT REVOLUTIONARYS FOR REVOLUTIONARY MINDED AFRAAKNS EVOVLE WE DO NOT WALK AROUND WITH KEMETIC AKA EGYPTIAN CLOTHING ON TRYING TO RECREATE THE GLORY DAYS OF ANCEINT KMT.

hey ihateinterRacial….. ever heard of segregation?

kslow16

racism IS NOT REAL

“If you want acceptance, why not try accepting your neighbor?”

kslow16, MLK tried that remember. And he was killed for it. U make it seem like if we start acting civil toward whites they will stop being racist. That notion is rediculous for someone with common sense, becuz it was the whites who came to our ancestors home land and enslaved them. It wasn’t as if the African asked to be let into their homeland and they gave them the choice to be slaves.

It’s like this really. If we hated the Native Americans for being Native American that would be racist cuz there is no history of injustice between us, but with whites there is history and a struggle still today. Whites made themselves our enemy from their actions, so we have every reason to be (not racist) but wary of them. So what u consider racist is us watchin our backs so whites won’t put a noose around our necks.

When we show anger toward whites it is well warranted.

kslow16

YEP AND I LOVED IT FOR WE WERE MORE TOGETHER AND EVENTUALLY WE WILL GO BACK TO THAT WELL WHAT AM I SAYING WE ALREAD HAVE TO SOME EXTENT BUT NOT THE EXTENT ID LIKE.

no, I’m saying that everybody needs to be civil. how is you pissing and moaning about how whites screwed you over solving any kind of problem? white and black hatred is exactly the same. blacks hating whites is no less wrong than whites hating blacks. blacks have killed whites, whites have killed blacks. whites have killed whites, blacks have killed blacks. i’m trying to show you that hating white people is practicing the same exact racism you are condemning them for.

blknall

WTF ARE U TALKEN ABOUT SO CALLED NATIVE AMERICANS DID ENSLAVE SOME AFRAKAN GROUPS AND WE ENSLAVED THEM SO U DONT KNO WAT THE HELL UR TALKEN ABOUT LOL

YA MIGHT WANNA GO RECHECK THAT

BECAUSE AFRAKAN PEOPLE WE HAVE NO FRIENDS

What I don’t understand is why black people fight against white people judging them based on the color of their skin (either in the past or today), yet they can claim that all white people are bad or evil and it’s not the same?

kslow16 u r obviously white trash for sayin white and black hatred is exactly the same. U think just becuz u can sleep with a black man r men, u can compare us to u don’t u? We never did to ur ppl what u did to ours,…never!

So u can go hand that sh!t to the sellouts u fukkin but this one ain’t buyin such obvious bu//sh!t.

ihateinteracial, in what way did Native American enslaved Africans. If u mean durin the slave trade that the whites started, that’s not what i’m talkin about. Unless ur saying Native American invaded Africa with their own boats and visa versa, then that’s news to me.

kslow16

you are two focused on colors and european folk i suggest you open ur eyes

the world is run by ideals and race money is a close 3rd

blknall, I agree with you on the fact that black people never enslaved and mistreated whites in the manner they did back in those days. but I’m talking about today. i’m sure some murders of black people by white people are because of racist beliefs. But do you really think a black person has never killed a white person out of racist beliefs? That hatred is exactly the same.

I appreciate your passion on this topic… but you can go ahead and refrain from personally attacking me. I’m not sitting here personally attacking you. Don’t pretend that you know me or my life by looking at my picture.

blknall

no im talken about when afrakans were here before anyone else and then the asians who were more like the tiger woods type back then went to war with the afrakans here in america and then we lost and the half breeds created out of it enslaved many of the remaining groups of afrakans but we also enslaved them as well.

so

like i said people need to know more about our afrakan history

I’m suggesting that you are the one who is closed. You assume you know everything about a person because they are one color or another. That’s the same white supremacist notion that gave some evil white person the thought that black people were meant to be enslaved because they were black.

kslow16

ur just a weak minded corny cnn msnbc love basketball and comic view type of regular ole not earth changing negro.

ur being on this forum sickens me.

corn ball regergitating the same ole shet koons like u spew

try being orginal

like me

clown

XL_611?

Tell you what?

Garner as many “WHITES” as you can, and together MARCH to the highest court in this nation and ALL OF YOU proclaim “ERACISM!” at the top of your lungs.

Let a sista know how THAT works out, okay?

Look i don’t know u but i know ur type. Back in the day u’r the white person with the “my best friend is black” response to being racist u’ve just stepped it up a notch, Virginia Thomas.

Ur comparing isolated random attacks to mass enslavement and murder, and no u don’t appreciate my passion becuz ur obviously out of touch. Bein in a interracial relationship doesn’t make u an expert on how blacks deal with our history.

Like i said, i know ur type. U’re just tryin to put us on the same level of ur inhuman actions. I don’t know if it’s that white guilt r just the usually thing with u ppl of tryin to be some kind of white savior.

When r ya’ll gonna learn u’r not God in any way, shape r form. U might have some negro fooled with ur pale face, but u can bat ur eyes some other one cuz this one ain’t selling out for ya.

@ihateinteracial

kslow16 is the white woman in the pic not the black man.

MY inhuman actions?! MINE?! I certainly have never enslaved, killed, or oppressed a black person in my life. There it comes again…. attributing things to me personally, because of a skin color. My “pale skin” makes me one way or another? You know my type?! Where have I heard all this before…….? Oh yeah. It’s called racism.

blknall

i see well that explains its ridiculous cooments

but then again that may not be her even in the pic for we all know how european men love dressing up as or getting served as or impersonating a woman on the internet.

but if she is in fact a euroepan woman

dont mind her

for she is proably into bdsm and getting spit on and peed on and being roughed up and slapped during sex by one of us dominate afrakan men, she obvioulsy have some sick fetish of being a slave to the afrakan man like her anscetors in italy and spain were enslaved by the afrakan moords

what other reason would a pale woman come on a site calle d blackplanet for?

certainly not for conversation she is on here for a mandingo stud

i see pass these pale and pink womens b.s

they jst wanna get fkd by niccas point blank

blknall

u mean a pale woman we afrakans with logik( i spell it with a k) dont call them whtye we either call the onyinbo’s or pinkys or pale people or simple europeans or cave people lol which ever u prefer but dont call them whyte ever ever ever

blknall: “If u mean durin the slave trade that the whites started, that’s not what i’m talkin about.”

Actually, John Casor (Castor) was the first slave for life – his owner was an Angolan African (black) indentured servant (I m serious, google it). This is how it all started in the US… and slavery existed far before whites come there… But still you are right to say that there is no way the same racism when a black kills a white because of his skin color, because there was never such oppression (and wide-known “supremacy” theories) of whites by blacks…

slavery existed in Africa far before whites come there, i mean lol

ihateinterracial said@
“no im talken about when afrakans were here before anyone else and then the asians who were more like the tiger woods type back then went to war with the afrakans here in america and then we lost and the half breeds created out of it enslaved many of the remaining groups of afrakans but we also enslaved them as well.”
_______________________________

danm!!! I digg that cuz alot of us think the Mongolian lookin peoples are the ORIGINALS of this land called North America. which is funny cuz alot of them b lookin chinese

SURE A WHITE PERSON CAN BE PRO-BLACK! BLACKS ARENT THE PROBLEM RIGHT NOW…LOL!

kslow16 @ we DID have european slaves….

‘blackmail’ and paying ‘tariffs’ comes from us extorting them
puttin their european womben in our harems (wh0re houses)

even in early America/USA history…. up until the 1800s, we use to be robbing and kidnapping them for ransom any chance we got if we caught em on the ocean. they say we cant swim but we made sum damn good navigators/pirates lol

notice how the spaniards bred the dis-like of black folks (MOORenos) into the people they conquered (so-called latinos)???

notice how Italians have a funky attitude when we come around???

our hands aint exactly clean either….before there was a ‘white’ devil there was a ‘black’ devil cuz remember THEY are our children

The level of stupidity on this site is comical at best. When you start to think and act like your enemy you have already lost your personal battle. When you have been judged, held back, profiled, criminalized, demonized and oppressed and then in return decide to have the same mindset about another group of people you have become part of the very thing that has held you down which is the emotion known as FEAR. There are only 2 real emotions, love and fear. From fear comes hate and then everything is down hill from there.

I love all people. mankind. humanity. I think race and knowledge of self are very important. I love the cultures and variety of people around the globe. Life without them would be very very dull. I have 2 interracial children. When I see the comments about whites on this site who are trying their damnedest to be aware of what has happened and what is happening it makes me hang my head low. White people messed up everything from the jump and have continued to do so, and looks like they will into the future. White people have been mean and cruel beyond description. Most of white society cannot relate to people who do not look like them, it is true that they think of other people as lesser than themselves. white society has a long long long way to go and much room for improvement and enlightenment. I have no problem saying that you will be hard press to find whites who will treat you as an equal person.
With that being said I just want to say thank GOD Almighty for the righteous white people who stand up to be counted and take the heat for doing so. Is it the heat that blacks take from whites? hell no. Is it real heat though, best believe it. You catch hell from both sides. Nobody wants you. Everyone wants to be treated equal but nobody treats any one equal.

If you pass any judgement on a man’s heart, attitude, outlook or character based on the color of his skin you are part of the problem. I am you and you are me, like it or not. The real revolutionaries who unite with brothers of all colors out numbers any group that comes up against us. We are getting bigger and bader everyday. We on the rise so hard. We got men and women getting on board world wide. People who know and understand true love and true brotherhood are going to take over this world. We may live to see it, we may not, but I promise that we will be part of the battle that makes the wheels keep moving foreword until one day when we will take the head off any man who thinks he is superior because of the color of skin the universe choose him to be.

GOD Bless all people of all nations
peace love respect

f**kin bastards

I can understand why race is such a heated discussion… but this will never end… I am black.. and I’m at the point where I feel that everyone should just get on with their lives and stop worrying about the past… we have come a long way because of the help of our ancestors as well as some white people who saw that it wasn’t right how the black people were being treated… and we are still going strong… I don’t see a problem with white people standing up for “black” rights because you have a lot of white people out there who are honestly trying to help the situation… my husband is white and he is one I can for sure speak for on the civil rights issue… I’m happy with my life.. I’m not thinking about slavery because I wasn’t born then.. I thank God for my ancestors who fought for us to be free and to be equal… and I’m going to go on with my life.. head held high and I don’t give a damn who has anything to say about it… because God made everyone and when we die we all turn into dust so just get over it and live your life… Oh yeah and to the people who are against interracial relationships… who gives a f**k? lol.. your kids or grandchildren will more than likely be dating outside of their race.. and then what? It’s so stupid to me.. you love who you love and you can’t help who you fall in love with.. keep that in mind… because like I said before God made everyone so if he made everyone why should it matter who your with? IT DOESN’T… grow the f**k up..

SoularFlarez

YEA AND IM NOT ONE OF THESE PEOPLE WHO WILL DENOUNCE THE LATER END OF THE MAAFFA WHERE WE WERE TAKEN FROM AFRAKA AND PT HERE BUT MANY NEED TO KNOW THE FIRST PEOPLE IN AMERICA WERE NOT THE SO CALLED NATVIE AMERICANS BUT BY THE TIME WE AFRAKANS WHO WERE ENSLAVED GOT HER MOST HAD DIED OFF OR MIXED HEAVLY.

houri

THIS IS NOT A BIG DYCK MANDINGO BDSM CUCKHOLD WEBSITE THIS IS A SITE CALLED BLACKPLANET I HAVE SAID IT ONCE AND ILL SAY IT AGAIN THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A PALE PERSON BEING AROUND US AFRAKANS WHO DOESNT WANT TO GET FKD BY US OR FK US

MEANING HAVE SEX WITH US

PERIOD

Head-nod @ poster, John Brown:

“When you start to think and act like your enemy you have already lost your personal battle.”

There it is…

Bonita_Mami16

HONESTLY YOU ARE NOT QUALIFIED TO SPEAK ON THE TOPIC OF RACE WHAT SO EVER UR IGNORANCE OF UR OWN AFRAKAN HISTORY I CAN SMELL A MILE AWAY LIKE HOTT SHET AND CAN SEE A MILE AWAY LIKE A HOTT FIRE WITH SMOKE ALL THE WAY UP TO THE MOON.

ANYONE WHO SAYS JUST GET OVER THE PAST IS AN I.D.I.I.O.T AND ALL PEOPLE LONG FOR THE GREATNESS OF THERE RESPECTIVE RACES OR ETHNIC GROUPS ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY ARE NOT WHERE THERE ANSCETORS USTO BE.

PEOPLE LIKE U ARE TERRIIBLE TERRIBLE I.D.I.O.I.T.S FOR U ASSUME WHEN ONE ESPECIALLY AN AFRAKNA PERSON BRINGS UP HISTORY THAT WE R GONNA BE TALKEN ABOUT A TINY SPEC OF OUR HISTORY FOR IF U HERE SLAVERY BEING SPOKEN BY AN AFRAKAN

U CANNOT ASSUME WE R SPEAKING ABOUT SLAVERY WITH US BEING ON THE RECEVING END FOR THERE ARE MANY SPOTS IN OR HISTORY WHERE WE ENSLAVED OTHERS FURTHER MORE

HISTORY IS TO BE CHERRISHED AND KEPT ALIVE AS IF IT HAPPEND YESTERDAY

HENCE WHY ONE DAY CHINA WILL ATTACK JAPAN FOR THE HORRIBLE THINGS THEY DID TO CHINA OR HOW US AFRAKANS WILL ATTACK EUROPEANS AND ARABS FOR THE HORRIBLE THINGS THEY R STILL DOING AND HAVE DONE.

TO FORGET ABOUT HISTORY IS THE SIGN OF SOMEONE WHO DOENST LIKE WHAT THEY ARE POINT BLANK.

phazex_female

NOT WHEN THE WAY UR ENEMY IS THINKING IS THE WAY ALL CONQUERS AND SUCCESSFUL GROUPS OF PEOPLE THINK

U ARE ANOTHER CLASSIK EXAMPLE OFA DUM FKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK

TO ANSWER THE QUESTION,

HELL NO!!!

ALSO,

BIG UP MR I HATEINTERACIAL.

THE 16 STATES,

FIYAH BURN BLACKS THAT THINK THEY ARE NOT BLACK!!

LAVAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!1

TheRealJohnBrown13

THE FACT U BROUGHT UP THE WORD GOD WHEN SPEAKING ON HISTORY OF RACES IS COMICAL

AND THEN TO GON AND TRY TO PREACH WHEN THE RELIGION U SPEAK OF IF IT WASENT IN FACT FOR ABHARA OF ETHIOPIA ACCEPTING CHRISTINAITY WHEN CHRISTINIANTY WAS ONLY 400 YEARS OLD WOULDNT EVEN BE A WORLD RELIGION TODAY AND THE LATER HALF OF THE MAAFA PROABLY WOULDN EVEN HAD HAPPEND FOR CHRISTINAITY AMONG OTHERS THINGS TRULY WEAKNED THE AFRAKAN RACE AND CONTINENT AND U WANNA PREACH AS IF U HAVE KNOWLEDGE

FKKKKKKKKKKKKKK YOU

ND WHAT YOU STAND FOR P.U.S.S.Y

HATE WHEN U DM MATA FAKAS WANNA PREACH AND DONT NO SHET ABOUT AFRAKAN HSITORY

OH WAIT

MY BAD AM I A racist FOR BRINGING UP THE FACT THAT CHRISTINAITY SOLEY DEPENDT ON APPROVMENT FROM AFRAKAN NSWT’S TO BE THE SUCCESSFUL RELIGION INNUMBERS THAT IT IS TODAY?

NO IT MEANS IM STATING FACTS

PEOPLE LIKE U GET IN THE WAY OF PROGRESS AND I PERSONALLY WOULD LOVE TO HANG U MYSELF BT SINCE THAT WONT HAPPEN I WILL TAKE SATISFACTION IN EXPOSING U FOR ALL READERS TO SEE THAT UR GOD TALK GETS IN THE WAY OF HUMAN AND AFRAKAN PROGRESS.

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SoularFlarez

NOTICE HOW THE EUROPEANS IN THIS THREAD SUDDENLY DISAPPEARED

THEY DID A CASPER

U ARE 1000 PERCENT CORRECT

BEFORE THERE WAS A PALE DEVIL THERE WAS A BLACK DEVIL

NOT SOMETHING TO BE PROUD OF BUT IT IS FACT

GGGIAN1

YEA ASANTE SANA

WE NEED TO ALWAYS KNOW OUR HSITORY THE GOOD GREAT AND HELLA BAD

Why is there so much hate towards our own… if you do well youre hated on…if you do bad youre hated on…if youre light youre hated on…if your dark…if your skinny…if youre fat….if youre cute…if youre ugly…?

I dont get it…where is the love of self if you find so much wrong with someone else?

Positive always is more productive than negative…and thats real! Uplift one another instead of driving someone down. How can things improve if you dont?

hope_angel2

ur stament shows u need to work on growing more

for when u uplift one u beat down another at the sametime even if its indirectly

u build something and u destroy something at the sametime thats just the way it is.

ihateinteracial

I never said anything about Christ or Christianity. I believe in one God. thats it.

you f**king redneck. bet ya momma got 3 teeth, 1 in her mouth and 2 in her pocket. trace your redneck ass bloodline right back to West Virginia. you black but your soul lust to be in a white devil’s body so you can can take the hate you spew to another level.

does typing in all caps mean you are yelling?

talking all that s**t about Africa while your ass is in Spring Valley, CA.

Some white b***h in Cali turned your ass down while you was trying to get some p***y and now you a AFRICAN.
GTFOOHWTBS. LMAO

Oh I am in Atlanta anytime and i do mean anytime you feel like trying to hang me up you just let me know. I am not hard to find in this city, I kinda stand out where I live like you do in sunny Spring Valley, California. I know more real Africans on my block than you do period. WHAT YOU REALLY KNOW ABOUT THE DIRTY SOUTH.

Oh yea, your hair is pretty. for a b***h.

You can reply all you want after this you f**king internet thug f**k ass pretty ass punk boi. I know you cant help yourself. so type in all caps again and tell me some more real mean s**t thats going to make me change my mind and admit that you are right and superior of me.

This motherf**ker 22 and talking all this s**t.

You couldnt lift my ball sack.

Everyone watch him reply now as I leave blackbigot.com

Spring Valley thugs stand up!

ihateinteracial

Well if what you say is true… Ignorance is bliss…I’m happy with myself, love my people, and love God.

Salaam brotha

There were WHITE PEOPLE in the Civil Rights Movement in the 1960′s. I think it’s very important that white people were avid supporters and a part of the movement because they were white… and they knew and acknowledged the fact the blacks deserved the rights they had. They understood the fact that all people were created equal. If a white person chooses to advocate for whites it’s not wrong in anyway because they see and believe that there are injustices and that these things must change.
Who in the entertainment industry has ever advocated for the progression of rights in the black communities? Ron Artest? Kobe Bryant? Jay Z? Reggie Bush. How far has Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton gotten us? Yay… Obama is the President.. but the Congress passes laws and congress is majority Caucasian. Who is really unselfishly looking out for the interests of black people/ black welfare…BET?? Don’t get me wrong They each surely have given back to some extent, but they don’t commit time and money like a Black Panther or at least NAACP do. These are people committed to $$$ anyway you look at it. They will surely show up for an NAACP award though…

to answer the question..there are white people who help out the black cause just like there are men who helped out the women’s cause; same difference. If you believe strongly about something it shouldn’t matter what your skin color is or in my other example, gender. Anyone who says otherwise is just ignorant. No one can accomplish anything on their own, in the face of social change. We all have to come together, no matter black, white, yellow, purple, in order for true change to occur. How can we expect others to accept us for who we are and treat us as equals if you think they’re inferior or superior to you!?

-typo- advocate for blacks

her_shez_kissez21…you are so right. kudos!

blknall, which parts of Africa and what degree of development are you speaking of? I mean if I’m ignorant, fine. I’m ignorant. But, instead of insults, you need to simply give me the information I lack….Uh…

And even then, it’s a moot point since we’re talking about history and nothing can be done about that. All we can do is vary in our opinions. Big deal.

The future is what’s at stake and thus the only truly relevant issue.

And on that note, I’ve made it pretty clear the future of blacks in America, is up to blacks…..

LOL

Oh. And, “ERACISM!!!” (Whatever that is….LOL)

From wikipedia “African slave trade”:

Elikia M’bokolo, April 1998, Le Monde diplomatique. Quote:”The African continent was bled of its human resources via all possible routes. Across the Sahara, through the Red Sea, from the Indian Ocean ports and across the Atlantic. At least ten centuries of slavery for the benefit of the Muslim countries (from the ninth to the nineteenth).” He continues: “Four million slaves exported via the Red Sea, another four million through the Swahili ports of the Indian Ocean, perhaps as many as nine million along the trans-Saharan caravan route, and eleven to twenty million (depending on the author) across the Atlantic Ocean”[1]

LOL

TheRealJohnBrown13

wow ur one angrey homosexual

well thats good ur angrey because you will give me some entertainment

now where should i start with u huh?

lets see for starters u said im afrakan living in spring valley calfornia an afrakan i guess according to what ur implying suddenyl becomes something else as soon as they move to another area of the earth lol suddenly the zebra looses his stripes and become a giraff ur logik alone is enough to have me fubble a gun in my hands and my hands be weaked with laughing at u before i muster enough strength to shoot you lol funny guy

you beleive in the pale man the european is the creator of ur world and the eividence is in the fact that who u his terms when speaking of some so called divine being ur using a german word god which then comes from greek to make ur stament that u beleive in some higher power hahahahaha

all my deitiys

to name a few r chnago,ogun,eshu they dont sound german now do they?

fking i.d.i.o.i.t

also

ur homo eroticsm will not go unnoticed lol

u have refrenced sevral times to ur testcle area and to long hair makes a man a bytch which wuld lead one to say

you are an overt aggressive down low homosexual

and if my hair is long which it is and u are saying that makes me a bytch then with that logik you would try and have sex with me then?

you are a phaggot and big dogss like u get pent down and get hott objects inserted deep in ur colon out in the middle of no where and then set on fire

u kno some real afrakans yea as real as that continental afrakan off that doucmentry talken about he like s fking men.

ur a disgsuting sad pathetic low life sc** criminal who i assure you is working for the man or slanging weed that is only enough to get u some food off of micky d’s dalla menu

phaggot

phaggot

phaggot

phaggot

phaggot

ur a homosexual and u sould watch ur mouth in person id find great pleasure in killing two birds with one stone ,not only are u the type of negro to get in the way of progress but ur a homosexual the type whom spreads hiv and herpes to our sisters

i want everybody to re read this phaggots homosexual erotic to some comments and tell me he dont need to be se ton fire?

and then he wants to go off and start speaking about some real afrakans

lol and stay off my page phaggot the only brothas pages i go to are afrakan centerd pro afrakan brothas with knowledge visble knowledge on there page

u give a new meaning to homo erectus

phaggot

p.s

if u the savege and the barbarian then i am the civilizer and the punisher

u would last 10 minuets in a one on one with me with or without gloves

savege now go back to the dirty slum of city u and ur homo boys r from

hope_angel2

dont come at me like we on the same side

i want u to teach the class

how can one stand with someone and not offend someone at the same excat time?

last i checked if u stand with my enemy that makes u my enemy even if u just playen checkers with em.

oh and here we go with this god shet again

thank chango and the great watoto who have not come down yet that i have enough sense to not be invovled into any world religion that was used to enslave my people

and u wanna say ignorance is bliss dum half breed

leave me with all brotha talk u aint my equal more like a unwanted step sister i think u need to go talk with that homosexual TheRealJohnBrown13 living in the mecca of gay afrakans atl a.s.s koon since u have so much displeasur withmy words

Her_shez_Kissez21
3-16-2010 9:41 pm

oh hush ur mouth and go fk wanna of these down low homosexual brothas like TheRealJohnBrown13 and let him make u one of the newest hiv carriers.

hmmmm

whats up

Her_shez_Kissez21
3-16-2010 9:41 pm

oh hush ur mouth and go fk wanna of these down low homosexual brothas like TheRealJohnBrown13 and let him make u one of the newest hiv carring victems.

TheRealJohnBrown13

i think u an old man XL_611 would make a perfect master slave couple lol ha u phaggot have him dress u all up and youll look as nice as tyler perry so good in fact the other lady boys will say there he goes miss lady in pink lol phaggot

again how long my people will we allow these disturbing homosexual weird overtly aggressive down low koons speak on our behalf?

this phaggot after throwing his silly pretty n pink homo erotic baby kissing lil wayne on the lips tempertantrm i am left with only one conclusion

all afrakan men world wide who attack other afrakan men who want to do good for our people time and time again these are homosexual brothas

now days they aint even ashamed

this man blantanlty was giving all kind of unwanted hints about how he like having sex with men

me shaking my head

i declare war on all brothas who use homo erotic terms

such as telling another man to suck my dyck is gay
saying im going to beat ur ass is gay
im going to f**k you up is gay prision sex talk and my gay prision sex talk of the day award goes to none other then the phaggot from ATL

MISSES DONT CALL ME MR TheRealJohnBrown13

CLAP DRUMS HAHAHAHAHAHA

I guess it looks like my pale playa face got me messed up again,trying to fight through the bigots on BP who hate cause of the color of my skin,
seem like hate never will cease but theres always something to fight for in the end,
who are we to judge another based on the shade of color yo , hatred aint some s**t you born with its something people with hate sow,
I f a black woman can kindle a flame in my heart that makes me wanna love,then who are you to say I cant have what my heart has learned to trust,
Things have changed alot over time ,but theres still some out there who love is still trying to find , but I aint sweating what they lacking cause im trying to keep mines.
thats it for now im out of time…….

ihateinteracial = sc** of earth therefore I don’t do what you say or suggest.. I left my comment.. you can read it.. but if you don’t like it don’t get nasty with me… & since you know em so well.. you can go put your back to work for both of us.. or better yet practice utilizing your mouth on a **** cus… NO ONE wants to hear you negativity… go eff yourself DWED!

streetdaze

NAH THE BIGOTS WHO U SPEAK OF DONT HATE UR SKIN I MEAN BE HONEST WITH URSELF WHY WOULD THEY WHEN U CANT EVEN BE EXPOSED TO THE SUN FOR LONG PERIODS OF TIME WITHOUT SUN SCREEN OR ELSE YOU WILL DEVELOPE SOME KIND OF SUN RELATED CANCER ILLNESS OR NOT TO MENTION PEOPLE WITH UR COMPLEXION OF SKIN HAVE FOR SOME REASON SOME OF THE NASTYESS SKIN DISORDERS THE WORLD HAS EVER SEEN SO ITS NOT THAT THESE IMAGINARY BIGOTS WHOM U SPEAK OF DONT LIKE THE COLOR OF UR SKIN LOL ITS JUST THAT THEY DONT LIKE UR PRESSENCE ESPECIALLY UR PRESSENCE AROUND OR ON A FORUM THAT IS SPEAKING ABOUT THE RACES ISSUES OF THESE IMAGINARY BIGOTS OF URS.

I KNO U A EUROPEAN BUT I DONT KNOW IF U AN AGNLO A FRANK A SLAV OR WHAT BUT NONE THE LESS I DONT CARE IF U LIVE OR DIE BUT I WILL MAKE MY PRESSENCE FELT IN PERSON OR ON THE NET WHEN IT COMES TO OUTSIDERS THINKING THEY CAN WALK N TALK AND AMONG ME AND MY FOLK AS IF THEY R INSIDERS.

NOW GO FIND UR IMAGINARY BIGOTS AND TELLEM I SAID HI.

Her_shez_Kissez21

WOW UR SOMETHEN ELSE

NAH NOT REALLY JUST ANOTHER FAT OUT OF SHAPE OVER WEIGHT HEAVY HANDED SOW LOL TYPING ON THE COMPUTER LIKE SHE DONT HAVE HOOFS

OH WELL

I KINDA FIGURE U WOULD RESPOND , anytime u in new orleans come see me, ima show u how we get down, down here, U talk alot of s**t ,

btw interacial why u look like you got that package , real sht man u look like u got hiv or some sht, u drying up homie, mad at that white girl who gave it to u i bet lolllll

yeah you can. http://www.myspace.com/africanconfederate In america you can be whatever you want.

streetdaze

unlike in the 13 century when the ethiopian king came to the aid of troy so it wouldnt be destroyed know brotha or sister is going to come to ur aid

(smile)

lol ur implying u wanna fight me is very offensive to me for i dont even consider u an equal so it would not be fare i suggest boy u go and learn some more tactics then that ufc stuff for about 2 years or so and then i wont go to jail for breaken a major bone in ur body.

lol street daze well i sure will leave u dazed on the street

sorry but aint no benard hopkins over here ill never loose a fight to oyiinbo

oh u stay in new orleans well most of my people whom i met from there still speak like slaves and just arent up to par with my liking so the only time ull catch me in new orleans is if im going to see an ife voodoo preist and thats real for that shet of a state means nothing to me especially onyinbos like urself.

Nothing wrong with it

SEEM like u hate your own race, do i feel some self hating going on , I swear man u ignorant, If you didnt have so many random points of views people might actually take you serious. I just dont see a reason to further this ignorance with you. peace out

yea we have skin dis orders you say and most blacks are prone to diabetes and sickle cell so your point is. If you eat healthy and exercise you can help curb certain illnesses and hopefully be blessed with a healthy life. I just dont see color in people . I just dont understand folks like you, sound like u bitter for a reason , who knows why is on you to get over

streetdaze

the countless number of people who feel threaten by me by itself can count for numerous people who take me serious and then to count my friends and fan fare lol well lets just say im one head of a huge body.

i`m of white skin (middle eastern background) as you can see. A person of white skin can not understand how discrimination feels or how to handle it is because white people do not experience it as much in a majority white population BUT a white person may want to try and help communities. Not just black but asian, latino, middle eastern whatever miniority there is. As corny as it sounds its basic human rights to be treated equally and fairly and people of majority race can see the mistreated occurring to minorities and do feel its unjust eg protests and so forth

Uh, streetdaze? You apparently need to go and read ihate’s page. The man actually goes into detail about how to properly take a bath and brush one’s teeth.

Now, how you can go on and think you’re gonna dis a guy like that, I’ll never know.

But, just give the man his props ANT MOOOOVE ON BABY……….

LMAO

ihateinteracial

talking gun s**t on here? You cant even load a clip. Beat my ass with or without gloves? you so tuff.
bring your ass to eastside of ATL. We sitting outside right now, what is gone happen is you gone f**k up real bad and that San Diego connect gone have you looking over that shoulder. Already downloaded ya pics, finding people when you have a pic, this s**t ant hard to do. You talk so much s**t about everyone that you not going know who is watching your move, we real hard motherf**kers, we love to prove it, we all colors, every shade. We fit in everywhere.

I love it! the more he talks the dumber he looks. This is how i feel about Sarah Palin, keep talking, the more you talk the more my point is made. Below is a part of what is on his bio page. LMAO Read this s**t below and you will understand what I am talking about. I couldn’t make this s**t up. Surprised he didn’t put it in all caps.

“big thing is hygine being clean and alway wiping ur anus after taking a number 2 and then getting into the shower letting the water down ur anus and then put soap in the area and let sit then scrub the rest of ur body and then wash the soap out with water. always brush ur teeth after every mean put on deodorent wax ur %#&@$!l areas i have no idea why some women dont wax there %#&@$!l areas it beats me but u sisters need to start doing that way more alot more. women sisters please starting working out more sisters bdsm is where its at look into it and find ur role that is you. sisters make sure ur %#&@$! smells like honey something sweet. love yall stay healthy and eat better and feel better.”

You need help. I just read this s**t out loud and can’t even get through it without laughing out loud.

you punk ass p***y ass f**k boi. tell ya moms I said whats up.

streetdaze

and ur people have the lowest birth rate in the world besides the so called native americans especially when compared to us afrakans and those of the asians
lol beat that bytch
also from looking at european history ur people have been on a doomsday clock since hitler fell which was ur last chance to become a domnate race of the world so its just a matter of time before another world war that will further find two european men fightitng other european men which will further make the already high possibility of u people going extinct ever more of a present issue that u all will have to deal with.

pale man son of the aglo or frank or whom or what ever i say this kindly ur race is dying and one more world war should do it i suggest u not think those guys on stormfront r just a bunch of krazys and start hearing em out

the pale mans domination over the darker world is ending and u people are ever more following out of the shadow of ur former selfs become weaker and weaker by the day

one more world war

so lets pray that isreal will attack iran lol then will have arabs and europeans dying over madness and the rest of the role will use strategy to find ways to further topple europe or wait russia will have fun picking off its own brothas.

listen u oyinbo i am apart of the most anceint race on the planet u are beneathe me which is why u feel the need to respond i am like ur daddy u wish when u look at me that i was ur daddy u wanna be my race i dont wanna be urs im content with my space black jet black daddy

but it is u who seeks a daddy in me

poor poor oyinbo

like my anscetors said

you people act like children

It is one thing to be involed in anti Klan rally’s but this guy is buying into political hip hop which if I recall was racist against white people, and the black panthers who stomp on the american flag and craker this and honkey that. This guy is an ass kisser.

streetdaze

i want all people on the planet to live in peace and i want all people to be on equal footing but i have acceppted the fact that this will only come threw educaton (commonoly not found in schools) and for the hard headed of the world nothing short from bombs bullets and what ever else.

all people smile and all people cry which means we pretty much all want the samethings but there r limits and i am a man of many things including limits and freedoms but when it comes to my phenotype and the complexion of my skin and texutre of my hair i want to preserve it at almost what ever cost.

now just how u will respect a homosexual person even tho ur not into it i ask for the same respect on my stance that i do not condone nor would i tolerate my kids to have babys with other race of men or women,just take XL_611 advice and move on and go watch some porno videos with vannesa blue lol nah but honeslty

all people of the world and all of there various kultures afrakan asian european indian should all be used to solve problems and create solutions according to there paticular kulture and we should all have a turn on the planet to celabrate one anothers kulture or at least repersent them fairly and equally.

id go as far to say maybe there needs to be a land where people who choose to mix race should be allowed to live alone by themselfs and produce all the mixed babys of what ever race that they so choose and by doing this it would end blood shed and the natrual fighting that occurs when ones woman or man goes off with another.

picture a place where the homos could go over here and the race mixers over there etc the world would be a better place but since people choose not to respect peoples kultures we have war rape and everything else that comes with it and

surley if isreal an illegal country as it is an have its own so called jew land then so can the race mixers.

p.s

u will be hard pressed to find more people of all races who support race mixing then people who do for race mixing in order for it to be successful while one new is being born an old is be knocked off and not produced and thus the orginals are forced to surrender to the demands of the ever growing mixed population.

north afraka and parts of east afraka r perfect examples as well as some asian countries which border russia as well.

p.s

check out nicholas sarkozy of france and view his polics towards moslmes and us afrakans and tell me is it wrong?

me personally when mr sarkozy the current president of france said

he wanted to know what the french public thought of what does it mean to be french

he was really saying do the french people think french means european pale

is he wrong for that? or a man who is concerd with another moorish style take over or mexcian type overrunning of the european country?

respect other peoples kultures

blackdiamond184

There are plenty if not a majority of crakers and honkies in our race. dont get it twisted. f**k a flag too.

blackdiamond184

in other words ur saying ur own pale european brotha is a sellout are u not?

of course u are.

i comend u for being honest

any pale man who associates with non europeans more then his own(unless hes making money off of them) is a sellout

accodring to blackdiamond184
and eveyr other self respecting person who wants there kind to act accodringly.

TheRealJohnBrown13

perfect

well i will be able to test out opperation zayo

not only am i excited but im thrilled u will have people watching me im very impressed that a low life savege such as urself could have a connect in san diego take the time to watch me well since anythang else i say will be FBI material i will just say

opperation zayo

heRealJohnBrown13
u homosexual pretty in pink a.s.s coon

i also am making a youtube page where u will be able to really get a good look at me and note in the city of san diego i make myself very avaliable(smile)

so come on homosexual and ur homosexual cartel

sitting outside like a bunch of over weight out of shape homosexuals low life s.c.u.m bags with not an ounce of intimidation in u natrually just a bunch of hott air being blown up ur anus from ur pal sitting next to ya

phaggot lol hahahahahahaha

ur making me really want this showdown here my dear phaggot enemy but like an elder said to me

well over the course of the next few days or months or year we will kno who is serious out of the two when the other aint typing on the computer anymore.

u want a predator one who preys on other predators well thanks then my guy with ur silly looken phaggot homosexual self u made the right chocie im ur canidate.

have fun with google map phaggot

p.s

u bums is outside hollering at transexuals and getting turnd down lol hahahaha the transexuals mad tellen u and u phaggot boys that they not into pot bellys absoultely not

phaggot

shanicey

u have pale skin not whyte

but ur comment was well recieved and its a blessing that there r people like urself who live and breathe.

also we r not minoritys

afrakans alone number at about a billion and we r all over the world and expected to have a population boom so we r not the minoritys as a whole europeans and so called native americans are.

Ihateinteracial
Unfortuently in a majority white population like england, america, australia there will always be minorities and most people in blackplanet are connected to one of those countries at least.
But like i have always have been saying if you take ALL the minorities out from these countries they wont have a country no more as at the end they are a majority. They obviously they have a physical country and population but not as much, Financial strength will go down completely and the government will be a target from other countries.. That is a relatity.
But european people i believe have the right like anyone else to fight for peoples rights. Not just in there own country but should focus on other countries to and not limit it to racial but to women rights also as many countries do abuse it to there own advantage

Blknall…again I’m sorry but I don’t comprehend…

Why would the 1st thing you suggest…just because they happen to be white and adopting…that they don’t have their best interest at heart? Although it’s “possible”…why did you feel the need to point out the worst case scenario instead of the more probable “I care about this child” ???? How does that make sense??

The white person calling you a “Waste of skin” doesn’t make much sense whatever. You mean a white person can’t insult you as a human being in any way possible without it being twisted as racist ??

And now you’re saying “just because a white person signs up to a cause doesn’t mean they’re committed to it”. That is the most BS I’ve heard in a long time…I’m sorry. With all due respect…I don’t see how you can say “whitey is this and that and hates blacks” when some are trying to help half effort or not. If they didn’t care at all…they wouldn’t help at all. And frankly….as a black person can you say you’ve done even half of work to help other races or groups? Or is it only a one way street ??

In order to overcome racism it will need cooperation from some of all races. Otherwise it will just be an endless race war. The very fact that we’ve come this far shows that there are a reasonable amount of whites that care. Now of course you have white supremacists..but you also have the blacks who say “Kill all the honkies”. So how are they helping? It’s wrong to assume the mentality of someone simply based on their skin color

_A_ and blknall I think you’re both missing XAK47′s argument. She’s not denying racism or anything of the sort. What she’s saying is…it isn’t logical to hate someone simply based on skin color. At the end of the day you can’t justify it…it technically makes no sense. It goes with the assumption that a person’s brain is programmed simply based on skin color. We can fight for equal rights..and fight for discrimination…but the minute we treat someone different because of skin color we become hypocrites of the very thing that was used against us

AND XL611..idk where you get your facts from…but the fact of the matter is Africa and it’s different nations were advanced during it’s time. Europeans benefited from slave labor…which probably funded all the “advancements” you speak of. So again..factually false, and it’s quite ignorant for you to say that

Correction fight against discrimination

And blknall…MLK was killed…but so was Malcolm X…by blacks. Did you forget that too??

I mean..your logic about “the white man made themselves our enemy” logic doesn’t hold up. Again…All white people are not in some broad organization thinking as a whole with the same thought process. White is a skin color…they’re humans that are born everyday just like us. To suggest it makes sense to hate white people in general would be like me killing someone’s family for revenge even if they had nothing to do with the problem. It makes no sense..people don’t choose to be white..black..or asian. So no it’s not warranted..until you can logically and reasonably explain why it makes sense to hate an individual for their skin color rather than their deeds and actions

So I beg to ask blknall…In about 18 years a 3 yr old white kid will be a grown adult. Will you call that white person an oppressor just because he was fortunate..or unfortunate enough to be born white?? Again I’m trying to grasp the logic

Lol @ calling someone a sellout for helping others..then turning around and criticizing them when they dont help

The human race has done some pretty dumb things throughout history…Killing people for being “witches”…Slavery and bigotry…hating someone for being born into their race…rape..war…Genocide…if there is a God he must have given up on us a long time ago

ihateinteracial… well how insightful… Now I know all that you say is B/S cus that isn’t even an accurate description of me… Some life you have sitting here spitting B/S about other people and what the heck they should do with their lives.. I just came on here to show a friend what I wrote and you done had 10 other post on your B/S… If you wanna see the effect of BET… and all them degrading images of black people.. pay attention to this dude… in reference to ihateinteracial… all you have to do is look in the mirror and see you don’t love yourself… so sad…

Perionne? The first university in Africa was none other than Timbuktu, founded in the 14th century, and based upon Islamic teachings, including mathematics.

Like I said before, africans had been running around for hundreds of thousands of years. The best I’ve found so far with respect to having an understanding of math is a bone found in the ’60′s which some claim holds patterns of prime numbers or some such and they further suppose it has to do with lunar cycles, which they conclude means it was owned by a woman to keep track of her menstrual cycles. Oh, it’s 25,000 years old.

I guess I should mention a couple of children’s games involving cups, shells and beans, used to teach counting. But, they didn’t have a date for it’s origin.

There are ZERO ancient african cities of antiquity.

So, what advancement are you speaking of exactly? And what happened to them?

LOL

If Malcolm X were still alive, he would be a MAJOR BLOGGER on this very topic. We all know (or SHOULD know) the history of non-blacks trying to support blacks in America and in other countries, as well….But 4 every white person, who tries to help, there’s ALWAYS some that attempt 2 “exploit” or take advantage of black liberty. Face it; Abe Lincoln may have “helped” the blacks but guys, like Vanilla Ice, screwed it back up! The search 4 ethnic equality continues….

STOP COMPLAINING ABOUT RACE, YOU DONT GET AHEAD CAUSE YOU EXPECT IT TO BE GIVEN TO YOU. go get yours, and stop bi tchin

Had it not been for sympathetic whites, much of the work of Harriet Tubman would never have occurred. Also, whites lost their lives helping in the Civil Rights cause, too….

There are obviously a lot of pro-black people in America…how do you think Obama won the election? In the 2008 presidential election 41 million White people voted for Obama….just under 8 million Black people voted for him..which means White voters put him in the White House.

I am white…and I am pro-Black. Actually, let me clarify. I am pro-Black in regards to men like Barack Obama, Malcom X, MLK, Thomas Sankara, Patrice Lumumba… the list goes on, and not to discount women. In comparison to these individuals (most of whom lived and died by their convictions which compelled them to fight for progress, against racial oppression, and provided a voice for their people), what will this generation do to further any of it? Whenever someone steps forth to begin a new revolution in the face of white America, there will always be white people and people of every other race to step forward. Maybe there will be those who will do so for their own advantages, but most will be risking all they have to stand up for what’s right, too. To say that all white people who are pro-Black or who took part in the civil rights movement did so for their own gain would suggest that no white person has any issue or resentment to the practices, policies, and lies of our goverment. Yes, Abe Lincoln wrote the Emancipation Proclamation for another purpose than to simply free the slaves. Yes, white abolishionists took part in the abolishion of slavery out of religious conviction, not because they believed in equality. Mark Twain fought against the genocide in Congo, where Belgium in connection with the United States helped in murdering millions upon millions of Central African peoples to serve the needs of the West…. don’t discount us all.

ok…honestly im so tired of hearing of “Black Americans’ struggles.” ok…wat struggles do they have that white ppl don? wat is it that we have that they don? please…god….someone tell me…so i can give to yall…so i can help cus im so tired of bein hated for wat someone who prolly isnt even related to me did. its 2010….please…get…ova…it.

“ok…honestly im so tired of hearing of “Black Americans’ struggles.” ok…wat struggles do they have that white ppl don? wat is it that we have that they don? please…god….someone tell me…so i can give to yall…so i can help cus im so tired of bein hated for wat someone who prolly isnt even related to me did. its 2010….please…get…ova…it.”

Fine, you asked for it so here it goes. When were whites in America lynched and burned for reading a book? When was the last time a white person were “legally” beaten on the street for “disrespecting” a black adult or even child? Your generation of whites have been far removed from the reality of how brutal this system was. This was REAL SH*T!! No Michael Jordan, no Tiger Woods, no Flavor-Flav to entertain you guys! Sorry, but changing a few circ**stances in our society is not going to immediately advance a people that have been held back from growth for over 400 years!! This will take time, pretty much the same thing Obama is saying about our financial system after the Republicans and Bush made a mess of everything!! You might want to bring these things up next time your sitting around the dinner table with your precious family………

This isn’t even a matter of “pro-black” or not. It’s simply if people are courageous enough to stand up against oppression and evil. That has nothing to do with race! MLK stood up for people in other countries because he was given the courage to do so. Even Malcolm X new that there were whites that were genuine in these causes, but working very closely with whites meant easy infiltration from the same spiritual forces that took down Fred, Huey and the rest of the Black Panther Party. Most whites AND blacks are too caught up in their material possessions and livelihoods to actually make a commitment to helping in this cause. Most whites are also fearful of the rejection from their peers as well, real talk!! John Brown was a rare and courageous white man, and for this he deserves respect just like all the blacks that died for our advancement. Peace and l.u.v.!

@__R3D__ you gotta be kidding me lol. @HUGHSMOOV you made some great points but I also mite add blacks didn’t even become so called first class citizens till the 60′s. Sit in the back of the bus, can’t use the same bathroom as whites. Can’t eat in the same restaurant I mean we had to put up with alot BS back then and we still have to put up with some BS.

@Grn_Eyed_QT interesting numbers but I will say this black people are like what 13 million of use here. So the rest of the us probably weren’t old enough to vote. Not counting people that didn’t voe or can’t vote. But white people make up probably 200+ in this country so do the math and you will see what im talkin about.

ihateinterracial

You do not know me nor do you know where I am coming from.. no one said forget the past as if it never existed… it is great to remember the struggle so we will not forget how we got here… but to dwell on racism on a f**king daily basis I think is stupid… you are on here thinking your making some kind of point with people and frankly I am sick of seeing your comments.. because you are rude and your stupid… your the f**king idiot.. the very one who preaches about one thing and probably does another.. sitting behind your computer absorbed in your own little world… so before you insult me or anyone else you better check your damn self… because people like you are the reason why the world is the way it is today… because of ignorance and stupidity… this topic was supposed to be about open discussion about how we feel on this situation… and yes everyone has their own opinion and thoughts but your the dumbass who trys to tear everyone down to see things like you do… take your old ass somewhere and get a girl or something… occupy your time… and stay off my tits b***h

Okey…Monte Smith made alot of accurate valid points about our governments propaganda through media and him being a spy with the KKK just to report us facts and expose only “Racist White People”, not regular white people. I see where he was going with this, but is he trying to market an idea to make money for himself through books, t-shirts or so forth or is Monte Smith really helping our black community to further educate for progress?? What’s your Agenda??

R3D, “honestly im so tired of hearing of “Black Americans’ struggles.” To your response we always and always will be struggling, even when this economy clears up, you still have ignorant people like you who is pathetic. Before you judge somebody, why don’t you put your life to use contributing to society, because otherwise why are you joined to this site? If you have a problem with our people then get the fck outta here you sc**bag!

I’m flattered with some of yall comments, but I met many nice white people who are on our side without being pro-black. They may not be obvoius as far as looks, but when you speak or get to know certain white people they respect all races, because tyhey are not stuck on racial issues. Moreso their focus is on Money, Bills, Automibils and etc.. Basically focusing to their own individual lifestyle. Only racist white invest 90 percent of negative energy on non-whites.

I understand why Bonita Mami16 is angry about what’s been said on this thread. There’s nothing wrong with dating outside the black race. The problem and issue comes when you choose to disassociate yourself with the black race! There are many black women and men that are totally repulsed at the idea of dating someone as dark as them. It’s like a form of self-hatred. I’ve dated a couple of white women in my life and both had committed themselves to dating only black men. My first question for both of them was obviously, why. Once I discussed it with them, I found out that both of them were dating black men as a form of rebellion against their families!!! If you choose to date outside your race, don’t forget about the good ones in your race. Also, if you make that decision, know WHY you’re doing it.

R3D…it’s 2010 and this is just the beginning of war within America, the stakes are higher, but I forgot you are naieve and have your head up your azz to pay attention to society around us once in a while to say the least. You are probably a spoil brat you got it easy till the day yo uare old enough to have a real dose of reality when somebody slap the shyt outta you just to wake up for sudden cause. I don’t know you nor do I care and my voice will carry through your conscience that you have no real life experience, only text book crap by deceptive authors or people around you are simply as uneducated and stupid as you. I bet you would not dare to say what you say in real public. Everyone give this girl applause with the most intelligent comment of 2010…not!

Look… I am FOR anyone who is FOR the betterment of EVERYONE. I don’t think ANYONE should be discriminated against based on anything other than their values, morals, and judgments. And even then, it is not my, or anyone elses place, to judge another’s actions. God handles all of those things. So if you think you are better than God…

Do I look back on the actions of white people in this country and cringe sometimes? Yes. Do I still see things everyday that make me wonder how far we’ve really come when it comes to acceptance? Yes. But to be fair, the more we rub these issues into the faces of Americans, the less likely people are going to be to move on. I don’t think we should forget, but as another member said… we ARE so far removed from that generation, so why can’t we be the generation that makes that leap? We are no longer bound by the traditions, sentiments, and rules of the past. And it is not just a black/white issue. People of every color experience racism. I experience it all the time. I have best friends who are at all ends of the spectrum; racially, socially, and physically… and they don’t judge me. But I’ve been in situations where I’m the minority, and everyone there wanted me to know it.
Racists are bullies. It is just another form of bullying and making yourself feel superior to others. I wouldn’t even label myself pro-black, pro-white, pro-whatever! That is just another label. If you believe that there is a problem with the way a race of people is viewed or treated, then you should stand up for the right thing no matter their color. The whole race issue has gotten so out of control that the issue itself has become an issue… Why can’t we just leave it alone?
I don’t think people really want it to end… Drama seems to be human nature, and if we all got along what the hell would these people do with all their free time?!

HUGHSMOOV…I agree! I dated all races including white girls. I asked the very same question, but the one I spoken with dated her race and blacks. Her response to why was old fashion attraction…she though I was “cute” which is good to know. There are white males at my job she could’ve chosen to date and chemestry pulled her towards me. Remmember Sexiness have no color. I remmember I could not stand this one particular woman who happens to be white (black ladies I don’t only date white women) but her sex appeal had me in a struggle to be sexually attracted over hating her, lol. My first was a black women and my relationship was with a latina so as you can see race is no issue here, only attractive women with appeal. [laughs]

HUGHSMOOV,YOU F**KING IDIOT!!!

HUGHSMOOV,YOU F**KING IDIOT!!!

Why thank you!! What’s wrong, can’t show your face?

Absolutely. Growing up in my town, a few houses from mine, lived a white woman who was actively involved with the Black Panther movement. She was very distrustful of everyone, because of the stuff she participated in the sixties. They do exist, but I still wonder what their motives are, and what makes them sypathize so deeply with blacks.

Bonita_Mami16

and the bells are ringing

and ur still very highly ugly

just sayen

and ur not that smart topics such as race should only be touched on by historians which means people who kno history.

As far as coming up with strategies for getting African Americans motivated and empowered to help themselves, such matters are best left to our own. But if whites want to help educate other whites without trying to be our leaders or control our leadership structures, then that’s fine.

red_head88

please u just have a sick bdsm fetish of us afrakan nubian men pissing on ur pale flesh and giving it to u rough

like i said once before all non races who kick especially pale people with afrakans either want to get fkd by us or fk us.

period point blank or make money off of us and that is the bottom line

all races use spys and agents from other races to get information that leads to an advantege for the race of the spy or agent so if we r speaking in terms of afrakans we being serious and on some mafia type of shet like all the other serious races then of course we will use not just the pinky onyinbo wazungu european but we will use asians and any other race

and most lilkly after there work is done dpending on the rate of success we will takem out and shoot em the back of the head.

so yes any race and work and slave and be an agent for another yes indeed at there own perell
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Some of these posts are over the top and uninformed about AMERICAN history.
To be succinct the answer to the question was specific. Look up the Lowry War, as well as the abolitionists who help some of folks of color at risk to their own safety. I have no beef with this young man.

Check it out yourself and I don’t mean to preach!

Blacks need all the help they can get. They are clearly not standing up to the plate for themselves.

i realy dont like that comment about black people needing all the help they can get but i feel what you mean it just sounds weak. i think all people need help in this country right now.not as black white or brown but as a nation.im pro people and i will help out anyone that needs me to be there for them.

STAY OUT OF MY MIND!!! Miss Weezy 82..

I couldn’t have put it any better.. lol..

LOVE transcends the bounderies of space, time, life, death, race, age, etc which characterizes this force of existence as infinite..

One thing we must all take into account and that is all of our realites are different from each other..

My realitry (the process in which I was brought into the world and was raised/exposure to different elements of the world/ parental conditioning) is different from your reality..

That is why the famous cliche’ “you can’t judge another person until u have walked in their shoes..” is so recognized worldwide..

When one is faced with whatever challenge in life, it is how we face that challenge which makes us human cuz each of is going to respond differently even if similiar..

Point black! There are as many views of the world as there are humans who have walked this planet..

These veiws are to be respected and I noticed that when it comes to racism it is one’s view of how another should exixt in the world relative to one’s own existence and not the color of the skin..

I’ve witness beautiful relationships between all races in very different scenarios and arenas..

Story: I was on the 107 coming from the Bricks (Newark, NJ) and going to Port Authority in NY and as I was trying to get off the bus, I’m putting on my book bag and this older caucasian lady assists me with my book bag and she made this statement afterwards “This is what New Yorkers do!”

At that moment I realized how BLESSED! to be in an environment where everything isn’t going to be perfect but appreciate the differences that actually unite us..

We’re all a piece of the puzzle, no matter if you’re black or white, young or old, good or bad, if you’re walking this planet..

It’s about time everyone just accecpt it..

I’m very glad that I’m unique in the way I look, dress, smell, communicate, live, etc..

I think the number one motivating factor for anybody being pro anything is that they love themselves and want to share love someplace else..

We must not knock the person who has so much love in their hears that they just want to share it..

It is these people that keep this planet a spinnin and make it a wonderful place to help endure the hardships that one faces daily..

I would label whites like Monte Smith as more anti-establishment than pro black, because black culture has always been anti-establishment in America.

@GETFUNKY1 WELL PUT!

This one is easy…
No.

Brotherjohn,if you think separatism is going to work, you’re just an absolute fool. Separatism is actually about eliminationism. Those who demand to be separate, actually want to be removed, or the other removed.

But then that’s the problem. Such people are under a delusion of sorts and you’ll never get through to them because all they understand is this pretty picture in their heads, about how wonderful it would be to live in a different reality.

The reality is, what it always has been. People of all colors and walks of life, need to learn how to get along with each other.

So, until people get that straight, they’ll continue to harbor ill will towards others and have obtuse and negative opinions about others and will continue to act upon those opinions and will never learn to get along with anyone….

LOL

@ odoggz “because she’s practicing escapism by being with him”…is that b/c she’s black & he’s white OR you know something specific about their story that I’m missing?

@ smittytva “white folks are really not that important enough for me to care what they are”…go fuk yourself

@ blknall “I haven’t been to prison”…pussay

XL_611….oh yea I forgot…Egypt isn’t a part of Africa…right?? I mean after all..people often choose to leave Egypt out conveniently.

Were they just “running around” in Ethiopia too(think carefully before answering that one)? What about Nubia…were they running around also? And let’s not forget about medieval Islamic advancements that extended from the Middle East to North Africa, etc.

And I guess that despite TRILLIONS KAZILLIONS(if that’s a word lol) of dollars going to nations that enslaved africans from the 16th century onward…that the economy(which leads to technological advancement) has nothing to do with Africans huh? I guess all those other countries have highly advanced brains to the point where if Africa was never disrupted..no more advancements would come from Africa…right? Are you also forgetting that most African nations didn’t become free until the mid 1900s? How can you talk about “advancements” as if it was a fair competition? Especially since other nations benefited from Africa’s natural resources and labor?

And quite frankly…considering our world racial history…one can even say there are things that may never be found..evidence that may have been destroyed..etc. etc.

Perione, if that’s the best you can do in terms of bringing relevant facts into a debate, KEEP YA DAY JOB!!

LOL

When I think of people like William Kamkwamba…there’s no telling what could have taken place over those hundreds of years…

Anyway…for the first time in thousands of years..the world has an opportunity to be more peaceful. It’s too bad there are those that would rather cloud all of that with racial BS…

XL_611…umm..yea okay. You spoke of Africans like they were all just living in huts and running around in little pieces of cloth. You conveniently left out Egypt…like many historians somehow refuse to connect with Africa. And there were several civilizations relevant in their time including Ethiopia, Nubia, etc. But I understand…you’d rather downplay it for the sake of your own argument

And wasn’t there a University in Morocco founded WAYYY before the 14th century?? Forgot it’s name

So that people of ALL colors, race, creeds can be treated equally ALL kinds of people need to unite. Obviously there are people in every group that are “extremists” and unwilling to unite or cooperate. I feel that once people are willing to honestly (not just say they do) look past skin color then things can move forward. Obviously that is the challenge. We ALL still see color.
I too dream/pray for a day when nobody will be judged based on the color of their skin, black, brown, white or yellow but judged based on the individual.

Perione, your dismay while admirable, is misplaced due to the fact that the real problem is people like you, who only see what they want to see and say what they want to say and believe what they want to believe.

I’ve said a LOT more than the one or two comments you chose to pick out. You’ve completely ignored those. I’m sure you have your reasons. I’m also sure they’re as good as your grasp of history…..

LOL

Is it just me, or am I the only one who senses a hint of irony? No one would expect a Pro-Black Revolutionary who’s white, but hey, he’s down with the struggle. I say right on my vanilla brotha!

No one would expect a pro-black revolutionary? Holy cow. Talk about ignorance of history.

Whew. You people are stunning.

People began organized and substantial opposition european involvement in the african slave trade, in the 16th century. Or, the 1500′s. Or 8 years after Columbus sailed to the new world…….LOL.

Meanwhile, your so called muslim brothers, had been enslaving africans for 500 years earlier, as I pointed out yesterday.

But to hear the talk today, muslims are the black man’s dearest brother….

And the white man, is a shock to believe any good intent…….

Whew. And actually, it’s worse than that. You can point these facts out and if you’re lucky, all you’ll get is deaf ears.

We don’t want to talk about what you’d get in any other case..

LOL

And speakin of muslim enslavers, WHAT YA HOLDIN DOWN WIDDAT MR. FARRAKAHN??????

LMAO

@XL_611: Dude, I’m 16, expect a little ignorance from my part, but I’m glad you cleared things up for me.

Well orbit, let me do you another favor. I don’t know if you’ve heard of the Olmecs, but they were in the americas long before Columbus, and originally came from Africa. They were here there was a land bridge between and not an ocean. Here’s a good link to start

http://www.raceandhistory.com/historicalviews/ancientamerica.htm.

My further advice would be to spend at least a few days, if not weeks and read as much as you can about history of a number of cultures, then come back to these groups. At least you’ll have the truth under your belt and nothing can take you off guard…..

LOL

XL_611….I’m sorry but that BS…especially your sarcasm about my lack of grasp of history given YOUR own comments..won’t work. Especially considering that there wasn’t much to nitpick at

You said when the Europeans arrived the ENTIRE continent was in a relative primitive state…whichever way racist Europeans would define “primitive” of course…

Morocco…which built its 1st university in 859 AD…was not primitive

Egypt…which goes without saying…was not primitive…

Mali….which built one of it’s early universities in 1327…was not primitive…

Ethiopia…was definitely not primitive. And if they were, you need to educate me on how some primitive backwards people protected their freedom..

And Nubia as I mentioned..once independent and influenced by Egypt like other nations…was not primitive

I noticed you completely ignored my previous statements to make light of what you “think” I am…You made points I found factually false..especially the University in the 14th century comment.

As for your comment about muslims and blacks…I didn’t see the connection of comparing that to European enslavement. There was a time when it was widely believed and accepted scientific racism as it related to native americans and Especially blacks. The 20th to 21st century disproves that of course…but although ALL whites were not for slavery/discrimination..the voices weren’t necessarily loud. The international Human Rights wave of the mid-20th century, among the many bills signed as it relates to that…is the reason we are where we are today…

Perionne, generally speaking the entire continent was in a state of primitive cultural development. This is not in dispute by anyone with a shred of understanding.

Secondly, you mention a couple, maybe a few examples where you can point to this and that, all of which were quite late in history. Now, this is obviously an important distinction to make since africans supposedly had a much longer time span with which to develop.

But, it’s no sense in trying to make sense with someone that’s going to do as pleases with the facts, including being the one “nitpicking”, when he’s the one nitpicking..

End of story.

LOL

@XL you are self invested in protecting the Eurocentric status quo and this is an ambitious attempt on BP.

As for you telling Perionne to learn his history, I think its more important for you to un-learn all of the misinformation that you have ingested and that you use to prop up your ego and define yourself. Please go back to the white supremacist site with that and spare us. I think its funny that you actually told the young man to look for “truth” in history books. History books written by who? History books have been feeding lies to both black and white people since the power of racism was discovered.

If you know your history we could not have escaped slavery without the help of some really brave white folks…….Long before the Black Panthers there was a man called John Brown…To this day I still can’t believe he was a white man..Learn your history.

Bottom Line!
Just because he a kracka I should show him some love for spewin rhetoric many black poets have been spewing with more venom since the late 50’s, I gota jump on HIS(Monte) bandwagon?
I’m good
the shlt he saying has been spoken….now ask yourself….how come not 1 black poet has gotten this much Media or nlgga attention? WHERE’S THE LOVE and the SELF!worth….take care of your own when we get that issue resolved then we can aid and assist others but until then my people of hue are the downtrodden around the Globe

YES!!!!! But whitefolk need to openly call their own to task for certain behavior and policies.They must be willing to openly call out the real enemy THE ILLUMINATI,THALMUDIC,ZIONIST JEW who are also their enemy.Then we can talk about whether they qualify or not.

OOO7777,if it weren,t for whites, black people would have never been in slavery in the first place so, they were just correcting what they own kind caused so, they don,t get no hawah from me, they were just righting a wrong created by them.

Posting comments is ambitious? LMAO! Raceandhistory.com is not a white supremacist site. It’s a site about african civilization in pre-columbian america.

Sheesh. Talk about the closed minded….

LOL

The author of this articles is an idiot. Who the hell do they think started the NAACP what a stupid question.

WOW! Are ya’ll listenin to yourselves??? Over half of these comments were so ridiculous I haaad to join this site just to comment on it!!! (but they got cool stuff so Imma stick around te hee hee) :-)

Now that THAT’S out of the way… over HALF of you are feeding into exactly what the white man wants you to feed into! Whether you are white or black or red or purple, I don’t care! If you trace my ancestry back… and I mean allll the way back… I come from Abraham’s seed!!! We all come from Abraham’s seed!!! We are fighting on the same battlefield, fighting the same enemy, and look at us!!! Even when one of our Brothers-in-Christ (Monte in this case) is trying to spread a message of unity and to help end oppression of ANY kind!!! We are sitting here fighting amongst our own brothers and sisters and it’s freakin ridiculous!!!

Go to YouTube and watch “Self-Destruction” with krs-1, mc lyte, heavy d, kool moe dee… for the Stop the Violence Movement… it doesn’t apply to just black folk anymore! Yes, it’s a fact! White man started this crap! And he started waaay before black folk ever stepped into this country! Way before white man ever stepped into this country!! They’ve been doing it to their own women for centuries and centuries!

But now it’s time to see that it is not the color of a skin we are fighting… it is an enemy only second to God Himself! He knows your weakness and look at what he has caused this man to bring out in all of us… all because he is trying to do something good for the love of his brothers and sisters… whether he is white or black or red or purple…

I commend you Monte for what you are doing… God has given you a purpose and despite what people say you keep on speakin!! He gave you a voice to use and don’t let anybody keep you down! We should all be praying for this man that others follow in his footsteps! I hear everybody talkin, but when is the last time any of you actually stepped up to the plate and tried to end racism? Oppression? Segregation? Segregation is a way to keep God’s people from helping one another against the real enemy! And he’s blind-sided half of us into believing that that’s the case! I pray for all of us and hope we can finally “Get the freaking point!” Amen!

We are ALL Brothers and Sisters-in-Christ! Wake up and let’s stop seeing color and start seeing togetherness! The same enemy that is causing you or someone you know marriage problems, is the same enemy causing you, me or someone we know, financial problems!!! he hits us all! So we should fight him together instead of each other for crying out loud! Oh… this is turning into a novelette so I’ll be through…but I’m really ready to preach right now! lol… I just need some country ham, some turnip greens and some cornbread and I’ll be fine…. lol… Peace! God’s Love – G

XL_611…again…primitive in terms of what? Africa has several nations correct? No one would say the ENTIRE comment of Europe was primitive considering major countries like France, England, etc. But many other countries weren’t even nearly as developed as Europe’s major nations…so why can’t you apply the same logic to Africa.

You said there were quite a few things I pointed to that were quite late in history…when the university in Morocco I mentioned is if I’m not mistaken the oldest University to date.

You were speaking of Africa as a country and not a continent. There were several nations..as I mentioned…that didn’t come close to fitting this “primitive” perception you painted. And that’s just what it is. I see light in your other statements as it relates to race relations…and as you can see I’ve challenged others here..not just you. I’m just saying what you stated can be widely critiqued as technically false

*Continent* not comment in the 2nd line sorry

And culture/beliefs also has to be highlighted. Some nations in Africa like the ones I mentioned were indeed relevant for their time. Others may have been widely shaped by beliefs/culture/religion, etc. and thus it’d be unfair to pass judgment. But generalizing the entire continent that way is factually not true

Doesn’t make sense smitty…that would be like holding me accountable for something my grandparents did, makes no sense in reference to the person you responded to

White folks didn’t start slavery, they just bought into it like many other nationalities. Many European and even some South Amercian nations bought and sold slaves. Think of it as the bling of their time. It was the thing to do at the time because of the money involved. Africans fought, caught and sold other Africans into slavery. They didn’t care as long as they weren’t of their tribe. And I don’t care who fights for the cause, as long as it gets the proper amount of vigilance.

Perione. I said continent, not country. Like I say, you see what you want to see and filter everything else out.

However, you do bring up an important point.

Most white cultures were illiterate, insofar as their general populations, until the 18th century.

LOL

@single_409

Thank you for telling the truth.

That remove any ire I hold for the institution of slavery or those who continued it, but still, the truth must be told.

@single409. You are correct, but the issue isn’t who started slavery. We need to look at the dynamics of slavery here in this country. In order for you to do that accurately, you need to refer to what is known as the slave making process. In order for you to take a strong, God fearing, black people and enslave them, you will have to commit some of the most inhumane acts ever known to man. White people had no problem with this. Although the enslavement of another human being can never be justified, the slavery you talk about that was conducted among Africans, never came close to the level of brutality as it did in this country. Slavery among Africans was an accepted term of losing a war to your enemy so they never took brutality to that level, fearing retribution, if they were to lose a war to them in the future. There was still a level of dignity in the treatment of their slaves. Conversely, white people took black expecting mothers, and cut babies out of their stomachs and stomped their heads in the ground, in order to instill fear in the rest. People had arms, legs, and even heads chopped off, just to create an atmosphere of obedience from the rest. These were not isolated incidents, but the norm. In the future, I would strongly urge you do proper research into this matter, and refrain from making silly comments in public.

Your “bling of their time” comment displays an embarrassing lack of understanding or study in this area on your part. I guess, I’m going to have to include you in that as well Johnny_Walker, since you have co signed her comment. In order for the truth to be told my brother, the truth has to be known and understood!

Well, european slave traders were indeed quite vicious. However, less than 10% of african slaves came to the US. Most went to the carribean and south america.

At the time of the civil war, there were less than 4 million held in slavery.

So, indeed. Let’s get our facts straight……

LOL

Anyone here check this story out? This is TODAY. And I don’t see how any white people are involved. Anyone have an explanation? Anyone still think that africans weren’t involved in slave abuses during that era? You’re a bigger fool than me if you do……..LOL

http://newsone.com/world/news-one-staff/ethiopia-is-bridal-kidnapping-capital-of-the-world/

Human cruelty, knows no bounds. Race in particular…….LOL

XL_611….*sigh*…nevermind then. Apparently…although I’ve made my argument respectfully and provided relevant information to contradict yours..I’m only seeing what I want to see.

Btw..just to add. Yes slavery was indeed common once upon a time…so was witch hunting and belief in ghosts lol. But there is…imo…though the crime is equally horrific…a difference in terms of context as it relates to Slavery:Classism and Slavery:Racism. Like I said slavery is bad in general…but I personally see slavery based on racism…especially when you’re invading an entire continent to do so in addition to taking advantage of their resources..as considerably worse. But maybe that’s just me

So, perione…..Your idea of respect is to ignore widely held and accepted views and putting words in people’s mouths and accuse them of saying things they did not say and so forth……

Sir, you obviously don’t have the capacity to make a distinction between respectful and insulting either….

I’m quite certain that continuing any conversation of any sort with this clown is only going to result in further evidence of his capacity for non-sense.

Of which it is no doubt infinite……..

LOL

Know yourselves now, who you are. The sons and daughters of light, or those born unto and shall forever remain, the darkness.

Those who will stand in the light, shall see themselves for their color. Their shape. Their gifts. Their faults. The path that lies ahead and the paths from which they have come. They shall see it all and know what they see to be truth and thus become wise.

To become wise, one has become free. To become free, is to know your way from that of fools. The deceived and truly deceived to such ends they seek to fool others.

To fool another, you need only to conceal the truth. To hide it, as yourself would from it.

And that, is the reason behind every crime known to man.

The criminal, cannot and will not ever reveal the truth.

For then he is known for what he is and what he will do…..

LOL

After having thought long and hard about this, I have come up with the following:

The problem comes with the ‘white man’s burden’, ie., a patronising and condescending attitude towards peoples struggle’s. Also white radicals tend to give up on their own white communities, and hang-onto black/third world people’s struggles. But there is important work white people (like me) can do in our own communities to fight against racism and for progressive ideas amongst white people. In fact white people have played important roles in the struggles of black people. For instance, Charles Garry was a white attorney who worked with the Black Panthers as their chief counsel, and to defend Huey P. Newton in the 1967 slaying of Oakland Police Officer John Frey case. He also went on to defend Black Panther Bobby Seale. Charles Garry used his position in the white community to fight against racism in the best way he could, from within his own community.

Also, the other interesting thing to look at is the White Panthers, started in response to an interview where Huey P. Newton was asked what white people could do to support the Black Panthers. Newton replied that they could form a White Panther Party. The White Panthers were setup to support the Black Panthers by fighting racism in their own communities.

As for Malcolm X’s quote, I think you might be surprised to hear the kind of things Malcolm was saying on this issue later in his life, and the way African liberation movements, as well as the Black Liberation Movement dealt and deals with this issue, that they have mostly always allied with white people.

Q: How do you define Black nationalism, with which you have been identified?

Malcolm X: I used to define Black nationalism as the idea that the Black man should control the economy of his community, the politics of his community, and so forth.

But when I was in Africa in May, in Ghana, I was speaking with the Algerian ambassador who is extremely militant and is a revolutionary in the true sense of the word (and has his credentials as such for having carried on a successful revolution against oppression in his country). When I told him that my political, social, and economic philosophy was Black nationalism, he asked me very frankly: Well, where did that leave him? Because he was white. He was an African, but he was Algerian, and to all appearances, he was a white man. And he said if I define my objective as the victory of Black nationalism, where does that leave him? Where does that leave revolutionaries in Morocco, Egypt, Iraq, Mauritania? So he showed me where I was alienating people who were true revolutionaries dedicated to overturning the system of exploitation that exists on this earth by any means necessary.

So I had to do a lot of thinking and reappraising of my definition of Black nationalism. Can we sum up the solution to the problems confronting our people as Black nationalism? And if you notice, I haven’t been using the expression for several months. But I still would be hard pressed to give a specific definition of the overall philosophy which I think is necessary for the liberation of the Black people in this country

P.S. in case you’re wondering, I’m white from Spanish and Argentinean parents and part German Jew

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That’s all well and good jstar but the problem of blacks today is the same problem they’ve had since emancipation. Race is just an excuse used by anyone for any reason. It’s nothing more than a perception.

The reality is that upon emancipation, blacks had nowhere to go. Even if they were to have gone out and started a homestead or whatever, they would have needed this that and the other thing to get it going and keep it going.

So, it was more a matter of being seen as a burden, by and large.

The main factor though, they simply did not know where to go or what to do.

Which is the same problem today. Blacks who run into trouble with the law, are simply people who wake up every day and see no future for themselves and don’t see a future for anyone else that they know.

Another problem is a lot of blacks live in the past by continually bringing up the past. They have to learn to live in conditions that exist NOW. It’s not just a smart way to go, it’s a survival skill. People who live by what’s going on NOW, make out far better than those who live literally in the past.

The most important issue for blacks, is education of their children. All that means is the child learns in those 12 years the difference between a functional and dysfunctional environment and which one they identify with.

But if they live in a world of adults who only identify with the dysfunctional aspects of our society, then don’t let it be a shock to anyone that children grow up with that mindset……

XL_611…I may have critiqued your statements…but I never called you an idiot. In fact I even said I see light in some of your other statements..so your attempts to now belittle me now is disappointing.

You were not the only person I challenged on this forum. You made a broad ranging statement saying all of Africa was primitive and that the 1st university was in the 14th century…and I disputed that. Nothing more…but like I said..sure. Btw…you are the one..that came with the sarcastic belittling tone in the 1st place..but I’m sure you’ll tell me it’s all in my head

Yes, slaves were taken to the various islands, because this is where the slave making process took place. Those who were deemed too rebellious were kept there, while those who were broken were brought to the states. You must be a politician with your use/play with statistics, because 10% of 100mil is still 10 million. oh but wait, i’m sure part of your reply would be “I said less than” well your still talking about 6-10million people, but see, that number looks a lot more palatable when written as “less than 10%” as if people should say, “oh, was that all?” I see playing with the truth and manipulating numbers runs through your veins, just like the best white supremacist!

Well _A_, somehow you seem to ignore the 20 million slaves taken during the 500 years previous to the european slave trade, by muslims………

Talk about playing games with numbers and history….

LOL

Whoa XL_611. Playing a game with numbers would have been if I said those 20 million only represented 2% of slaves taken. Plus, am I really to even believe that number? I think not. Thirdly, like I mentioned, although slavery is bad no matter the form, there was a certain level of respect that was maintained of the slaves back then. The form of slavery that took place in the Caribbean and here in the States, is the WORST case of inhumanity of man to another man in recorded history. You show me where Arab/Muslim women routinely had there wombs cut open and babies stomped in front of others just to instill fear in the others? Show me where Arab/Muslim slaves routinely had limbs chopped off, just to prove a point? You can’t even begin to make the comparison, but white folks like you are fond of trying to do so, to make it seem as if your ancestors were no better or worse than others who dabbled in the slave trade. A honest look at history, quickly reveals the foolishness of those assertions.

After reading all the input from the white guests to this blog, it’ clear that they CAN’T be pro black revolutionaries.

two things:

1) whites aren’t “helping” blacks by fighting for justice. Justice has no color. When whites fight FOR what is JUST and MORAL and RIGHT, they are fighting for THEMSELVES, not for blacks.

It doesn’t matter how much money, guns or power whites have, they will STILL be held accountable to the universal laws of justice AND to God. What they put out into the Universe, for bad or for good, they’re gonna get it back, and that’s a UNIVERSAL FACT.

If most whites — even the well-meaning ones — truly UNDERSTOOD and BELIEVED IN the power of KARMA, whites would begging non-whites to save THEM.

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2) If whites FOCUSED on “changing” their own communities and people, blacks and non-whites wouldn’t need “help” FROM white folk. Non-whites wouldn’t have to “fight” for their civil rights. If the playing field was level, non-whites wouldn’t need charity or special assistance from whites.

During the early 1900s, blacks created over 50 towns in the state of Oklahoma, including Tulsa, better known as “Black Wall Street”, an all-black town that had its own bus line, library, theater, stores, bank, and businesses. (if you never heard of it, google it)

Black Wall Street was so successful that nearby white towns (that weren’t doing nearly as well) marveled at the success of a people who had been slaves just a few decades ago.

Whenever blacks have attempted to be self-sufficient, whites were so threatened by the success and nerve of those “inferior” blacks that they used the pretense that a black boy had “raped” a white girl…to justify attacking and killing blacks and dropping kerosene bombs from airplanes to burn the black town to the ground.

Bottom line, once “good whites” get the racism in their communities in check, let’s talk…

@ XL_611

you’re damn right, we bring up the past, because

(1) we are still fighting the same racism that our ancestors fought
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(2) only a FOOL forgets the past, because that forgetting means will be doomed to repeat it
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(3) whites don’t want blacks to “bring up the past,” because the TRUTH about our past would destroy the MYTH of white superiority/black inferiority, AND tear apart the whitewashed lies that pass as “american history” in the American school system
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(4) bringing up the past would qualify the descendants of American slavery — the most horrific human “Holocaust” and CRIME AGAINST HUMANITY in recorded history, which means blacks in America would qualify for MASSIVE REPARATIONS in the TRILLIONS of dollars
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and(5) try telling Jews to “forget the past.”

Funny how the actions of a few, get attributed to the whole. If whites were opposed to black equality, then there would still be slavery. Opr perhaps worse. There have been efforts to exterminate blacks. The obvious truth is, some whites, maybe even a lot of whites, are opposed to black equality. But then no one can say, all whites.

At any rate. Most people with common sense know that you can’t sit in judgement of someone, until you have properly accounted for yourself. Then, and only then can you be trusted not to exaggerate or minimize the character of someone else, and have a reasonably accurate picture of them.

I of course, have a very simple tool, which enables a person to do all the above, in short order. I’m sure you will find it useful yourselves…

1. Generally reaches out to others, or freely associates and is often helpful to them.

2. Generally keeps to ones’ self and or one’s “kind”. Helpful to others, but only in the sense of being similarly situated.

3. Generally finds reasons to exclude others from this that or the other thing. Mostly pre-occupied with social status and the affairs of others. Almost never of much help in any given situation, unless upon personal gain.

4. Generally finds reasons to target others for abuse. Help is never offered, even upon a price. However, when and if help is given, it is but a pretense of giving help and when the actual intention is discovered, it’s also found the recipients are being abused in some fashion or another.

And there you go. All you need to do now is find a place to squeeze in the fact the worst offenders, are usually the one’s with the loudest and most frequent accusations. Why?

What better place to hide?

LOL

They don’t chop people’s hands off in muslim countries? Huh….. I wonder what all that jazz is about getting caught stealing then. Don’t you get your hand chopped off for that? TODAY??????

Now, if that’s the penalty TODAY, for shoplifting, is anyone seriously going to tell me slaves didn’t have abusive and torturous penalties for minor offenses?

ARE YOU FREAKIN OUT U R MINDS????????

LOL

Oh, and when I speak of the muslim slave trade, I’m not talking about muslim slaves.

I’M TALKING ABOUT MUSLIMS TAKING AFRICAN SLAVES…..

K?

K. Whew. I was beginning to worry that not only do we have to deal with infinite non-sense, we’re having to deal with infinite illiteracy.

Oh, wait. Same thing…

Never mind..

LOL

@ XL_611

After reading your posts, I’m amazed by the contradictory statements you make so proudly:

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XL_611 said: “…the problem of blacks today is the same problem they’ve had since emancipation….”

“Funny how the actions of a few, get attributed to the whole. The obvious truth is, some whites, maybe even a lot of whites, are opposed to black equality. But then no one can say, all whites…’

“Most people with common sense know that you can’t sit in judgment of someone, until you have properly accounted for yourself…”

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First, you lump all blacks in the same pot, saying we have the “same problem”, and then you say people with “common sense can’t sit in judgment of someone.”

doesn’t make a bit of sense, moving on…

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XL_611 said: “If whites were opposed to black equality, then there would still be slavery.”

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ME: It’s obvious you know NOTHING about slavery, the Civil War, the years following the Civil War, the Civil Rights movement OR even modern day history or racism. In fact, after reading your posts, I can’t figure out why you’re discussing history, slavery, or racism at all.

This kind of ignorance – for me – is the main reason I avoid dialoguing with most whites about any subject that involves race. The level of arrogant ignorance, anti-historical and false statements, and the inability to draw rational conclusions is disturbing and a sheer waste of time.

If you want to dialogue about slavery and racism, READ and LEARN something about it FIRST. Slavery did not end because whites wanted “equality.” In fact, Abraham Lincoln was totally opposed to racial equality and said the following:

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“I will say then that I am not, nor ever have been in favor of bringing about in anyway the social and political equality of the white and black races….and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race…” — Abraham Lincoln

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Bottom line, in my experience most whites have NO real interest in dealing honestly with racism or slavery, so dialogues like this usually go nowhere and wind up wasting everybody’s time. So, rather than waste mind, I’ll end my comment here…

So, one guy, albeit the president, makes some comment about his personal and presidential objectives, and that sets the standard for all whites.

Secondly, as history moved on, so did cultural awareness and awareness of human rights as a whole, and subsequently more people became aware of treating blacks with respect to equality. Obviously…

And again I’m dealing with someone who can only nitpick and focus in on the smaller picture and thus literally gets stuck in time and of times past at that.

When forced to look at the larger picture and in broad terms, it’s too much for his pea brain to handle and he gets confused.

The only reason he never gets anywhere is because he wanders in circles trying to figure out where he is, and where he is going.

But to hide this fact from the rest of the world, makes the claim we don’t…..

LOL

I think it’s also obvious cramm sees no future, in some respect or another. Which is the actual source of his anger. He has a mental block of some sort which prevents him from seeing anything positive about anything, thus has no choice but to react with such negativity.

It’s all a game of perception. What you percieve, will determine your response.

If you see no future then you feel confined to your present circ**stances, obviously.

But when you bring up issues of the past, instead of the present, then you are locked and imprisoned in the past. Mentally, emotionally, spiritually and with all of that, physically. You WILL experience physical sensations, which he does, and in some circ**stances can cause a physical illness. These range from stress, to hypertension, you name it.

The answer of course is to find others who share and strive for a positive future.

But, it’s the mental thing. Getting people to give up those precious negative images, thoughts and feelings, is the whole game right there.

The only tried and true method for anything like that, is time.

Time it’s self, will create such a distance from the past, people will simply not be able to relate to it and relate much more easily to the present. And when they can relate to the present, then follows an ability to relate to the future.

Simple stuff. Some people just can’t handle it….

LOL

@XL_611

why don’t you direct your comments to me, instead of some (invisible) 3rd party?

without getting into a thing with you, you don’t know me, so please, let’s dispense with the dime store psychology and metaphysics, or whatever the hell you’re talking about…and stick to the topic, which I assume was racism and slavery and whether a white person can be a “pro black revolutionary” to which my answer is:

ABSOLUTELY NOT.

It has been my experience that most whites are in deep denial about racism ANd play the nut role unless they have some mental disability that prevents them from interpreting the world in front of them. Most whites — in my opinion — KNOW being white means something totally different in America than being black.

They know UNARMED white boys don’t get shot 41 times for pulling out a wallet. They know whites get breaks and promotions and opportunities that non-whites don’t get — and most whites LIKE IT THAT WAY because who wants to give up privileges (they haven’t earned) just to make a level playing field where they MIGHT LOSE FAIR AND SQUARE?

And white folks know about white privileges because whenever a white folk is DENIED something that a black person gets (or earns), or competes with a black folk who wins, white folks are quick to cry “reverse racism! Not fair! Not fair!”

Why? Because they know in America (a white supremacy system) that whites are supposed to have a superior position compared to blacks. That’s why a black folk driving a luxury car, living in a luxury home, or attending an Ivy League university is usually perceived by most white folks as “cheating” or getting something that black folk didn’t earn, and cheating a deserving white folk out of something they deserve MORE than the black folk…

This has nothing to do with being “angry” this is me — a BM — peeping WHITE GAME, the same game that has been going on for over 400 years, only it’s more sophisticated and deceptive because the game is intended to deceive it’s (black) victims with the false illusion of “black progress.”

White folks — collectively — run much game, especially economic and head game, and what happens is when a “angry” black man (like me) peeps that game, here comes the next game, and that’s to get personal and try to use psycho-babble on that black head to make that black head spin like a top, so that black folk doesn’t believe what they are seeing with their own eyes….

Sorry, son, but that game don’t work with all of us… some of us TRUST OURSELVES more than we trust YOU…

Speaking of “issues of the past”

Two questions:

1) Do you believe Jews should “forget” their past?

2) Do you believe schools shouldn’t teach “the past” and only focus on current events?

Well, this is the problem. I never said to forget the past. Show me where I even used the word, let alone make the suggestion.

I said not to LIVE in the past. Right? Right.

So you see folks, here is a man who’s rapture is rooted in the past, to such a degree, he cannot see what is right in front of him.

Now, you can follow or align yourselves with such utterly myopic morons if you so choose. It’s a free country.

But I aiiiin’ goin wit ya..

LOL

@ XL_611

here’s what you said, a direct quote:

“But when you bring up issues of the past, instead of the present, then you are locked and imprisoned in the past.”

—

so, in your mind, you’re okay if folks don’t forget the past, just as long as they don’t bring it up….?

again, you don’t know me, so you have NO idea what i see or don’t see.

And I’m curious, who is this imaginary 3rd person you’re addressing your posts to when it’s clear you’re responding to my post? what is up with that?

sounds like you’re confused, dude, no disrespect intended…

Yeah, I’m confused. And as such I imagine there are other people out there reading this, albiet only a few, and alternate between speaking to an individual, and a wider audience, as I FREELY choose. Obvious to most, except those more easily confused than I…

Cramm’s problem is he only thinks in terms of extremes and in fact LOOKS for extremes, comes to a point of extremity, and blames his victim. Just like any other abusive moron.

He has no grasp of the idea that while one is mindful of the past, one does not in any way live in it.

Simple. So simple in fact that the simple minded know what I’m talking about and only a moron or someone pretending to be, would not recognize this.

Anyhow, those of you who believe themselves to be such experts on racism and it’s history contemporary effects, should really do something more constructive than sit around and whine about it.

Write a book or something. Have anti-slave rallies or reparations rallies. Get organized and energized.

Either that or use the energy in a productive way and start a community center where you organize resources for jobs and education.

Truth is, all you’re capable of is slapping people around for things other people did……

LOL

i think they can if they dont like the way some one is treated and want to help change things look at history whites have die a few hung trying to help slaves

No,No ,No Why . They just cant wear the shoes. It wont fit!!!!!Most just see an opportunity when its a tragedy.The ones that really do cant and will not advertise it.they cant afford it.

Damn, Crammasters went very wise on this one…So sorry I missed it…

Why do white people always bring up things happening in other countries when we’re talking about racism? Wtf? Crammasters 2 thumbs up. I reallyhate the term ‘reverse racism’ makes zero sense.

Wow! Very powerful. My personal opinion – can a white person be a Pro-Black revolutionary? Yes. Remember, without the help of white abolitionists during the American Slave Trade, slavery might not have ended. Not to discredit we as blacks fought for all along, but the white man helped set us free. So, my answer is yes.

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