i’m in full agreement with the article/editorial above, except that an admonishment to neo-confederates to respect the descendants of slaves is naively futile : their entire ideology is premised on conscious disrespect. we have to fully wrap our heads around the fact that there is faction in the country that defines itself in opposition to us, it wont just go away, it is dangerous, & long term prospects for peaceful co-existence with it are minimal.

the flag we use NOW has as much blood on it, if not MORE…. but nice try playing on us reacting over-emotionally ;)

from what ive heard it sounds like…….

State(republic)Rights vs Federal Gov’t (which is ONLY suposed to run Washington DC’s lil 10-mile area)

high Taxes that dont benefit the people paying them

enforcing the Constitution (and Treaties) which is the supreme Law of the land

According to history, it was racist democrats who fought to keep slavery and imposed racist laws after slavery such as Jim Crow legislation that made blacks second class citizens until the mid 60s.

And according to history, it was the Republican “Grand Old Party” that faught to end slavery and were successful. Also, if it wasn’t for the Republican party, landmark civil rights legislation would have never happened in the 60s.

What a lot of poor whites don’t know or realize is, THEY ALSO HAVE BLACK BLOOD AND ARE THE DESCENDANTS OF SLAVES. When slave holders had children by their house hold servants, they would arrange ‘marriages’ to other children of slave holders. Not recognizing a ‘marriage’ between these types, they were also interbred with other white men in power that owned them, and on and on.

These people would run away, often settling in the hidden sanctuary of the hills and wooded areas of the country. Whites who knew the ‘history’ of these people still considered them to be ‘black’ because of the one drop rule, therefore labeling them as white ‘trash’. Being as they looked white, but had that black ancestry that didn’t even show.

@seethurya
You are dead-on there..but you’re leaving out some relevant information. The Republican party of yesteryear held most of the views that TODAY’S Democratic party has, and the old slave-loving Democrats of old, had today’s Republican views.

The parties were never static; they evolved over time into what they are now…polar opposites of what they used to be.

That’s not to say that Republicans all want to secede and have favorable views on slavery, though. I figure they can’t all be bad.

It seems to me that you don’t know your history very well. The Confederacy certainly wasn’t all about slavery. It was mostly about state’s rights to make decisions for themselves, rather than the Federal government, hence the term “confederacy”. A “confederacy”, of course, is a group of separate, sovereign states that work together. The US Constitution states in the 10th Amendment, “The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.” Meaning, of course that the Federal Government had no right to abolish slavery in the South, or anything else that could have affected the states. Of course slavery was wrong, but the phasing out process needs to be done with the states’ consent and over a longer period of time. Slavery in the South was a huge part of their agrarian economy. I should also point out that the flag in your picture isn’t that the flag of the Confederate States of America. It is actually the flag of the Army of Tennessee. The flag isn’t a symbol of racial hatred. It is a symbol of pride in Southern history, heritage, and ideals. And saying that you can’t separate the Confederacy and slavery makes no sense…it’s like saying that you can’t separate George Washington and slaves. Of course you can! I also hope that you realize that the swastika is an Asian symbol, still in use today, used to denote good luck or fortune, and not anti-Semitic views. I’m not saying that the flag should be flown around publicly. It’s certainly debatable…but to say that the flag is a symbol of slavery is simply wrong.

The best way to learn what the causes of the civil war are is to hear it straight from the horse’s mouth.
Here is a quote from the South Carolina Declaration of the Causes of Secession adopted on December 24 1860 by South Carolina when it seceded from the union. From this doc**ent it is clear that the reason South Carolina seceded was because it wanted to maintain the institution of slavery.

Here is the quote:

“…..The General Government, as the common agent, passed laws to carry into effect these stipulations of the States. For many years these laws were executed. But an increasing hostility on the part of the non-slaveholding States to the institution of slavery, has led to a disregard of their obligations, and the laws of the General Government have ceased to effect the objects of the Constitution. The States of Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, Massachusetts, Connecticut, Rhode Island, New York, Pennsylvania, Illinois, Indiana, Michigan, Wisconsin and Iowa, have enacted laws which either nullify the Acts of Congress or render useless any attempt to execute them. In many of these States the fugitive (slave) is discharged from service or labor claimed, and in none of them has the State Government complied with the stipulation made in the Constitution. The State of New Jersey, at an early day, passed a law in conformity with her constitutional obligation; but the current of anti-slavery feeling has led her more recently to enact laws which render inoperative the remedies provided by her own law and by the laws of Congress. In the State of New York even the right of transit for a slave has been denied by her tribunals; and the States of Ohio and Iowa have refused to surrender to justice fugitives charged with murder, and with inciting servile insurrection in the State of Virginia. Thus the constituted compact has been deliberately broken and disregarded by the non-slaveholding States, and the consequence follows that South Carolina is released from her obligation.

… Those (non-slaveholding) States have assume the right of deciding upon the propriety of our domestic institutions; and have denied the rights of property established in fifteen of the States and recognized by the Constitution; they have denounced as sinful the institution of slavery; they have permitted open establishment among them of societies, whose avowed object is to disturb the peace and to eloign the property of the citizens of other States. They have encouraged and assisted thousands of our slaves to leave their homes; and those who remain, have been incited by emissaries, books and pictures to servile insurrection.”

Conclusion: The war was about abolishing slavery in the southern states, and we did. Thank G-d the Union won.

Another example from the horse’s mouth is the speech made by Alexander Stephens, Vice President of the Confederate States of America, on March 21, 1861:

…”The new constitution has put at rest, forever, all the agitating questions relating to our peculiar institution African slavery as it exists amongst us the proper status of the negro in our form of civilization…The prevailing ideas entertained by him and most of the leading statesmen at the time of the formation of the old constitution, were that the enslavement of the African was in violation of the laws of nature; that it was wrong in principle, socially, morally, and politically…Those ideas, however, were fundamentally wrong. They rested upon the assumption of the equality of races. This was an error…
Our new government is founded upon exactly the opposite idea; its foundations are laid, its corner- stone rests, upon the great truth that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery subordination to the superior race is his natural and normal condition. This, our new government, is the first, in the history of the world, based upon this great physical, philosophical, and moral truth…

With us, all of the white race, however high or low, rich or poor, are equal in the eye of the law. Not so with the negro. Subordination is his place. He, by nature, or by the curse against Canaan, is fitted for that condition which he occupies in our system.”

It’s clear that the people who created the Confederate States of America seceded from the Union because they wanted to keep their slaves.

**I first found this on the TPM website.

Octo-dad – Reread what you just posted, specifically: “…and the laws of the General Government have ceased to effect the objects of the Constitution.” This clearly is in reference to the 10th Amendment. Also, your only example is from South Carolina (1 of 11 states), and a Vice President who was against the secession of the South, voting against it in Georgia’s special convention to determine whether to secede or not.

And I’m sorry, if Ron Paul, and the Ludwig von Mises Institute is neo-Confederate than I suppose I am also a neo-Confederate. Better go tell my African American friends and adopted parents…I don’t think they’ll believe me though.

Ahh, Once again, I knew some how some way you would tie this to Ron Paul,
Still charging windmills Casey? So honestly you believe that Every soldier that was killed black and white that fought on the side of the South, Were Pro Slavery? Sorry, and to try and tie the Civil War to the Holocuast in a broad as a matter of fact way, The Holocuast and Slavery… They are not even in the same ballpark Casey. The Mises institute is not pro slavery, The way you spin things, Casey You might be able to get a job at CNN, now that they hired that Hack from Red State. Sorry once again way short of the mark with your broad paint brush of Assuptions

“Can you imagine if states in Germany began showing off the Nazi flag? What if a state in Germany declared Nazi history month or people began bringing Nazi flags to protests supported by a political party like Tea Party protesters use Confederate flags. The confederate flag has been used as symbol for racism both before and after the Civil War and to African Americans, shares the same connotations as the Swastika.”
REALLY?
What a stretch! First of all NAZIS were guilty of genocide, not Southerners. Nary a slave was exterminated by being sent to a gas chammber.Slaves were valuable to the production of crops!Why kill off your workers? No Confederate policy was about conquering other states or countries as in Hitler’s 3rd Reich.Why did the slaves not revolt after the so-called Lincoln emancipation and kill the women and children on plantations left behind when men went off to war? Why after the war did they take the surnames of masters? It would seem they would hate them so and not want anything to do with their former masters.The battle flag you reference came into existence at the first battle of the war in Manassas,NOT BEFORE THE WAR Duh Huh!

If this piece is evidence of a viable argument then explain your obvious errors? Also the SCV is made up of black members so it is not a body made up of the familiar branded trigger word “racist” that you spout off like water flowing from a fountain when you cannot debate truth and fact. One such member is HK Edgerton, former member of and president of the Asheville NC chapter of the NAACP Here is the link to his website
http://www.southernharitage.com

Lastly and not the least explain why yankees after the war exterminated Native American tribes, especially using “Buffalo Soldiers” in The Sand Creek massacre. That sounds more like what you describe in…” Rather than viewing slavery as a genocidal crime”.
You have written revisionist history here that you hypocritically say true Southerners do.

It’s a juvenile how we Talk of Respect but possess none…

Pawmetto may be interested to learn that Hitler used the extermination of millions of American natives to justify his treatment of the “undesirable” groups in Europe. So not only did American conservatives commit the same attrocities that the Nazis did but they, in fact, did it first.

Conservatives like Pawmetto have used the idea of “American exceptionalism” to justify the most heinous and disgusting behavior imaginable. And like the Nazis with their “Gott Mit Uns” (God is with us) belt buckles conservatives think God is on their side so whatever they do is OK.

You know how sometimes when someone has a debt to someone they know they can never repay they often become resentful? Well that would be the most excusable reason for Southern conservative attitudes. And from there the reasons quickly become worse. Maybe its just that there are some really horrible people in the world and they are attracted to conservatism.

In a situation such as this one, time has proven that no amount of debate will change what most people consider to be their core beliefs. Some people could be faced with a “smoking gun” and never flinch in their beliefs. This post is not for those people, this post is for those who genuinely wish to learn a little more about the history and the heritage of The Southern region.

during the five year lifespan of the Confederate States of America, slavery was a legal institution enshrined by the Confederate constitution. This much is fact, and well doc**ented fact. What is so often conveniently ignored is the fact that for the 86 years of the America Republic prior to the formation of the CSA ( and for nearly a year after the war), it was also a legal institution in throughout America, and enshrined by the United States Constitution itself… but we’re not supposed to discuss that part

Throughout the North, Slave ships crossed the Atlantic to buy slaves from African tribal leaders to be taken to the new world… but we’re not supposed to discuss that part.

Slavery became a lawful practice by court order in Virginia in the mid 17th century after a man named Anthony Johnson sued an indentured servant that he had by the name of John Casor. The case set the precedent for Slavery in the British colonies. both Johnson and Casor were Africans…. but we’re not supposed to discuss that.

I am not trying to lay the blame of slavery squarely at the feet of the African American community, I am merely attempting to show that we ALL share the blame of the institution; Northern and Southern, white and black.

“There are few, I believe, in this enlightened age, who will not acknowledge that slavery as an institution is a moral and political evil.”
Robert E. Lee wrote the preceding words in a letter to then President Pierce, dated December 27, 1856.

He felt, as many Southerners did, that slavery was an evil institution that needed to be abolished. why then did he proceed to lead an army in support of the institution? the answer is, he didn’t. Lee retired his position in the United States Army because he couldn’t watch any army, especially the Union army trample his beloved Virginia underfoot.

Even Lincoln wrote a response to Frederick Douglass stating that his primary objective in the struggle was to preserve the union, and that if he could do so without freeing a single slave he would do so. As historical evidence of this, I present the “Corwin amendment” which was endorsed by Lincoln and which, if passed, would have guaranteed that Slaves wouldn’t have been emancipated. the South refused.

Since Appomattox, Southerners have been demonized and villianized by everyone, simply because no one wants to admit that their own ancestors had a share in it as well. many in the African American Community believe that we Southerners should hang our heads in shame due to Slavery, while they brag of their own African heritage, all the while blissfully ignorant that those ancestors they are honoring are just as guilty of the burden of slavery as the ancestors of those southerners that they ridicule.

just as a side point, I would like to point out the irony that is posting an article in regards to “the racist South” on a website proudly proclaiming that it is for “Black America”. If ending racism was truly the point, then wouldn’t we strive to think not of “black America”, or “white America”, but simply “America”?

Laplaces Demon likes to use the bait and switch tactic in the argument of American atrocities. The article is about confederates who never mass murdered anyone except in battle where war is legal. Your argument essentially is apples to oranges.Yes Hitler patterned his genocide after American exterminations. He got his inspiration from Sherman who was the first general to wage war on civilians as in his march to the sea and the Native American massacres.Want more German influence? Karl Marx and Lincoln were contemporaries who corresponded and Marx admired Lincoln’s power grab.Lincoln took Marx followers who were exiled into the North and made them colonels and some generals in the union army.Your supposition on debt repayment is ironic in that the North owed all Southerners of all races reparations for war crimes and destruction of private property..ie Sherman and Sheridan.However the reality is that there was no Marshal type plan to rebuild the South.Instead more sorrow and woe in the form of Reconstruction. No I do not profess God to be on the side of one party or the other.I am an independent and see some value in the other side’s argument. However when a blatant attack is made upon my ancestors as being something they were not , then I defend them.

Casey…. Hmmmm well I could have used all these Historical Facts! Hmmmm Now Are you going to say, That these Historical facts are just Racist opinions? Come on man, What are they paying you to sell all of your Objective integrity? I mean you could have written about the two shrews Bachman and Palin and there interview with Hannity, I mean that was comical, But nope, You are still out there Charging Windmills! Man I hope the Israel Lobbiest don’t read this, I mean they even get pissed off if you Compare What went down in Rawanda under Clinton’s watch to the Holocuast! Sad man.. How can you honestly say you did any research into this one? You could have written about the World One brother, but nope! Sad man really sad! I just wish _A_ was still here! He would have loved this one!

BRiddle

You need to check your facts.

1. The flag shown is the Virgina Battle flag
2. The swastika first appeared on the Pyramids
3. The confederacy is associated with slavery in every history book

DarkGable222:

1. Actually, the flag shown is the flag of the Army of Tennessee. The Northern Virgina battle flag was square.

2. The earliest appearance of the swastika was on the so-called “Vinca script”, which dates back to the 6th-5th millennium BC….before the pyramids.

3. History is written by the victors. The United States has a long history of racism, but it is seldom written in the text books (besides, of course, southern racism).

Sorry Jack, you need to check your facts.

Yeah, the Holocaust WAS NOT AS BAD AS slavery. (20 million blacks compared to 6 million Jews, Romanis, Poles, and Slavs, so that’s actually 1.5 million per ethnicity. Dag, those Jewish people and their media control is some powerful stuff, eh?). I’m so tired of you wannabe intellectuals saying that that war was not about THE RIGHT TO OWN SLAVES. Sure there were blacks fighing on both sides. He11, slavery was on both sides and both of these sides had slaves that were duped into thinking that fighting in that pointless war wqas going to afford them an easy life! Yet and still the Civil War ended up being a Civil Rights struggle later on…..It’s not much different than the militarys aggressive recruiting tactics towards “minorities” that are executed to this day. And some people are lured in the exact same way! This is an example of white people panicking because their so called “leader” is black. They want to preserve some of their “heritage”! Yet these people would say things like ” don’t blame me for what my forefathers did “or some $hite like that! Why hasn’t anyone done this before now? And in Virginia no less? Right next door to D.C.! And I’m sick of closeted bigots saying that these “tea/coffee parties” aren’t about race at all! Name 5 blacks that attended the ORIGINAL “tea party”! You can’t! Why? Because most of them them weren’t considered to be citizens. And Ron Paul will just about wear blackface to get a black persons vote. Sad part about it is some of you will think that he’s so “down” for doing that!

This article is inaccurate and stupid beyond description. The Ludwig von Mises Institute is an economics foundation. I don’t care what the manipulating SPLC says, which makes lots of $$$ off gullible blacks.

Go to the Mises Institute site (Mises.org) and look around. It has exactly ZERO to do with neo-Confederacy. You will find an awful lot about capital structure and technical economic topics. You will find zero — ZERO — about the Confederacy. That’s why even Wikipedia dropped the “neo-Confederate” nonsense from the Institute’s Wikipedia entry. An impartial umpire looked it over and decided it was ABSURD to call the Mises Institute neo-Confederate.

Mises.org features books by Lysander Spooner. I’m going to assume you’re smart enough to know who he is. That should be enough to prove the Institute supports radical abolitionism.

You guys are pathetic. The federal government destroys our neighborhoods with its f’ing drug war, and you’re concerned about a few flags??? The federal government is our friend? Come on, man! Get out of fifth grade already.

I just can’t get over how bad this article is. Why not write about the GOP’s genocide problem? The GOP pushed for a war that killed at least 100,000 and displaced millions of others. That is much worse than daring to question something in an American history textbook!

Ron Paul is the only GOP guy who wouldn’t ruin blacks’ lives by manipulating them into the military and sending them off to get maimed. He’s against the drug war, which hits blacks disproportionately. Anyone who listens to him can see he is a decent, grandfatherly type who doesn’t lie to you.

And THIS is the guy this site goes after? So Mitt Romney and Rudy Giuliani are better, because at least they stick to the playbook on Lincoln?

Even Frederick Douglass said Lincoln was the “white man’s president.”

cestleon Wow… So in your mind Slavery is worse than the Holocaust?
So being rounded up and put on trains to a Gas Chamber is not as bad as
Slavery, “Jewish controlled media?” People that use historical Fact are “Wanna be intellcuals” and over on Crooks and Lairs, I watched a Tea party protest speach givin by a Black man, Look it up, Fact Check yourself
Wow did you and Casey go to the same school? If you look at the Percentage of who liked this “Bloggers Post” you will it is 100% in the Negative! So all of us folks a Bigots, Or maybe we just seem to have a Objective view of Historical facts, No one here is Pro Slavery! Sorry but No one agree’s with your view when Comparing the Holocaust to Slavery!

Slavery lasted for 400 years and the holocaust lasted for 6 i’d personally rather be killed in a gas chamber than made a slave..The Confederacy was all about slavery that was the only reason for its existence..Most Nazi soldiers didn’t kill any jews but they were fighting for white supremacy and genocide just like the confederate soldiers may not have killed blacks but they were fighting for slavery…

wow a black man gave a speech at a Tea Party rally wow..I’ve never heard of an Uncle Tom before so they must all be grat tolerant non racist folks at the Tea Party..and no one uses the vote down button last time i checked it was 0 up 0 down so one Ron Paul fan didn’t like it and voted it down..don’t play with llogic by voting down the truth.

Please white Ron Paul fans who don’t understand the history of slavery don’t comment on it

It is true that the American flag has its own history of racism but change was also made under that flag unlike the confederate flag which has only stood for racism why doi you think the KKK and the Neo-Nazis love it so much?

[...] and after the Civil War and to African Americans, shares the same connotations as the Swastika. OPINION: The GOP’s Neo-Confederate Problem, Rewriting The Civil War | News One Interesting commentary. __________________ "The range of what we think and do is limited [...]

You know Casey, it would be nice if you could use some historical examples to help legitimize your opinion, rather than just hurl a load of innaccurate “facts” at us.

I said ORIGINAL tea party, Rafer! You know, in the 18th century, off the coast of Massachusetts. The one that the history books in elementary scool referred to…..

I don’t have any allegiance to the South or to things that are Southern, let alone Confederate. However, it shouldn’t be impolite to point out that most countries, including Great Britain were able to get rid of slavery without going to war. So, why couldn’t we? Largely, because the Civil War wasn’t primarily about slavery. It was about expanding federal power. Lincoln made it very clear that his goal was to keep the country together and he would do regardless of whether or not he had to free some, all, or none of the slaves.

Wow, this story is false in many ways. As a Ron Paul supporter, no one could be more supportive of human rights than Mr. Paul. As a libertarian we believe that all humans have equal rights and that we should protect those rights to the utmost, however, at the same time, we also believe that the federal government is out of control. The civil war was 100% about states rights as noted by Lincoln himself.
“My paramount object in this struggle is to save the Union, and is not either to save or to destroy slavery. If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone I would also do that”

Mr. Lincoln saw slavery as a separate issue and the purpose of the emancipation proclamation was to get spies from the north to spread information to the slaves that they were free and to try to start a rebellion. This is evidenced by the fact that slavery CONTINUED in many northern states after the war was over.

Mr. Paul has supporters from all over the board….white, black, hispanic, asian, native american, assyrian (myself), arabic, etc. If you believe in freedom, freedom from government oppression, human oppression, economic oppression, then Ron Paul is the ONLY congressman who any person should support.

On another note, the civil war did affect slavery immensely. The southerners lost the war, their possessions, and had not compensation for their purchase of slaves. This destroyed the southern economy in a way that the treaty of versailles destroyed germany. There is no justification for the way black were treated in the south after the civil war, however, just as we have seen blowback from our ventures into the middle east, there was blowback in the south causing normal people to take out aggressive actions against whomever they could, and at that time, they chose to take it out on african americans.

As far as confederacy vs union goes, the United States was a confederacy in its infancy, but there were two major problems. 1. Raising funds for a national army. 2. Regulating commerce between the states. So the constitution was drafted. The south eventually saw the growing and expansive power of the federal government and that it threatened the very freedom that they had fought so hard for in the american revolution. Yes, the south was wrong to uphold slavery, it was and is a horrible evil, but the north was also wrong in its power grab and used that dividing issue to bolster its power. In the end, slavery was abolished, but it was a high price compared to the price that it would have cost if the government simply bought all of the slaves which further proves my point. The civil war was not initially about slavery.

Ask the Erie indians about the history of these Americas.

you are a sorry piece of turd for not letting me post. you don’t want the truth about the splc out? why would you cover up facts? this article is pure propagandist trash and if it weren’t then you wouldn’t be censoring me.

hmm…you let that one through? ok lets try this one…

“The American Institute of Philanthropy gives the Center one of the worst ratings of any group it monitors,” continued Silverstein. “Morris Dees doesn’t need your financial support. The SPLC is already the wealthiest civil rights group in America, though [its fundraising literature] quite naturally omits that fact. … ‘Morris and I…shared the overriding purpose of making a pile of money,’ recalls Dees’s business partner, a lawyer named Millard Fuller (not to be confused with Millard Farmer). ‘We were not particular about how we did it; we just wanted to be independently rich.’”

So, what happens when a dragon slayer – paid per dragon head – runs out of real dragons to slay? Well, he invents new ones, of course. Gotta keep those sprinklers-a-sprinklin.’ (According to Harper’s, “Dees bought a 200-acre estate appointed with tennis courts, a pool, and stables.” SPLC’s 2008 Form-990 shows net assets of over 219 million at the beginning of that year. Yup, there’s a spate to be made in the hate trade.)

google you’ll find it

not to mention that Dees tried to molest his step-daughter….

again…

I never deleted any commetns..we have been getting a lot of spam recently so some comments might not make it through if they ahve too many links…

Attacking the SPLC because of the actions of one of their founders which have not been proven is a silly move because you can’t rebute anything that they say…

Its amazing how you Ro Paul fans drink his Kool Aid the South is who seceded in the Civil War and started it…yey you blame Lincoln not the slave promoting south for the civil war..here’s a good way to have avoided the Civil War..the south just stop with the illegal immoral genocidal demeaning practice called slavery but know it was Lincoln’s fault right..that is laughable…you guys should all watch the Movie CSA (Confederate States Of America) to get an accurate view of what would have happened if the Civil War was not fought.

The South was wrong for slavery and they had as much to do with the Civil War as the North..yet Ron Pul and his neo-confederate buddie s want to stand up for the confederacy and attack lincoln..next thing he’ll be blaming the WW2 on Roosevelt and Truman and not Hitler

Casey, did you really just tell us to watch a mockumentary like it was a doc**entary? Tsk tsk. Does anyone else find it odd that Casey still isn’t providing examples, doc**ents, etc. to back up his claims? Casey, show me that Ron Paul is a racist bigot. Prove it. And please, use correct grammar and spelling.

Also, the quote from Lincoln that you surely should have read by now:

“My paramount object in this struggle is to save the Union, and is not either to save or to destroy slavery. If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone I would also do that”

[...] OPINION: The GOP’s Neo-Confederate Problem, Rewriting The Civil War [...]

i have all of Ron Paul’s racist newsletters as for doc**ents as well has his connections to the neo-Nazi breeding ground the John Birch Society as well..i always back up my claims with evidence i wish i had more time to spell check my comments for spelling and grammar but i have a hard enough time writing and edting and yes i did tell you to watch a mockumentary…I’m not sure what the quote about Lincoln is regarding..He was a racist but progressive for his time unlike the brave confederate soldiers who fought to continue and slavery…yet Ron Paul blames Lincoln for the Civil War while ot criticizing the south for slavery

http://newsone.com/nation/casey-gane-mccalla/ron-pauls-racist-newsletters-revealed/

OPINION: Ron Paul Is A White Supremacist

http://newsone.com/nation/casey-gane-mccalla/opinion-ron-paul-is-a-white-supremacist/

[...] OPINION: The GOP’s Neo-Confederate Problem, Rewriting The Civil War [...]

this is so biased. this website does anything it can to drag conservatives in the mud. their are many conservatives but you chose to highlight the few that alin themselves with this. well perhaps you forgot the history of slavery and the confederacy. IT WAS ALL RUN BY DEMOCRATS AND SO WAS SEGREGATION. and of course you happily forget the fact that the north had slaves to and abraham lincoln said that the war was not about slavery and that he would happily allow it to continue if the south would rejoin the union.

i have come to expect ignorant democrat bias bullcrap from these editorials that have no actual fact. this is a joke. have you ever actually done in research on the confederacy past what you have seen on tv. have you done any research on politics past what you see on tv.

you spoke on lincoln he himself was a democrat along with frederick douglass booker t washington and the founder of the NAACP. if you are going to spread this democratic propaganda at least tell me one thing. WHAT HAVE DEMOCRATS ACTUALLY DONE FOR BLACK PEOPLE? i hope you will be kind enought to answer that question form me. i would give you a least of things republicans have done for black people and hope from here on out this will be an intersting debate.

Very interesting, willylandis, unfortunately incorrect, Abraham Lincoln was a Republican, infact the first Republican elected to the presidency. Lincoln was also an abolitionist, who were looking for a political end to slavery. The south, fearing that they would lose all their political gains that they enjoyed like the fugitive slave act, for one, decided that they are better off seceeding from the union than dealing with a president who was against slavery. What brought on the war was the Confederate firing on Fort Sumpter, an act of aggression against American soil. If any president did less than Lincoln, he should be impeached. That’s like FDR not doing anything for Pearl Harbor. So the Civil War was and was not fought for slavery but one can most certainly deduce that the issue of slavery was a major factor in the decisions of both north and south. Now Lincoln was very astute in not making the war about freeing the slaves initially, because there were many southern states that didn’t seceed from the union, that’s why there were still slaves after the war was over. He needed those states support to crush the rebellion, but at Ghettysburg, when Lee’s army was handed it’s first real defeat, Lincoln for the first time addressed the issue of slavery.

alot of what you said was true and consistent with my thoughts but where you are wrong is that you said they were trying to end slavery actually they just working to make sure it didnt spread.

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