Comments on: JUST CURIOUS: Is It Racist To Hate On The White Miss Hampton?

By: MiSz_PiNk_DiamOnd

MiSz_PiNk_DiamOnd — Fri, 16 Apr 2010 16:37:05 +0000

Why exactly do white people go to HBCUs?

By: miche_miche

miche_miche — Sat, 27 Feb 2010 13:49:30 +0000

While I don’t condone any kind of racism or exclusion, we cannot deny the degredation of black people by whites that prompted us to create environments of inclusion for ourselves. When white America wouldn’t educate us, we educated ourselves. When they wouldn’t sell to us we built our own stores. When they worked our ancestors to kill their spirits they created songs to lift them up. When their beauty magazines didn’t think black was beautiful we created our own publishing giants. When broadcasting companies didn’t have programming representative of us we started our own networks.

All of these were not created to exclude whites or non-blacks. They were created out of necessity for the welfare, viabilty, advancement and even celebration of black people. We embrace non-blacks that have come to truly love and adore our culture, music and history. We welcome those individuals that want to share in our legacy, our history and help tell our stories to the masses. We don’t want to exclude anyone but we don’t want to be taken over either. The real sentiment is this, whites have plenty of mainstream places where they are celebrated, welcomed and revered. Blacks were force to created those same environments. enviroments that are for us, by us and about us. And what we are saying to whites are, come on in and enjoy the celebration but understand we are celebrating us.

You don’t find other races and cultures being invaded and robbed like blacks. Asians and Latinos don’t carry the same burdends of race that blacks do. They don’t know what’s it like to be considered inhuman. We had to fight to prove that we were just that. The thought of that seems perpsoterous today but that is a gross reality of slavery. Dogs were valuedore than we were. So to understand this is to understand the importance of why we now celebrate us. If we don’t, no one else will. To all the white emcees, gospel singers, hairdressers, etc, etc, etc, that live and breathe inside black culture we see you, we welcome you and celebrate you.

This issue has been both the curse and legacy of a racially divided United States of America. We are rarely included and when we are, we have to be exceptional to be so. Yet average white Americans excel all the time, i.e, George Bush. I’m not hating on “W” because initially I supported him. Don’t get me wrong, excellence should always supercede mediocrity regardless of color. However the reality is that this nation is not 100% percent unequivocally based on merit. The deeply rooted fears, hate and lies of racism have yet to be buried and replaced by love, respect and truth. Until this happens there will always need to arena for blacks to celebrate ourselves, our heroes, our achievements and our accomplishments. The same holds true for other races as well. It’s just that other races typically don’t experience the disparaging effects of racism as blacks do. We are excited to have any persons join in our celebration of ourselves, heritage and culture. That’s part of what makes this country great.

But let’s not put this all off on white Americans. We have a lot of prejudice within the black community. Fairer skinned blacks have been favored predominently throughout our own history and by our own people. And while this does stem from the legacy of slavery, we continue to perpetuate the notion even to this day. So until EVERYONE begins to ignore the color lines of race there will always be divisions among our United States of America.

I truly believe the bigger issue here with the white beauty queen, verses the white validictorian, is the subjectiveness of the pageant. Scholastic merit cannot be refuted. It’s black and white, pun intended. Beauty is subjective and given the history of what America views as beautiful, it’s definitely not representative of our nation’s diversity. Crowning a white beauty queen at an HBCU begs the question, did she truly win or was it something else? Did the judges want her to feel embraced by the university or have those old mainstream streotypes of American beauty come back to rear their ugly head and in the hands of our own? That would be disgraceful.

By: LACEDBBW

LACEDBBW — Sat, 27 Feb 2010 10:51:13 +0000

why is it the black folk are all for equal right until it isn’t in our favor? lol at least when white folk are racist they’re bold about it… if they didn’t want her to win why was she allowed to 1: attend a hbcu and 2: be allowed to run? oh oh oh, because the blacks were gonna shut her down? smh, when it’s an all white group of competiors and the black person wins (obama) we rejoice, praise GOD and count it on joy… but when it’s the other way around we get upset? lol
america the beautiful. some things shouldn’t even be important; this is one of them.

By: Babyface843

Babyface843 — Fri, 26 Feb 2010 15:02:54 +0000

when things are created for us and by us it is meant to empower US. Not the white person who can easily get more than you because of his or her skin. Why should they have the best of both worlds when we have to create our own in most instances? Is it racist to hate on her? No she should be somewhere else. I get tired of white people thinkin they are moses.

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By: Allie2Blaq

Allie2Blaq — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 07:42:39 +0000

Honestly, I don’t like the idea of a white contestant winning this kind of pageant but on the flip side if she won fair and square that the way it is. I know this is really black of me to say but white folks always have their hands in everything. Black folks are to touchy on things like this because we need to be able to embrace and identity ourselves in the world. We are still planting our feet in the ground but the thing is that we need to reach out on deeper levels than pageants. And when it comes to black beauty, this is not a measurement of our worth but on the same note this kind of situation sure tell a bigger story of what beauty is in the U.S. Black beauty is not represented enough and I believe that this pageant should be a platform for black beauty. The black woman is not in high regard enough in beauty or stature. These little things because bigger ones. I know people love to blur the racial line but the line is a lot thicker than believed to be. I believe first blacks need to progress before any racial line will be blurred. Some would argue that this is progress, not in my opinion this is simple a whisper saying “the black woman will never rise before a white one”. I’m sure the young lady never thought that this would be such an issue or if she did, I don’t believe she considered all factors. Just my thoughts, I don’t know ask Jesus about it.

By: lakerdude19

lakerdude19 — Sat, 31 Oct 2009 04:52:20 +0000

she was prettier than the rest of the girls, thats how she won.

By: panamami187

panamami187 — Thu, 29 Oct 2009 07:25:03 +0000

It’s crazy because how did a caucasian woman get Miss Hampton to begin with? Last time I checked it was predominatnly black, not to mention, how did she beat out the other candidates, who, might I add, were african american? I’m just sayin’

By: sweet-n-evil-89

sweet-n-evil-89 — Thu, 29 Oct 2009 04:58:37 +0000

@missstrings43 idk if you were being sarcastic but umm if she wasn’t enrolled then we wouldn’t even be having this discussion because she would not have been able to run… full-time or part-time, on main campus or off she is a student at that school, therefore able to run and (obviously) win.
Let’s think before we type sometimes.

By: sylkiifeather

sylkiifeather — Wed, 28 Oct 2009 06:03:36 +0000

lol…i repeat…”not to mention that nobody is “hating” on this white chick. people always like to throw that word around just because someone doesnt agree with them. plus, what reason would ANY black woman have to “hate” on a white woman? lol. wow.”

By: BlackHeartPanther

BlackHeartPanther — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 07:35:16 +0000

It’s a damn shame 2 c all these haters hating on this white girl when she attends & repersent their school 2. Look who’s play the race car now as my grandma used 2 say it’s no fun when the rabbit has the gun lol.

By: sylkiifeather

sylkiifeather — Sun, 25 Oct 2009 00:29:13 +0000

not to mention that nobody is “hating” on this white chick. people always like to throw that word around just because someone doesnt agree with them. plus, what reason would ANY black woman have to “hate” on a white woman? lol. wow.

By: sylkiifeather

sylkiifeather — Sun, 25 Oct 2009 00:26:45 +0000

wow…smh. i happen to agree with “people like missstrings43, Da_J_Rok & ESPECIALLY Jazzpast”. its always refreshing to see black men support black women. say what you want, but im sick of seeing black men so quick to come to the defense of white women.

i would never feel pity for a white person crying discrimination…when too many black people go through it everyday.

so let me get this straight…she wins the competition at a BLACK college…ok. but that is not enough for her is it. it never is enough for them…whatever.

By: Ti__

Ti__ — Sat, 24 Oct 2009 05:09:53 +0000

this is interesting, I wont make a long comment but after reading all the comments here and in several other articles I have to give cudos to Rei777 for his insights and maturity!

I also want to say that people like missstrings43, Da_J_Rok & ESPECIALLY Jazzpast bring shame on themselfs by being so ignorant, arrogant and RACIST in their comments!

the fact that this even became an issue proves that it IS indeed racism, if it were not it wouldnt be talked about at all since it were no breaking of rules!

By: shaymi14

shaymi14 — Sat, 24 Oct 2009 01:08:39 +0000

I think the problem with this situation is that some people may see this as the panel’s way of saying “black isnt beautiful”. People are offended that in a society where black women have to, in a sense, fight for the word beautiful, and are constantly told their hair isnt strait enough or their skin is too dark- to see a white girl win sends a subtle message that even at a HBCU the standard of beauty is light skin, long hair.
It may give the wrong message to black women struggling with self-esteem…

perhaps…

or maybe their just jealous they didnt win? lol.

either way, she won. so nothing we can do. congratulate her- or dont.

By: 2koolT

2koolT — Fri, 23 Oct 2009 21:42:57 +0000

big boogie D I want to shake Ur hand. U said it. People R too caught up on the bulls**t and need to be focused on important stuff.

By: 2koolT

2koolT — Fri, 23 Oct 2009 21:41:16 +0000

We need to be accepting of all groups. If we want to be accepted by them (Whites) We can’t turn around and do the same crap to them. What’s right is right. And what’s wrong is wrong. Whether it’s done by a black or white.

By: tester02isback

tester02isback — Fri, 23 Oct 2009 00:08:41 +0000

Oh and there are Historically White colleges- Yale, Harvard, Princeston. Look who the founders were and how long they ran before they let brothas and sistas in. Even if the tide changed, it’s STILL a historically white college.

By: tester02isback

tester02isback — Fri, 23 Oct 2009 00:03:46 +0000

@ Crowned, that’s a whole different topic.

By: tester02isback

tester02isback — Thu, 22 Oct 2009 23:48:35 +0000

Be mad all you want. She’s still miss Hampton. Unless there was wrongdoing in the contest or filled up pockets in getting it, she won outright.

By: bigboogie_d

bigboogie_d — Thu, 22 Oct 2009 19:17:29 +0000

Hating on this young lady is such a waste of time. Instead of focusing on her being Homecoming Queen, students should be focusing on real racism that persist daily in our society. When you graduate from your instituion of higher learning you’re going to run racism in your work place, etc. The students should be enlightened and educated about the racism,hating that President Obama is getting from the likes of Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaughs of the world. Where is your outrage to the increased overt racism that we see now?

By: CaliFemme23

CaliFemme23 — Thu, 22 Oct 2009 18:14:03 +0000

I dont think its racist at all…SOUTHERN, BLACK WOMAN that I am see nothing wrong with them making a ‘stink’ about it. Throughout history havent white people ALWAYS made a ‘stink’ about everything black? From skin tone to speech to demeanor…I mean damn, treat others as you would like to be treated…oh wait! my bad, thats what it says in that WHITE FOLKS bible…oops!!

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By: Ramos39

Ramos39 — Thu, 22 Oct 2009 15:58:04 +0000

She won.. how would we feel if the shoe was on the other foot? Ummmm wait a minute, the shoe has been on the other foot many times. Brothers and sisters let us walk in love a not copy the attitude and hatred that was put upon us by the dominate culture.

By: missstrings43

missstrings43 — Tue, 20 Oct 2009 16:33:10 +0000

Dam! Just broke a perfectly great tradition for all of this crap! Goodness gracious! And she was not even a ground or full time student…HELL!..she wasn’t even enrolled!
Oh geez!

By: lms5334

lms5334 — Tue, 20 Oct 2009 16:08:22 +0000

If Ms. Churchill was accepted at Hampton U as a student she is entitled to participate in any univesrity sponsored activity. It was the judges that appointed Ms. Churchill as the winner. Why is it when we attend white colleges/universities we want to be treated as equals, but when this young women expects the same from our colleges/universities we do not like it. We cannot have it both ways; discrimination is discrimination!

By: teachy1

teachy1 — Tue, 20 Oct 2009 10:17:59 +0000

Most definitely, it is racist to be resentful of the new Miss Hampton.

By: PuroMestizo

PuroMestizo — Tue, 20 Oct 2009 01:34:15 +0000

Yep

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By: C4pricorn

C4pricorn — Mon, 19 Oct 2009 14:01:11 +0000

is it racist to hate on her?
of course, but leave it up to simple minded blacks to weave in the past oppression. somehow that gives validation to hate against the new Miss Hampton, and for them to consider it NOT to be racist.
next time they should ONLY give the black students the opportunity to win, and see how much news THAT gets.

smh

By: cestleon

cestleon — Mon, 19 Oct 2009 13:34:25 +0000

Then again I’d probably hit ‘em all for gp! Hahahahahahahahaha! Nah, just kidding I’m not that much of a dick!

By: cestleon

cestleon — Mon, 19 Oct 2009 13:27:29 +0000

And to be honest…. I’d hit it!

By: cestleon

cestleon — Mon, 19 Oct 2009 13:26:57 +0000

Pardon the typo.

By: cestleon

cestleon — Mon, 19 Oct 2009 13:23:31 +0000

To answwer your question….yes! If the shoe were on the other foot there’d be an uproar. She enrolled, she particpated in that subjective mess and she won. Big freakin’ deal. Let’s talk about that racist assed judge in Louisiana. This is old news!

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By: sotiag

sotiag — Mon, 19 Oct 2009 12:38:38 +0000

Well i all i can say is if the university was white there would definitely be a lot of controversy but because of the ignorance and the belief that white is right they will make sure this situation will not become an issue but because black people can be sometimes to welcoming that leaves us with situations like this that to an extent just a reminder from them to you at the end of the day who runs this and who is in control and you will never be unless no whites were in this pageant. I love everybody but views on this life are corrupted with prejudice every where you go. I believe in karma whole heartedly. It wouldn’t be a problem if i know that events like this would except a black woman winning in an prodominetly white college but im pretty sure they wouldnt allow this to happen if they did they will definitly give him/her a hard time, bring up there past life or even use events that werent good on campus to take it away without making it appear that its not bacause your black.HUH? Who do you think your fooling?

By: GOODFIND55

GOODFIND55 — Mon, 19 Oct 2009 09:11:14 +0000

Are you people for real. Martin Luther King gave his life so that things like this would go away. Hampton University would not be here had it not been for foward thinking white and black people. If a white university did this we would be ready to march with torches and sue then for being racist. The young lady in question is a student of Hampton and should be afforded the same rights as any other. Maybe I’m wrong but there is a brother sitting in the white house because white voters helped put him there, and not long ago in the Staten of VA, we elected the first Black Govenor. Get over yourselves. maybe the people who thought the should have won should have prepared themselves a little better and stopped thinking they are entitled to it because they are black..Sounds like racist thinking to me.

By: Zeru25

Zeru25 — Mon, 19 Oct 2009 06:45:10 +0000

Those other women in the picture minus one dont look too happy.. Yeah its racist to hate on her for winning the award. There are some whites that are born or raised in black neighborhoods that dont get a fair shake because of who and what they are. Some get beat up and the people around them feel justified in doing so. But the truth is. It is what it is.