I definitely agree that the thug image is dying and I’m glad to dance at it’s funeral. The thug image has cost a lot our men their lives. So good riddance to bad rubbish.

There is a certain phrase, as you past will come back to hunt you. So I think what Suge going thru, He had it coming. Atleast he’s still breathing.

I agree that the thug image is defintely dying. And so many of us are glad to see it go. It’s time for our men to stand up and be the Kings we know you can be. Change start with you in your mind and then your reality will change.

thuggery is dying because the young boys aint going for it. yeah thats right add more fuel to the fire. must we always rejoice every time one of our brothers get a reality check who made us judge and jury. can we figure out where suge went wrong can we help this producing genius get back on the right track. obamas presidency is changing a lot of things thuggery is not one of them in the words of the (now humble) rodney king what he should of said was) cant we brothers all get along. and if we broters are already humble …..

I agree with Philly. I don’t draw the connection between Suge getting knocked out, President Obama and Thug Image Dying. I also believe that we Blacks love to play Judge and Jury to others actions while making excuses for our own actions. HOWEVER, I do believe and hope that Obamas presidency will give the cool guy a better image in High School, low income families etc. because the females tend to diss the intelligent brother and date the thug.I am all for blogging but sometime we blacks beat eachothers down worst than the white men do. I understand the symbolism of Suges great fall and the rise of the cool “Black Man” and the death of the violent one but lets rejoice in the positive and let the negative fade into darkness but not shining a light on it.

I guess none of you live in NYC. Every brother is still sagging, wondering why they ain’t getting no respect.

Hey, All I got to say is TUPAC was one of GOD”S CHILDREN & what goes around comes back around.and another thing ….SAGGIN’s spelled backward’s means what we down like being called SAGGIN’s —-NIGGAS…Go figure. Why is Black on Black crime so resepctful in out nation and we kill our own??????

What in the hell does SugeKnight has to do with the weakness of thugs? Can anyone first define a “Suge Knight” and a “Thug” so I can get caught-up with todays standard of understanding… Well, since it did go to my email; let me express my opinions on the whole subject matter: Defining Suge Knight(At least from the roomers)- An individual that was feared by many because of his survival tactics in using his mind to create the powerhouse he has chosen to be and his fight game to back-up/protect/and squelch those who have either worked against him in business or personal life or to instill intimidation for personal reasons via irrational actions(only he has that story) A Thug(at least from the roomers)- Is an individual that is natured in himself;accept me “as is”or step(or at least whats projected)…strong in one’s decisions with a foundation of the street-life often cruel and unwise without regard to what others say and think.. more of a ruffian because the undermindance of rational decisions made for actions. But to get to the point, A thug was mistakenly used as cash value by all means when its essense was for survival in tight and rough conditions… its a technique to “show” dominance and power with the intentions of instilling fear when you don’t actually have the dominance and power(in which many of the young crowds have adopted as a way of living)… So, my question would be, why is there a title “Suge Knight and The Weakness of Thugs” so important bringing up a whole lot of issues that is within our society as if it will benefit the people by acknowledging Suge Knight’s loss? Just for the record, I actually don’t know a Suge Knight and I am not affliated… But I will tell you that he rose in dominance cause he used his head for his benefit; and the thugs today? They don’t even speak with qualified grammar let alone being compared to someone that has established himself or herself as a pillar to bring someone out! My advice to the media; direct your writtings and topics at the source of problems then maybe everyone can get involved.

Ok..now I’ve heard it all.. The Thug image is not dead because one guy gets knocked out.. In fact the thug image is rising with the increase in black male unemployment.. Obama..ok..he does paint a better image of the black man in America, but what really has changed in the black-males journey. to be honest nothing. Black men in suits??? Ok like those wall hoes who did whatever white America asked of them because of the almighty dollar?? Please these dudes frown upon the average black man who aint ballin’ read up on the Boule. As long as black men are starving..have no way to feed their kids or have no real means of making life better for themselves (and I don’t mean taking $50,000 in loans to go to a university that is not preparing you for the challenges in a global community) thuggin’ will be here to stay. Honestly if it was not for the drug/crime-game the U.S. economy will be in even bigger trouble because that is the only cash-on-hand money being circulated at the moment.. do the math…and don’t let the fact the we have a black man as president blind people of what is really going on. The war against black man has gotten stronger and it will be much harder for black men to get ahead unless we work together like all these other ethnic groups who do business among themselves. Peace my Kings and Queens.

The man is the present of the man of the past that constructed the future. _ Tomorrow, yesterday, today. written by Robson dos Santos .

What does being a black man in a suit and tie have to do with being a sellout??? Some niggas in blue collar outfits are sellouts too. They use and snitch on each other to try to get ahead too. That was an ignorant statement. That sounds like hate just what white people want. Now how the hell are we going to move forward as a people and we’re still fighting each other. Dumb???

I’m not sure what to make of this. I will say that it sucks for him…and Tupac was NOT was one of God’s children.

Obama Cool? What is that? Being half Cool? I’m sick of hearing that every black man should now strive to be accepted by a certain segment of the white majority. Or strive to be president of one of the most morally bankrupt societies in the history of mankind. Would a 100 percent Jew wanna go back and be president of Germany? Ask one. A half jew half German might. Women before you start telling black men how they should act start telling your sisters to stop selling a.. on craiglist. I’m happy for Obama that he fulfilled his dream but that is not my dream and i hope that won’t be my children’s dream but if it is i’ll love and support them because that’s what a parent is supposed to do. Support them in whatever positive they want to do. And tell that fool on that video to stop mentioning Obama in the same breath as Martin and Malcolm. No comparison. The only similarity is suits. Personally i only wear suits when necessary. Don’t really like em.

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I think you just think Black men in suits look down on you’ll hell I’m from the ghetto and I wear a suit and tie and sometime I hate the suit dudes and sometime I hate the blue collar dudes both groups act stupid sometime and we should all grow up and keep our eye on getting the whole race ahead EVERYBODY!!!!

Men in suits are NOT sellouts. I come from the ghetto and was on drugs. I got clean, went back to school and now have my MBA and work on wall street. When I hear “thugs” talking about selling drugs and doing crime and getting rich quick I get very mad. They are selling to other brothers and sisters and our children and destroying our community. They are the “sellouts” who will do anything to their own brothers in order to have the “white man’s money!” They are “sellouts” doing the KKK’s work of killing black people. I am making money today but I dont have to worry about the police locking me up. And I can sleep at night because I dont worry about other dudes coming to shoot me. And I have no guilt that I am destroying other black lives. And I give back to my community and my church. I love wearing suits. My grandfather was a preacher, he wore suits. Martin wore suits. Malcolm wore suits. REAL black men have always worn them. Please tell these fools to pull up their pants, dress properly and be REAL men!!!!! P.S.: And if you dont like what I say remember that I am still from the ghetto and will take off my suit and gladly give you a “Suge-style” beatdown anytime, anyplace, anywhere!

SEXY GRIL-40

Sexygirl-40!! a little of what you say is true!! black men need to pull there pants up!! I Wear suits everyday!! SO!! I live for the liberation of my people!! The very people that you work for are the number one thugs!! just because they wear suits? these white men are dedicated to the destruction of black people!! doing it in a business fashion!! real thugs wear suits!! black people without the knowledge of self wear there pants down!! Stop giving the white man legitimacy just because he formed a corporation!! If you know what that means!! and Obama is right with them!!

That’s Strange…WE ALL ARE GOD”S CHILDREN…..So who did he w**rship the DEVIL?

What’s all this talk anyway?
You yourself showed a pic of
Suge in a suit.

I’d like to say a few things…first of all the term THUG has become significantly misconstrued. As a young boy, I grew up in SOuth Central L.A..I grew up in a Crip neighborhood, and even though I never initiated, I knew and saw a lot of my friends die at a very young age (12 – 14). I was fortunate in that I was involved in sports and that kept me from the mayhem. A lot of you don’t realize that a lot of these youngins in the ghetto know no better and have no other option but to sell drugs..The whole world spits on them, and it is no wonder that they view themselves as degenerates….One day, I pray I become a billionaire such that I may provide channels for these youngins to get out..they are not bad people, just lacking in sufficient knowlegde..and for that I applaud the Nation of Islam for what they do in the ghetto..
The problem is these PRETEND THUGS..little idiots who never saw the ghetto but want to portray that image..having been there, I can only say that only a fool would glorify that environment..I know of NO REAL HOOD who relishes in the environment they live in.
A lot of these hip hop gangsters are little pretenders…they know not a thing about the ghetto….I believe Suge may have actually been a part of the hood life (he was a blood, I beleive); but as someone who came from there, I can honestly say that only a fool would make so much money and keep himself involved in that environment…The only involvement I want with the ghetto, having ESCAPED it, is to help others escape it…
There are tooo many STUPID black men…that is the problem. These little idiots who are drunk on their pathetic egoes, and hide behind body guards and limos, and fancy cars…they are true idiots. These fools who can show no respect to their fellow black man, but expect you to respect them, for what? First show some respect to get respect.
I am a fighter (boxer and MMA) and a lot of these little egotistic idiots are always trying to test me..little f****ts and suburban retards… I refuse to fight them because the law considers my body a deadly weapon and I know full well, that these little idiots, without their guns and ‘CREWS’ aint s**t. I have a friend (22 years old) who was jumped by 5 guys..he was also a fighter..he beat the s**t out of them and put them all in the hospital and ended up serving 6 months (reduced sentence) in prison..I have no interest in going to prison, so I try to walk away, but these little farts are so retarded, they see that as weakness, not knowing that within a quick second I could end their pathetic lives.
I hope this Suge thing is the begining and we start seeing more of these little retards getting their little punk behinds kicked, because they are really starting to get on my nerves with their pretensions and worthless egoes.

What about all of the work I’ve done. You can’t really think that Obama did this alone. I’ve been selling a sticker, that say’s simply “A BLACK MAN CAN”, since 1996. I think that I have participated greatly in the changing of the worlds view of the black man in America. And I don’t want you so caught up on one man’s accomplishment that you forget or neglect the accomplishments or contributions of other black men. The black mans revolution does not end with a black man in the white house. I will not rest until black folk like black folk. FOR REAL.

I too am saddened when I think about to loss of a young man by the name of Tupac. But sometimes I wish he were here so he too could catch a beat down for promoting that crap call ‘Thug Life”.

How many of you ever see thugs just hanging out down town? I mean I always see them near their the area they live in, which just happens to be the same place where they carry out their dirty deeds. And to the blogger name sexygir-40. White men in suits are not thugs. Some of them very well are crooks. And the difference between crooks and thugs, is that thugs are socially cannibalistic . They eat their own; so to speak).

Man Suge getting beat up does not show proof of Obama’s call for change. For one Suge has pissed off and muscled a lot of people and it’s only gonna make since that people are gonna be on his head. Suge will never again be influential in the music industry because the industry has black balled Mr. Knight. No one is gonna work with Suge and I mean c’mon right now that power house spot is already taken by Mr. Vitamin Water himself. And why the f**k is this even news? So what Suge got beat up every real nigga knows that anyone can be touched. Suge was as hard as he was cause he could get away with it due to the dudes he had under him had it been anyone else he would’ve had a bullet in his head a long time ago real talk.

FIRST OF ALL, WHAT IS A “THUg”. MOST OF YAW gOT THE SH!T TWISTED. MAHAgWA SEEMS LIKE HE IS ON THE RIgHT PAgE. NOWADAYS THEY gLORIFY IT TO BE SOMETHIN’ THAT IT’S NOT. IT’S A gIMMIK AND A IMAgE. IT’S WHAT THESE SQUARES LABEL US. IF YOU WAS RAISED IN THE HOOD AND ACTUALLY gOT PUT ON A gANg AND REPRESENT IT, THAT DON’T MEAN YOU A PIECE OF S**T THE SQUARES AND WHITE PEOPLE LABEL. I’M STILL A MAN BEFORE ALL. SO THIS ARTICLE RIgHT HERE IS MISLEADIN’, AND THE SEMANTICS IS QUITE INSULTIN’. I’M NOT A “THUg” AND NEITHA IS NONE OF MY gANgSTA HOMIES.

Real thugs don’t want trouble.

Adisa made some interesting points, however, one does not necessarily have to frame Suge’s downfall in the context of Obama’s rise. Yes, Obama has raised the bar for all of us black men, but especially those in the public eye used to getting their attention and money from glorifying negativity and preying upon their own. Somebody needs to tell the gangstas and thugs in rap music that the economy and Obama’s rise signals the end of the Bling-Bling ERA. People don’t want to hear all that bragging about “my-money this, my money that” when they are about to lose their damned house. Obama’s image and presence is powerful, and its challenging our so-called artists to raise their game. I want to be one of the first to say that for some of these rappers who are just marginally skilled, their career is over. Maybe we will get back to rap lyrics being of substance and positivity. Its about time!

$$-How The Economy Killed Bling-$$

Did you hear the news?
Mr. Bling murdered by the Treasury.

Excesses usually find their dead-end,
In excuse of the pun, please take one
Moment to wonder how lavish plays
Juxtaposed against financial madness.

Lavish plays atonally when the
Patrons have dust in their pockets.
Hip-Hop tracks in need of stimulus,
Please plug into the nearest socket.

Bling went out on his shield
A Warrior to the End, Too bad he
Went out with a piano-key grin,
For his sins, he had to remove the
Platinum from his teeth, melted
Like the U.S. Financial System,
Brought to liquidity…
Better to sell you with.

Now, maybe we can return
To Hip-Hop with poetry as
Its essence.
Metaphorical luminescence,
Lyrical dexterity as its
Calling Card.

Bling was a mutation and could
Have went on unchecked,
Fortunately he became mistress
To suits and shiny charlatans.
They told him he was mainstream,
But Bling got drowned by the flood.

Gee-Child a.k.a. SubZeroPoet

some of the posts on here give me encouragement; they give me encouragement that there are intelligent, capable black men out there (just like the MANY, MANY black men who i see with their kids…and they say we are pathetic fathers)…anyway, i am a solutions person…from my own personal experience…having grown up as a THUG (not one of these fake imbeciles)..it is my coaches (athletic), parents, teachers and others who helped steer me in the right direction by letting me know i could do better.
Just imagine, if each successful (by this i mean, u have a decent job — not necessarily 6 figures) and intelligent black man, adopted one troubled kid and simply had that kid shadow them; or if 5 successful black men got together and set up a little program for these young THUGS .. and through this program showed these kids that “Hey, just because u live in such a f**ked up environment does not mean u can’t rise out of it” …just imagine the possibilities. George Washington Carver was a poor black slave, his slavemistress took interest in him, and this kid went on to garner sooo many patents for his inventions….there was a black man on death row in new york who had the IQ of a super-genius…he earned (i might be wrong here) about 2 – 3 Ph.Ds (one in Law) while on death row..what if someone had caught him at a younger age?
This is OUR race, OUR society..remember when grandmas in the neighborhood were the watchful eye for young kids ditching school, when their parents went away? Why did we as a people lose that…now all we do is hate on each other….and the truth is, this f**ked up attitude we have torwards each other is directly attributable to these ‘hip hop bling’ bulls**t..yet, some of these more conscious artists (like Common, Guru, etc) will make it known that it is these little sub-urban retard lilly white (wanna be black) A&R punks who steer or try to steer these rappers into this ‘THUG, BLING’ B.S…but that makes sense for someone starting out..when a JayZ or Suge perpetuate this BS, they are the ass-holes because they have enough clout to avoid it, but yet let themselves be used.
Anyway, if we turn our backs to those who spit and denigrade us, and focus on building ourselves up, I honestly think we as a race can rise…we have ample evidence of what we as a people can do…look at Marcus Garvey, Malcolm X, Martin King..Rosa Parks, Sojourner Truth, Look at all the black men and women who marched and bussed bravely, look at all the slaves who worked together on the ‘Night Train’…We are the same people…so WAKE UP BLACK MAN, WAKE UP BLACK WOMAN…all that Obama is, is a symbol, a beacon, we must now embrace this and raise ourselves to the TOP (where we belong)…as for those self hating, insecure, pretentious, retarded idiots amongst us, do as i do…turn a blind eye to them..sooner or later they’ll look in the mirror and see the pathetic losers they are looking back at them
Hope to see ALL of you in that land that Martin King (when he was on the mountain top) saw, but unfortunately will not get there with us.

How the hell does Suge Knight getting his ass beat symbolize the change of the thought process of a whole culture of people? Please explain that to me. He’s just a dude who used to be able to use his size to bully and manipulate smaller people. That is not a thug. Now I’m not a thug, nor have I ever claimed to be one, but this post is bulls**t. We got a dude on here talking about the mind state of people in “the hood” and he most likely has never been there. There have always been more ways out of “the hood” than sellin drugs,playing ball, or rapping, you dumb ass. It didn’t take Obama getting elected for real niggas to realize that. But now that Obama is president, maybe now the people in “the hood” will stop using their race and sub standard living conditions as an excuse because that’s all it is. Any bad situation I have been in, I’ve accepted responsibilty for it. Once people start becoming accountable for their actions, then we’ll see a change and thats some true s**t for you Adisa Banjoke

Who posed this idiotic question???
He in not some invincible God.
He’s a human…
And we have all gotten our ass kicked at one time or another…each and every one of us!

this Vision u see so clear is not apparent in L.A. in fact i think da common thug jus has gotten an upgrade traded since da late 80′s thru mid 90′s like all things have Suge is a victim of Karma

The fact that he got beat up should not be a symbol of thugs taking a beatdown as whole, but let’s face it. Everything that happens in hip-hop is a symbol of us as a people. The goings ons of blacks in hip-hop, and within the media are sometimes the only symbol of what we are doing as a race. BET??? One damned station of booty shaking thug parading. It is the only means of showing the WORLD what we as a people are made of and we have made a mockery of it. People have made ideologies about our people based on what they see us doing in the media. Let Suge Knight’s situation stand for a symbolic ass whooping for all that worship a deadend thug life. It’s played and hip-hop is dead. I hope that people of substance bring it back to life or we can just let it die. Thug life should never have been glorified. It is a struggle to survive and get out of. Not something to raise ones hand about becoming when one grows up. Sad.

Karma is a female dog & some dudes r 2! Sup, Suge. Sup Jay.

U heard the rumor MAKAVELLI IS ALIVE & WROTE A BOOK on what really happened 9/7/96?
U heard he says JAY-Z PULLED THE TRIGGER?
U’LL HEAR IT ON TMZ!

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_b_1_13?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&field-keywords=the+white+book+makavelli&sprefix=the+white+book

I am sure that Suge won’t let this one slide.
However,situations like these always have a negative outcome!!!

What that guy is saying on youtube is a fact! Brothers need to use there minds now more than ever! Stop being a punk and put a suit on !Use your mind and stop picking up a dam gun! Believe in yourself and your skills! Stop using that excuse ” the white man is holding me down” you holding yourself down if you don’t try! It takes hard work to make it so don’t be scared to work hard brothers! Out of any race we the most hated because we go something that other men from other races don’t have “GAME” God gave us a gift so take advantage!! Obama should have woke brothers up! You don’t have to be a thug to make it big! You can go to school and make it big too~ So listen to what that brother is saying because i understood what he was talking about!

While I have never been a fan of Suge Knight, it would give me great pleasure to see him let Yashur (Jesus) Christ turn his life around completely, and rise to become bigger and better as a man, a husband, a dad, and a business man. I truly wish he finds his way to where his Heavenly father wants him to be. In fact, this is my wish for all of us. Amen.

Surely Suge Knight has done enough jail time and spent enough millions in lawyers & court fees to learn when to put his gangster on pause… Although it’s suspect these “Wanna be” thug/scrappers don’t seem to have any real squabbles, (hmmm?)… A biggee Movie & now this…

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I think with the rise of Obama as a black man in the office of the president of the United States, Suge should look to other things and stop thugging! Thugging gets a black man or anyone for that matter either in jail, prison, or dead! I think that Suge needs to reform his thinking and ways and see the results of his actions. As a race of people we have come a long way, but there still is more work that needs to be done.