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House passes Health Care Reform
what does this mean more taxes that will not pay for what it supposed to . like they(NWO) do with all Ur taxes. they (NWO) will say we need more funds we just don’t have the money so we must taxes U more & more & more!!! but the good thing about this bill or any bill Bush & Obama passes that is unconstitutional we don’t have to comply to this crap none of it. I don’t think people R reading what this bill say. this is not Free Health Care this is Forced Health Care U will pay more for less(bet U the Insurance co hate that). & yes I’m black so no I’m not a racist. but ask Ur self how can they(NWO) pay for this bill & save money from this bill???

wow , Y R people so happy about a bill that was written in the 60’s to put the U.S. under U.N. control(like all the bills passed in the last 107years type this in youtube”United Nations & “Alien” Great Deception pt.1/14″ this was made in the 80’s talking every step we R walking. someone e-mailed me this bill is good , good for who? not for people like me . I don’t go to the doctors I never get sick ,Y? maybe because I don’t eat fast-food , junk food,mammals or drink soda. I do my daily exercises, I don’t allow stress in my life(meditation) but my point is this bill will not help U live long healthy lifes. this bill will make sure Ur life is short ,Y? whatever problem U have they have a pill for it. big pharmaceutical companies who R controlled by the banks who R controlled by the U.N. who R controlled by the elite of the world R the only ones who will benefit from this bill and all bills past ,present & future love 2 U all 1

p.s. here R some other thigs on my mind

The tax code in the U.S. is kind of hard to understand if you can not read & the irs knows this. Type “Theft By Deception 1 of 9 Deciphering The Federal Income Tax” in youtube search box. If your a U.S. citizen who receive domestic earnings , you do not have to pay income taxes. & for all the other taxes, we pay for schools,roads,police,firemen & so on. But what do they always say to us, we don’t have the funds. So where are the funds, what are our taxes paying for??? & property taxes could only be applied to the total amount you pay for the home not as long as you own it or it’s not your property

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this is called freedom of the press. they R free 2 lie about any & everything they report & it’s not just fox news all of them do this. the only way around the lies is 2 research everything U see & hear 2 find the truth. because U will never know what’s up in the world if U rely on one source. always ask Y. U will never go wrong.

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When I read the posting I see their(nwo) plans R working. it’s like gang war I hate the reds I hate the blues. wake up no matter who we put in office they all say 1 thing but always do another .

we don’t need governments we need a world community but on the people’s terms. they R civil services we R the leaders. I do like Ron Paul but one person can not save us we have 2 stop holding this system up & let it fall(that will stop the greed of power). give up the concept of money all 2gether(that will stop the need to want, what we don’t need).

religions should be personal(that will allow us as people 2 focus on things that effects us all). the Rights of all earth’s humans R. U have all the rights U want as long as U do not lie,steal,rape,harm or kill (triple the charges if a minor is involved under 18). we must work as one for the great human race there 4 all knowledge will be public(not a privilege). those without shelter we as humans will help U build U shelter(no one will be homeless).

those without food we as humans will help & show U how 2 farm & fish(no one will be hungry). reverse osmosis water filter must be in every home & car(no one will be thirsty). solar energy generating systems must be in every home & car(no one will be without energy). this is what our society will look like if U can Wake up & Grow up. this is the blueprint of a planet of love & peace. this is what we should be spending our time & energy on, not the New World Order but The Great World Order constitution!!! love 4 u all 1

@Bruce 88…if you new your history…(recent and further back) you would know free enterprise hasn’t really existed since we established our central banking system…do you even understand our economy? Granted the healthcare bill was not perfect…but its key elements will bring about the neccessary fixes we need…including Insurance company regulation…this is a close as we are going to get to public option healthcare…and also the penalty will be taken at tax time…so at best your refund check will be reduced…but that’s it…and for that matter you claim you’re against govt. handouts and being forced to pay for what you don’t want…I bet you won’t turn down your social security check or medicare when you get old enough…and for the record…I don’t need welfare…I don’t need the reform, I’m in the upper tax bracket that will pay for all of this…but unlike you…I care enough for those who are unfortunate and hardworking who CANT afford to pay for their care and get stuck with a large hospital bill that kills their credit score…and since your evidently NOT even well versed in how our healthcare system works (like your Faux news idol Gods)…I understand and forgive your ignorance…I’ve been a hospital exec for the last several years…and am formally trained in this field…our current healthcare system is a commodity based system…in this type of environment you will have the “Haves and Have-nots” based on income and other factors…it’s economic darwinism…hmmm…I wonder who that effects disproportionately?…tell you what…I’ll help educate you…read these books…then get back at me: Health Insurance: A Primer; History and Health Policy in the U.S. (new england journal of medicine);Healthcare Economics: A primer; and History of the American Economy…these are some of many books used by accredited institutions which I can assure you…nobody at Fox has read or taken a course in…if you don’t see their propaganda to be the anti MSN and make money and ratings off of manipulating peoples emotions…(not that Dem’s are innocent in any way)…then that’s your prerogative, Bobby Brown…

I am actually in “torn place” right now. Ummm well, I was one of the first Barack Supporters from day 1 even before he beat out Hillary. I also know for a fact that alot of the racist whites, do see PRESIDENT OBAMA, as a symbol of all blacks, therefore they do want whateeeeeeeever he promotes to FAIL. SO with that point, I do want him to succeed in everything because it will be like we are defeating those racist whites. Now, I also know that we are in the end times, if not the FINAL END, some kind of end, but there is an end coming up trust me (the world is too upside down right now for there not to be an end) and I know that means “BIG BROTHER” will not have our best interest! Or better yet the forces controlling “BIG BROTHER” do not have the common people best interest at heart, therefore down the short road coming up( that few of us can see right now) there will be alot of anger and few smiles …from all of us, yup including blacks..NOW THAT’S JUST REAL TALK…YOU CAN DISAGREE BUT YOU CANNOT PROVE ME WRONG

Bruce_88…i guess you missed the part where you recieve a govt. subsidy to pay for the bill…in other words…we will give you money for healthcare and you will use it to pay your healthcare premium…no civil violation there bruh…and for those that don’t qualify for the subsidy…you can fill out a form and get excused from the penalty…but I guess you missed that part…I understand…its a lot of words and pages…you probably got a headache and just started listening to Faux news to feel better…tell you what…if you don’t like the law…go to Costa Rica with Rush Limbaugh…I’m sure he’ll treat you better than our govt…and I’m sure you’ll enjoy how the govt treats their citizens on other civil policies…

Screw that stupid bill,like I said before fix the dam insurances companies,theIR the real problem, here comes the end of the world!!! If were always giving s**t,how will we help ourselves,dam food stamps,cash assistance,all that s**t.. Dont people know its actually coming out of OUR pockets. They aint paying crap.Everyone’s happy healthcare healthcare, wait till that s**t blows up then what. I dont want my kids to have to pay for those people who are lazy who wont get up to help themselve, saying oh Obama will take care of me. That how alot of minorities think. I think they should wipe out goverment assistances.

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I’m glad you outlined what exactly you have a problem with in these reforms, and I’ll address as many of your points as time allows. I’ll do so because it’s a disservice to the rest of my community to allow a lot of your misinformation to go unchallenged, especially when you’re presenting yourself as a champion of the people. When in fact your argument is really just a series of excuses to perpetuate a status quo where the working poor, women, and the elderly are discriminated against and black folk specifically suffer fall victim to disease and infirmary at disparate rates due to lack of access and coverage.

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The Medicare tax is currently 1.45% of income. The increase is less than a single percent and is being applied to individuals earning more than $200,000 a year, and households earning more than a quarter of a million dollars per year. That tax applies to less than 5% of the population and by no means is a tax on the working or the vast majority of the middle class. If covering more people and making that coverage affordable for the majority of Americans means people making a more than a quarter of a million dollars pay 1% more in Medicare taxes so be it. As for your state taxes, the federal government is not responsible for state taxes. You guys in California voted in the last action hero for governor, voted for a three strikes law and other zero tolerance polices that exploded your corrections budget without concurrently voting for the taxes to pay for it and now you’re reaping what you sew. Gut your corrections budget and you’ll be able to afford paying your taxes. Simple as that.

A 2.9% sales tax on medical devices is not cost prohibitive. The fact is that tax IMPROVES the system because it makes waste and inefficiency cost-prohibitive. As the millions being brought into the system are going to be paying below asking price for services, this will incentivize providers reducing waste of materials by at least that much to recoup overhead costs. Given the size of the subsidies and number of individuals finally becoming insured that 2.9% tax on medical devices is more than justified.

Your complaint about the tax deduction ceiling being raised to 10% is equally as petty considering the over-all benefit to the greater number of individuals who will now have access to care. You’re essentially saying the thirty million individuals that don’t have care now are less of a priority than maintaining a 3% exemption from taxes.

Your argument against taxing pharmaceutical companies and insurance companies is an argument against taxing any corporations at all. All corporations pass on their taxes to consumers. The health care industry has been unique in that they’ve managed to convince policy makers they should be exempt from taxation. If the guy that shovels snow out of my driveway has to pay taxes, why should companies giving million dollar bonuses to their execs and spending billions on lobbying congress get a free pass on taxes. Furthermore, you’re inaccurately describing the excise tax on insurance companies. For a family of four who spend $27,000 on insurance premiums will be subject to a 40% tax on the amount ABOVE that thresh-hold, so it’s not even the entire $27,000. More importantly the vast majority of people in this country don’t have plans worth that much. You’re asking the have nots to give up the gains from the reform law based on petty concerns about rather minimal tax increases that affect a small group of individuals at the top of the economic ladder.

Also, why should we believe YOU over the Congressional Budget Office? The CBO has analyzed this bill and stated specifically that it will reduce costs for most Americans while REDUCING the deficit. It’s one thing to be confident, it’s another thing to arrogantly dismiss the findings of EXPERTS who analyze these things for a living. Nobody of significance is challenging the CBO on their conclusions. The biggest issue regarding costs for this plan is the ASSUMPTION that future congresses will NOT remove the taxes created by this law to pay for itself. That being the case, the argument about costs isn’t a criticism of the law as much as its a criticism of FUTURE possible decisions by Congress. As nobody can control the actions of what SOMEBODY ELSE does in the future, it’s ridiculous to conflate fears about political behavior with fears about fiscal policy. You address fiscal policy and take care of Congress when the moment arrives.

Finally, there’s no need to lecture me about war or to justify your cynicism about politics and governance. We live in a world where you can choose to be relevant and actually make your words manifest in action or you can choose to be irrelevant and sit back complaining about what others have decided on your behalf. Nothing you have said here even begins to move anyone to action or to suggest viable alternatives to proposed solutions. I’ll ride with the President, who I have SEEN actually DO something for people typically considered to be of least priority to those defending the rich from minimal tax increases. I work on change within my community on a county level and I see what it takes to achieve even incremental progress, so I don’t expect ANY individual to single handedly solve all problems for all people. But when AN individual is able to HELP 30 million people through policy at the highest level of governance, I tip my hat to that individual while encouraging further action on the other fronts of import to our collective well being.

On that I don’t see how any reasonable person can disagree, so if that’s what we can’t see eye to eye on, of course you can expect your opinions to be challenged not only by myself but by every other reasonable individual that recognizes the problem with your perspective which prioritizes the haves over the have nots.

Lastly @Eolufemi, I guess we will never see eye to eye on this, so I guess we should agree to disagree on this matter.

@Eolufemi. Here are a few things you have either omitted from your calculation are are not aware of. I will list a few briefly.

Additional Medicare tax on self employment income and wages. This
removes the current cap on wages subject to this tax and it will effectively move the top income tax rate from 35% to 43.4% within a couple of years. Add in the California tax again and would then be close to a 54% marginal tax rate. Because spending is so high we would still have $1 trillion dollar annual deficits even after this tax.

There is a 2.9% tax on all medical “devices”, which basically means
everything used in a doctor’s office or hospital. Including gowns, syringes, and the like. This will increase health care costs for everyone who does not get free government insurance.

The deduction for Medical expenses is currently limited to those
expenses that exceed 7.5% or your income. This will be raised to a threshold of 10% of your income. This means that fewer people will get any tax relief from medical expenses they pay for themselves.

A tax on self-insured health plans. This is another penalty on those
who try to pay for their own health care.

A new tax on pharmaceutical manufacturers. This will raise the price
of drugs for everyone who does not get them from the government for free

A new tax on “Cadillac” health plans. This is an up to 55% tax on
any health insurance that costs over about $800 per month including employee and employer contributions. This tax does not apply if you are a union member or your plan is from AARP or Blue Cross Blue Shield of Michigan. These are major Democratic constituencies and they exempted them. For everyone else, this discourages comprehensive health coverage. Isn’t that what the BHO says he is trying to achieve?

There is a new tax on all ‘for-profit’ health insurance companies
(except for a few favored ones). This will also raise the costs of premiums
for everyone not getting free care from the government.

If you don’t buy health insurance (as dictated acceptable by a new
federal czar), you will be fined up to 2.5% of your income even if you pay
all of your medical expenses yourself. If your company does not provide said health insurance to all employees, the company will be fined up to $2,000 per employee.

In spite of all of these taxes, this bill will create deficits of at least
half a trillion dollars MORE than what we already have at the federal and
state levels over the next 10 years, and a great deal more after that. So,
lots more taxes, lots more spending, and lots more deficits. The time at
which the Treasury will not be able to sell debt any more, except at a huge
rate, is approaching fast. America, in my opinion with this bill, is much
more likely to collapse under the weight of our own fiscal excess than to be seriously threatened by any external force.

Finally, I really wish BHO would bring all troops home, and use the 1Trillion used to support the 140 bases and the two wars like he promised, to help offset this additional cost. That same CBO has predicted Billions more added to the debt in the first 10 years and then 1 trillion in the next 10. Of course, you have absolutely no regard for cost. But ask yourself, WHO do you think will pay for this? See, you have to understand something, I don’t have a real huge problem with the government subsidizing this if they want to, but DON’T do on the backs of those who can least afford it. Why is that so difficult for you to understand? Billionaires across the world have increased their wealth by 50% last year, adding another 20% to the total number of billionaires. In a time of recession, rich people get even richer, while the wealth of the middle and poor man gets transferred. You, your family (unless you’re part of a rich family) my family, and all the hard working people who are scraping by will be asked, no FORCED to pay this tab, while politicians, Healthcare providers and Big pharma companies will make billions more. How do I know? Where was their opposition to this bill? There wasn’t any, because not only do they stand to gain, but they helped shape this bill. Why do you think the public option got killed, and why do you think the single payer system (REAL REFORM) never even made it out of the gate. This was such a slick marketing job, that when you’re getting squeezed dry for every extra penny you have, you won’t even realize, or connect the dot back to this bill. Also, watch the stock market for companies dealing with Pharma and Healthcare providers, it will rise sharply now. It’s a big shell game my friend.

Oh yeah 1 more for OBAMA… now I can go to the doc and not owe $800 just for stepping thru the door! For those who are yelling kill the bill, kill urself…

I support The President in His Efforts To Rid The World Of The Plague.

However, He must understand that the world is stilled ruled by people that have just lost their way. Muslims are powerful people, The World Is Changing.