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I just finished reading Flowers for Algernon. The story’s about a reasonably happy retarded man named Charlie Gordon that undergoes experimental surgery because he wants to become smarter. Once the surgery’s a success and he does become smarter, Charlie is suddenly outraged to discover not only that the people he had always thought of as friends had actually, all along, been making fun of him, but also that the doctors that performed his surgery take credit for making him a human being, which suggests, of course, that he wasn’t really a human being before the surgery.

James Baldwin once wrote, “To be a Negro in this country and to be relatively conscious is to be in a rage almost all the time.” Now imagine being a particularly intelligent ‘Negro’ (and some of you don’t have to imagine.) You’d pick up on every racist slight and you’d catch every joke that was intended to go over your head. You’d be, in a sense, a living piñata, being beaten by people who never even realized that you were alive.

And that would just be when dealing with white people! The less-than-intelligent among your own people (who, for some reason, tend to think that they’re the ‘real’ Black people) would probably drive you mad (literally)! It would be impossible for you to reconcile how they’d allowed themselves to become who they found themselves as. And they, prideful in their ignorance, would be suspicious and contemptuous of you.

Surely, all of us know some very brilliant Black people that are rotting in jail, that are junkies, or that are pining away at some under performing job.

Similarly, there are also some none-too-clever Blacks that are doing quite well in life due to dogged determination or completely single-minded focus.

You, the intelligent Black, would seemingly have two options—both of them bad.

  1. You could try to prove your intelligence to white people. This sucks for two reasons: the first is that it presupposes that every white person has an intellect that is worthy of your proving equal to. Second, it puts whites in the position of using their respect for your intellect as a sort of ‘carrot on a stick’ whereas no matter how smart you prove yourself, you could never possibly be smart enough.
  2. You could take the Lincoln Perry route, disguise your intelligence, rename yourself something like Stepin Fetchit, and make money giving the stereotype believers what they want. Perry, a literate, thoughtful, educated and intelligent man, played a complete buffoon onscreen and made millions. That route’s gonna take a toll on your soul, though. Look what it did to Stepin Fetchit.

So what do you do (no, I’m literally asking intelligent Black folks; what do YOU do)? I’d love to get some feedback from some of ya’ll on this topic. That is, if ya’ll weren’t all so thoroughly outraged by the topic that you couldn’t even bother to open this blog and read it.

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  • http://www.blackplanet.com/masculine31/ masculine31

    Whose to say their INTELLIGENT? lmfao…most people network within a certain circle, and keep it there. The bible clearly warns about da FOOLISH MAN, and the WISE MAN. An Intelligent man walks hand n hand wit JESUS, and following his christ like ways.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/quiet_storm41/ quiet_storm41

    I consider myself to be a fairly intelligent person. I’ve proven to myself that I’m intelligent through various accomplishments; I’ve also received my fair share of praise for my intelligence. What do I do? I continue to do things to satisfy myself. I set goals for myself. Accomplishing those goals will speak for themselves. I won’t actively pursue validation for validation’s sake

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/CaliFemme23/ CaliFemme23

    Awwww@ Rk Byers…You must have posted this with some of us in mind…;-)

    masculine31, You should find it ‘strange’ that your religion would ‘warn’ you about a wise person…Kinda gives the impression that the ‘ruler’ doesnt want you associating yourself with intelligent people, seems as if walking hand in hand with jesus is saying you can’t be one of wisdom…Yeah, let that one marinate..Some say religion and intelligence dont go hand in hand, that statement is becoming more clear to me as the days go by…

    Does the truly intelligent black person have it harder? Ofcourse they do. James Baldwin is also a genius for his quote, it is dead on truth. A black person that is aware and a part of reality could only be in what one calls a ‘rage’ because they are just that…AWARE. Not walking around blindly with all of this ‘peace and love’ “we shall overcome’ type mentality that people THINK we should have just because we can use the same drinking fountains with the white folks. No I’m not going in on white people, not this time. And I wonder why black people that are aware these days are seen as ‘angry, enraged, self hating, racist and or prejudice’, when back in circa 60′s the same kind of black person was considered strong, leaders, intelligent, and not ‘falling for the okey doke’. Black society has gotten WEAK to what the media feeds us. We now have each other turning against one another for other races, we as a people dont do a good job of raising our children, we’re letting Lil Wayne and souljah boi do that. All they ever learn is rims, make it rain, go to a club, find the fattest azz, if he doesnt have money dont talk to him and my favorite is this craze of BLACK women wanting to look like BARBIE, yeah a little white plastic doll..Now how weak is that I ask.
    Im not saying we should all be rotating shifts on the world and holding officials hostage, but we could be a little less gullibe and see things for what they are instead of this blind lets all mix and be happy mantra. All of the people on this site that have called me racist, tsk tsk tsk, the white people LOVE that about you, anytime they can get one of our own to see another with hatred, then they have you right where they want you. Intelligent people dont fall for whatever the latest phase, trend, look, fashion, or what the ‘in crowd’ is doing which does make it ‘harder’ on them because they are then seen as ‘HATERS’. Intelligent people raise QUESTIONS about everything they encounter or that is going on (i.e. the president,gov’t, religion), and they catch HELL for doing such. The average person despises the intelligent person because they tend to go against the grain, break from the ‘norm’, they can not be led. Next time you come across an angry black person dont be offended or lay attack, because dont look now but you may have just come across an intelligent black person…

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/felicebois/ felicebois

    I think we have to learn to be smart.
    Gen Eyes Wide, listen real good.
    http://tinyurl.com/felicefanpage

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/WestsideCartelAtl85/ WestsideCartelAtl85

    Yes, intelligent Black people have it hard. Ever since childhood I always was caught in the middle due to my intelligence. I wasn’t a stereotype to White people and I was odd to some Black people. But I feel like my intelligence is a gift and not a burden at all. Because I don’t accept anything that’s in front of me like the average person. Also well said CaliFemme23.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Jack_Stephen1/ Jack_Stephen1

    yes, it is hard!
    an intell blk person would say, “we’re doomed! ni99as have hijacked the blk community and got us on the path back slavery.”

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/SenorCafeDa2nd/ SenorCafeDa2nd

    No,

    Intelligent black people go on to live productive lives for the most part.

    The ignoramuses that I grew up with either wound up in jail, working fcuked up jobs for menial wages, addicted to drugs, raising multiple kids with little income or the are currently deceased as a result of living a ignorant lifestyle

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Sub-Negro/ Sub-Negro

    Damn CaliFemme23 u nailed it on the head you know WTF you talkin bout.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/CaliFemme23/ CaliFemme23

    Sub-Negro/WestsidecartelAtl85, Thank you brothas..I try

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/tayaluv05/ tayaluv05

    I REALLY ENJOYED THIS, OPENED MY EYES. THANKS!!!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Rt4U05/ Rt4U05

    We need more articles like this one. Well said CaliFemme23.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Dark_Zero/ Dark_Zero

    The only part I didn’t like was when he made reference to Perry..That did not need to be said and there are others out there who are doing alot worse such as Lil Wayne and the rest of the so called actors talking about hoes, money, cars, killing, and etc. At least Tyler puts positive and realistic spins on how shows and movies and showcases them for the world to see. FYI to ignorant people who think Perry is the FIRST to wear drag and put on an act, that’s been going since the early 1900s. So know your history and stop putting the faults of blacks on one or two people who are making a better path and providing adult entertainment. Get to those who are not providing a positive influence on our children such as some celebrities, athletes, and musical artists. Seem like ignorance is more celebrated among us than those who spread positive and influential messages that truly makes a difference. Not what color car I am going to get to pick up a female. However, the article I hope wake up alot of my peoples eyes to the truth.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/I_AM_BACK_4_MORE/ I_AM_BACK_4_MORE

    It’s about time NewsOne focused on something positive, instead of the other crap they normally have here.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/I_AM_BACK_4_MORE/ I_AM_BACK_4_MORE

    come on, let’s get real. intelligent black people don’t go around stressed and saying “damn, i hate being a smart black man.” of course, being intelligent is not a bad thing. Intelligence is a great thing, whether you’re black, red, white, or blue. Those intelligent black people probably don’t surround themselves around those other blacks who you guys referred to as the “real black people;” they surround themselves with people that are like them. So, what an intelligent black person should do, is have friends who are intelligent too, or at the very least, they should avoid those ghetto, uneducated type that think that being educated is a “white thing.” As far as white people go, they should just treat them as people. They don’t have to prove anything to them, or anybody. Those intelligent black people spent way too much time in college/university/graduate school classes to have to waste more time proving that they are intelligent. I hope you have your answer to the question. Have a great day. And once again, thanks for a positive article for a change.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/SINJA_/ SINJA_

    I’m with you @I_AM_BACK_4_MORE-
    I choose to surround myself with those that share the same mindset as I do. I don’t put myself in an environment where I have to explain myself and justify my intellect to others. I don’t answer their indignant questions either. It’s a conscious choice that we all can make.

    There are those who will always think that we are less than they are no matter how we try. It’s not just white people either . Other races like asians, europeans and latins share a similiar prejudice toward blacks. But noone can make you feel a certain way unless you ALLOW them to. I hold fast to the belief that I must strive to be all that I can be. We stand on the shoulders of those that never had our opportunities. Its amazing to be living in these times and it’s shameful not to represent the proud people of African decent that we have the abilty to be. Brothers and Sisters-WAKE UP!!!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Keeshy10/ Keeshy10

    The intelligent Black person goes against the perceived status quo. This is a legacy of slavery and part of the reason why whites see us as ignorant. They kept us ignorant for centuries as a form of oppression. The intelligent Black person was seen as a threat to them because they could inform those who were enslaved that slavery was unacceptable. Since so many Black people in the past were taught that they were indeed ignorant, they went on to teach their children that and accepted that as the way things were. Sadly, ignorance seemed to be a part of being Black and it is a way of life. The fact that many predominantly Black schools are in bad shape contributes to this as well. But if Malcolm X educated himself in prison, then that doesn’t mean people can’t go to a library and educate themselves. Those who are intelligent get shunned by their own people because they are accused of thinking they’re better than other people, when that may not even be the case. Sometimes intelligent Black people do try to act like they are better than others, but nowhere near as much as they are accused.

    Intelligent Black people don’t go around hating that they are intelligent, they just get frustrated with the negativity coming from both Black and white sides. I can speak from experience; the way I talk doesn’t go with the way I look I guess. I “talk like a white girl” just because I pronounce my words a certain way & I get accused of “acting white” because of it. That makes me wonder what exactly “acting white” is. If being an intelligent Black woman means that I’m trying to act white, then what is it to act Black? All that means when someone says that is that they tagged the stigma of ignorance to being Black & I for one refuse to believe that to be Black, you must be ignorant.

    I don’t let what others say to be bother me. Of course it is irritating, but after they say something like that to me, I just break things down to them & give them a little of my philosophy. They either leave me alone soon after, or we get into a deep conversation. I’m not changing who I am for anyone though. This is me & I am not ashamed of it.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/registheone/ registheone

    Those of us black folk who have the gift of intelligence should be thankful to God. At the same time, our main problem is the fact that we do not use this intelligence to free our own communities from the bondage of crime, exploitation, and disrespect. In addition, we seldom use our intelligence to support our own businesses and mentor those relatives who have no respect for themselves. Having intelligence does not mean a hill of beans if you don’t use your gift to Bless and help those who continue to decline mentally and spiritually…..its not an easy job, but many of us will someday be forced to do it. Peace and respect.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/CaliFemme23/ CaliFemme23

    SINJA_/Keeshy10, Well said intelligent black ladies!

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  • http://www.blackplanet.com/CAROLINAGIRLSRDABEST/ CAROLINAGIRLSRDABEST

    @I_Am_BACK_4_MORE,SINJA_andKeeshy10 well put.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/MR_NANASTROKER/ MR_NANASTROKER

    SINJA_
    1-28-2010 10:23 pm
    “I choose to surround myself with those that share the same mindset as I do. I don’t put myself in an environment where I have to explain myself and justify my intellect to others. I don’t answer their indignant questions either. It’s a conscious choice that we all can make.”

    and herein lies the reason why I CHOOSE 2 stay within my community of people that have been have-nots for generations and I can say that they cannot be totally at fault for not becoming Educationally Intelligent…there is different forms of Intelligence so which one is RK Byers disproportionately relegating this story 2? Educated or Self Educated or Common Sense?? what form of Intelligence are you conveying of within your article?

    SINJA_
    I was fuked up when I read that from your comment and I dont have 2 explain why because we have been trodded upon long enough and WE NEED OUR QUEEN 2 RE-CREATE, REPLINISH us as you are the Creator of this Earth!!! also Unity seems as if it is a sin amongst us hence, there is none……remember sweetheart, EACH ONE TEACH ONE!!!! SOLIDARITY!!!! UNITY IS STRENGTH IN MASSES fuk numbers

    Much Respect

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/MR_NANASTROKER/ MR_NANASTROKER

    In the letter of Willie Lynch he stated that this conditioning of the black male slave in front of the black slave woman will have a profound and possibly an everlasting effect 4 the next 300 years or more…he wrote this letter is in 1712…1712+300=2012
    This is not an assault on Black Women you have been assaulted enough and is still being assaulted in this society and not by the hands of us Black Men. Open your eyes and wonder why you must Certify your childs birth with a birth certificate(natural person vs. artificial person). Why do you need 2 Identify your children with A #(social security) and why have you chosen 2 disown black men? dealing with us from fatherhood to relationships you will see us in a negative light and it is embedded within your psyche 2 divulge our association with you in this manner. I do not put this burden on you as a whole but divide and conquer is the name of their game and we have been pawns for that establishment long enough!!
    I also would like 2 state, we was caught in the storm but we knew and still do not know anything about the current President or his Agenda. He has kept the system Bush had in play and I believe is a dayum Puppet of the Imperialist Agenda…they had 2 put A blackface on it 2 further and strenghten their agenda and get US involved with the rhetoric but, we are not in favor of NAFTA, Agenda 21, IUCN, Project Biodiversity, more troops 2 guard poppy and oil fields in Iraq, HealthCare Initiative, and a shlt load of so little 2 do for not only US AS A PEOPLE but the downfall of America and that is why the Tea-Party is truthful in their Ideaology and they also provide us with the TRUE NATURE of America when they show you in the words of Ice Cube “here’s what they think about you”

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Alphamanec/ Alphamanec

    WELCOME 2 A DAY IN MY LIFE!!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/lakerdude19/ lakerdude19

    This is a little too awkward a subject for me to respond to, being that I am both white and the most intelligent person on here.

    But I will say that intelligent people (regardless of race) don’t feel the need to “prove” their intelligence to others. Their actions do the work.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/jazzwatch/ jazzwatch

    The WHITE boss have a tought time accepting me as SMART when I get serious. but when I crsck jokes they LOVE it…..

    The Black people like me the SAME way, but think I’m WHITE because I don’t use slang (SWAGGG) or engage in their bulls**t. That’s why sometime I couldn’t relate to them either. I rather be straight to the point….

    I caught it from kindergarden until NOW; it’s a never ending situation….

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/stacyanne23/ stacyanne23

    I like these kind of articles! We should have more like these on black planet. It not only open your eyes to your surroundings, it also stimulates the mind. Having said that, I can see where the writer is coming from. Ive seen intelligent black people being shun once too often by family members and peers because as one poster said in their mind they think the intelligent one is acting like they are better than them. In my opinion I believe its because with some people by being around an intelligent person that does not match up to stereotypes it makes them feel inadequate.

    We as black people need to enforce strong incentives among the younger black generations, kind of like grooming their minds at an early stage to acknowlege that by being an intelligent person does not make them any less black.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/jazzylicious2006/ jazzylicious2006

    For once a positive article that represents black’s in a positive light. Instead of garbage article’s like “Dark skin vs. Light skin”, “who’s sleeping with who” you know the garbage that N.O, U.D and H.B brings us. I like this article and I hope their will be more to come article’s like this,(clapping hands) it’s about time! And Lol @ lakerdude19 for his “Intelligent” statement ……..”being that I am both white and the most intelligent person on here”.(lmao) Apparently fella you are in desperate need of attention. And the fact that you want to start some sort of controversy. That pretty much show’s how less intelligent you are among the rest.(especially the part I’m “white” and I’m intelligent then you all ) But not here fella. Just Remember the head line Stated “Intelligent black People” so sweetheart you will not get the “negative” attention you are so desperately seeking. Now, you enjoy the rest of your evening, night, morning or what ever time zone you are currently in. And shout’s out to all the “intelligent black People” That continuously keep their composer with the ignorant and attention seekers! Love and peace to you all!J

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/rjrcin/ rjrcin

    Yes we have a hard time. I can’t speak on how we catch it from white people, because I have never been in a day in, day out situation where I an constantly around white people, and I tend to believe that adults of all races are more tolerant of intelligence. I do know however that it is basically hell to be an intelligent black child in a predominately inner-city black environment. I am just now beginning to understand and overcome the fear I have of dealing with other people, and to realize that the fear began when I wasn’t free to be myself in the environment I was forced to grow up in. I tolerated it thinking that the hard work I was putting in at school would pay off when I graduated college, only to find out the rules changed and that it wasn’t enough anymore just to have a bachelor’s degree. So instead of getting the last laugh on all the people who made fun of me for being smart, I’m still stuck right in the ghetto where I started, even though I thought I was doing what was needed to get away from here.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/maatra/ maatra

    A lot of people are startin to wake up and notice that they have been MIS EDUCATED they whole life by this western beast

    Western education is a cancer

    A brotha on JewsZero (newsone) named Damien Amari Jackson did a post on Patrice Lumumba and Amerikkka takin part in his kidnappin and murder and still continue to cause conflict in the Congo

    Damien posted this on the 27th I tried to comment on it but Newsone was shut down when it finaly came back up the patrice lumumba post wasnt on the live board. But you can still look it up on newsone and there are no comments on it. I wonder y

    See these kkkrackas are talkin bout OIL in HAITI and the 10,000 amerikkkans troops ova there and they don’t want President Aristide back ova there

    The sleepin giant is awakining and these kkkrackas betta head for the hills

    Check out the President Patrice Lumumba post by Damien Amari Jackson

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/maatra/ maatra
  • http://www.blackplanet.com/catgirlTX/ catgirlTX

    Well, I like to say that Im an enlightned individual. I have book sense, common sense and Im very concious of the world around me. RK Beyers I have a feeling your about to take this chat forum to another level!! I think this brother needs a RAISE!!!!!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/maatra/ maatra

    And look at the lakerbytch. All white ppl have a superiority complex. The lil whyte bytch the only one talkin bout he is the on intelligent person on here

    The peckawood the only one who eva said he was Superior.

    Even Abe stankn lincoln said that whites are superior and blacks are inferior

    Our greatness shows and we don’t have to convience nobody that we are wise intelligent and superior its just evident

    Quit phukin wit these peckawoods

    GARVEY-UP!!!

    Africans for Africans World Wide

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/MR_NANASTROKER/ MR_NANASTROKER

    SINJA_
    1-28-2010 10:23 pm
    “I choose to surround myself with those that share the same mindset as I do. I don’t put myself in an environment where I have to explain myself and justify my intellect to others. I don’t answer their indignant questions either. It’s a conscious choice that we all can make.”

    and herein lies the reason why I CHOOSE 2 stay within my community of people that have been have-nots for generations and I can say that they cannot be totally at fault for not becoming Educationally Intelligent…there is different forms of Intelligence so which one is RK Byers disproportionately relegating this story 2? Educated or Self Educated or Common Sense?? what form of Intelligence are you conveying of within your article?

    SINJA_
    I was fuked up when I read that from your comment and I dont have 2 explain why because we have been trodded upon long enough and WE NEED OUR QUEEN 2 RE-CREATE, REPLINISH us as you are the Creator of this Earth!!! also Unity seems as if it is a sin amongst us hence, there is none……remember sweetheart, EACH ONE TEACH ONE!!!! SOLIDARITY!!!! UNITY IS STRENGTH IN MASSES fuk numbers

    Much Respect

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/MR_NANASTROKER/ MR_NANASTROKER

    The nerve of dude who posted this article 2 have a picture of a REAL STEP-N-FEch IT that nlgger set yall up 2 advance some talented 10nth Bullshlt and had the nerve 2 call garvey a pig-nosed monkey him and the Chicago Defender negrepeons…took his goofy ass 2 the U.N. Conference with that white boy they told his ass get yo azz outta here Nlgger!! but they didn’t address the King of DAYUM!! he was the Prime Minister of Nigeria when he showd asking for the kkrackas support 2 get B. Mussolini dirty ass out his country committing genocide and this is before Hitler azz was even heard of

    In the letter of Willie Lynch he stated that this conditioning of the black male slave in front of the black slave woman will have a profound and possibly an everlasting effect 4 the next 300 years or more…he wrote this letter is in 1712…1712+300=2012
    This is not an assault on Black Women you have been assaulted enough and is still being assaulted in this society and not by the hands of us Black Men. Open your eyes and wonder why you must Certify your childs birth with a birth certificate(natural person vs. artificial person). Why do you need 2 Identify your children with A #(social security) and why have you chosen 2 disown black men? dealing with us from fatherhood to relationships you will see us in a negative light and it is embedded within your psyche 2 divulge our association with you in this manner. I do not put this burden on you as a whole but divide and conquer is the name of their game and we have been pawns for that establishment long enough!!

    I also would like 2 state, we was caught in the storm but we knew and still do not know anything about the current President or his Agenda. He has kept the system Bush had in play and I believe is a dayum Puppet of the Imperialist Agenda…they had 2 put A blackface on it 2 further and strenghten their agenda and get US involved with the rhetoric but, we are not in favor of NAFTA, Agenda 21, IUCN, Project Biodiversity, more troops 2 guard poppy and oil fields in Iraq, HealthCare Initiative, and a shlt load of laws that has so little 2 do for US not AS A PEOPLE but the downfall of America and that is why the Tea-Party is truthful only in their Ideaology and they also provide us with the TRUE NATURE of America when they show you in the words of Ice Cube “here’s what they think about you”

    YOU PEOPLE NEED 2 DO YA’LL SOME HOMEWORK!!! MAATRANEGUS!!! yeah I been checking you out bruh keep spittin that hot fire infinitely

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/maatra/ maatra

    Nanna only a few of us know that’s why brothas like u and I gotta keep them flames blazin

    GARVEY-UP

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/single_409/ single_409

    I must say that as a teen, I received more ridicule from being intelligent from “us” than from “them.” I chose to be with people that were like me. I didn’t care what race or racial mixture they were or whether they were in my grade or not. Now that I have matured, I find more of “us” that don’t care what others think of them and are out there striving just like me.
    It’s sad but I’ve had to be with white kids because my own didn’t accept me because of my intelligence. They appreciated when they wanted to cheat. Sad.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/nukareer1/ nukareer1

    SEEMS TO ME THAT ALL PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY WHITES ARE ALWAYS JUDGING BLACKS ABOUT WHAT COMES OUT OF THEIR MOUTHS.THEY LOOK AT YOU,WATCH YOUR BODY LANGUAGE,THEN
    MAKE ASSUMPTIONS ABOUT YOU AS A PERSON.IF YOUR SPEECH IS IMPERFECT IN ANY WAY, YOU ARE A PERCEIVED IDIOT THEY HAVE NOT TAKEN THE TIME TO KNOW.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/vernontrumpet/ vernontrumpet

    1YR after I graduated from college I went to work as a correctional officer,within that system hardley anyone black white or hispanic had much of anything in the way of education and here I was from an elite school and a commission as an officer in the United states Airforce reserves. Truthfully speaking I had a very hard time while working there,from whites mainly because they felt threatened by my ability or status because it had potential for upward mobility and as a result I was submitted to undesirable assignments by the white higher ups whose intentions was to make me quit and jokes and ridicule by jealous bitter and self-hating blacks angry because I CHOSED TO RISE ABOVE MEDIOCRITY.As a result, in retaliation I used my knowlege of the system or “my intellect” to put some white higher ups into undesirable positions and have some of the self-hating envious blacks fired.This was a true test of life God enforced on me,I learned my lesson well and came to realize that my enemy can be just as black as he is white and that Black Self hatred is far more deadlier than White racism because it leaves one without a support base and its very hard to determine loyalty. I went on to employ this practice on other jobs,successfully devising ways to have the self-haters or Uncle Toms fired in which I am proud to mention that 6 self-hating jealous,contemptous blacks in management and lower blue collar levels have been fired because of me.Of this I am trully proud and feel absolutely no remorse

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/EddieFrancisNOLA/ EddieFrancisNOLA

    This piece hit me HARD. Growing up, kids always asked me why I “talked white”. My family listened to opera every Saturday, so the folks in my ‘hood that we were weird. My father taught at a school in the ghetto, educated a plethora of Black kids, helping them get out of harm’s way. That included sending one student to the stages of Europe to sing opera. Yet, the only question that their parents could ever ask is “Why is he teaching y’all that sell-out white opera ‘sh*t’???”

    Black folks who are “different” take a huge beating. Those of us who refuse to do things like engage in brainless rumors about other Black folks, talk trash on the job, don’t “talk like normal Black folks” or do other things that “normal” Blacks do are thought of as stuck up.

    At the same time, we have neither the time nor the inclination to bow down to ANY white people. Yet every time young Black males screw up, people call on us to fix the problem. We mentor, give our time, our money, our passion, and get sort of a thank you.

    THEN good, intelligent brothers have to endure all of that “there are no good Black men left” B.S. that people spew . . . to our faces, no less! So SOME of us date women of other races, because we’re tired of being judged and talked about by our own. Then that brother is the worst thing ever, even though he may continue to give his time, his heart, passion and money to the Black community.

    Intelligent Black folks, especially men, just can’t win.

    Luckily, I keep my eyes open. I treat people the way I want to be treated, I maintain pride in my Blackness even though others don’t think the pride is there. As a broadcaster, I speak up on issues that concern Black folks; but I also say what I have to say to keep us honest. I’m not going to lie. I can sport a serious “F-YOU” attitude when other Black folks rub me the wrong way, but I am what I am at the end of the day. Black.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/EddieFrancisNOLA/ EddieFrancisNOLA

    One more piece of food for thought. I graduated from an all-Black, all-boys Catholic high school in New Orleans. We have among the most Presidential Scholars in the state of Louisiana. We have a 95% collegebound rate. Our boys go everywhere from the Ivy Leagues to HBCUs to two-year colleges to the military. The success we have in empowering young Black males is unquestionable.

    Yet who beats us up more than anyone else? Black folks. Who, besides our alumni, offers more financial support because of our mission? White folks.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/2znm/ 2znm

    yeah because even through you are respected, you are not really considered to be down with blacks but your not the right color to fully integrate with intelligent whites…So your kind of stuck!!!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/lakerdude19/ lakerdude19

    jazzylicious, if you were unable to detect the obvious sarcasm in my previous post, then perhaps you should abstain from making remarks about the intelligence of others… sweetie :) now please don’t lose your “composer (sic)”

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  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Azrael3/ Azrael3

    A couple of posters mentioned how they were teased or criticised for “sounding white”–i.e., using standard English, and (perhaps) having inflections and tones in their voices that are not urban or are not normally associated with a black (american) person. I have been told the same thing myself, and usually, that type of observation was followed with the person making a comment about how intelligent I am.

    However, I don’t agree that having a good command of a language’s standard or “sounding white” (or “proper) is always an indication of intelligence. True, it is an indication of being educated, but I have spoken to many people who use standard english–people who don’t sound like they are the race/ethnicity that they are, but are NOT very bright at all. Really, their voices/accents may make them sound well spoken, but if you really listen to what they are saying, the actual context, they are not the most effective communicators.

    Just my personal observation.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/tydism/ tydism

    I believe that educated blacks such as myself have a hard time from both class of races, especially our brothers and sisters.

    I went to one of the best black high school in Baton Rouge, Louisiana. Graduated from Southern University, LSU and working on my MBA at University of Central Oklahoma. I’m bless to have an good career that pays me enough to put me in an elite tax bracket.

    Because of those attributes; blacks thinks I’m too good to come around or that I’m acting white and whites want to always challenge you (to find an weakness)

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/jazzpast/ jazzpast

    When one grew up from a counter-productive environment, we see how harder it is to be intelligent with our own peers because of our psychological fear of being different and being caste aside.Our community has adapted the dumb down approach in life to where the characterization of black men and black women by blaxploitation films(pimps,playas, hustlers, tricks, drug dealers,gun slinger, I dont give a F SOB!) had become a reality furthering the distance away from the black power, black is beautiful ideology of yesteryears in succession. As we gained our integration and physical equality in public with the white folks, where white supremacy has become covert rather than overt. The very notion of King Leopold( the true willie Lynch) towards our people became a “10 step program of mental-slavery anonymous.”

    One of which thinking that optimism, intelligence, positivity, and loving one another are traits of whites alone. We must realize that whites has never learn true love is for theyve been cast aside from the beginning of time by our ancestors because of their sickness, albinoism or leprosy. If one has never experienced true love from their own parents, and has generationally kept anger and hatred towards those with melanin. What makes you think he will show you the way out of the dark?

    He will teach you the same unjust emotions and disconnect, which results to centuries of conditioning. Therefore, destructive behavior and justifiable negative mannerism becomes the law of the land. This has suffice our very being, and we become relegated to the BS proclamation of the “first black this, first black that.” when we know if we have look deeper in our history and look around us, intelligent black men and women, kings and queens made God proud. We become what we feared, just what exactly white folks wants us to be.

    “Hence, both the horse and the n****r must be broken that is break them from one form of mental life to another–keep the body and take the mind. In other words, break the will to resist. Now the breaking process is the same for both the horse and n****r, only slightly varying in degrees. But as we said before, there is an art in long range economic planning. You must keep your eye and thoughts on the female and the offspring of the horse and the n****r. A brief discourse in offspring development will shed light on the key to sound economic principles. PAY LITTLE ATTENTION TO THE GENERATION OF ORIGINAL BREAKING BUT CONCENTRATE ON FUTURE GENERATIONS.”

    -The Willie Lynch Letter and The Making of A Slave.

    Now when we use to celebrate true liberation and leadership.Now it is push down to the bottom of the dirty hamper, and is called HATER. It took 4 and half century to gain the most celebrated event of gaining,Civil Rights; and it took a few years to negate it.

    “. . .An examination of the evidence reveals a highly intelligent man who finds it impossible to accept the status quo. . .but that, being admired and respected by his fellow slaves(king and queens).”

    -Nat Turner’s Slave Rebellion.

    Also, a diploma or degree doesnt necessarily measures a person’s intelligence.

    I have to give props and love when it is due to Brother Byers for bringing up such topic.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/CAROLINAGIRLSRDABEST/ CAROLINAGIRLSRDABEST

    @loserboy19-get a life and stop trying to rain on a good topic meant for black people. Take your want to be in the middle a$$ on somewhere and sit it down…away from any computer or phone. You really maded an a$$ of yourself-with your statement.(JMO)

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/pantherg08/ pantherg08

    well i have to admit ive never heard to many negative things regarding my grades or awards from anybody. but i think intellegent people of all races have a hard time, i think the more u know about the world the more pesimistic u are, especially if u come from a poverty stricken enviorment such as myself. i always see the negative and the worst in alot of people and things. it can make u paranoid, disconnected from regular society and emotionally absent, maybe its just me!!!!!!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/CaliFemme23/ CaliFemme23

    Jazzpast,

    Always another level from you…very, VERY well said.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/wiseguy007/ wiseguy007

    I think this is a very timely article. If a black man or woman is educated, whites always have to mention that you are so smart or articulate. Unless it is a performance review, you rarely hear mention made about the intelligence or speaking ability of whites. So many times in conversations with whites or uppity blacks, they are in awe about certain things that I know. How do you know that? Wow, you are so smart! I think that black and intelligent are two associations that not only whites but society in general do not make. Honestly, if you know that you are intelligent and capable, the only person that you have to impress is your boss, to hell with everyone else.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Ediejones/ Ediejones

    All black people are intelligent. Some just choose not to use the brains God gave them.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/4JESUS_SATANCRUSHER/ 4JESUS_SATANCRUSHER

    UMM THE ONLY TIME WE’LL HAVE A HARD TIME IS IF WE BELIEVE THAT WE’LL HAVE HARD TIME. I LOVE BEING BLACK AND ALL OTHERS RACES WANT TO BE BLACK. WE ARE SO TALENTED AND FABULOUS..INDESCRIBABLE! THEY WANT US TO HAVE LOW SELF-ESTEEM SO THAT WE WILL THINK NEGATIVELY OF OURSELVES…NOT ME! I’M BLACK AND I’M THE BOMB!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/UCCP/ UCCP

    This is amusing, especially the comments.

    Proving that one has an expanded intellect and or knowledge and passion for learning, has never really been a problem for most people, even Black folk.

    Having that intelligence employed or even exploited for the benefit of one’ own community, without compromising one’s self or assuming a facade of the ‘norm’, just to get along and not feel completely isolated from one’s ethnic, cultural, spiritual, historical society, is the price. Enslaving one’s self to greater economic and social powers to prove and bring one’s ideas to fruition, especially when they are meant to benefit one’s own people and therefore should be invested in by one’s people, will always be a major problem.

    Ask someone like Mark Dean

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/numismatic/ numismatic

    Yes we have to take the bitter with the sweet, this is part of getting older, the best part of that he realized what his problem was a the problem is solved this should have made a person look at life and say its time to move on. Something a lot of us do not do move on and don’t forget about the past always remember it but try your best to get over the hurt!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/FormerChiGurl/ FormerChiGurl

    Well, I thought that this was going to be a thoughtful and insightfull discussion on Black issues and some current problems, but as usual, it has melted down into the usual crap that I see on various dicussion boards…
    First off, lakerdude19, “finishing up” a BS in pre-physical theraphy” can mean that you just completed your associates in General Studies. Sorry, if you want to deem yourself the most intelligent on this site, come back when you finish your studies at the community college. Those of us with University degrees find you helpful to bring our mail up from the mailroom at Corporate.
    Mr Nanastroker- you’re from Chicago? Sorry, but I can’t understand a damn thing you’re saying, and I’m from the South Side as well.
    Stacyanne23, Jazzwatch, et al, I wish that there were more like you on these discussion boards so that we can have some REAL exchange of thought.
    I’m signing off; gotta go do my “Spook Who Sits By The Door” thing…..

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/1GODDESSQUEEN/ 1GODDESSQUEEN

    O K I HAVE POSTED COMMENTS ON THE GAME, THE FOOTBALL PLAYER AND NOW THIS WOW IS ALL I CAN SAY WE AS A PEOPLE REALLY NEED 2 STEP BACK AND LOOK AT OURSELVES AND SEE WE R THE SAME NO MATTER WHAT OR HOW MANY DEGREES U HAVE I MUST SAY EDUCATION IS IMPORTANT YET THERE R PEOPLE WHO HAVE IT AND CAN NOT MAKE ENDS MEET INTELLIGENCE DOES NOT COME FROM EDUCATION IT COMES FROM USING IT IN A PRODUCTIVE WAY I KNOW AND SEE PEOPLE WHO CONSIDER THEMSELVES INTELLIGENT WITH DEGREES AND DO STUPIT THINGS AS WELL AS THE NON-INTELLIGENT PEOPLE STOP POINTED FINGERS AND START FIGURING OUT HOW WE AS A PEOPLE CAN BUILD AND UP LIFT OUR COMMUNITIES WITH WHAT AND WHO WE R EVERYONE HAS A PLACE IN THIS MESS

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/machett/ machett

    I am probably not as intelligent as I have been told I was, and if you add the “book smart but no common sense” thing, you could lower my rate even more but its hard to look around and be dissappointed so often. Why don’t more americans know actual history and why such small world view and lack of appreciation for diaspora music, culture and such a general lack of exploration of this world. In Atlanta we have so much commercial radio but alot of college stations and it is annoying that so many lifetime residents do not know there is community radio WRFG 89.3 that plays music and information from all over the world, or so many residents that never know about georgia state, ga tech or clark atlanta radio.
    Anyway, I am an underachiever due to a circ**stance in 1994. I hear ya saying “94, get past that!” I have but the secret service hasn’t lifted that little red flag. I just hope that I have imparted upon my children the importance of excercising that brain muscle and not being satisfied with things as they are because we are here to improve the conditons for the next generations.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/lakerdude19/ lakerdude19

    Lol formerchigurl, let me clarify for you. I’m on my last full semester of classes, then I have several months of internship left. I’ve already been accepted to grad school (several, actually), and I do, in fact, go to a university. Hope that clears things up.

    And for the record I’m not even claiming to be intelligent. As I told someone earlier, you failed to note the obvious cynicism in my first post.
    And when you say “our mail… at Corporate (sic)” you committed the same faux pas that I did by generalizing what it is you actually do. You could be a secretary for a corporation for all I know.

    So next time you want to pick on someone, make sure its not the most intelligent person on here :)

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/BaataDane/ BaataDane

    You showed a picture of WEB DuBois. Without going thru his entire life we know he was an advocate for his people of all levels.

    intelligence is different from education and smarts. Many people are intelligent. The amount of educatinal exposure is class related.

    The current Blacks that have gotten degrees or are in the know should help those that arent in any way that they can.

    Not each one is a superhero but each can do whatever part they can. Donations for organizations, some volunteer time for a seminar and thelist goes on.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/theJUICEandBERRIES/ theJUICEandBERRIES

    See the W.E.B. DuBois Video at:

    http://www.teachblackhistory.com

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/rjrcin/ rjrcin

    Baata,

    while it is admirable to want to help those who are not as informed or as educated as one’s self, some people just don’t want to be helped. I know that I personally have so much stuff that I need and want to do that I don’t have the time or desire to try convincing someone why they should listen to me. If someone actually wants to better themselves and thinks I can help, that is a different story

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Kid-OG/ Kid-OG

    If I might qualify my [whatever degree of] intelligence by first saying my liberal education was the product of pursuing art since childhood. After raising 2 sons [single parent] and the military, I taught for 10 years in public & charter schools [classroom & art].
    I read your short article and went from holding back tears to a broad smile.
    Don’t you know, for FACT, that for sure, caucasians, black people, your family [mother, father, sister, brother . . . child], whatever cannot & will not deal with you if you truly dedicate yourself to education & potential.
    Even my business partner [I'm 15 years in this . . .] would ‘much’ rather fail wholly than concede that [especially] a yellow nigga’ is articulate and can create then ‘problem solve’. [The latter is what intelligence is by the way].
    This goes back to slavery when it was unlawful for Blacks to be educated.
    Somthin’ else the white man engrained in ‘us niggas.’
    Anyway, what you speak of is very, very true. To educate oneself lifelong is to be cursed life-long by of course whites but then, everyone else to.
    In teaching for example, I change jobs as often as I did pressing clothes. I’m usually one of a few or the only male or black in the building.
    I not only had to dress down but talk ghetto to be taken seriously by staff.
    As a single parent my family did everything to try and make me fail.

    WARNING: This is in fact how it will manifest- they will try to make you fail.
    They’re reactions to your success & failure will be the opposite of what it should be.
    I can tell you frankly, a lifetime of dealing with [seemingly] all insecure, jealous, lazy, petti-ass mf’s I could be bitter.
    Thank God for something to work on and my guitar.
    To my life of haters- My vote’s for you to burn in hell for the deceit, lies, & misery and wiping your asses with my time, attention, & love.
    [Sorry, bad day for haters].
    The worst part though is that most of the s**t that makes them squirm is academic, convention, or plain ass common sense.

    My advice, humble your bad ass and get or continue your education!

    I’m ok though people. [snicker]
    Typically, an artist lives and works to unfold their own potential with benevolence coming in a far, far second.
    -kiddog

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/fitnessman05/ fitnessman05

    Just be yourself that’s the best advice i can give someone,Now this is a true story i was watching a program about this guy his race isn’t important so i’m going to call him a minority,he is a very successful business person,he would make p diddy and jay z together look bad financially but you will never hear about people like him,his job isn’t glamorous and he isn’t that popular no he isn’t a geek he’s smart well educated man,anyway he made a comment about minorities in this country which got my attention,he said that being normal in this country isn’t acceptable normality isn’t a leisure we have,this country was build on capitalism and innovation and the reason why most minorities in this country have such a hard time is the lack of both,so sports and media is where the majority get information about us and that’s how they see us.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/cwm299/ cwm299

    Nice article RK. If I read it right, you believe that the black man is only as good as the opinion of the lowest white man.

    I do not believe that, the only opinions that matter to me are my family and friends. And I will disregard them if it goes against reason. I do not need some outsiders opinion to shape me.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Kid-OG/ Kid-OG

    I just remembered a metaphor I’ve used in the past.
    Perceived knowledge coming from someone [especially what's academic] is like a man reflecting the sun with a mirror.
    It’s the sun not the reflection by man that is knowledge.
    So if you will, Don’t kill the messenger.
    Anyway, I have to be pissed off for it to sound right.
    -kiddog

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Khalif2000/ Khalif2000

    Neither of those choices are the limit. What woudl I do? I already did it. I don’t worry about what an idiot thinks whether his pants fit or not. For those “real blacks” with no damn job, no you’re not you’re the real BUM.

    I have worked at Microsoft, Morgan Stanley, Pfizer, etc as a software dev and the “real blacks” are security guards and cooks. What’s real about that?

    Unless you think you can’t be a professional in which case I point you at the term euthanasia. I mean yo, I live in Brooklyn and 90% of the 14-40 year old “men” wander around like clowns messing up the women.

    But then I have to wonder how good the sex could be to let him be a bum.

    Street Knowledge, my a s s.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/odoggz/ odoggz

    Excellent piece. I’m not full of myself, but I do consider myself a bit more intelligent than the stereotype. I’ve excelled where many of my buddies have not, and that made me a target of their anger because THEY didn’t bother to do well in life. I hate when black people get angered at another black because that black made something of himself, yet the black critics have not. Why hate me because you suck? So you’re labeled a sell out and someone who thinks they’re better than everyone, all because you don’t want to be the stereotype.
    On the flipside, I go to work/functions with whites there, you catch all the jokes aimed at blacks/latinos/poor/etc, and fire back at these muppets, and then they start to fear you. Too many blacks people feel that is a mistake, to anger the white man and show you won’t be pushed around. NOW, YOU ARE FOREVER THE ANGRY BLACK MAN if you catch them out there and put them in their places, by not playing the role of the buffoon, or the real sell-out black. You’re not the black guy jumping at every chance to kiss master’s butt to prove you want to be white and ‘civilized’ or ‘assimilated’ so badly (something many black, professional women are all breaking their necks to do for white approval, even at the expense of a black man). Now you’re the threatening negro, not the happy go lucky, sure-you-can-call-me-a-n1663r-I-WONT-GET-MAD kind of chipper fellow. lol Now, those wanna-be-white blacks folks, especially women, won’t even be associated with you, because it will ruin their image to whites- yet they complain to Oprah that 70% of them are unmarried. lol They think you’re ghetto trash if you’re not chasing white dreams. So they make you out to be the negative stereotype, and the hood blacks (the real blacks as even this article points out they think they are) think you’re that sell-out snob black who thinks you’re ghetto… Now, you have made all kinds of blacks, and whites, want to avoid you because you refuse to be the negative stereotype. LOL Incredible.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/bj24681357/ bj24681357

    Do Intelligent Black People Have A Harder Time? I don’t know, find one
    (if you can)and ask him

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/bullet358/ bullet358

    I just plain ol’ don’t give a damn. My intelligence = my blessing = granted by God = let him judge me!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/FLIXZ/ FLIXZ

    f**k em all. unintelligent blacks & “intelligent” whites. I will not dumb myself down for anyone.

    +’Verse

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Splash_Waters253/ Splash_Waters253

    And that is why I wonder why these chalk bytches come to Black Planet with comments like bj24681357.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/AmidstTheView/ AmidstTheView

    James Baldwin got it right. I live that frustration everyday. What we can do is alot more complex than just articulating ones utopian desire. That said, in view of the our totality we must institute a renaissance of thinking. Social evolution affords the cleansing of the blind. We that see must expend the effort to open at least one eye of those in our reach. For as Nas spit, ” In the land of the blind the man with one eye is king”.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/doing_me74/ doing_me74

    The way I see it its one thing to be intelligent but its another to have GAME because you have intelligent people that have no social skills.So you play the Game of manipulation on the people around you an be crafty because the people around you are the same.Like PIMPIN KEN said who’s the real PIMPS either PIMP or DIE an for the record it depends on what you mean by intelligence to because their is more then one type

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/gera_anderson/ gera_anderson

    There are more than two options- I propose that you use your intelligence, not to prove anything to the white man or anyone else, but to master your own universe, to attain your goals, to help others, to glorify God, to keep yourself intellectually stimulated, etc. I think we sometimes confuse intelligence with education. Intelligence is intuitive and will shine with or without education. However, one can be educated without intelligence. Spouting or showing off your education does not make one intelligent. We,as black people, can not let one faction define us. We are a diaspora that shares an ancestry but that has different languages and cultures and classes. The intelligent among us must embrace the whole of us, from hood or ghetto to high-brow and sidity (sp?) just as whites embrace their trailer trash.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/gera_anderson/ gera_anderson

    You know the sad part about bj24681357, for me a least, is that she probably dates black men. Why else would she be on black planet? She a decent looking woman but it saddens me that some of our black men don’t have the intelligence to avoid women like that who have the utmost of disrespect for them and a whole race of people.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/lakerdude19/ lakerdude19

    I am the most intelligent person here followed closely by bj24681357.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/bj24681357/ bj24681357

    Well thank you lakerdude :))
    bj

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/lakerdude19/ lakerdude19

    Actually I was being sarcastic. Your comments are a bit unnecessary, dont ya think?

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/bj24681357/ bj24681357

    No, Not really, there is not anything that I say that is unnecessary

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/shippper2009/ shippper2009

    lakerdude19 , im just curious as to why you have joined bp. does it have to do with the guilt you feel because of your slave owning fore fathers? maybe this your way of making yourself feel like you are making up for their past deeds by educating these poor black folk. care to elaborate?

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/bj24681357/ bj24681357

    Why do you think that all white people owned slaves? Now that in it self is a racist comment. Please don’t fight racism by becoming one.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/phazex_female/ phazex_female

    I “see” this all of the time. From the pseudo-intellect to what I call the heavy-hitters. And this just in? This DOES encompass ALL races. One should NEVER be validated by checking a barometer to see where they are on the barometer of the euro-clowns I have never given a rat’s arse)and for far too long, Many of our black people DO actually brain-wash our own that “what they think” is critical and this form of thinking should come to a HALT. Stop indoctrinating the ones BEHIND us with this bullchit. The euro-clowns may control the wealth (for now), but it IS our black people that should be affirming, as well as validating each other. I find that “intelligent” persons are those that are and remain, informed. When you have garnered intellect? YOU have nothing to prove.

    You can be the “LEAST” loudest in the room, yet have the MOST “presence” if you follow me.

    The outcome of your thinking and actions “proofs” that you can provide.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/shippper2009/ shippper2009

    bj24681357 im sure you are good at what you do, so stick to giving brain instead of trying to reason with it.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Splash_Waters253/ Splash_Waters253

    This chalk bytch makes a comment about asking a black person(if you can find one) if intelligent blacks have a harder time but yet you talkin bout racist comments. Both laker and bj=blow job betty need to ask themselves why they pales a.sses are on bp. To come on here and imply that there are no intelligient black people or its not easy to find one is ridiculous but since you are on bp I guess its unintelligient black men u are chasing. Stupid hoes on bp looking to trap a nagga and get em locked up.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/shenandoahOK/ shenandoahOK

    The majority of white people think blacks are less intelligent than them. When watching a football game, the commentators refer to black players’ physical assets, and they make comments about the white players’ mental assets. Whenever a Hollywood movie comes out with a black protagonist that fights against the white antagonist, the white, bad guy always makes a comment that suggests the black hero is lacking intelligence on some level. Hollywood cannot make a movie with a black hero and white, bad guy without putting this mental stereotype in the movie. In addition, the black characters in leadership positions in a movie usually have a white character telling them it’s okay. You can do it. Just put one foot in front of the other foot.

    Some subtle movie themes are an extension of real life. White people usually believe that black people are less intelligent, and a smart black person’s intelligence is a little less than an average white person’s intelligence. If two men, one black and the other one white, are hired to do taxes for an entire company, the majority of people will try to hop in the white man’s line, including a lot of the blacks because they fear the black man will screw up their paperwork.

    How do I deal with this? Since I know this exist, I just don’t care. When I go to work, I do my job, go to the gym, and then I head home to my family. When I go to work, I’m not doing my job to change people’s view of black people. That’s an insane journey. The white man’s view of black people is etched in stone, and for me to go crazy because of it puts too much power in a bunch of average white people’s hands. I think too many black people are worried about what white people think of them. That’s just plain silly and shameful. If I feel the top bosses are being unfair to me, I start shopping for a new job. Life is too short to stress over things you can’t change.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/shenandoahOK/ shenandoahOK

    I hate when I get sidetracked. How do you write an article like this without being somewhat offensive? When I read this article, it almost felt as if an intelligent black person was like a unicorn–only found in works of fiction. In addition, this article made me feel that every black person that claims to have one iota of intelligence has to be angry, or that person really isn’t that brilliant. That sucks, man. The only thing all that anger will achieve is heart disease.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Heatroxxx/ Heatroxxx

    My point is this, why are the posters calling themselves black? I’ve seen that color and our skin doesn’t match it, why not change that word to accurately reflect where our ancestry originates from Africa as in African-American. Just because Jesse Jackson said that our people should call ourselves out of our name doesn’t mean that we should oblige him, just a thought..I hope that it spreads.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/SampleKingsDotCom/ SampleKingsDotCom

    Whites are not not more intelligent then any one else. White Americans tend to form groups that work together, part of their European cultural history, within their communities creating companies and institutions that allows those that are intelligent, work hard, smart, and white, to achieve and lead in the system for the good of the group. Whites also tend to spend more time educating their young in the best schools in their community and save money to pass on to them if they can from banks in their community.

    We blacks are as intelligent as any one else we just don’t form many social and business groups that enhance the community and control it to develop for the greater good of all. So we’ve become a traveling labor force where we travel from our home’s to another community to work and shop. This tends to take up more time for employment, spending more cash for work related expense, travel, food, and shopping. We see less of our kids, become the last hired and the first fired no matter how smart you are, so black communities don’t grow businesses and institutions, and those with the intelligence and work ethic to help do so don’t get to contribute to the greater good of the Black community and pass those values on. The children don’t get to work near by and have to travel as well to get a great education. For blacks that have a higher intelligence the road is hard but must start with the community.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/shenandoahOK/ shenandoahOK

    Heatroxx, I’m not sure what you have against Jesse Jackson, but he has dedicated his life so that we (black Americans) may have a better quality of life in America if we choose to have it. He has made some mistakes and sometimes thought with the wrong head, but he has always been dedicated to the betterment of black Americans, hard working Americans, and the underdogs.

    In general, African American is the correct term because it signifies that we are Americans of African descent; however, black American is still an acceptable term, a term that is much better than Negro American or colored, in my humble opinion. When writing formal papers, I would more than likely use African American over black American since African American is the standard, but I think of myself as a black American.

    Change isn’t easy. As a kid, I wanted my cousins to stop using the n-word. It was a despicable word not fit for a dog, but they continued to use it. The n-word gives an impression that the user is uneducated, lazy, and a thug, but the users say, “It’s a term of endearment.” It’s hard to believe the term “Black American” is offensive to some when we have an entire generation of African Americans calling each other the n-word. I think I will encourage people to stop using the n-word before I start biting the heads off of people using the term “Black American.”

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    @loserboy19 and bj24681357-ya’ll are some real A$$ CRACKS for your comments and why don’t ya’ll take your happy go lucky a$$es to an all white planet and get off of BP because your always making an a$$ of yourself. Ya’ll typed some ignorant sh*t up as if-its cool to read-its more like sh*t in a toilet and your the sh*t(loserboy19)and bj24681357 is the bad smell that come along with the sh*t…nobody wants to smell your dirty racist a$$es. So FLUSH FLUSH SH*T A$$ CRACKS…LMAOS and SMILING :)

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  • http://www.blackplanet.com/ms_real2008/ ms_real2008

    I feel that this statement is true about intelligent black people having a hard time in society. James Baldwin’s statement is correct, even to this day. I, myself have experienced this. People feel that when i speak proper english (not British, love the accent though) assume that i’m trying to be white or that i’m white over the phone. When they see me, they go “oh, i though you were white”. In the neighborhood where i grew up, ignorant black folks thought that i was trying to be better than them (which i wasn’t), an oreo (white on the inside, black on the outside) while many whites still looked at me as another black person, even though i was an outsider in that community as well.
    Its an double edged sword when trying to decide if you want to continue to prove your intelligence to whites or play the dumb stereotype that people believe black people are known for (be a phony) while it can drive you crazy. So its damned if you do and damned if you don’t. Might as well be yourself and keep it moving from those who can’t accept you for you.

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  • http://www.blackplanet.com/LeKese/ LeKese

    Why is it so difficult for people to post an objective or subjective opinion. Intelligent dialogue is the only way to communicate effectively. Explicit language and insults will only hold up the process and progress of people in whole.

    Please stay on course and post only comments pertaining to the subject at hand.

    Thanks

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/LeKese/ LeKese

    Ms_Real2008, you are absolutely right; keep it real and keep it moving. You will soon be aligned with those of your same caliber and those who were outside your realm of reality will be a thing of the past.

    As Teairra Mari said in one of her songs; we need to begin telling some people to “Stay In Your Lane”. We need not be bogged down with the slow levels of intellect because it will only slow down our own forward progress.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/coldheart7/ coldheart7

    @lakerdude

    sarcasm is often hit and miss. sometimes it’s because someone isn’t intelligent enough to understand it. but in this case i think because of the context of this article that what you typed was taken at face value. i have to say that before i read your later posts i honestly thought you were some white dude who thought he was smarter than anyone else on this site. because there are people out there with thoughts and opinions that make you wonder “are they joking or just stupid?”

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/mima57/ mima57

    Why is sticking to the subject such a duanting proposition? I think the question was, Do intelligent black people have a harder time? Unless they surround themselves w/like minded folk, emphatically YES. But when they do (sueeound themselves w/like minded folk), they are UNCLE TOM’S and SELLOUTS. The example I like to use is this: There is a fine line between being an azz kisser and a good employee.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/rjrcin/ rjrcin

    Mima57, it is my experience and my observation that if a black person is intelligent, the only way he can find like-minded blacks is if he, or his parents, have money. The first time I ever saw other black kids who were smart was in high school, and most of them lived in the middle-class areas of cincinnati. If you are black, smart, and stuck in the ghetto, you probably won’t find anyone like minded. The negative of that is that you just might believe, like i did for a while, that the only way to find people like yourself, is to hang around white people, since you are made to feel that you are not black if you are smart.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/sascmom_32/ sascmom_32

    Ignorance within black people is glorified more than intelligence. Ignorance is less intimidating among whites than intelligence. Movies, songs and even at the job. When Caucasians feel they have the upper hand over you they are more superior regardless if you have the mind set, education or experiences. There have been many jobs given to a friend with less experience than to a qualified, experienced, educated black person. It’s frustrating, but in order to get ahead you have to play the game. I have a co worker who plays the “damsel in distress” card all the time. She complains how she cannot meet her goals or contact customers or come prepared to meetings regarding her accounts. She gets the free pass, get felt sorry for, gets the help. Me, I come prepared, on time, sometime ahead of the game bring my questions and solutions for issues and disputes. I get cut down and challenged not even respected or acknowledged for my expertise. I keep a small reading at my desk that I found in a fortune cookie which says, “Be smart, but never show it” Sometime blacks have to “dumb” down to white people just to stay in the game. It’s pathetic but what can you do?

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/rjrcin/ rjrcin

    The Afrocentrics, who I usually agree with, got it wrong in one aspect of their educational philosophy, that is their belief in cooperative learning. It is too bad too, because they have the right idea in terms of what our children should be taught and who should teach them. They nevertheless believe that children should move trough the curriculum as a group and that those more able should help those less able. Maybe it is not am issue since it seems that children in Afrocentric schools do better on tests – supposedly culturally biased – than children in regular schools. Unless you are going to put the highly able child on the payroll, it is not that child’s responsibility to make the other kids learn. That is as bad as asking older kids to help raise their younger siblings. Just something else I wanted to add to the discussion of black intelligence. Kids who are still wanting to learn new stuff shouldn’t be made to help teach other children stuff those other children should already know.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Ramses_NY/ Ramses_NY

    Im really feeling this post. As a child, I’d rather read than play basketball, which to no surprise caused many of my teachers to act as if something was wrong with me. My fellow classmates on the other hand, supported my reading. I think theres a huge misconception in the black community, that black people despise education and intelligence. In my opinion, we’ve been brainwashed by white educators and simple minded negro preachers, to dumb ourselves down. In the prison letters of George Jackson, George talks about how black people love to prop up the intelligent among us, only to than stand back silently as society tears us down. Which is why alot of born leaders, end up becoming hustlers and exploiters of the community. To answer your question, what you do is obtain the best education you can, than flip it around on the system. Open your own schools, after school programs, and re-invest in the community. And teach the next generation to do the same.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/rjrcin/ rjrcin

    What kind of neighborhood did you grow up in and what kind of school did you go to? I am living proof that ghetto classmates do not support reading over basketball or any other sport

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Dexamir/ Dexamir

    Intelligence shall always be shunned in opposition to the comfort of what ignorance can provide in this “ignorant” country. I grew up on the East side of Detroit Mack Ave and Pennsylvania area. My mother, always held education in high esteem, and thus as one of her children I was expected to act proper/educated at all times. I thank her for the drive and the determination to take constant mental, and physical abuse from my “brothers and sisters” who hated me for being me. I used to be baffled by why such hate, until one day, I began to see the truth of it in my own opinion. What is this America if not a prison for the black mind? We are prisoners to anglo/white thought, anglo/white diction, anglo/white religion. We fail to grasp to their ideals because their ideals and philosophies, their very way of thinking is contrary to the black mind which has suffered a great sustained trauma that is now passed from generation to generation with no real foundation to heal. Perhaps one day, a black man that has the ability to embrace the self-sacrifice necessary to build what is needed for a stable foundation. Until that time, we are just following the numbers…after-all didn’t white people, in all of their respective cultures, do much worse for the “social superiority” that they enjoy today? For all things there is a beginning and an end, our main question in my opinion should be, what do can we do to survive their inevitable fall.
    -TSN

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  • http://www.blackplanet.com/phazex_female/ phazex_female

    This article hit it line after line for me. I’m going to print this one to share. So true!

    I agree–intelligence should always be shunned if it is not one does not use it with respect to uplifting, educating and leading. Then, it becomes nothing more than self-filled importance (and sometimes arrogance). I am for, by and ABOUT my black people, but the flame-throwers of that crab mentality? They ARE a mother to contend with! Our black people USED to be such a close-knit AND spiritual race. I’m not feeling that much anymore. You just have to keep yourself surrounded with like mind-sets.

    It IS hard to fight a, “I am a victim mentality.”

    But we carry on…

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/AfricanSpeech/ AfricanSpeech

    Do you really wanna know?

    Welcome to my world…

    You forgot the third option…

    You can have the Bruce Wayne/Batman personality

    On one hand, you mask your real self to intellectually beat the stuffing out of your inferiors (white and non-white) and derive pleasure of bringing down the less intelligent and arrogant people

    And then in the daytime, you are reasonably well-off dude who plays the game to get what he wants and makes the others looking like the fools you know they are…

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/AfricanSpeech/ AfricanSpeech

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    any white person that I have met in my life. Don’t think for one moment that any of these black guys are remotely stupid, in fact, they all posess their own unique intelligence that has been proven very useful. I found incredible ability and drive in executing certain tasks, that I know takes a type of intelligence that is definitely beyond average. I found that with love and respect those superficial insecurities and barriers dissappear into thin air. I hate to see people suffer, because of cliche’s and labelling and I see no point in making anyone feel inferior in any way. I got to the point that I realised there are only 2 types of people – those who cause chaos and those who build up. I choose to be part of the builders and I told everyone around me in the workplace that we have roughly a maximum of 16 hours a day that we can spend around negative emotions or we can build each other in each and every moment that we spend on the job. The result of this Christian culture is: We really enjoy each-other, we are very productive. People are doing smart things because they are treated in a way that encourages smart behaviour. People are truly free to the point that we actually make jokes about people who are bound by cliche’s.

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    at every turn the intelligent african american is being disenfranchised. in white america we are seen as charity cases but are never held to the same standards or given the same respect as our non black counterparts. in black america we are seen as sellouts our on black communites neglect the intellectual capital that flows through their communities looking to white america for the intellectually wealth in turn mocking theyre on.
    my plan do what white america does. the intellectual elite of white america subjugates the less intelligent of there population to working in their system. people such as bill gates steve jobs the bush family (who have had a remarkably intelligent blood line up until recently) have ruled over america using the less intelligent for the gain in turn improving their communities. african americans should look to this example.
    an example of when this approach was used was in durham north carolina in its earlier years. a series of graduates from Shaw University in Raleigh flocked to this city and made it what it is today. mostly med school graduates they set up practises in the predominately african american community who often found employment at tobacoo factories. the men took advantage of this large population. they started north carolina mutual life insurance company. the oldest african american run business in the country. they built one of the best african american communities in the country. creating churches hospitals funeral homes and educational infrastructure such as the black hillside high school who won the state football championships last year and North Carolina Central University who was the first public liberal arts school in the country and is the highest ranked public liberal arts university on the hbcu rankings. successful institutions and communities like this is what happens when nerds run our communites. we should not step to the side and watch our communities destroy themselves. no we step up and take advantage of them. it is in theyre best interest.

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