Trevor Noah is the real MVP of political commentary shows.

The Daily Show host always says it like it is–in the most sensible way–forcing viewers to look at situations from the point of view of a biracial African man living in America.The Blaze host Tomi Lahren couldn’t be more of an opposite.

The young conservative is known for spending most of her time bashing the Black Lives Matter movement and people of color in general, then denying she’s a racist. Lahren stopped by The Daily Show on Wednesday, TIME reports, and Noah engaged her in a pretty heated debate regarding Donald Trump, the BLM Movement, and much more.

She said in the interview, “Because I criticized a black person or I criticized the Black Lives Matter movement that doesn’t mean that I’m anti-black. It does not mean that I don’t like black people or that I’m a racist. I don’t see color. I go after Hillary Clinton and she’s as white as they come.” 

But her statement didn’t seem to sit well with Noah, who replied, “You don’t see color? So what do you do at a traffic light? I don’t believe in that at all. There’s nothing wrong with seeing color, it’s how you treat color that’s more important.”

The dispute didn’t stop there. Lahren went on to discuss her feelings about Trump’s Access Hollywood tape, in which he can be heard making crude comments about women, saying, “I’m comparing Donald Trump to Hillary Clinton, not the pope and not God. So for me, what he said…it’s not defensible. But I’m still comparing someone who said some nasty things to a woman that has done nasty things.”

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