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Some have been waiting for Bishop T.D. Jakes to speak up on the scandal involving the other southern mega-pastor down the road, Bishop Eddie Long. Jakes recently commented on Long’s case, stating that Christians should simply pray for Long because they don’t have the right to do much of anything else.

Long was accused of sexual coercion by four young men in his care at New Birth Missionary Baptist Church. A lawsuit was filed, which Bishop Long settled for an undisclosed amount of money. It was reported that Long paid $25 million for the settlement and has chosen to keep the details of the case quiet.

At The Potter’s House in Dallas, Jakes said “Christians should just pray,” for Long.

“When all this is over, one thing is for sure – somebody, if not everybody in it, is going to need the blood [of Jesus Christ].”

Not only does Jakes say that Christians should pray for Long, he says that they don’t have the authority to do anything else.

“We have no other authority but to pray,” he said. “The New Birth Church is a church unto itself who has a board and it has a membership. How they choose to handle their leadership issues is not something that we can control regardless of which side you stay on that issue. It is their issue and their responsibility and their response.”

How convenient that Bishop Long would avoid appearing to support his friend, who might be a gay child molester, but would support his right to handle the situation in his own, private way. With Bishop Jakes’ remarks, in conjunction with those of Creflo Dollar, we are finding that friendship can go much deeper than doing the right thing when it comes to protecting our colleagues.

I wish I could be more diplomatic when discussing the remarks of Bishop Jakes, who is a man I could end up meeting at some point in the near future. But when it comes to protecting young children, I simply cannot allow any of us to skirt around the issue. I can’t imagine anyone who stands firmly behind the legacy of Jesus Christ to simply overlook the idea that an alleged man of god might be harming young children who’ve been convinced to trust him like a father.

While Bishop Jakes stops short of either endorsing or condemning Long, he certainly appears to be protecting him. A pastor who also happens to be an expert at church organizational structure commented to me that one of the great problems of the New Birth Missionary Baptist Church is that, for far too long, it was a shop that was run and controlled by Bishop Eddie Long. Board members existed, but few would stand in defiance of a pastor who’d made his own name bigger than that of his church. As a result, allowing this very serious sexual coercion issue to be handled by the board behind closed doors is like allowing an accused criminal to be judged by his own family.

I don’t trust that the board at New Birth has the ability to protect the children in that church, because I fully suspect that Bishop Long’s behavior was allowed to continue due to the negligence of silent enablers of his egregious activity. I also interpret the remarks of T.D. Jakes and Creflo Dollar (who strongly supported Long’s right to forgiveness) to be part of a concerted strategy to support their friend without running into criticism from their own congregations. The reality, however, is that there are moments in our lives when we must ask ourselves the simple question, “What would Jesus do?”

Personally, I don’t believe Jesus would protect a man accused of sexually abusing children in the church, even if he were to lose his Rolls Royce in the process. I encourage Jakes and Dollar to do the right thing and speak up on behalf of the poor boys who may have been perpetually damaged by the man they trusted with their lives. These allegations, which are not being publicly refuted by Long, are simply unforgivable.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Donovan-Kennedy/1176887677 Donovan Kennedy

    “TD Jakes Should Stop Defending Bishop Eddie Long”

    They are both frauds, so who cares.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/lovethemseasoned/ lovethemseasoned

    Its amazing how Dr Watkins on Jakes case about having his own thoughts with this matter. Duh Peter walked with Jesus, seen the miracles with his own eyes, but yet denied Christ thrice. How can you hold people who only read about “J.C” then those who actually walked with him.

    AGE OF CONSENT in the state of GA is 16 so by the law there no issue. Was he wrong, YES!!!. If you really would like the help the “children” as you say, you will promote marriage in the black family, try to reduce the numbers of unwed mothers through education and birth control. Lack of a positive male role model is the destroy the black family

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/franknitty410/ franknitty410

    its not td jakes church so i dont think he has to condemn eddie long his members are leaving public believes he did it only reason he aint in jail is because he a millionaire but as long as he’s exposed thats all that matters

  • http://www.wisdomhouseonline.com/ WPM

    I guess the blood of “their” Jesus equals license to engage in homosexual acts…

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/germandog21/ germandog21

    BOTH ARE PULPIT PIMPS, GETTING RICHER AND RICHER AND RICHER OF MANY POOR PEOPLE THAT SHOULD BE SAVING THEIR HOMES OR INVESTING MONEY IN THEIR CHILDREN’S EDUCATION…..BUT INSTEAD THEY ARE BUYING THESE NIGGAS ROLLS ROYCES, BENTLEY’S, MANSIONS, FAT BANK ACCOUNTS, AND LAVISH LIFESTYLES.

    MUTHAF**K EDDIE LONG DICK, CREFLO DOLLAR, AND T.D. JAKES

  • Anonymous

    My thoughts exactly, LOL. Amen to that.

  • Anonymous

    Well, it’s probably because T.D. Fakes has is own gay son to worry about, who was arrested 2 years ago for masturbating in a public park. Only so much glory of gawdt can be spread around in a day! This OpEd is a waste of your talent, Dr. Boykins, because there is no legitimacy to be found in any of this mess: not in Jeezus the Hebrew astronaut, not in the church, no in the bible (that’s been translated 1 million times), and certainly not in these pulpit pimps.

    SAVE YO SELF.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/easy_one65/ easy_one65

    I concur.
    What ever happened to “principles”??!! Even Jesus Christ wouldn’t defend a person like Eddie Long!!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/reubenshow Reuben Armstrong

    Read the Book” Snakes in the Pulpit” and Crooks and Homos in the Pulpit ” http://www.reubenarmstrongshow.com

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_A7KWIEDKLUATAL25TI23KCF2IE Frosty_042520

    I do not know what Jesus would. The best example I could find is the woman caught in adultery. It’s not what people are saying about Bishop Long. It just looks to me that Jesus would Pray for him releasing Bishop Long from his sins and tell him to sin no more. Regardless, there would be LOVE from Jesus for Bishop Eddie Long. Come to think of it, yes I do know what Jesus would do and that is to LOVE him despite of. Regardless of how you feel Love is the turning point for all un-justice!

    New American Standard Bible (©1995)
    1Peter 4:8
    Above all, keep fervent in your love for one another, because love covers a multitude of sins.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/_A_/ _A_

    I agree with Jakes. No one has the authority to do anything about Long. However, people should have the authority over what THEY choose to believe and do for themselves. If people are willing to forgive and forget, then let them. They will ultimately have to pay the price for their decision. I personally believe that Long, Dollar and Jakes among thousands of others, lead our people astray, but who should I blame? With all the access to information out here, people need to question and research what it is they are following and make the determination for themselves. I really don’t blame Jakes for taking that neutral stance on Long, because quite frankly, that’s not really his problem!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/KIR10/ KIR10

    Why are you singling out T.D. Jake’s? Where’s Jesse…. where’s Farrakhan? What well know African American preacher, politician or entertainer has publicly spoken out against Eddie Long, None?!!. Now do you all see what I’m talking about? We don’t like to look in the mirror. And, we don’t like to throw rocks in our on neighborhood because we might miss and hit our on glass house…. not even for our own little boys. Their is no leadership of conviction. Only leadership of convenience. If our self anointed leaders can point a finger at de big bad Republican or de evil White man they’re all in, however when there’s a possibility that they’re going to loose some skin off their own teeth and their most certainly going to loose some of their own blood in a fight. They don’t want to get involved. We are leaderless. We are lost.

  • Anonymous

    If the quote of Jakes is correct, then Mr. Watkins is incorrect. According to the quotes here, unless there’s something missing, Jakes did not say Christians don’t have the authority to do anything else; he said The New Birth Church has authority to handle the Long situation.

    Having said that, the Good Book is clear: if any brother or sister of the Church is in error, then at least 2 other church members should approach that person in private about the matter. If that person still continues in the error, then he can be booted. All true churches follow this simple process.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/KIR10/ KIR10

    double post

  • Anonymous

    Continue on with your endless blasphemies, vile one. Scorn the Good Master as you and your dark lord please. And when your miserable life is finished, you can’t say you were not forewarned.

  • Anonymous

    Umm he is right!!! If the congregation aint gripping who are we to say what they should do!!! Sad day I tell you!!

  • Anonymous

    Ni99a, PLEASE!! What chapter of Lord of The Rings did you get that from? Since your sky kingdom seems to only have a bunch of ignorant, bigoted hypocrites like you, I’ll take my chances elsewhere.

    Gawdt bless!

  • Anonymous

    Ah yes, I’ve read Harry Potter & The Sorcerer’s Stone as well. It is indeed a good book! Or were your referring to Lord of the Rings; perhaps The Golden Compass? I doubt you could mean one of the many versions of the bible, as that shouldn’t be grouped in other with works of fiction.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/laid01/ laid01

    The writer nailed it right on the spot; these folks meticulously pick and choose their words because they
    all have skeletons in their wardrobe, so why draw unnecessary attention to them selves? they try to be very liberal on their stance but I’m pretty sure that behind closed doors, the must be disgusted by Eddie long’s f****t ass.
    secondly, they sure can’t afford loosing a quoter of their “business venture” all because of what another f****t pastor did at his own church. that’s bad business for them…

  • http://www.mrsday.com Erica Day

    There is no board at New Birth. It is registered as a corporation with no board and Long as the CEO. Technically, nobody can MAKE him do anything. All they can do is leave.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/smittyboy7/ smittyboy7

    Of course he’s not going to speak out against another pullpit gangster.Crooks of a feather ROB TOGETHER!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_55R6I3SLPHBX5H52IIUKH3GOPQ harolde

    the people at newbirth r SOS stuck on stupid.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/kasada/ kasada

    First, enough already…
    These “children” were above the age of consent and not so damaged that they did not ask for and receive a very large sum of money. I’d say everybody got exactly what they wanted.
    Second, I’m still confused as how it can ever be said a church with tens or hundred thousands of followers is anything more than a business. Even T D Jakes is a business. I don’t see any of these mega churches doing anything to help the people who support them. I haven’t heard about them helping people pay mortgage’s so they could keep their houses or bills when they need help. No feeding, clothing or housing homeless. These churches have millions of dollars in assets that should be used to help uplift not just the people who support them but the communities as well.
    That should be your concern.
    And oh yeah, when you asked, “What would Jesus do?” Exactly what T D Jakes said. Be a true Christian and PRAY for him, vengeance is GOD’s alone to give. As far as I know, he hasn’t failed yet.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/2Queens11434/ 2Queens11434

    hahaha!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/2Queens11434/ 2Queens11434

    I didn’t know that.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/2Queens11434/ 2Queens11434

    Uh oh!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/2Queens11434/ 2Queens11434

    You know Dr. Boyce teaches finance at a university…he’s blogs are okay…but once in a while I would like to see him write about the economy and how policies affect us working black folks (not the entitlement crowd).

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7LJNWNONSMWCDXKJZ52KPL3KPQ M M

    how much does it cost for you to open up your own bible?????

  • Shan Baker

    I agree with you statement but I just wouldn’t add T.D. Jakes as a man who is leading people astray. Of these two colleagues- he is the one who has paperwork to what he’s doing as far as his own money. This man has written substantial, worthy books that reach masses outside of his church and he also has done now TWO movies, on BIG SCREENS- plus a residential real estate development and has paid off the multi-million dollar church. So to me- he proves his worth and let’s not mention his sold out conventions for men and women, annually on top of all other things he does. He’s written plays and produced them also with a sound track included. I’ve never heard of Long or Creflo Dollar doing these things. Bishop Jakes has been on the front of TIME Magazine but those two haven’t. So he’s done a lot and he has earned his money. This man truly WORKS!!!

  • Shan Baker

    I agree with you statement but I just wouldn’t add T.D. Jakes as a man who is leading people astray. Of these two colleagues- he is the one who has paperwork to what he’s doing as far as his own money. This man has written substantial, worthy books that reach masses outside of his church and he also has done now TWO movies, on BIG SCREENS- plus a residential real estate development and has paid off the multi-million dollar church. So to me- he proves his worth and let’s not mention his sold out conventions for men and women, annually on top of all other things he does. He’s written plays and produced them also with a sound track included. I’ve never heard of Long or Creflo Dollar doing these things. Bishop Jakes has been on the front of TIME Magazine but those two haven’t. So he’s done a lot and he has earned his money. This man truly WORKS!!!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7LJNWNONSMWCDXKJZ52KPL3KPQ M M

    can u repeat that please?????????????????????????????? AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7LJNWNONSMWCDXKJZ52KPL3KPQ M M

    AT HOME???????

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/_A_/ _A_

    I feel you. To be clear, I never accused him of misappropriating funds. I personally don’t believe in Christianity, so that was what I was referring to. But I feel and acknowledge the respect you have for him!

  • Anonymous

    This incident is definitely separating the real men of god from the frauds. Bishop Paul Morton spoke against Eddie Long and told him to repent and stop hiding. That is a far cry from the likes of these mega pimps whose allegiance seems to be more with their fellow pimp-brothers than God and doing what the bible says to do doing these trying times. Jesus and his Apostles openly rebuked all evil, including in the church.

  • Anonymous

    We cant Judge…thats not up to us!! Thats God Job!! All we can do is pray that the will of God will come to pass.

  • http://twitter.com/TheSpellbinder Walter King Jr.

    This was a bunch of hype to sell Crown Royal ads. There is no “recent” interview of Jakes saying this. They are pulling from a statement he made last year when the Long incident 1st broke and no one even knew who Long’s accuser’s were. If this is not so, give a link to the original video or transcript they are referencing. Or should I have drank some Crown Royal 1st so I wouldn’t notice this?

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=744447897 Gioia Spurlin-Busby

    AND, not surprisingly, I agree with Bishop T.D. Jakes, also, and I’m not even his fan. HE has done some things to turn me off, but when we, as Christians, say we believe the WHOLE Bible, we believe the whole Bible. Jesus’ example, being enough, “let he who is without sin cast the first stone”, and “woe to him that offends the least of these”. We stand on this scriptures firmly and KNOW that true justice will prevail.

    DO YOU KNOW THE MEMBERS OF THE CHURCH BOARD at New Birth? I don’t, but I trust they were appointed by the members of the congregation, and your statements insult ALL of them; you insult their integrity, morality, and sensibility.

    I don’t see Bishop Jakes as covering for Bishop Long or leading Christians astray, but as upholding God’s Word.

    It’s bad enough when you have discord in your church; members will stray, some will find other church homes, some will not. The psychological impact is phenomenal. I know this from personal experience. But you don’t need to fuel the fires of hell in this terrible situation. It has its own punishment. I also feel that we, as African-Americans have been divided long enough, and if we cannot unite on Holy Scripture, what is left?

    You may have a doctorate from a university, but seek your Ph.D. in His Holy Word–that’s a much better degree to have.

  • Anonymous

    Right on Dr. Boyce Watkins!

    No pastor should be defending Eddie Long in this circ**stance. Where is their empathy for the young men whose lives have been deeply affected by Longs misdeeds.

    Dr. Watkins asked, WWJD? Well personally, I think Jesus would condemn Long for his actions and he would love and heal the young victims. Additionally, I believe that Jesus would hot be supporting hate speech towards anyone from the pulpit. For my bible tells me that Jesus love everyone from ALL walks of life. However, Jesus teachings strongly denounced deceit, evil doers, and those who failed to stand on the ground of the REAL TRUTH!!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Kate-Sannicks-Lerner/567558382 Kate Sannicks-Lerner

    Well, sure, pray for Bishop Long… but that doesn’t mean he shouldn’t be held accountable! He must answer to both the law and to the church. The law will determine his sentence; to be accountable to his church, he should step down. Now, if Bishop Jakes is saying to pray for him and still be held accountable, good. If he’s saying he shouldn’t be held accountable… hm…

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=744447897 Gioia Spurlin-Busby

    I appreciate opinions expressed with intellect, whether they conflict with mine, or not.

    However, these mega churches do have effective ministries that help the sick, needy, and poor, both domestically and internationally.

    You don’t have to wait to “hear” what these churches do; you can request the public transcripts and/0r statements made on behalf of these churches from the accounting firms that do their audits. Each church has the information on its website.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/missbetty/ missbetty

    Birds of a feather,flocking together.I used to like Td Jakes when he was humble,afew members,but when the membership increase so does the arrogance.What is it about fame and money?I had a dear friend who had a truck that I needed temporarily.When we got to the store i told him to come on in.”I’m broke”I told him you can’t take it with you,he said”but I need it while I’m here”Probably Jakes,Dollar,Joel,forgot his last name,ready Freddie Price etc.their theory.I feel these big shot pastors should speak out against Long,what he did was wrong,yeah forgiveness is devine but punishment is justified in this case.I’m fascinated by folk who are so mesmerised by the shepherd they seem to forget about God.Control is a b##h.

  • http://www.facebook.com/mschinadoll.patterson04 MsChinadoll Patterson

    All I have to say is there really shouldn’t have been a settlement; the truth should have come out since it was made public. Therefore, it would have only been fair for the public to know the real truth about what actually happen in this ordeal. Then everyone would have known who was telling the truth. Settling just only makes it look like the Bishop is guilty.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Mimiboo_15/ Mimiboo_15

    i dnt see how Jakes simply saying pray for Long because we dnt have the authority to judge as him supporting Long..all he is saying is pray for the man or atleast for his soul

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/BENTLEY_VAN/ BENTLEY_VAN

    see some folks be crying the blues
    when these catholic priest get away with this
    sexual activities((by boneing little boys)) and the pope sitting at the vatican
    ((sitting around doing nothing))

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/laid01/ laid01

    really.. that sounds like straight up business venture to me as opposed to a church of worship… smdh

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/germandog21/ germandog21

    Anyone would have to respect Jakes as an excellent businessman. I respect how you feel about him.
    And I’m sure he has amassed great wealth for himself. To me, a minister must be morally upright and I have not reason to doubt Jakes there either. To be fair, jakes seems a cut above several mega ministers.

    My only little issue with Jakes has to do with the commercialization on religion, financial agendas that stand in front of the reason for the religion, and given the great wealth of Mr. Jake’s “church businesses”….HOW ARE SUCH FUNDS HANDLED TO GLORIFY CHRIST? IS THE WEALTH TO BE USED IN THE WAYS THAT CHRIST WOULD WANT TO ASSIST HIS FOLLOWERS?

    THERE ARE MANY CHURCH FOLLOWERS THAT MAY BE STARVING, HOMES IN FORECLOSURE, HAVE KIDS THAT NEED HELP, AND FAMILIES IN NEED OF ALL SORTS OF HELP.

    I BELIEVE CHRIST AND ALL GOD INSPIRED MEN THROUGHOUT HISTORY WOULD ALWAYS BE WILLING TO HELP THEIR FELLOW MAN.

    SO IF JAKES IS SITTING ON HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS, IS MOSTLY CONCERNED ABOUT GETTING RICHER, ALL WHILE HIS FOLLOWERS NEED HELP (AND EXPECTING MORE MONEY FROM THE FLOCK), that isn’t christianity, that’s HUSTLING!!!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/I_Jus_B_Blaz_n/ I_Jus_B_Blaz_n

    ALL PART OF THEM ILLUMINATI. IF YOU GUYS THOUGHT IT WAS JUST RAPPERS, THEN YOU GUYS ARE SADLY MISTAKEN. LONG, JAKES, ESPECIALLY DOLLAR, AND A COUPLE OF PASTORS DOWN HERE IN ATL ARE APART OF THIS. NOW JUST WATCH AS ONE BY ONE THEY’LL GET EXPOSED FOR THE INDECENCY OF ACTION BEHIND CLOSED DOORS. SMH

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/I_Jus_B_Blaz_n/ I_Jus_B_Blaz_n

    they are sadly misguided. not stupid. it’s hard to stray away from someone who you gave entire trust, and confidentiality too.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/MrBossluva39/ MrBossluva39

    So what you’re saying because he has so much going for himself he shouldn’t be inclined to rebuke and repudiate his gay colleague for allegedly molesting those little boys?I don’t get what you’re saying.I’m sure Bishop Jakes,in his Sunday Sermons,has been quick to rebuke members of his congregation for their sins and was sure to admonish them to confess those sins and repent before God.Yet,he can’t fix his mouth to do the Godly thing and say that if the allegations against Bishop Long are indeed,true,then he needs to do more than repent before God.He needs to get help!!

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  • http://www.blackplanet.com/jazzwatch/ jazzwatch

    They might bully/con/BS the parisoners….they get rich and get the mansions, Bentleys and the Rolexes, but God is looking in on THIS…..and HE will make the call….and rather go for the Poor People who doesn’t do ANY of this…….

  • Anonymous

    I remember a couple of years back when attending at least 3 of these Black Owned mega churches. First and foremost the Minute I hear something like “I feel the presence of God in this area (as they point to one side of the room) leading someone to give a $50 seed” I know right then and there that there will be so many things that are off about the church itself. I attended church my entire life and was baffled at how much Black Churches lacked in the teaching department. Every sermon somehow leads back to how we can increase the organizations bank account. These outrageous seminars and overpriced conferences. I am amazed that people are unable to locate amazon.com and order a bible to read for themselves! I called these churches a poor “Blacks” tax. God already talks about people that want to gain wealth fast. Ps. 10:3 He says to study to show thyself approved 2 Timothy 2:15. He also talks about how a poor man appears to be rich and a rich man poor

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/melonb_36/ melonb_36

    i agree with bishop jakes also he without sin cast the first stone and u ask the question what would Jesus do? u really dont want the answer to that question because i know for a fact u wouldnt like it. Just like he told the woman who committed adultery, He without sin cast the first stone. nobody could do it cos they all had sin in their life and so do u. u might cast a stone but it came back and hit u. He told the woman go and sin nomore. Her life didnt end. The gallo u trying to build for bishop dont hang yourself with it. just like bishop said pray for bishop long and for yourself that u wont fall into divers temptation. cos when u pointing a finger to him 3 more fingers are pointing back at u and Jesus said forgive 7 x70 and then some. this is the world problem today theey dont know how to forgive, thats why they need to pray God say if u dont forgives others their sin u wont b forgiven yours and all left for u is the lake of fire. Im not saying he is guilty or innocent i do know God knows all things. Ithank God for His mercy cos if it wasnt for His mercy we would all b consumed. dont act like u aint neva done nuthing in your life that deserved death in the sight of God. all sin stink to His nostrils. so let us bring our highminded self down and humble ourselves under the mighty hand of God

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/melonb_36/ melonb_36

    why should he fix his mouth to say that, just cos he wont say what YOU think he should say doesnt make him wrong. and u said it allegedly, do u not know that the Bible say the prayers of a righteous man availeth much. and the Bible say if u see a brother overtaken in a fault, he that is spiritual rebuke him but, bishop jakes didnt see it and also all people looking at is that he settled out of court, they didnt have to accept it. but they did. so just pray for them all cos time is winding up and i definitely dont want to not have my house in order worrying about someone else business. man ought to always pray and not to faint. if we spent more time on our knees our life would be better off. He said if my people who are called by my name. would humble themselves and pray and seek my face, then will i hear from heaven,forgive their sins and heal their land. 2 chronicle 7:14

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/melonb_36/ melonb_36

    well the Bible say man or woman of God feeding us the Word of God is worthy of honor and double honor and yes the church is a business and its Gods business not mans and just cos u dont see them doing these things doesnt mean its not being done ask yourself what are u doin to help. and i didnt see where thee Bible told them to do that. in the book of Acts it said they all had things on one accord or in common and gave unto theeir needs. if they just gave out money everytime someone need their mortgage paid or etc… the church would b broke and sometimes we bring things on ourselves example buying unnecessary and not paying our bills. yes sometime things happen thats out of our hands. sometimes their giving us that Word on how to manage our money , we thee ones who dont take in the teaching or dont have the faith to build on thee teaching. but u right vegenance is God and he gone pay every man accordingly.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/melonb_36/ melonb_36

    u said aleading them to give he sure didnt put no gun to their head and make them but u right about the jordans dont leave out getting their nails done hair done.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/melonb_36/ melonb_36

    well u have your opinion because they didnt have to take the money, im so glad its 2 sides to every story. aint enuff money in the world if im claiming someone damaged my life beyond repair. but hey for the love of money is thee Root of All Evil

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    how much did it cost Jesus to die on the cross, thats right His life

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/melonb_36/ melonb_36

    im sure it is very informative but im sure its basically saying the same thing in the Bible. God already told us that in the last day their will b mockers, hirling wolves in sheep clothing. all that. we the ones getting all disimbobbilated because of the things thats going on when we shouldnt b suprise cos we know we living in the last days. we just betteer make sure we are not the smakes, or crooks or homo and pray for others that are.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/mr_ken_dallas/ mr_ken_dallas

    Gay child molester ?

    Uh…as I understand, the accusations were that Bishop Long was coercing young men who were according to Georga law, above the age of consent.

    There was never any kind of accusation of child-molestation so the writer (who was not involved, and knows none of the parties involved) is irresponsible in stating that.

    I personally stop stort of saying what Jesus would or whould’nt do, but I can speak on what Jesus DID do, who is repeadedly commanded us to be forgiving.

    I think ultimately, TD Jakes did not only what is right, but what is smart…..which is to not comment on something that he doesn’t know anything about.

    I think this one of those cases of a leader of a church showing some real wisdom.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Iwillbfree/ Iwillbfree

    Don’t forget that white boy Joel Olsteen, he’s another snake in the pulpit! Oh! Paula White and that other fe-male dyke Joyce Meyer.

    ALL DEALING IN DIRT AND STEALING IN THE NAME OF THE LAWD.

    By the way…Paula White bought T.D. Snakes a Bentley because he ‘taught her the game.’

    I’M GONNA QUIT THE SINISTRY AND GO INTO THE MINISTRY!!!!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Iwillbfree/ Iwillbfree

    According to Crefho Hollar, he’s still going to ‘heaven.’

    THESE SCREACHERS ARE A BYTCH!!!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Iwillbfree/ Iwillbfree

    Preach Minister Smittyboy7!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Iwillbfree/ Iwillbfree

    I knew about Eddye Wrong 4 years ago! I read a book entitled, SNAKES IN THE PULPIT by Rueben Armstrong, whose live was threatened for writing this book on these devils.

    You are right; Crefho Hollar, T.D. Snakes, Joel Olsteen, Paula White, Joyce Meyer will ALL be exposed sooner than later!

    ATLANTA IS THE GAY CAPITAL OF amerikkka; L.A. WAS #1, BUT the majority of church folks came from the streets, were/are gay (church is their shield), ex-addicts/alcoholics, murderers and thieves

    None of these heathens are ‘called’ by the Black Messiah because He CHOOSES a RIGHTEOUS man (through his Spirit); not by ‘calling’ them on that 800 number – 1-800-I-AM-DEVIL!!!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Iwillbfree/ Iwillbfree

    CORRECTION: LIVE s/b LIFE

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/ABLKMAN2NO/ ABLKMAN2NO

    When the Corinthian church had a man who had taken his father’s wife (his stepmother) from him, the Apostle Paul instructed them to put both of them fornicators out of the church. Which Bible is TD jakes reading from where Christians do not have authority to judge this matter. Eddie Long deserves to be stripped butt naked, tarred and feathered and run off of any church property in America and if Creflo Dollar and TD Jakes don’t like it and insist on supporting him then they can run off with his nasty butt!

  • Anonymous

    You’re correct. The author of this article apparently misunderstood Jakes (not that I’m defending Jakes in this matter). According to this article, Jakes said it is up to Long’s church members and their church board to deal with Long, not outsiders.

  • Anonymous

    Well said

  • Anonymous

    Well said. We are to be forgiving. The Good Word also gives us the command to take another church member with you and approach another member (including the church pastor, who is a member) privately about their sin in order to convince him of the error of his ways. If he repents, good. But if he doesn’t repent, then he must be removed from the church. He can be forgiven later, but only after he has shown true remorse and is committed to not repeating that same error. When a regular church member falls, it usually does not affect a lot of other members. But when a pastor-member falls, it can rip the church apart, which is why we must both pray AND take that pastor aside and go through the process of either remorse or removal.

  • Anonymous

    You bring up a good point. The Church is in fact not bounded by the four walls of a building that is being mortgaged, thus placing a burden on the members. Wherever two of you are in agreement, the Good Master is there in your midst. I go to a physical church building each week, but I don’t limit myself to that. I bring the spirit of the church wherever i go, including here (despite the hecklers and blasphemers I run across). We must all do this, so studying the Good Book on our own is essential :)

  • Anonymous

    You bring up a valid point. Those ministers with the big presence on television would not be there unless they compromised their faith in the Good Word. Notice they don’t talk about the hardcore Bible topics such as homosexuality, true jews vs false jews, ALL of the parables that the Good Master spoke of, and so on. The topics that can threaten their mortgaged churches and their multi-million dollar television ministries are swept under the rug, but a time is coming soon when all the evil secrets of men will come to light, and we will be astonished by what is revealed.

  • Anonymous

    You almost made a good point until you inserted skin color into the Messiah. The Good Master’s body has been transformed from this dying flesh into an incorruptible form. In the kingdom of heaven, which is the kingdom of love, there is neither Greek nor Jew, Black nor White. The kingdom of heaven is at hand, and it starts within the hearts of all believers. The black, white, brown, red and yellow skin colors of man are attributes of a dying flesh. Embrace love, and inherit an incorruptible body.

  • Anonymous

    The truth has a way of bubbling up to the top, regardless of whoever tries to suppress it. This secret will come out in time.

  • Anonymous

    Yes, the media of this world purposely ignore the great works that a majority of churches do, but good people like you can keep the public informed through venues like this one

  • Anonymous

    Good points. Jesus would treat Long the way he treated the Pharisees, who were hypocrites. Beware of the yeast of the Pharisees.

  • Anonymous

    Well said. We should unite on the Holy Scripture. Alas, the spirit of hate and division has gone forth and scattered the faith of many, but there are those of us who hold on to the unity as you say.

  • Anonymous

    Hmmm. Interesting point

  • Anonymous

    Yes, and the Good Master rebuked the Pharisees and criticized certain Roman government practices involving hypocrisy in taxation. Good point.

  • Anonymous

    Good point. The Good Master said ‘freely I give…’

  • Anonymous

    Although it is a good thing to read the Good Word freely at home, it is still good to congregate with fellow believers wherever you choose to do so. It doesn’t have to be in a church building, but it should be somewhere.

  • Anonymous

    I can’t speak for Long’s particular situation, but a lot of mega churches are set up where the church’s business is handled as a Non Profit, and the minister’s book deals, TV shows, etc, are handled through a separate corporate entity.

  • Anonymous

    Your blasphemies pile up, o vile one. You know in your heart of what i speak, but for comic relief and blasphemous sarcasm, you choose to ridicule the Source of Life. The Good Word is the Holy Bible. You should change your user name from Breakfuss to Blasphemuss as that is your signature. But you can still be forgiven your blasphemy. It’s one thing to simply disagree with a fatih, but quite another to mock and ridicule. The path of your future is full of darkness, but you can still come into the light.

  • Anonymous

    ‘so just pray for them all cos time is winding up and i definitely dont want to not have my house in order worrying about someone else business’

    Well said. Amen

  • Anonymous

    I wish more non-Christians were as respectful as you are. Good.

  • Anonymous

    Good point. The only thing Long lacks is contrition. Since his ministry is very public across the airwaves, he should now express contrition and remorse across those same airwaves to all his listeners who follow him via TV regularly. If his church were not so public, then his contrition would not need to be so public.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NKO64MPOYSBGHH4SKH7ZGFBO4A Miss Sweet

    The problem comes when the people of the church choose to commit to a man (the pastor) rather God. It’s one thing to respect your pastor it’s another thing to tolerate his rebellion against God’s word.

    Gotta keep your eyes on God!

  • Anonymous

    Maybe Jakes’ “careful” approach to Long’s scandal is based on his own scandal. A few years back, one of his parishioners accused him of making homosexual advances towards him. I read the young man’s account and I found him to be very credible. Where is TD’s discernment? Can two walk together, except they be agreed?

  • Anonymous

    Yes, that would be more productive

  • Anonymous

    For the believer, ” entire trust and confidentiality” should ONLY be given to God, not man. When Christians look to man, they often lose sight of God.

  • Anonymous

    Well hello, Blasphemuss. Ready to come into the Light of the Lord? The true Lord does not need rings, just Light, so call Him Lord of the Lights, o vile one.

  • Anonymous

    The truth shall set you free. Once you are truly free, then you can quit the sinistry and go into ministry. But until then, you are bound to your sinistry

  • Anonymous

    I’m no apologist for Jakes, but he lives right here in Ft Worth, and those who know can attest to the fact that, despite his failings, he has indeed brought affordable housing to the poor. He created a housing subdivision (maybe more than one) for lower income families. And because of his presence, the area surrounding his main campus has been the center of a lot of urban renewal, some still underway. He has met with city leaders for this very purpose.

  • Anonymous

    It’s easier to judge others than to judge the man in the mirror. We have all done ‘stupid’ things and need correction. The members of Long’s church are not stupid, but just grappling with an ancient problem that churches have dealt with: the threat of schism. It’s not an easy thing to overcome, so pray for the church members and let the Lord handle the Lord’s business.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Iwillbfree/ Iwillbfree

    I said, I would never respond to your post, BUT, I must set you straight on the BLACKNESS of God.
    Let me quote: “Our [the Black God & Goddess] children [Black race] shall be shepards in the WILDERNESS [amerikkka] AND SHALL SUFFER [for turning their backs on Black God] for our FAITHLESSNESS [not believing in the Black Messiah]

    Let me continue; Psalm 62:3 reads: “How long will you [Black people] set upon a man [white man] to SHATTER [fall apart] him, like a leaning wall, a tottering [unsteady] fence? They [white folks] only plan [orchestrate] to tear him [the Black man] down from his dignity [pride]. BLACK PEOPLE ARE GOD’S CHOSEN PEOPLE! Psalm 82:6, “I have said, Ye [we] are gods [kings & queens] and all of you {Black man, wo-man and child] are children [relatives] of the most High [Black Messiah].”

    One more piece of TRUTH, my hateful christian caucasoid:

    For nearly 500 years [our forced enslavement], the illusion that Jesus [Black Messiah] was white, dominated the world only because white Europeans dominated the world. Now, with the emergence of the nationalist movements of the world’s colored majority, the historic truth is finally beginning to emerge-that Jesus [Black Messiah] was the NON-WHITE leader of a non-white nation, Rome. -THE BLACK MESSIAH by Reverend Albert B. Cleage, Jr.

    This is why the Romans HUNG him: Acts 10:39, “And we are witnesses of all things which he did both in the land of the Jews, and in Jerusalem; whom they slew and hanged on a tree.” Jews [khazars] had lived in Rome since the second century BC.

    HALLELUJAH, in the ORIGINAL Hebrew [Black Jewish] language comes from the root word HALAL [which means BLESSED]. HALAL is a primary Hebrew root word for PRAISE. The caucasoid meaning of the word is; “TO BE CLEAR, TO SHINE, TO BOAST, SHOW, TO RAVE, CELEBRATE, TO BE CLAMOROUSLY FOOLISH.”

    The word clamorously means; to act out in a loud, noisy, and confused manner; also, DEMANDING OR COMPLAINING. Sounds like you caucasoids. You people are NOISY, DEMANDING, CONFUSED AND COMPLAIN…JUST LIKE YOU, WHEN YOU HEAR THE TRUTH.

    John 3:19, “And this is the condemnation, that light [white] is come into the world, and men [Black men] LOVED DARKNESS [their skin color] rather than the light [white], because their deeds [actions against [Black people] were evil [devilish].

    AmenRa

  • Anonymous

    Come, come, now, Iwillbfree. You use the excuse of ‘setting me straight’ because you know your soul thirsts for the colorless freedom of grace and truth from the Good Master :) I hope to welcome you in the fold.

    Once again, you assume I am ‘caucasoid’ because of my style of writing and the fact that anyone who opposes your hate-filled message must be a caucasoid. And once again, I am offering to free you from the monsters you call caucasoids by simply dropping the worship of skin color. I am a proud African American male.

    Not all whites embrace the error of the European members of the kingdom of hate. Those who enslaved our people specifically committed themselves to their father, the false god of this world, in order to amass great material wealth, but became spiritually bankrupt in the process. Righteous ones among the European races called them out on this, and got silenced one way or another.

    So since you hate white people so much, why would God even bother to create them? White supremacists use similar logic when speaking vile things of our people. If you wish to see the world in shades of skin color like the kingdom of hate does, then so be it. I choose not to view it as such, for in the kingdom of heaven, there is neither Greek nor Jew. It’s what’s int he heart that counts, not what attribute is on the dying flesh. Ready to embrace a color-free salvation?

    Amen

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Iwillbfree/ Iwillbfree

    Acts 10:39 “And we are witnesses of all things which he did both in the land of the Jews, and in Jerusalem; whom they slew and hanged on a tree.”

    WE NEED TO GET AWAY FROM THESE FALSE TEACHING OF THE BLACK MESSIAH ‘DYING ON A CROSS.’ AS YOU CAN SEE, HE WAS ‘HUNG FROM A TREE.’

    WHERE DO YOU THINK TREE HANGING ORIGINATED FROM…THE WHITE ROMANS/JEWS!

    Wake up and read TRUTH for yourself!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Iwillbfree/ Iwillbfree

    MY BROTHER! I have been posting your book on BP. I read your book appox. 4 years ago and EVERYTHING you said about Eddye Wrong is RIGHT and has come to past. Crefho Hollar is next! And T.D. Snakes and the white boy Bowel Olsteen [who doesn't believe in god] will be EXPOSED like you stated in your book. You also know about Paula White and Joyce Meyers, two more devils and snakes!

    I have passed your book on to others, so they will get this TRUTH! ANYBODY can be re-ligious. You can re-ligouslyl attend church, you can re-ligously mow your yard, you can re-ligiously go shopping…you get the scene. Therefore, being RE-LIGIOUS means nothing, it’s your SPIRIT that matters. That Spirit is the god that is in YOU AND ME! That RIGHTEOUS Spirit of Black God!

    If our people would begin to treat themselves as gods; we would not be having this conversation.
    Psalm 82:6 [my favorite] I have said, Ye [are] gods; and all of you [are] children of the most High. WE are gods; and HIS children. When are we going to start acting like we ARE HIS CHILDREN, since we were BIRTHED, in the world by The Black God and Goddess of the world! If we want our childen to mind us; when will we start WORSHIPPING OUR FATHER?

    Please post where can I buy “Crooks and Homos in the Pulpit”

    Peace & Truth

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_55R6I3SLPHBX5H52IIUKH3GOPQ harolde

    the people at newbirth r SOS stuck on stupid.DO u know that the man that give u the kjv was a homo do your reseach on king james his real name james steward.he was a wicked man.thats y they have no problem with what he did .cause it all covered uder the blood. r ya’ll crazy.stop beliving in idiotic concepts .

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Iwillbfree/ Iwillbfree

    You must by the book; you cannot make assumptions until you read it! I already have read the book and passed it on to others and they have NO COMPLAINTS!

    Your biggest complainers will be these lost negroids running around here calling themselves christians, but just look who they are following!

  • Anonymous

    Looks like you search far and wide to find one little thing to twist and blow out of proportion. You’re probably one of those who also look at the Giants (Nephilim) of the Old Testament to try to confuse with skin colorism (the worship of skin color). The Gospel writers were far less concerned with trying to find an ounce of discrepancy than you. The Good Master became the curse for us all. Now since you mention ‘white romans/jews’ did you not also read where some of the jewish leaders tried to cover up history by paying off the roman soldiers who guarded the Good Master’s tomb? And they and some of their gentile cohorts have been trying to cover up history ever since.

    “The Greek and Latin words corresponding to “crucifixion” applied to many different forms of painful execution, from impaling on a stake to affixing to a tree, to an upright pole (a crux simplex) or to a combination of an upright (in Latin, stipes) and a crossbeam (in Latin, patibulum).” [en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crucifixion]

    Have you also considered the Greek word “stauros” in all of your rantings? I know, you’ll probably accuse me of being a ‘caucasoid’ for daring to question your ‘truth.’ If being in opposition to your vile words means i have to be labeled a caucasoid, then so be it. whatever label of hate you desire. But embrace the REASON the Good Master died for you: He loves you, and therefore, I love you :)

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/omega555550/ omega555550

    Isn’t that something. Most of his congregation is black. Black teens are dropping out of school at alarlming rates. the 200,000+ dollars for the cost of a bentley, would easily finance afterschool tutoring and motivation programs for a lot black kids. AND YOU MEAN HE IS BUYING ANOTHER RICH BIBLE HUSTLER A BENTLEY WITH THE PENNIES OF MANY POOR BLACKS THAT BRING HIM THEIR LITTLE MONIES? OH, HELL NAW

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Iwillbfree/ Iwillbfree

    They are TOURING the country as we speak! T.D. Snakes and Paula Hype. Re-ligion is a game just like christianity. It’s all about mind control and as we can see; these negroid’s minds are CONTROLLED by the devil [the preacha]. Most preachers don’t teach, that the ‘devil’ is walking around on two feet, has two eyes, two hands, two ears, and has no pitch fork in his/her hands, but a bible and a handkerchief!

    When I was a muslim, we were taught that caucasoids were devils; now, negroids are just as wicked and evil, like the white devils they FOLLOW, under that wicked re-ligion called christianity and islam!!!

    PEACE & TRUTH

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/I_Jus_B_Blaz_n/ I_Jus_B_Blaz_n

    finally someone who actually can tell the difference from a preacher who preach the word, and just preach out motivation! OH MY GOD, YOU PRETTY MUCH SUMMED UP EVERYTHING THERE IS TO KNOW ABOUT THESE “CHURCHES”. if people only read their bible and had a true pastor who actually preached from the bible, half of the congregation would have scattered to another church. sad to say that Americans can’t take the truth.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Iwillbfree/ Iwillbfree

    misguided = stupid

    When you ‘see’ for yourself the WRONG that was done to these young brothers; it should not be that hard to leave somebody that’s a LIAR! How long would you stay around somebody that beats you everyday?

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Music-Indust-Designs/ Music-Indust-Designs

    Jakes is trying to give everyone a CLUE, none of us can be judges, only God can do that. Thats whats wrong with our people, we judge each other as if we havent made mistakes. No one is promoting or over looking what he did, but if your not directly involved, theres alot more to focus on.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/david___king/ david___king

    We’re all glad that President Obama got Osama Bin Laden! But people still need help all over the world. Earthquakes, Tsunamis & tornadoes have devastated many places around the world including Japan, Haiti & Missouri. Libya, Syria & Yemen is in chaos & disorder with people getting killed for protesting against decades of tyranny & inhumane living conditions like the recent killing of Hamza Al-Khatib, a 13yr. Syrian boy. I don’t think Obama is Superman/ God. But, I do think he is very worldly wise, compassionate & intelligent, which for me makes him one of the right people to help lead the U.S. & the world to a better & more civil state of living. I thought about the similarities of Obama & M.L.K. I believe that by becoming President of the U.S. Obama is just as important as M.L.K. to the Black, minority community & the world. Protestors, if you want Obama’s change & America’s freedom sing ‘OBAMA FOR THE WORLD’ (the world’s theme song for Obama) in the streets. 50% of the sales will go to world disaster reliefs & the Obama 2012 campaign.

    ITunes: http://itunes.apple.com/us/album/obama-for-the-world/id382415281?uo=4
    Donations: http://www.tunecore.com/music/david-king

    YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LBrM9bZE64
    Myspace: http://www.myspace.com/david.king
    Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/danthony.king
    Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/david__king

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=582581921 Nichola Allshouse

    we all take sides on these things. i am very against what eddie did but we as GOD fearing people need to understand it isnt up to us to say what is wrong or right. If when he stands before God and Good forgives him then we have to accept it! my husbands parents grew up with Mr. Jakes, and he is doing what and christian is supposed to do……… Foregive and Forget! i dont know Mr. long, but i am not ok with his choices, but he is human. Every pastor, bishop, prst makes mistakes, but it isnt up to us as people to decide what is ok for him to do. He will pay for what he did!!!!!! BELIVE THAT!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/2Queens11434/ 2Queens11434

    I don’t know the wicked sure live prosperously… Their God takes good care of them

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Larry-Monk/1443474406 Larry Monk

    Imagine that……TD Jakes demurring to pray for Long….another Jesus pimp…..these holy criminals have no shame or fear of God…..I would never follow behind either one of these heretics….

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jam-Brown/1470215233 Jam Brown

    Where`s the criminal system in this matter…They sued and settled from money…I agree with Jakes when he said all we can do is simply pray for him..If he is guilty, Jakes or nobody knows because we were not there..Again, money was paid and money was accepted…Jesus, will judge him rightfully, just like all the rest of us….Any human who is sinless, cast the stone….

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/1SereneOne/ 1SereneOne

    This is typical in the ministry, Pastors covering up for one another. I left the church over something similar. A Pastor and President of his convention in my small Arkansas town had at least 10 illegitimate children and possibly more, and slept with almost every female member of his congregation. When the time came to step down, the new President not only covered up the infidelities, when it came time to do some accounting, hundreds of thousands of dollars were missing as well which was covered up and many excuses were given.

    The Convention even went as far as to oust anyone from the convention who didn’t care for the illegal and immoral goings on.

    It’s sad what power hungry Black men have done to the real church.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/1SereneOne/ 1SereneOne

    Google ” Regular Arkansas Baptist Convention”

    This type of thing happens often in that convention that covers Most of arkansas , and they have ruined the careers of any minister that opposes their coverup of sex scandals and donation theft.

    This is not an unusual occurrance in the Clergy.

  • http://twitter.com/BigFace5 Dannel Griffin

    It’s the BLOA(Boy Lover’s of Amerikkka club). They all indulge. If anyone thinks any of these male diva’s are men of GOD, then yall are just too stupid to learn. The Bible says for a rich man to make it into Heaven, it’s easier to crawl thru the eye of a needle. That is to say rich at heart and soul, cause it’s ok to be rich financially. Look at their lifestyle’s. Movies, jets, gator shoes, $5ooo suits, Bentley’s&Maybach’s, and a boy loving fetus! Where is GOD body? Homosexuality is an abomination unto the Earth and nature. Any preacher who tolerates or condones is going to Hell; just like Lot wife! Don’t hate the person, just the lifestyle! People can change and repent. But kill all pedophile’s…

    http://youtu.be/VUM4LfTagyE

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/kevanj/ kevanj

    They both are homo’s and both are Masons, led by Master Masons… they stick up for each other whether it’s right or wrong… WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Iwillbfree/ Iwillbfree

    That sounds like dictatorship. No deacons, no nurses board, BUT, THEY GOT THAT ‘BUILDING’ FUND!

    I am not a church ‘goer,’ but the church is CONTROLLED by the pope! Where do you think he got that money to PAY OFF those young brothers? Catholicism is the biggest ‘organization’ on the planet!!!!! And the vatican is the headquarters.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Iwillbfree/ Iwillbfree

    NON-PROFIT = NON TAXABLE ORGANIZATION = CHURCH CORPORATION

    Why do you think these organizations and corporations, called churches don’t pay taxes? They are nothing more than banks. They take in money from the people; then they take the money to a bank [not a Black one], then they deposit the money; the money is then DISTRIBUTED, so other businesses can borrow off of it; and the people, who monpolize off this BUSINESS VENTURE, are caucasoids!

    While negroids are wearing big hats, new suits, and driving new cars to church; caucasoids are laughing all the way to the bank, while poor negroes are trying to catch a ride, cab or bus home to fry some gospel bird aka CHICKEN!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Iwillbfree/ Iwillbfree

    NON-PROFIT = NON TAXABLE ORGANIZATION = CHURCH CORPORATION

    Why do you think these organizations and corporations, called churches don’t pay taxes? They are nothing more than banks. They take in money from the people; then they take the money to a bank [not a Black one], then they deposit the money; the money is then DISTRIBUTED, so other businesses can borrow off of it; and the people, who monpolize off this BUSINESS VENTURE, are caucasoids!

    While negroids are wearing big hats, new suits, and driving new cars to church; caucasoids are laughing all the way to the bank, while poor negroes are trying to catch a ride, cab or bus home to fry some gospel bird aka CHICKEN!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Sistagirl-Young/100002329860354 Sistagirl Young

    Are you seriously serious? You know these pimps are gonna protect one another. Love. Right. The love of money. I don’t get what Touch Down meant when he said “When all this is over,one thing is for sure-somebody,if not everybody in it is gonna need the blood.” Look Touch Down “everybody” needs the blood I don’t care “who” or “where” you are. Another thing once you are “covered” in the blood it doesn’t “go” away. I guess people can use their imaginations and “guess” what wasn’t plainly said. All this is that Pimp Eddie payin’ off those young men? How come he had four of ‘em? Chil’ don’t tell me he was havin’ an “or-gee” with them boys?Now I ain’t tellin’ nobody what to do but chil’ you gonna take my heart-earned money and give it to a bunch of boys you said you didn’t have nothin’to do with . Lawd today. Let me out of here ’cause see I be done wound up in prison. I’m takin’ care of a pimp now I gotta take care of his pimpetts. Umm, umm, umm. Chil’ let me outta here. I ain’t gonna be in here when God destroys Sodom and Gomorrah. And folk better wake up. Let them pimps “prey” on one another.Somebody give me my cane.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Real-Rap/100002402740375 Real Rap

    love ya td jakes but u should hold that comment down

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2VX3IAOA5WUNH5ON3TXPC6FSHE lisa

    IT’S AN UPGRADE GENERATION, GO HARD OR NOT AT ALL……WE ARE REAPING WHAT WE SOW….HUMAN BEING WITHOUT MORALS. DO WHAT YOU GOT TO DO TO GET WHAT YOU WANT….SMH…..AND IF YOUR GETTING PAYED THAT’S EVEN BETTER….I REFUSE TO ACCEPT MY FAKE FOURTH ACRES AND A MULE. I JUDGE NOONE BUT I BELIEVE IN WAR WHEN IT’S NEEDED. IF I NEVER DID WHAT THE PRESS STATED, THEN IT WOULD HAVE BEEN ALL OUT WAR IN COURT…….I WOULD REFUSE TO SIT DOWN OR BACK AWAY WITHOUT A FIGHT, EVEN IF I LOST EVERYTHING……..THAT’S A TRUE SOLDIER!………STANDING UP EVEN WHEN IT’S HARD……GOD BLESS THE YOUNG MEN THAT HAD TO ENDURE THIS MADDNESS INCLUDING EDDIE LONG FAMILY.

  • Anonymous

    Soooo the priest are =not the only ones- claiming God $ Shaming all,

  • Anonymous

    All Mason?? & Hermann Kain is the new Mslk

  • dana butler

    What about these young men.Everyone speaks out for Bishop,but none for the alleged accusers or victims.Clearly someone here is sick,to accuse and the allegations are false.To molest members of your congregation and claim innocence.I am really disgusted by the settlement .Millions of dollars and you are being accused of horrible things. Members of his church have to come to a conclusion ,how do you know he is sorry,if he never admitted it.How do you know he sought help? I simply could not take the chance this could happen to my child.I would not want to be part of a church that has a maybe or maybe not predator overseeing it.I would definitely pray for him,but run in the other direction.I belong to the body of Christ,leaving a church wont cut me off from god.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/KingJye/ KingJye

    TD Jakes is right. Why would a church get involved in the matters of another church? Churches are run like businesses having a board and some form of a governing body that handles ‘stuff’ It’s like if Microsoft had a scandal what right would Apple employees have to dictate the courses of action Microsoft should take.
    With that said if the churches are all linked, then Jakes got some explaining to do…lol. I’m no fan or creflo dollar or eddie long and their non-Biblical prosperity messages and it looks like what’s done in the dark has come to the light.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/KingJye/ KingJye

    Amen!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/KingJye/ KingJye

    Definitely misguided….people need to read and STUDY the Bible for themselves, so they won’t be deceived.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_RKPVUXJ5UWRWGZWOH4QTAKIAWI Michael

    The Body of Christ must eventually forgive Eddie Long, but this isn’t about “FORGIVENESS”, this is a matter of “CREDIBILITY!” The moment Eddie Long fondled the scrotum of the 1st young male, he discredited himself as a Spiritual Leader. In my humble opinion, Eddie Long’s Out of Court Settlement constitutes a plea of “GUILTY!” I am not Eddie Long’s judge or Jury, and I thank God that I’m not a member of his congregation. If you are so inclined, all you can do is “PRAY” for Eddie Long, because none of us qualify to throw the first stone at him. So sincere, Michael Sydney Perkins

  • Anonymous

    Why is it SO difficult for “christians” to follow the TRUE teaching and practice of Christ? HE lived poorly while reaching out to the poor. Bishops Jakes, Long, Dollar, and others are living rich off the money of the poor! Of course, they throw out one or two scriptures trying to justfy a devine Blessing for their riches, however, they refuse to cite the MANY scriptures and examples that cite Jesus’ admonishment of the rich and those desiring wealth. How many of these preachers are willing to give up ALL they have and REALLY follow Christ? Answer: NONE!!! Bishop T.D. Jakes defense of Bishop Long should not be a suprise to anyone. These mega-preachers live on a different plane then most people. They have mega-money and people who worship them. Whether gay, straight, or bisexual, there are ALWAYS willing victims who will do anything for them and they(All mega-preachers)KNOW that. In “their” world, they are aware of the “game” and the behaviors(good or bad) that come with it. These mega-preachers CANNOT condem Bishop Long without risk of their “dirt” becoming public.

  • Carrie Lindsey

    pray for the church members, you need to judge sin, lest you be judge. The church need to take action and put him out!!! This man is a homosexual and he preys on young men, he needs to be on the sexual predator’s list , pray? action need to be taken children lives at at risk, what part of this situation do you not understand? One thing I do admire about white people, once a situation has been discovered they take immediate action to protect their children. Black people will stay in situations and alow stuff to continue to happen knowing the urgenceny and the threat to young children, shame on the congregation at New Birth, get that dog out of there!!!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/lorna101/ lorna101

    T.D Jakes taking up for Eddie Long because birds of a feather flock together. T.D Jakes wants the same sympathy when the covers are pulled off of him.

  • Ghetto Saint

    You know them ‘DL’ niggaz got each others back!!!!!!!

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