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Sarah Palin has a new book. In the book she ignores to mention the fact that for a good deal of her political career, she was a member of  or closely affiliated with a radical secessionist Alaskan political party known as the AKIP. In this picture, Palin is holding a brochure with the title Con-Con Call.  This is short for the Constituitional Convention, an AKIP event. I believe the man in the picture is Joe Vogler, the founder of the AKIP. According to the New York Times, Vogler was killed in a plastic explosives deal gone wrong. Why did he want plastic explosives?

Here are a few quotes from the founder of the party, Joe Vogler:

‘The fires of hell are frozen glaciers (or cool breezes, per the Chairman of the Party, Lynette Clark) compared to my hatred for the American government.’

‘I’m an Alaskan first. Not an American. I have no use for America and her damned institutions.’

Palin tried to cover up her association with AKIP, even proposing to lie about her husband’s membership in the group to McCain advisers. Still Palin’s connections to the group are deeper than just being the wife of a member. For years members of the group considered her a member.

Here’s Video Evidence that Palin Was Sympthetic to if not a Member of AKIP

Former head of the AKIP, Mark Chryson, who seems to be a genuine right wing lunatic, had kind words to say about Palin ‘I have known her for over 15 years, been in her house and have had numerous conversations with her, in person, on the phone both for personal issues as well as political issues.’

Last year, I interviewed the head of the AKIP about Palin’s involvement. They seemed very uneasy and said they had received death threats and threatening letters regarding the situation. When I asked if Sarah Palin was a member, they said they thought she was until someone told them she wasn’t. When I asked who told them she wasn’t a member, they said they couldn’t reveal their source. When I asked if Sarah Palin was ever ‘sympathetic’ to their cause, they said, ‘no comment’.

They clearly seemed too afraid to speak and seemed, clearly, to be hiding something. If she was not member of the AKIP, she was definitely pallin’ around with them.

Below is a transcript from my interview with the Chairman of the AKIP, Lynette Clark(LC)
CG: Why did you change the website?

LC: I am telling you that as chairman of this party, when this all blew, and I realized that it was incorrect information, I submitted a press release. I made the changes to the site.

CG: Did she attend the convention? Did Sarah Palin attend any conventions?

LC: She was (sigh) — you guys muckrake all over the place.

CG: I’m just curious. I’m investigating…

Anon: She attended the 2006 Convention which was held in Wassilla, and it was a state-wide convention which is a bi-annual function.

CG: Okay.

LC: She took up the invitation that was given to all gubernatorial candidates which we have done for many years to have them come and speak to our memberships. It’s so we can have an idea of who these candidates are and what they stand for.

CG: In 2008, she had a video address. Correct?

LC: In 2008 she sent the convention — which was held here in Fairbanks, and you cannot attribute Dexter’s comment to that convention because that’s not when she was there…

CG: Have you had any contact with Sarah Palin or John McCain?

LC: I’ve had no contact from the McCain camp……. I apologized too for my misspeaking and I’ve been getting slammed with everything, including death threats.

CG: That’s horrible.

LC: That is bad. And since our first chairman was kidnapped and murdered, I don’t take threats lightly.

CG: No I know. I heard about the Joseph Vogler thing and it’s another thing I’d like to ask about. NY Times did say he was killed in a plastic explosives deal gone bad. I know NY Times.

LC: NY Times don’t know what the hell they’re talking about.

CG: Okay, that’s why I’m contacting you guys.

LC: He was shot in the back of the head with a bullet lodged in the left side of his jaw.

CG: Could you give me some background on that?

LC: Ask the Alaska state troopers about that.

CG: So what was the motivation for you taking it off? Just because of …you didn’t like seeing Sarah Palin being slandered?

LC: The motivation of taking what off? All I did was add to that page, and what I added to that page was factual. What’s factual is “Welcome to the home of the Alaskan Independence Party. Update September 3rd, 2008.” And it has been brought to our attention that there is a counterfeit site.

CG: In terms of your philosophy…I’d like to run some quotes by you. Vogler? Is that correct? I believe he said something to the effect of “the fires of hell are glaciers of ice compared to my hatred of the U.S.”

LC: That is an absolutely incorrect quote from Mr. Vogler.

CG: So why is it on your website?

LC: “The fires of hell would be COOL BREEZES…”

CG: Cool breezes, I’m sorry.

LC: Cool breezes — it was a video — cool breezes compared to what the founding fathers tried to build of this country. Listen to it a little closer. And that hatred for the American government is about fascism.

CG: And this is a quote I have from your website, it says: “I am an Alaskan first, not an American. I have no use for America or her damned institutions.”

LC: Yup. Yup. That’s true. Because those institutions are corporate partnerships that the government — and that is the finite definition of fascism.

CG: So Dexter believed he heard from friends that she was a member?

LC: Both of us did. Over a year ago.

CG: You heard it as well that she used to be a member?

LC: Both of us over a year ago were told.

CG: Were told that she was a member…

LC: By an individual that we knew and trusted.

CG: When did you find out that she wasn’t a member?

LC: I am not involved in that because there’s enough sewer laying around that.

CG: So no one can divulge who told she wasn’t a member?

LC: I know who it was. I’m not going to divulge it myself.

CG: But you could say who DID say she was a member. Can I talk to that person?

LC: No I’m not going to tell you who said that.

CG: But Todd Palin was a member from 1995-2002?

Anon: That’s what was on T.V. That’s what the Division of Elections says.

CG: Right.

LC: Because that’s where we get our information.

CG: So they say that Todd Palin was a member but Sarah Palin…

LC: Was not.

LC: Because she didn’t vote but did you feel like she was sympathetic to any of your views?

LC: I’m not going to comment on that.

CG: Why not?

LC: Because it turns into a bunch of garbage again.

CG: Okay. I’m just curious. I’m trying to get objective things. I actually don’t have any problem with you guys wanting to secede from the Union.

LC: We don’t wanna secede from the Union. What we want is what we were entitled to and that is a plebiscite, which is an archaic word for a vote. As Alaska came into the Union we were classified by the United Nations as a non-self-governing territory. And within that classification, there was a criterion of the United Nations that said that once these territories — and this was at attempt to end colonialism throughout the world and not just the United States but other major countries like France, Britain etc. who had colonies –but when those territories had reached a level within the criteria of self-government, we were required to be given a ballot that didn’t just say statehood up or down. It said that we were supposed to have four choices and that’s on the website.

CG: I’ve researched you guys and I don’t think you’re a bad organization.

LC: It’s our own political destiny that we should as Americans, period, have a right to. I’m trying to end the conversation, only because I have some place to go to.

CG:. I just want to know who told you she wasn’t a member.

LC: I’m not going to tell you that.

CG: You’re not going to tell me? Why not?

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  • http://www.blackplanet.com/catgrell/ catgrell

    Right on target Casey! After the New York Time’s Saturday front-page story and the Hannity report on Fox (ew), this is exactly the kind of stuff that I was hoping to read on newsone today!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/connecticutman1/ connecticutman1

    I am worried about the fact that Chryson seems to have nazi links or ties (look at the his personal website – conspiracies, waco memorials, nazi and confederate stuff) than just the fact that he is a secessionist. He is a straight up freak show.

    Thanks for the link and I linked back to this because of the interview you did. Great job!

    side note: Took forever to fill out the forms to comment here. :) And I blogrolled the place. Seems like you all are doing good things here.

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  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Da_J_Rok/ Da_J_Rok

    I still dont understand what her politics are??? I mean what is her purpose, this has been the most insanely popular person for no reason what so ever. I remain baffled on why she gets so much pub

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  • http://www.blackplanet.com/lakerdude19/ lakerdude19

    Well it seems from the interview that she was not a member. But, Casey, if you and your liberal agenda are just starving for any form of mud to throw at the republican party, you will find it!

    If you want to be honest in your dealings, why didn’t you report on the obviously anti-american Van Jones? Oh, wait, its because he’s a black liberal.

  • Casey Gane-McCalla

    keep on listening to Glenn Beck. Was Van Jones or his wife ever a member of a party that wanted to leave the US and proclaimed their hatred for America and it’s damned institutions

    You can draw what you want from the interview but they thought she was a member for years her husband was a member and the leadership refused to say who said that she was a member or how they learned she wasn’t….maybe because of the death threats

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/lakerdude19/ lakerdude19

    No but Van Jones was a member of the New Black Panthers and he even signed a petition stating that the US government was behind the 9/11 attacks. That screams anti-american, Casey. And it lends a lot more evidence than a spouses membership in some group and alleged “death threats.”

    But you don’t care, do you? To you its all about getting a pro-black, white-marginalizing, republican bashing story out.

    And I don’t listen to Glenn Beck. That was a poor shot in the dark :)

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/GTPRINCESS25/ GTPRINCESS25

    lol this is so funny…say they had won the election and this crap came about boy oh boy…tryin everything to detur obama when ur the same one in all kinds of mix up…ppl this woman is a deal gone bad. no place for her in politics plz see to that.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Dopegurlmagic17/ Dopegurlmagic17

    it is one thing to be anti-american and be a regular person but when you are a potienal vice president that is a problem

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Sub-Negro/ Sub-Negro

    @Da_J_Rok I agree I mean I do wonder why she get’s pub on here when 95% of the users on here hate her already and it’s not like they ever going to like her. But regardless i’d still give her the bizness she is a rare hot middle aged white lady.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/cwm299/ cwm299

    Wow, an interview with a half crazed old fart that probably has trouble remembering to unzip before he pisses.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Angilix/ Angilix

    I can’t trust any article on this site. That’s not a picture of Joe Vogler on her desk. Newsone for black America indeed. What it does is make us look stupid.

    In a picture supplied by Sarah Palin’s family to the Associated Press, Palin appears with some rather odd reading matter: The magazine of the ultraconservative John Birch Society.

    The picture, dating to 1995, when Palin was a member of the Wasilla City Council, ran beside a profile of Palin in Saturday’s New York Times. The magazine, The New American, is sitting on top of her calendar on her desk, unopened.

    The current, and then-, president of the group, John McManus, confirmed that the cover fit the description of a 1995 issue of the magazine. The headline, “Con-Con Call,” refers to discussion at the time of a constitutional convention. The headline appears above a picture of then-Utah Governor Mike Leavitt, who had floated the notion as a way of returning the balance of power back toward the states.

    http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0908/Whats_on_the_desk.html

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Angilix/ Angilix

    Sarah Palin was a member of the AIP in everything but name. If you believe otherwise I got a horse I’d like to sell you.

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