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I watched an ABC News special the other night featuring Steve Harvey, Jacque Reed, Sherri Shepherd and my homeboys Hill Harper and Jimi Izrael. The show covered a tried and true topic that is sure to get sky rocket ratings from the black community:  The topic was, Why successful black women can’t find a good man.   I am not going to risk bringing on the wrath of black women by saying things that some of them may not want to hear, but I have to be honest about what I saw.  Let me just cut to the chase and lay the issues out one-by-one:

1)  Why are black women taking relationship advice from Steve Harvey? Not to disrespect Steve’s ability to drop knowledge, but isn’t he a comedian?  If we are taking relationship advice from a comedian and our relationship turns into a joke, who do we blame in the end?  Bottom line – perhaps learning how to love another person means that after you put aside the book by the comedian, you should go out and buy a book by a relationship expert.

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2) Most good women have little trouble getting married to decent men:  One has to be skeptical of the beautiful, intelligent, fully capable woman who simply says that she can’t find a good man anywhere.  Most women I know who are well-balanced and who also appreciate the idea of respecting men in the same way they would like to be respected have no trouble finding suitable mates.  Sorry to break this to you, but the only constant variable in your relationships is a person called YOU.   Rather than pointing the finger at the world, a bit more introspection might be called for:  perhaps you have to reconsider your laundry list of expectations or wonder if you’re not doing a good job finding men who are open to commitment (it’s easy to find a man, just not easy to find a man who is willing to be with you and you only- maybe different types of men should not be held to the same standards).  You may be fishing in the wrong ponds in the first place or using the wrong bait to catch the fish you’re bringing home.

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3) If you want something bad enough, take a class: There are classes on relationships and marriage out there that don’t cost much money.  If you are determined to be the best mate you can possibly be, it might make sense to take a class (not just the counseling you get from your pastor) that explains all the subtleties and challenges of being married.  A relationship is not about a mate filling your long and detailed list of needs and expectations.  The bottom line is that if you hope to receive more, you must first fully commit yourself to giving more.  Some of us are taught that we should expect the world and not offer anything in return:  that’s a perfect recipe for getting dumped.

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4) Big mistake – always chasing the alpha male: I know a lot of “regular guys” who are unable to find a woman that is interested in being with them.  This is especially true in their mid-twenties, when everyone is single and living fancy-free, with little expectation for long-term commitment.  Some of the women these  ”regular guys” are interested in are not paying them much attention, mainly because the woman has become enchanted with the dream-like alpha male:  the guy who fits every single portion of the checklist (height, income, education, toe nail length, swag, etc.), but who may not be available for a monogamous, long-term relationship.  What many women seem to forget is that there are some men who always have room for another woman on the roster.  If you’re wasting all your time with the lying, cheating, super dog, you might miss out on the chance to be with the man who will love you forever and father all of your children.  He may not come in the same package, and by comparing the two without considering the differences in what each of them offers, you may be passing up on your opportunity.

5) Relationships should not be a pissing contest: One of the by-products of many black children growing up in single parent homes is that their relationships become highly contentious.  I once saw a neck swinging, energized woman say, “I need a man who can handle me!”  What I wanted to tell her is that your man should not have to “handle” you as if you are a wild bull with his testicles sewn together.  The act of love is a process of being open, feeling and sharing, not trying to dominate one another.  So, if you need to be “handled” in your relationships, realize that you are likely going to only attract men who are mean, rough and insensitive enough to handle you effectively.  Fighting and domination is not the same as love – let’s not get it twisted.

6) There’s nothing wrong with a few gender roles: Sherri Shepherd, during an especially volatile segment of the ABC News show, swung her hands around in the air saying, “I don’t have time to validate you every day!” – referring to the fact that she doesn’t feel that it’s her job to make her man feel good about himself on a regular basis.  What’s interesting is that most women want their man to make them feel beautiful and to feel like a woman.  So, why is it not acceptable for a man to expect his wife to make him feel like a man?   A man doesn’t want to marry another guy – or rather, a woman who feels that any and all gender roles are an insult to her feminine independence, who expects the man to be willing to be regularly emasculated.   It’s O.K. to make your man feel like he’s THE man, a king and a leader.  A good man will surely return the favor and make you feel like a beautiful woman.

7) Let’s be real- many men aren’t as excited about marriage as women: As much as we want to believe that men grow up fantasizing about their wedding day the same way that many women do, the truth is that this is not the case.  Many men see marriage as a frightening commitment that will cause them to be vilified for actions they can engage in without consequence when they are single (notice the millions of dollars that Shaquille O’neal and the rapper Nas have paid to get out of their marriages – every man gets petrified when he reads these stories).  A woman who gets her husband is the one who makes the man WANT to be married: she let’s him feel free, strong, needed, loved and supported.   While this may seem to be a primitive concept, the reality is that the reverse is true for sex:  Men and women both want it, but men know they have to work just a little bit harder to “get some.”  They’ve got to buy flowers, take the woman to dinner, and make her feel comfortable.  It would be silly for a man to think that a woman should buy him flowers and beg him to have sex with her.  The converse is true for marriage – where getting a man to overcome his anxiety is a great way to get him to give you what you want.

I love black women:  My mother, daughter and grandmother are black women and there is not a more precious group of women on the planet.  But the truth is that this “woe is me, black men ain’t sh*t” attitude has to be replaced with something more constructive.  If not, we’ll be having these same forums 20 years from today.  I had a conversation on black women and relationships with Lola Adesioye from the Huffington Post.  Click here if you’d like to listen.

Dr. Boyce Watkins is the founder of the Your Black World Coalition and the author of the book, “Black American Money.” To have Dr. Boyce commentary delivered to your email, please click here.

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  • http://www.blackplanet.com/doing_me74/ doing_me74

    I agree with all except number 7 I wouldn’t get married becuase I can challenged social norms of that becuase of studying the history of marriage in western civilization I believe that Christianity corrupt marriage in my opinion.Marriage aint use to be all the stuff it is in these modern times.The ancients to me had it better then we did its obvious it was going to go down the drain every since feminism intrude the whole ideal too.Because the laws are all about the women unless a dude sign a prenup to protect his hard work in-case the love doesn’t work at least he tryedthe marriage thing witch is corrupt in this country anyway.And I believe women corrupt marriage to with their impossible ideals of romance etc.Because really marriage is a women thing becuase a female got to talk a dude into that stuff becuase most men in general wouldn’t get married if they dont want to becuase of the legal repercussion involves that I believe corrupt marriage too.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/quiet_storm41/ quiet_storm41

    I disagree with #1. I think anyone who’s lived life can give some good advice on relationships.

    #4 I don’t fully agree with that. I say to women, have your standards. Make your list as long as you want it to be. Just be aware of the fact that every requirement you add to that list knocks off a group of guys. And when you can’t find that guy that meets everything, don’t come complaining, because that’s the situation you created.

    #5 I preach that every day. We’re together. This isn’t a competition

    #6 is the main reason I think relationships struggle now. Gender roles are blurred. Instead of creating roles within each relationship, some people are trying to hold on to old roles and other are trying to let go of them and that creates problems

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/nodoubt10/ nodoubt10

    #4 is something I see all the time…it’s so true it’s funny…

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Jack_Stephen1/ Jack_Stephen1

    the dr. pinned the tail on the donkey’s a55! men are advising women the same over and over but it’s falling on deaf ears.

    …your man should not have to “handle” you as if you are a wild bull…
    too funny! i say the same whenever i hear this.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/jayevans20/ jayevans20

    Great article, Dr. Boyce. I think that is a huge problem that black woman would even think about Steve Harvey when it comes to advice. What ever happen to having Christian values? I know most black folk know the scripture Be patient and wait on the Lord. Also, stop focusing on Black guys. As a single Black Man; if a hot Hispanic chick come at me the right way I won’t turn her away. Nor should black woman turn away a guy of another race. Steve Harvey is the last person I would want advice from. I will get on my knees and pray before asking another human being for advice. One more thing; Black woman should look in the mirror and ask themselves why they are single before asking some one else. I’m single because I choose to be but I haven’t found any one that I would like to enter a relationship with. But that’s just me!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Jack_Stephen1/ Jack_Stephen1

    they better wise up or end up old, at home staring at 4 walls wit wet draws!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Khalif2000/ Khalif2000

    Thugs have eroded the standards to broke, bummy and always complaining about racism. I have yet to see a sister with a brother who dresses like me – at any age. I see grown a s s men running around in football jerseys working a dead end job.
    Black folks, THIS IS EMBARRASSING. We have a black President now, but he won’t be in office forever. I doubt the knuckleheads following behind Lil Wayne or TI or any of the other locked up “rappers” will be going towards public service unless you mean being on a City Clean up Crew.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/40hours/ 40hours

    women and men need to stop the ” what about me” thing in relationships. it should be about ” what about us” thing. it may seem like a little thing. But it means so much. If we are looked at as a mate, and equal then we both have a stake in our life toghter. One person can’t be a giver and the other a taker. One can’t be a worker and the other lazy. You must work for some goal that has longterm commitment for your relationship. one of the best things is dont try and change the person into something their not. You dont raise your mate as you would your child. A real man or women dont need another mother or father. Love is not suppose to be a selfish thing. If it true then it the only time in your life when you think of someone as greater than yourself.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/BrotherJohnOfDallas/ BrotherJohnOfDallas

    Interesting points in the article. I don’t know that you necessarily have to be a relationship expert to give advice on relationships, though, and I think Steve Harvey has done a decent job dishing out advice to women. I do have to say that some women have taken some of Harvey’s advice to an extreme, and those may need relationship classes. For instance, one woman told me that Harvey advised her not to talk about past relationships for fear of scaring off a guy. But the problem in her case is that she was separated, not divorced. That’s something you have to put out up front as some brothers like me don’t want to got here until a divorce is final. If you hide something like that until weeks or months into a relationship, the guy will not be happy at all.

    Finally, some guys are right to be fearful of marriage in today’s legalistic, secular society. Man’s ideas of marriage and divorce are far different than God’s ideas. The Bible says only adultery is acceptable as a grounds for divorce, and God only granted that because the Israelites were hard headed. With man, you can get divorced for any reason you come up with, and then if one spouse is less financially stable than the other, then the more successful one has to pay! Many men have been financially ruined in this case. So tread carefully when it comes to love and relationships, and before getting to the point of being serious (one-on-one exclusive), know who your partner is and ask questions.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/willylandis/ willylandis

    absolutely true

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/raven_dawn/ raven_dawn

    More than likely we WILL have this kind of forum 20 years from now if we continue with the current conventional mindset. ‘Specially if we follow everything our “flat screen GOD” tells/ shows us. Just saying…

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/MsFireBall/ MsFireBall

    WOW!!! I REALLY ENJOY READING THIS ARTICLE…SOMETIME AS WOMEN WE HAVE TO STEP BACK AND LISTEN…IM REALLY TAKING ALL OF THIS IN, AND SEE SOME OF MY MISTAKES..I WOULDN’T SAY BLACK MEN ISN’T SH*T, BECAUSE I’M RAISING 3BOYS TO MEN… 18, 16, & 12 AND I DON’T WANT WOMEN TO SAY THAT ABOUT MY SONS…. ALL I CAN SAY IS WOW WOW!!! I CAN SAY MORE BUT, NOT NOW!!! THANKS DR. BOYCE!!!!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/MsFireBall/ MsFireBall

    IS THERE ANY WAY I CAN TALK TO DR BOYCE? I REALLY NEED TO TALK TO YOU..

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Lucky_Jester777/ Lucky_Jester777

    VERY NICE ARTICLE…not the best ive seen here for *N.O/U.D/H.B* (no offense but it seems like some of the other writers are writing only to manipulate a certain response from their readers… almost like we are fulfilling their high on literature.
    I could add my disagreement but most of the comment already touched those points.
    I see alot of people that get married to 180s! Thinking that they have to change their habits, when its the very thing you probably fell in love with… Men DO look into the future and to see or think about things like this

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Kambulu1/ Kambulu1

    Raboni, Matadi Pierre. Kambulu Unruh of Dallas
    April 22, 2010 13:37
    I thank Dr. B. Wantkins for first being a scholar in relationships, as well as male female psychy. We in the West tend to survive on the old saying “if uyou want to keep the facts from Afrikan peoples put it in a book.” Today the problem is that anyone can capitalize off of writing and and every type of ignorance deemed visionably possible.
    yes with respect to Mr. Harvey he is a comedian first not a Phd. of relational issues. I i was raised it take s on to know one, meaning that if your house is broken or lacking I personally will not fallow the example you lay in front of me. When we go to the Church, were not there to worship the man on the stand, but there to hear the unadulterated word of God!!!
    Dr. B. Watkins made the issues so short and sweet that if it where up to me I would offer her a Nobel Peace Prize for here work towards re generation of male and female inter-relational development develpment. There are so many factors to this that it almost is a life long journey. I have two major points and thanI will take my seat.
    I hear so much what men are or are not! Is it not amazing that when women state that black men are this and that! well it is an image of self reflection as thy the women are the ones raising the young men they speak about! If you watch ” Diary of A Tired Black Man ” it is heart wrenching and nerve wrecking that the woman feel no connection to the fact that as a single mother you unfortunately are the one responsible for the raising and development of a child, and it shoulod be more about the child and interest best at hand especially for the young boy rather than weekly child support payment!! Again chattel modern day enslavement methods advanced to tear down Afrikan family structures! This is not to defend the dead beat dads out there.
    Secondly, to know thyself one must know ones past. im America or Mexico, and other states that have lived under the rule or use of the gun and other violent methods, we cannot be surprised that the stain becomes parts of the forfathers sins that will continually reapet it’s self in that society. Til this day i have not heard one Dr. explain the effect the breeding has carried out on us the Afrikan diasper in 2010. If a human is used to reproduce on a daily basis will the physical characteristics and definately the mental pshchy no be stimulated to percieve that sex is almost a sport like conquest, and on the plantation there was no love involved in animalistic breeding. Families where shipped and dispersed all over the country. How than can we be so foolish to not know this affect is genetically passed on through generations inbreed through seed after seed. It is similar to the alchoholic, or the crack head, and yes as we just experienced sex addiction. We have to be real individually than as a community. This is not to be the solution that we use for our loose sexual behaviors, but yes! if a dog can be trained to not perform or act in certain behavior, how can man the highest one on the food chain not curb ones self distructive behaviors!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/MiSz_PiNk_DiamOnd/ MiSz_PiNk_DiamOnd

    Im really getting tired of this bullshlt. There are perfectly good black women with black men, where do they get this ridiculous notion that we need help?! Please hit me with some REAL information??!!?! Oh my gosh I have never read more ignorance than HERE on the very same website supposed to encourage and uplift us, acting as a double agent doing nothing more than demean and belittle black women FAR more than a white person ever could *spits on this author*

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/MiSz_PiNk_DiamOnd/ MiSz_PiNk_DiamOnd

    Its funny that all these articles about Black Women not being able to find a good black man has yet to be written by an actual Black WOMAN smh.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/CaliFemme23/ CaliFemme23

    Ok Dr. Boyce Quackens is a bootlickin’ clusterfukk for the most part, But I do have to come in on response of the ‘Handle Me’ comment…

    When women say “I want a man who can handle me”, that doesnt equivocate to a ‘raging bull’ or some out of control banshee. Men take that out of context all the time. That phrase doesnt say “I have an attitude so we have to go fist to cuffs first”, It just means I am a strong woman, intelligent, ambitious, organized and secure so I want you to be right there with me. Face it folks, A LOT of men and women have funky attitude confused with confidence. Fine line that is often times crossed but men shouldnt be so ‘touchy’ when they hear that ‘handle me’ thing from a woman.
    Granted in today’s society women do have the roles completely f’ed up and cringe at words like submissive and role. So I say unto you black men, stick around in the homes of these young women, set the STANDARD for your daughters to witness and behold when dealing with mom and that might be a good step in changing the ‘game’…

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/CaliFemme23/ CaliFemme23

    PINK,
    Youre right. These articles are either written by quacks OR black women who arent GOOD ones anyway…

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/BlackCoffee85/ BlackCoffee85

    I wish someone would re-invent the wheel on this discussion. I do agree that some of the things need to be worked on but I find that they are universal with women as well as with men. I understand why women are always the center of these articles because they ultimately pick the man, but it gets a little old. Dr. Boyce mentions men that supposedly cannot find a good woman…do we ever examine these men’s flaws?

    Why is there not an article title Why Can’t Black Men Find Good Women? since they also seem to be struggling…

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/MiSz_PiNk_DiamOnd/ MiSz_PiNk_DiamOnd

    Abiola wasnt a woman..she was just playing dress up LOL

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Jack_Stephen1/ Jack_Stephen1

    blackcoffee85
    when have you ever heard of a blk man complaining about not being able to find a good woman? never! blk men might say i haven’t found the right one if asked and will pass on the right one because we’re not ready but that’s it. re-read the article…we’re not in a hurry!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/BlackCoffee85/ BlackCoffee85

    @Jack_Stephen1

    I have heard it or I would not be adressing the issue. Finding a good woman for a man does not necessarily mean that he has to get married to her, but finding someone who he clicks with and does things with in general. I read the entire article and I think you took what I said out of context. What I am trying to say is that is not a men vs. women issue like people put it out there to be. It is a dual issue that both sexes need to solve together because I could argue that some men have these same issues when it comes to women but really that defeats the purpose and leaves us in the same place.

    Its time to advance.

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  • http://www.blackplanet.com/PRINCE_DEJOUR/ PRINCE_DEJOUR

    This should be an interesting blog. Steve Harvey made some interesting points. Life experience is always helpful when dealing with difficult situations.

    I don’t understand why people on here get upset and then start attacking other individuals.

    So what is a good man or woman? What qualities should they posses? Can this be tested to see if it is accurate. So many people have been proving to be wrong.

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    [...] I watched an ABC News special the other night featuring Steve Harvey, Jacque Reed, Sherri Shepherd and my homeboys Hill Harper and Jimi Izrael. The show covered a tried and true topic that is sure to get sky rocket ratings from the black community: The topic was, Why successful black women can’t find a good man. I am not going to risk bringing on the wrath of black women by saying things that some of them may not want to hear, but I have to be honest about what I saw. Let me just cut to the chase and lay the issues out one-by-one: Read The Rest Of This Story [...]

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Epittman1/ Epittman1

    Successful black women can’t find good black men, because they are snobs, with their bar too high. A blue collar brother who gets his hands dirty, and is not a frat brother, is erased from their list of prospects. Black women measure their success by the false yardstick of white values! BLACK WOMEN SHOULD STOP CRYING THE BLUES,; Ghetto women have these good black men sewed up!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/CaliFemme23/ CaliFemme23

    Epittman, “Black women measure their success by the false yardstick of white values!”..

    Good point…

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/lifeizgoood/ lifeizgoood

    NOOOOOOOOOOO!!! NOT ANOTHER ONE!! not reading… moving on…

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/lovelyladynmiss/ lovelyladynmiss

    Ok, some black women dont wanna try a white man. They are very comfortable with who they are and the possible wait it may take to find the right black man. You dont have to be racist to love your own and you also dont have to settle because the world knows whats best for you. Now, I know everybody has their own opinion about relationships and that is only fair but my opiniion is that people are too into sex to understand love. Sex is advertised now more than candy and cookies. TV shows you all you need to see so nothings a secret anymore. You dont value somethig if everyone else has access to it mentally or physically. Today’s time messages sends to people “sex everybody if you can, hell sex your man, someone else man or woman, sex your kind, sex you, the neighbor, family, sex animals, whatever”, or just buy a tape and its ridiculous. That frame of mind destroys the need to commit or even the know “how to commit”. Dont make excuses for people by saying this is whats wrong and that is whats wrong with you..Instead teach people what sex really means and then what love really means if anybody will listen…Im old fashioned and single. I still believe in there being someone out there for me and Im not settling and I dont mind sitting on it and waiting lol!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/MiSz_PiNk_DiamOnd/ MiSz_PiNk_DiamOnd

    I see what youre doing here bp…Throwing black women into the arms of white men….BUAHAHA It’ll never work…Pink p***s is gross..

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/mensa517/ mensa517

    Preach DR. BOYCE—–PREACH!!!!! It’s just one big lie being told to the Black woman and they tend to believe it…..All of the good Dr’s points are ON POINT and true to the nature of the beast—–Heck: I can’t find a good Black woman because I don’t meet their fairy tale standards—–and yes: I am college educated, own my home, a car and motorcycle and have a nice little bank account buuuuuttttt, I’m not 6 feet tall, dark and don’t have muscles bulging out the whazooo and suspect I am not GOODLOOKING enough :-)

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/LJSPACEMAN/ LJSPACEMAN

    The good men including myself are out there.It’s just most of the time woman want the bad boy , jail dude or drug guy that’s not going anywhere in his life.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/jazzwatch/ jazzwatch

    Let’s see.. I’m 45, not married, no kids, no drink, smoke, drugs, don’t wear my pants on my butt, college educated (degree in Graphics), working, but pursuing a cartoon career, no kids (not enough nookie), I love to cook clean, do repairs (I can fix autos to watches), sure I’m no Denzil, but I’m not a BUTTAFACE either; wooking to nub (looking for love), and want that special HOTTIE, but gets rejected for not being goood enough, or got the movie star looks or make the moolah. Want a HOTTIE sista for dating to marriage and have a family soon(prefer a woman who wants children), but cannot ewait forever….

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/bigleedog/ bigleedog

    Dr. Watkins ..Steve Harvey is in a successful relationship. Are you?
    MANY “Relationship Experts” are single and have failed many times.
    Steve Harvey reminds me of my dad. My dad was married 47 years to my mom.
    From my childhood till the day my mother died my dad was romantic and strong.
    I think we can learn a few things from men like my dad and Steve.

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  • http://www.blackplanet.com/d6j8/ d6j8

    Parents have Sons and Daughters growing up in the Mass Hysteria we are creating for us and them right now . This type of irresponsible talk about not finding a Black Man needs to stop and very soon .

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Father_LO/ Father_LO

    I’m no expert, but I know that if you don’t like the results you are getting, then you have to change some of your behavior. Sometimes you have to confront the person who looks back at you in the mirror. Too many people keep doing the same things over and over again, then expecting different results.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/poohbear_2hot/ poohbear_2hot

    i found this article very intriguing. i think it’s funny that we have to find a reason for everything and then stamp across the foreheads of a large group of people. all women don’t want to get married. that’s not my ultimate goal. i didn’t dream about marriage as a child. i think that more black women have decided to stop settling in love. we just got more picky. in an age where women no longer have to depend on men for survival, some of the urgency has been removed from finding a lifetime partner. now we can take the time to find compatability, instead of picking the man with the best ability to provide. besides, women who still search on the basis of ability to provide are now days called gold diggers. ironically, 30 years ago, they were just called smart.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/thots-on-paper/ thots-on-paper

    Not a Saint , not a Devil. But I always though finding your significant other was always about emotions that you feel for that other person. Who in your eyes is the best person for you sinnce sliced bread, once we start ascribing attributes to the value of this person we tend to basterdise the encounter and the person.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/MiSz_PiNk_DiamOnd/ MiSz_PiNk_DiamOnd

    bigleedog,
    We can learn a few thing from steve? Really? The man who’s been married three times? INTERESTING.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/BIG-DENN/ BIG-DENN

    WHAT IT IS THAT THERES NO MALE ROLE MODEL IN MOST OF THE BLACK HOMES SO OUR MEN DONT KNOW HOW TO BE MEN UNTIL AFTER THE FACT AND OUR SISTERS DONT KNOW WHAT THE ROLE OF A BLACK MAN IS IN THE HOME SO THEY DONT KNOW A REAL MAN WHEN THEY SEE ONE SO UNTIL THE MEN ARE IN THE HOMES WITH THERE DAUGHTERS ITS ALWAYS GONNA BE HARD FOR US AND THEM TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IT TAKES TO BE A MAN OR WOMAN

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Curl/ Curl

    I think the author make some valid points, they are just not true for every sista 100% of the time. In my opinion, the sista he describes here is the successful chick that has her expectations set so high, that the right guy may never come along. Those sista’s usually expect some cross between 2 Pac and Denzel, when in reality, the brothers that have some business about themselves aren’t always on that scale so to speak.

    All the other sistas that work everyday, just like you and me don’t always have their expectations set *that* high. I just find that there is usually some other reason why sista’s can’t find “good men”. We are out there, trust! Only speaking for myself, I usually don’t have the *swag* that a lot of women are attracted to. Those same women usually aren’t attracted to the geek either. Add that to the fact that I don’t take the route that society says I should follow, I forge my own path and voila, here I am.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/anlsmith/ anlsmith

    Listen to the comment from LJSPACEMAN — Most of these women are caught up on the alpha male or the bad boys type. Then, after they’ve been dogged out or knocked up then dogged out, they’re an emotional wreck for the next man. Also, gender roles, because Mr. Jailbate – Thug-failure destroyed your faith in men, now you don’t want to cater to ANY MAN even the right one. I have an 8 month old daughter that is being programmed that her men are failures and that she may never find happiness in a relationship without DILUTING HER BLOOD EVEN MORE THAN IT ALREADY IS.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/anlsmith/ anlsmith

    PPS — Also listen to Big Denn — BLACK MEN — We are the LEADERS OF OUR HOMES. Our fathers did so MUCH damage by leaving our families, 5that most men don’t learn how to be men until after 30. BLACK MEN. WE HAVE GOT TO DO BETTER

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/MiSz_PiNk_DiamOnd/ MiSz_PiNk_DiamOnd

    I really don’t know why I come back to read the infuriating comments that generalize all women due to the bad experiences of you males (I say males to denote that you are animals and not men). Men know women–period. MEN know what real strong black women look like, they do not BlTCH and COMPLAIN about what certain females did to them in the past, thereby turning them into bitter males..No, no, no–REAL MEN take their bad relationship experiences and turn them into a lesson learned, that helps them get one step closer to their Queen–REAL MEN Understand the difference between a female and a WOMAN. People need to realize the people they come into contact with (no matter how many) are just a SAMPLE of the population, and couldnt possibly represent a majority.

    IF you are noticing the majority of females YOU come into contact with are nothing but negative…GUESS WHAT THE COMMON DENOMINATOR IS. Learn to self evaluate BEFORE you pawn off YOUR issues on someone else.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/BsmoothDa1st/ BsmoothDa1st

    Man, man, man!!! I’m new to this post but……………the boy-girl game as it relates to black people has become really complicated, but, to only speak on ONE variable in this equation……the black woman has become disgusted or hateful of me, the black man. Not me specifically, but me the black. On a very basic level, the way she views me. I did a little social experiment a few times Where I live, Dallas, black women OFTEN will do everything they can to ignore me, not acknowledge me, avoid eye contact, and will absolutely not speak. This is an indication of a deeper issue.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Curl/ Curl

    I’m not bitter by any means. I just speak from what I have experienced. My remedy was to expand my options, so I opened up the option of dating outside our race. Thats not to say that I’m one of those cats that swear off sista’s, because I’m not. It just so happens that the woman I’m seeing now just happens to be Japanese.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Epittman1/ Epittman1

    Just who is this Dr Boyce, and why should I listen to him? Just like Michael Baisden, he is constantly stirring up some BS. We are no different from any other people; our problems are endemic to other races. Why do so-called black scholars love to pose provocative questions, and then don’t supply any answers or examples of their own? Boyce, you are trying to enter a crowded field of hustlers. Ever wonder why nobody has been able to take MLK’s place?

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/single_409/ single_409

    I just don’t know. For the past year or so since I’ve been single, I’ve met many good men. They just didn’t fit with what I wanted or in many cases needed. So often, women have to look beyond what they see to what is really in a man. We have to get around wanting that tall buff man or that guys with the nice hair. We have to get over what other people will say and remember that what we think about that man is what matters. We need to overlook all of the unnecessary things to get what we want. If you really want someone in your life, pray about it. Your man may be younger, shorter and fatter than what you are physically looking for but he could be the one that satisfies your heart and mind.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/phazex_female/ phazex_female

    Here we go ago with masses following “authorities” instead of using your brain.

    There are no options or men or women.

    However, I would agree that there ARE less numbers of “quality” persons.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/deltaqween/ deltaqween

    heres my thing…i dont get why guys expectations of women are acceptable and when a woman has a standard its called high and unreasonable. if i were to not get my hair done, let my body go and start taking the bus…no guy would want me. why should i want that guy who has those below standard characteristics? its a preference and it should be respected either way. just cause i dont want to talk to you cause i am not attracted or you dont meet my standard dont call me a b-accept it you arent good enough. some guys wont talk to females becasue she didnt fit his standard of “dating models” and thats ok?? Na man na. I want at least what i have accomplished in life in a mate and i dont see why thats unreasonable.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/theopolus20/ theopolus20

    Maybe,Steve Harvey is more qualified then the pastors of these churches,as you can see,they are not getting in line in their churches and allowing the words from God to flow from heaven into their mouthes,so that our husband less woman can find and obtain the wisdom needed to prepare yourselves for what you seek.Now i know,some women will say, what does he know,i know this the husband that you’ll are seeking is hidden in plain sight,for his own protection,from believe it or not you.And you know what he’s not looking for you.Now many black woman,not all will see a dress in store,that require of them to lose weight in order for them to wear it.To men and women,lose the weight of ignorance,are suffer the fate of being alone with your dress ware.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/CaliFemme23/ CaliFemme23

    jazzwatch,
    Your post makes my point so very well my man…Exhibit A, Do you see hwo you laid out your accomplishments, you spoke on your ambition and the fact that you dont have those bad habits of drinking and smoking etc…?
    NOW, on the other hand, when you ‘voiced’ what kind of woman you wanted, you said in huge letters a HOTTIE…You didnt mention brains, intelligence, conversationalist, maturity, career oriented, ambitious, strong or level headed…You stressed HOTTIE, meaning her ‘LOOKS’…

    This is a perfect example of men who say they cant find anyone, but yet they arent looking for women of substance…that speaks VOLUMES about you men. You too need to stop with the BS requests and search for substance and longevity in a woman…Not just her bra/panty/hip measurements…

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/LastManStandingTall/ LastManStandingTall

    I cosign 100%.

    I really like number 2. Take that one in good, ladies…

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/willpoc/ willpoc

    U know there are plenty of good brothers around. Some are down street, right next to u, behind u or where u go there always be good men. But problem is that some of these sisters don’t see them. Why because of the way they might look, appear, or what somebody say. It do matter to a real man what u make or how many degrees u have. All don’t matter to a real man because he is not looking at that he wants u. But most sisters want these thugs or bad boys. These dueds don’t give damn about who or what u are. But those be the ones the want but then when the get broken hearted all brothers are bad and no good. Wrong how many good brothers where looked over or past to get to that thug. That me for instance I have been told I’m too nice, too sweet or not enough life experice. I guess because I wasn’t going around sleeping or trying to get with everything I see or trying to be good was a bad thing. I know I’m not the finest or the cutest i’m just me this is how god made and how I will be. But then hold let a good brother get with a white woman or a woman of another race. Then he a sell out or she took another good brother. Wrong wrong wrong when y’all looking past and over him that white woman looked straight at him. And instead of being good one of u he is doing every u where looking for in a man with her. That doctor is right some black women have their ownself blame not the world

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/j_sp8ts/ j_sp8ts

    My mom once told me. We try so hard to hold on to the one’s thats no good and that don’t want you. But when a good one want you, you dont want them. When she told me that I laughed knowing that she was right but ignorant me kept doing my thing until I got enough.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/mj7angel/ mj7angel

    This is long, but well worth the read. I had no intention of posting a blog, but reading most of these unlearned, insensitive and divisive comments, I realized that the slave mentality has yet to be eliminated in the black community. The greatest problem I have noticed with all the comments that I have read is that none of them mentioned anything about love. I read, “My standards, what I’m looking for, meet my needs, what I want, etc.” Selfish!!! But when you find these things and because of the lack of love they don’t last then it is back to the saying “Where are the good black men/women?” Or “there aren’t any good black men!” And “all the good black men are in jail!”(Laugh). And worse you label the entire group as “no good!” Stop looking for the standards and look for love, notice a good man or woman even if you are not attracted to them and give them their due/respect as individuals. You will never find the person you want and need if you are always presenting or looking for a negative. No one in this world is perfect or will ever have every quality or possession that we desire, but if you look for Love you will find everything you need and most of what you desire. So let’s stop beating up each other, that’s how we were kept in slavery for so long (divide and conquer, a house divided shall not stand). And let’s stop blaming every black man for women being single mothers (most decided to be single mother themselves, and during the early years a man had to leave home to find work because of racism). We should try learning some history and you will understand how many (black) families could not have a man in the house to get needed social services (look up the Chicago inner city housing project of the late 1960’s). Don’t blame black men for your inability to become more than what you are or to be less than what you were. Quit arguing about something that is so simple to fix and it starts with love thy self. Charity begins at home then spreads abroad! Love like you want to be loved! A kind word goes further than a kick in the rear (or balls)! Women are precious jewels and men are the miners, so women act like you are precious and men treat women as if they are precious jewels and I know we will find the good apples. No man or woman is born bad or no-good, we are made that way when we are not nurtured and not taken care of when growing and ripening. So pick well.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/mj7angel/ mj7angel

    One other thing we must remember, as my mother told me and my sisters “you won’t find a good man or woman in the club!” Both are there looking for the same thing and it’s not a long term relationship. I say to women that if you want a “good man” then you need to be a “good woman” and allow him to be a man and stop saying “I don’t need a man” because you will not have one soon enough. If you don’t need one (a man) then stop saying there are no good ones out there, because you have ran him/them away. I hear a woman making those type comments I will not waste my time on her. Show some love and kindness, because a good man knows he needs a good woman and so does your sons. Think about what women have been tell men since the 70′s and you can see why you/we are having this Dilemma, (we are in it together). God created woman from man’s rib therefore I know that I need a woman, but I don’t need someone who is a liability, a millstone or beats me down; I need her to lean on because I get tired, she suppose to be my support, my partner, and I will put her on the pedestal she has earned and deserve. Ladies stop killing your own relationships and remember we need each other!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/ringo10/ ringo10

    Too many women don’t give guys a chance. Here’s an example. I was at the bus stop and I saw a beautiful sister. I tried to talk to and it was obvious she wasn’t going to give me the time of day. Now I may not be Denzel but I don’t think I’m a bad looking cat (6’4, 210, well groomed etc.).

    Anyway, the bus comes and we both get on and move on to our respective destinations. My car was being detailed and I was on the bus to go pick it up. I happened to see the same young lady at the bus stop on her way home from work that night. This chick was all in the car, waving, winking and everything else.

    It was clear that she didn’t want to talk to a brother that was taking the bus. She wouldn’t give me the time of day but when she saw me in the ride, now she’s ready to holla.

    Women…..Stop being so judgemental. Plenty of guys are looking for the same thing you are which is that special person to share special times with.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/DJSeriousBiz/ DJSeriousBiz

    Man somebody change the record please. Why is this BS even a topic? Moreso, why do we have to do everything collectively seems like too many Black folks act like we/they can’t function independently. If you can’t find a good whatever then either your standards are too high/low, you’re looking in the wrong places, or you ain’t worthy of what you want and ain’t gone get it anyway. Bottom line is it’s your own fault if you single and don’t want to be so stop blaming the opposite sex, the govenrnment, society, & rap music (just kiddin) for YOUR shortcomings. And stop waiting for Jesus to send you somebody and use the common sense that he gave you to do for self. Faith without works is dead and that applies to everything not just spirituality.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/MisterMcknight89/ MisterMcknight89

    According to statistics from “The Economist”, 1 in 20 Black Men ages 20-29 are incarcerated as opposed to 1 in 150 Black Women ages 20-29. Black men are dropping out of school out higher rates. Also take into account homicide rates among Black Men. Then take into account that for many black women ex-convicts aren’t a choice for dating/marriage. Unemployment also hit Black men harder. I believe the issue is less about our capability to love and more about our availability to love. So shouldn’t we be talking about what we can do to make our neighborhoods more suitable to foster intra-racial relationships and an actual sense of community?

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/SwtChocLady3/ SwtChocLady3

    I think Steve HArvey has some very good points. He has been on both sides of the fence on being, and NOT being a ‘dog’ sort of speak. Yet I TOTALLY disagree with Miss Shepard abot ‘valadating you man’. A REAL man does NOT NEED HIS WOMANS VALADATION!!! A real man does need to hear, I think, things to make him feel wanted. Example, in my last relationship, I would REMIND my man of how good he is to me before he left for work, and how he is veryhandsome… Not because he ‘needed it’. Because if I do not,another woman will. Women LOVE complements. Weget LIVID if we do not hear it from out man…Let another man notice your womans beauty ( or booty) THEN, he will wake up. LAdies, thankyour man for being a MAN..

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/SoularFlarez/ SoularFlarez

    dont focus on ‘men aint s**t, all men are gay or in jail’ cuz thats all you gonna see and attract

    focus on what you DO want to attract for yourself

    see yourself enjoying it so you draw him in instead of sub-consciously believing he doesnt exist, stop sabotaging your own happiness

    and remember your own femininity…we know you’re a lioness but we like when you can be a kitten too.

    men dont want a welfare queen but we are more concerned with your character and compatatilibty with us than your resume’

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/cubsfan1973/ cubsfan1973

    I WILL SAY THIS — THIS IS ONE OF THE FEW TIMES I CAN ACTUALLY AGREE WITH DR. BOYCE!!!
    BUT IN REALITY, MOST WOMEN ARE NOT GOING TO READ THIS ENTIRE POST AND STILL WILL HAVE THE SAME JACKED UP ATTITUDE AS USUAL!!! ( NOT SAYING ALL WOMEN!!!)

    BUT THIS IS A REALLY GOOD POST HERE!!! WOMEN SHOULD READ AND PAY HEED!!!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Free2bEmE360/ Free2bEmE360

    Whew! Very interesting to say the least. Truly, I’m tired of hearing about the difficulties, and imbalances that are amongst the gods & goddesses of the planet. These are strange times for those looking from that perspective, and beautiful times for those that understand the process of change/betterment is a build & destroy phenomenon. I trust in the process…whatabout you?

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/uwantsumnow/ uwantsumnow

    if they get rid of there nasty attitudes they might find someone willing to tolerate them and sherri shepard is far from handsome

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/tone0469/ tone0469

    Sometimes a few words are just as powerful as many words. “If you don’t love or respect yourself, how can you love and respect someone else?” Just because your job gives you power doesn’t mean you are. The weakest people are those who have power in the business world. They loose who they are and expect everyone to act the way they are at their job. So, a lack of respect is shown….That word “RESPECT” is such a big word but many misuse it or don’t know what it mean.

    Learn to love and respect yourself and then you want have to worry about finding a good man, he will find you. If you treat someone like crap, why would they want to stick around? If you want me to treat you like a queen, then treat me like a king not your servant.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/newleadership/ newleadership

    Todays Black women can’t find good Black men because todays Black woman does not want to have a Black man who has not already “arrived,” and does not want to nurture a man who has “potential” to ultimately achieve trhe economic status that Black women want today. Thats not the problem of the Black man.

  • http://friendswithbenefitsshow.com/?p=586 friends with benefits show » Blog Archive » Why Successful Black Women Can’t Find a Good Man

    [...] recently discussing the dating challenges of the modern black woman. The dominant theme is that black women can’t find good men, and that this impacts their romantic happiness. The list of reasons that people mention for this [...]

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/A_Lost_Man/ A_Lost_Man

    Even more than that Newleadership is that too many black women want things THEIR way. At times when it was hard for me to find work, they complained for me to “take anything/what you can get,” but when I found full-time positions that demanded a great deal of my time for me to move up in the organization or so I could make a career out of it, then the same women were moaning, “You never have time for me.” People simply can’t get everything they want…people in hell after all want ice water.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/EbonyBishop/ EbonyBishop

    This is a good article. Newleadership makes a point also, but I will take it a step further. A lot of black women do not want to deal with a successful man because they fear that he will just as easily leave her alone when she decides to trip. But what these woman don’t know is, if you play your role (oh no I said the ROLE word) that dude would be more than happy to ride for you.

    Oh well, maybe some of them will get it when they are 50 or something.
    LOL

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Dark_Zero/ Dark_Zero

    Alot of you brothas have great points as I have read, and printed out the article and comments to show black women in my college and workplace. This is the thing I have been saying since my early 20′s about black women and I am so so happy so many brothas out there agree with me. Thank you A_Lost_Man, NewLeadership, Tone0469, and everyone else. I am a young 27 year old brotha, standing at 6’3″, about to graduate with my Masters in Public Administration this upcoming May, has a corporate job, and I have my own crib, and I am 27 with NO KIDS.

    I feel like black women of my generation thinking they are flawless creatures who get what they want. Who told them this? The media? Their mothers and fathers? Steve Harvey? I am a man who just wants a woman who is strong, successful, nurturing, understanding, and romantic, and don’t have a bunch of dudes in her phone, that’s all. Now, if I have a bunch of women in my phone, I am a playa or a dog, and a woman has the right to be mad, but if she has a bunch of guys in her phone, oh that’s normal. This double standard B.S and what a good man is. What is a good woman? And a good woman doesn’t revolve around a degree and a 9-5pm job. What makes you women out there so judgemental and worthy to call yourselves good?

    Alot of black men (despite what the media says), are successes, no kids, single, and what about them? Why can’t a good black man find a good black woman? Thugs, jailbirds, those are not good men for the most part, might be good characters, but most have poor decision making choices. You know what, maybe there needs to be a segment on 20/20 next on ABC about it’s hard for good black men to find a good black woman, and invite those single black women, and have a forum with the two and find out what the problem is without the celebrities point of views, I want to hear from the public. But this article, I am so glad someone finally put the truth out there.

    Thank you Dr. Boyce Watkins

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/LeKese/ LeKese

    I have so many concerns about the mindset of this writer. I wonder if this writing is based on a real survey of women or just the opinion of the writer.

    I know who I am in a relationship by the things that the man does for me, to me and with me. If any of those items prove to be nothing, then I am nothing to that man and I must move on; alone.

    {One has to be skeptical of the capable woman who says she can’t find a good man} I guess that depends on what the writer define as good. Having a job and recognizing oneself as a man does not make a “good man”.

    {Most women I know who are have no trouble finding suitable mates} Really? Well how many women does this writer know? 2 or 3 – maybe.

    {the only constant variable in your relationships is a person called YOU.} True, that is why I and most other women take our time when deciding whom we will give our committed souls to; if you know that the man is not right for you, why should you settle.

    {I know a lot of “regular guys” who are unable to find a woman that is interested in being with them} Good. Where are they? Give me the names and numbers of these “regular guys” and let them know I will be calling.

    On another note, you have to love newsone for holding true to the freedome of speech for allowing this is a one-sided bias writing to be published.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/DameDivalicious/ DameDivalicious

    It’s easy for me to read a person but some women if they can they will still go with a man that is no good because they think they can change them for the better. There are those who can’t read people but you did think they would learn anything from past relationships and continuing going around in circles. Majority of time black women including the men need to check themselves first because if they don’t then would there be so much talking about there’s no good black men (or women too)?

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/DameDivalicious/ DameDivalicious

    Oh, and I agree strongly with Dr. Boyce’s article.

    @SoularFlarez and ringo10, I also agree strongly with the both of you.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/greywolf5/ greywolf5

    It happens around pre teens, you go to a party/dance and there she is. You’ve been tryin to get up the courage to talk to her since the first time you saw her…Well here she is and you’re gonna step up and let her know how you feel. Your buddies are givin you a hard time but you’re finally going to ignore them and make your play. You begin that long 20-30 ft walk. Your heart is beatin like a trip hammer…You wipe your hands on your pants (real cool like) to wipe away the sweat. One of her friends sees you comin and they begin to giggle…Ignoring the fear and embarassment you press on…Finally you get there…IN your best young man voice (hoping it doesn’t crack) you ask “Un…you wanna dance?”.

    Without missing a beat she says “Nah, I’m tired. I think I’m going to sit for awhile” (that is if she’s got a smidgen of compassion)…You pick up your face and begin the even longer walk back/ Before you can cover 5 ft, up comes “Lil Wham Bam”…You turn to see him grab her by the arm and pull her to the dance floor. You notice that he doesn’t talk “to” her but that he talks “at” her…To make matters worse…She leaps to her feet griinin like crazy…You turn and walk your (3.5 gpa) behind back to your buddies who are just itchin to give you the blues and you wonder what you’re doin wrong and what he’s doin right…

    And so it begins…

    Now many of you might say that men are guilty of the same BS and I’d have to agree with you. We are suckas for big legs and a pretty behind..And I firmly believe that we (men) spend more time in pickin our road dogs that we do our wives…But here’s the rub..We can’t get pregnant, we usually don’t end up with the kids, we usually don’t end up being physically and psychologically abused, you don’t hear us bemoaning the fact that we can’t find somebody as we get older, like it or not we have a longer “shelf life” and if we have a lil money an some class that can be extended a loooong time, and we’re rightly or wrongly able to compartmentalize our realationships…

    I wish all mothers would pass on to their daughters the lessons that you (hopefully) learned in your youth (preferably before you have children)and that lesson is…The guy who’s on a 4 yr academic scholarship to Yale wnats to do the same thing as Lil Thugmo does…You must let them know that a man with a plan beats a man with an attitude everytime…

    And as far as women who say “I need a man who can handle this/me”…Please take it from someone who has dealt with this more than a few times…that kind of mindset comes with a lot of negative baggage…And before you begin to argue…Please believe me when I say that unless you’re a lesbian, I/we might know a little more about this mindset than ya’ll do…

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/lilq2286/ lilq2286

    its sad how you damn negros minds are programmed see they programmed you all to think like that about each other so that the race can die hell I am guilty because I see nothing good coming from black woman besides oh they need they hair nails toes done, clothes purses cars etc but the min a brother tell them no oh he a broke ass or a bum! quite sad hell a white female stands by her man if he only has a penny in his pocket and not talking about them NBA white hoes either!!! them groupies, the every day wholesome beautiful white woman!!!!!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Amore1973/ Amore1973

    Really? I mean really? So it is lets blame black women? Naw I am sorry to say that black women go above and beyond for men and they still get treated like dirt. They compromise, they open their hearts, they listen give them their space all the right things but still they get lied to, cheated and then dumped like they are worth nothing. I am sorry to say that black women deserve to be respected and It is the men’s job to treat her like a queen. I am sorry but black women to get attitudes for no reason. I am really sick of hearing people talk about black women like we are some stupid women. All I have to say is that we black women give too many chances to black men, too man. There are good men out there alright! Please. Let me say that black women want to look good for you black men so you should be glad that they want to do that and let me tell you that’s not cheap. Black women are too strong and they need strong men. Not punks who opt out to take the easy way out. Shoot we could do that too but most of us black women have enough respect for you black men to even date you. So you should be even honored to have black women give you a sec of their time.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Amore1973/ Amore1973

    Black women can nurture and love black men but black men mess it all up when they take advantage of it and take it for granted then go to marry the next white women who fixes their credit. Sometimes it is a black woman. Either way this is why black women want a man has already arrived and trust me black women can get anything they want themselves if they really want to. So please lets put a stop to this poor black man the victim. Victim my ass. You know whats up and you know it dang well. And all these books that supposily teach you about relationship let me say that there are plenty to go around however we still have 50% at least of divorces and Im sure plenty of black single mothers left alone because some black man promised them the world then he realized that he couldn’t handle it. Please don’t get me started. All I have to say keep your standards high up high because compromising shouldn’t be an option because we ourselves black women shouldn’t be an option, We are priorities. And why is it always black women who have attitudes? What is it that white women have that black women don’t? Nothing, nothing at all, some black men are just plein stupid and childish.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/XL_611/ XL_611

    The bone of contention here seems to be that women look for men who have minimal financial means. Why shouldn’t they?

    There is very little chance of success in a relationship, unless the couple can do things together. That takes a minimal income, a car, and a place to live.

    To raise a family, takes a substantial income. Women are doing nothing more than a favor to themselves, and the men they turn away, by not so much as making an attempt in a relationship where that income is not possible in the foreseeable future.

    Some women, of course, look for men who are wealthy. But we live in a culture where it’s get all you can, and don’t settle for less.

    But, both men and women contribute some elements to the problem and you can’t lay it at the feet of either one.

    Thus, it’s up to each individual to work things out with the individuals that come into their lives…….Duh…..

    LOL

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/odoggz/ odoggz

    It take humility, and that’s what lacking from any people today. Dial it back a gram, smell yourself, clean up, then come back to the table. These people come with wishlists of their wants, completely ignoring or not being able to accurately qualify their “needs” (legitimate needs), and end up demanding unrealistic things of others. I say, before you go at someone about how they’re not up to par, ask yourself “Just what do ‘I’ bring to the table?”. If all you bring is some puzzy and a few dollars, you’re worthless. Just think about that, most people have no idea what their worth is, to the person they’re sexing. They don’t bring anything refreshing into any relationship, they just play the rotating game of ‘musical sexual-partners’, then hope they can make something serious out of that. That’s doomed to fail before it begins.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/mrenayj/ mrenayj

    We’re just never going to leave this topic alone, huh? Yeah, there are some good ones out there, you just have to dig for them. Yeah some women can be extremely too picky or demanding when it comes to a mate, carrying around a unattainable wish list. Hell some lists make a death row inmate have a better chance of getting a lap dance before injection. On the other hand, why not be picky, it’s a soul mate you’re looking for, not a wham bam thank you Sam. Hell, look at the women to men ratio. Think about it. And if black women are so damn demanding, let em be, quit blaming them for bullcrap “mishaps” and move on. Who’s the writer that talks about why men can’t keep a good black woman? MY BAD, THERE’S NO SUCH WRITER.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/jazzwatch/ jazzwatch

    True, Califemme, I don’t just want a lady with great T and As, I do like a woman with a sense of humore, career goals and interests (she likes bowling, swimming,freakiness, etc…) not BSing….She doesn’t have to look like Serena or Free(106 park), but I don’t want to end up with Aunt Ester or Precious-noooooo!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/ej3318/ ej3318

    The writer is defending a position and not representing all black men. However, he did makes some valid points. Truly, we as a people of the black culture in America, really could use some Knowledge, skills,and training and strategies it takes to maintain a healthy, happy, functional, loving longterm relationship. We are complex beings that takes a lot of understanding in order to relate on any level. Close intimate relationships are designed for your Growth not for what you were led to believe. That unconfortable feeling we experience when things get tough in our relationship are areas of growth of the lessons we haven’t learned or mastered in our walk of life. Say, how do one know when you are ready for a relationship? Is is when you decide that, I did all the things on my list now I want a mate? To many times, people make their list expecting GOD or life to fulfill that list. When in truth, there in no one on the planet that has everything on their list fulfilled, because that desire that you have to have fulfill to be happy is one of the worst routes to happiness. It just not wise to use that part of yourself that craving and burning desire as a need that has to be fulfilled in order for you to experience continuous happiness. So, I say all of that to say, if there is a panel meeting somewhere and giving support to an irrational belief like “Black women can’t find a good man.” Then that panel is unconscious and misguided to even consider the thought. This is an independent preceived problem that is passed on unconsciously by person to person until it seem true. How many men do one woman need? I think one. Is there one good man? I am sure you get my point. So, really this is just entertainment and not reality.

  • http://africanamericanmoney.wordpress.com/2010/04/24/boyce-watkins-on-abc-news-love-and-money-questions-to-ask-your-partner/ Boyce Watkins on ABC News – Love and Money Questions to ask Your Partner « African American Money

    [...] As a Finance Professor, I find it incredibly ironic that many people get married without talking about money. They talk about every kind of compatibility from emotional, to spiritual, sexual, and professional, but they seldom take the time necessary to ensure that they can tolerate the idea of sharing their financial life with a person who may not be on the same page. This problem is compounded in black relationships, where many women describe economic hurdles as one of the reasons that black women have trouble finding the right mate. [...]

  • http://drboycewatkins.com/syracusefinance/?p=168 Dr. Boyce on ABC News: Financial Questions You Should Ask Your Partner – Syracuse Finance

    [...] As a Finance Professor, I find it incredibly ironic that many people get married without talking about money. They talk about every kind of compatibility from emotional, to spiritual, sexual, and professional, but they seldom take the time necessary to ensure that they can tolerate the idea of sharing their financial life with a person who may not be on the same page. This problem is compounded in black relationships, where many women describe economic hurdles as one of the reasons that black women have trouble finding the right mate. [...]

  • http://drboycewatkins.com/thesyracuseprofessor/?p=240 Dr. Boyce on ABC News: Financial Questions You Should Ask Your Partner : The Syracuse Professor

    [...] As a Finance Professor, I find it incredibly ironic that many people get married without talking about money. They talk about every kind of compatibility from emotional, to spiritual, sexual, and professional, but they seldom take the time necessary to ensure that they can tolerate the idea of sharing their financial life with a person who may not be on the same page. This problem is compounded in black relationships, where many women describe economic hurdles as one of the reasons that black women have trouble finding the right mate. [...]

  • http://scholarshipinaction.wordpress.com/2010/04/24/syracuse-professor-boyce-watkins-speaks-on-abc-news-about-love-and-money/ Syracuse Professor Boyce Watkins speaks on ABC News about Love and Money « Scholarship in Action at Syracuse University

    [...] As a Finance Professor, I find it incredibly ironic that many people get married without talking about money. They talk about every kind of compatibility from emotional, to spiritual, sexual, and professional, but they seldom take the time necessary to ensure that they can tolerate the idea of sharing their financial life with a person who may not be on the same page. This problem is compounded in black relationships, where many women describe economic hurdles as one of the reasons that black women have trouble finding the right mate. [...]

  • http://blackmoney.wordpress.com/2010/04/24/dr-boyce-watkins-on-abc-news-love-and-money-questions-to-ask-your-partner/ Dr. Boyce Watkins on ABC News – Love and Money Questions to ask Your Partner « Black Money and Black Wealth, made simple

    [...] As a Finance Professor, I find it incredibly ironic that many people get married without talking about money. They talk about every kind of compatibility from emotional, to spiritual, sexual, and professional, but they seldom take the time necessary to ensure that they can tolerate the idea of sharing their financial life with a person who may not be on the same page. This problem is compounded in black relationships, where many women describe economic hurdles as one of the reasons that black women have trouble finding the right mate. [...]

  • http://blackgossip2.wordpress.com/2010/04/24/how-to-make-sure-you-dont-marry-a-financial-venereal-disease/ How to Make sure you Don’t marry a Financial Venereal Disease « Black Gossip for Black America, Black Celebrities included

    [...] As a Finance Professor, I find it incredibly ironic that many people get married without talking about money. They talk about every kind of compatibility from emotional, to spiritual, sexual, and professional, but they seldom take the time necessary to ensure that they can tolerate the idea of sharing their financial life with a person who may not be on the same page. This problem is compounded in black relationships, where many women describe economic hurdles as one of the reasons that black women have trouble finding the right mate. [...]

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/pantherg08/ pantherg08

    As i read alot of the posts on here i cant help but wonder, how many of the black women on here actually follow what they say? Meaning u guys say u want a ceartin guyk but in reality u choose the opposite! How many of u women say your a good women when u arent real with yourself? I love black women, but lately ive been finding that dating outside my race is a little easier then dealing with my own sometime. I took a black girl out to eat the other day and one of the first things she asked me was what i could do for her, instead of getting to know me, i took a white girl out, and she was more into asking questions about me, instead of what i can do for her, we both know alot of black women have this mentality, so really they have there self to blame for not being able to find the right men.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/shyscorpio1/ shyscorpio1

    i agree with the vast majority of this article and cosign almost all of it!!!
    the only problem i have with any of it is the part about the comedians point of view. true, STEVE HARVEY isnt nessasarily the person you should be listening to but niether are any so called marriage counselors because they only seem to make some matters worse!
    but there are a LOT of real comedians out there with real insight on relationships and marriage and the truth is in their stand up acts! if you carefully listen through the laughter at some of your favorite jokes- you can easily find yourself remembering certain incidents the comedian is describing and saying “I REMEMBER THAT!” or you remember another person going through that same thing!
    there are pearls of wisdom in almost every comic out there and NO THEY DONT HAVE TO WRITE A RELATIONSHIP BOOK ON THE SUBJECT TO BE RIGHT ABOUT SOMETHING!!!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/shyscorpio1/ shyscorpio1

    1 other thing…. nobody wants to end up like a black Larry King just to be old and rich and still the only way he could get some Pucci is to marry the witches?! as my man said… “COMEON SON!!!
    that aint worth it just to either get laid or be happy!
    happiness is having someone around who will respect you and you her and aint gonna bail at the first minor mistakes or any other reason!!!
    there is a reason the line “TIL DEATH DO US PART!” is in those vows, aint no judge gonna pull asunder what WE decided to put together laegally in the first place, i think we need to have a hunting party for all divorce lawyers and judges first before marriage is ever to be put in favor again!!!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/WindChimes/ WindChimes

    LOL @Watkins what an article. lol smh

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/hprince4/ hprince4

    Amen!!! Thats what I’ve been saying since this whole sh*t about women not being able to find men came out. Finally somebody else said what was on my mind. He hit in on the head, 100%

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/YooDown/ YooDown

    Oh Please!!! Black women these days are not looking for love. Black women nowadays are simply looking for money and having control by having their own ways at everything. A man is only a financial tool and a sex toy for these black women these days.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/MiSz_PiNk_DiamOnd/ MiSz_PiNk_DiamOnd

    Let the bitter MALES (not men) testify….Go ‘head you whiny, alone, bitter BlTCHES.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Shinobi_Kokujin/ Shinobi_Kokujin

    get an Asian woman an be saved!!!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/wickedmercedez/ wickedmercedez

    Maybe if these women stopped trying to date ballers, rappers and thugs, they would notice the decent men around them. Just because a man doesnt make as much as you do, doesnt mean he can not provide for you. Just because a man doesnt have the same education as you do, doesnt mean he can not educate you. Just because a man doesnt have the same career level job you have , it doesnt mean he doesnt have a good job. Just because a man doesnt own an expensive luxary car, doesnt mean he cant afford one, maybe he just doesnt want one, maybe its not his style. If he doesnt own his own home..maybe hes waiting til hes married to buy one so he and his wife can fill it white children. Come one ladies. you need to get your priorities in check. money, cars, and fancy things can not get you a man that will love you and be loyal to you. you ladies need to keep it real, other wise youll end up old and alone. and youll have no one to blame but yourself.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Muzion/ Muzion

    @wickedmercedez:

    Thanks !

    I always have dated (and married) women OLDER than me… mainly because i’m not an “alpha man”… and discovered VERY SOON that it was a useless job to try with yonger girls… And if it was to re-do it again today, i would do it the SAME way !

    I like girls, but i love women !

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/MiSz_PiNk_DiamOnd/ MiSz_PiNk_DiamOnd

    wickedmercedez,

    Arent you dating a WHITE man?

    CASE CLOSED.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/wickedmercedez/ wickedmercedez

    MiSz_PiNk_DiamOnd

    yes i am dating a white man? why you say? because he gives me what i need. he loves me for me. is he a baller ? no? does he have an executive job? no. is he an older man? no. hes a hard working man that loves me with all of his being. he respects me, my body and my family. he is there for me when i need him. he supports me and give me the encouragement that i need to go for my dreams. all of which successful black woman claim they can not find when looking for a black men. its not that black women cant find a man its that cant find a black one. there are plenty of men in the world and maybe if black women opened their eyes to whats around them they too could find a man. just think about this

    even if every black man in america had great careers, no drama, wanted to be in a relationship, was staright nd had no criminal record, there still would be a lot of single black women. do you suggest they just stay single because because there arent enough black men?

    not to mention that the topic deals with why black women arent married no why arent black women married to black men. they are talkin about men in general. and the problem with a lot of black women is they only want black men. do you ever see articles about why black men arent married? no because they find good women to marry black or white, or latina or asian or whatever. all other races are open to dating different races except for black women and thats where their problem lies.

    you should thank me for dating a white man because now just maybe there a black man out there for you

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  • http://www.blackplanet.com/tck7200/ tck7200

    I’m tired of these women with their unvalidated excuses. Most women without a “good” man are without one because of their own doing. Most women had several chances to get that man. He was the one at the library when everybody else on campus was at the frat party. He was the one with the rusty Nova when the neighborhood drug dealer was driving a benz. He was the guy catching the bus to his McDonalds job while you were dating the guy with the stoilen corvette. He also the guy that didn’t wear the latest designers or the $200 sneakers while you were accepting the ill-gotten materials gifts of that brotha who you knew was shady. So relax ladies, as New Edition said in a song, you lose some you win some..sweetheart point blank you lost this one. Now that the brotha has come up and gotten his credentials the right way and found someone who appreciates his flow he’s not gonna give time of day to some golddigger who could have been sharing a great life with him. Go find your former drug dealer!!!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/jamaicacupcake/ jamaicacupcake

    i agree with the dr 1000 percent. sheri bothered me a bit with her tantrums and the part about not wanting to date hill harper back in the day when he didn’t have a car/worked at taco bell. what i don’t feel will work is the part about dating “white/nonblack men” since the majority of black women want BLACK men since they are special/unique and gorgeous. my grandmother used to say that its Abnormal for a woman not to have a man. well, i know that doctors are now saying/discovering that its not Healthy/or good for a woman’s overall mental/emotional health. so , i guess my grandma was right.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/reticence/ reticence

    Its nice that the Dr. wants to give good advice from a man’s perspective, which is good advice. However, let’s be real, he’s a man, and until he walks in a Black woman’s shoes, he will never know how hard it is. His advice is good, but just like he said most men are socialized to be afraid of marriage. It is also a fact that women outnumber men in this country. So, where does that leave us? With the cold hard facts that he stated (men don’t want to marry as much as women) we are back to square one, that there are a lack of good Black men to fulfill the numbers of good Black women looking for them. Therefore, his advice doesn’t solve anything. I am surely not complaining of the lack of good Black men because i’m not one of “those” women, but let’s face it, Black women have a right to be scared because numbers don’t lie. Until Black men and women stop complaining about each other, this will never solved.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/blackpol01/ blackpol01

    its funny that the advice you give is verbatum the advice steve harvey gives in his book…b4 dissing man be a real scientist and proof to back up your theory..scientific process!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Swagger2BagHer/ Swagger2BagHer

    Black women are typically more backwards than any other females I’ve come across. They’ll spend $100′s on weaves, and hair dos but will ignore the rest of their body. That money spent on just one hair do could be used for a gym membership. I don’t mess with wihite women but atleast they’ll hit the gym and take pre-emptive measures with their health and fitness. They won’t be walking around disillusioned as being “thick” if they are 5’5″ and 200lbs like black women will. And let’s keep it real, black women’s choice of men are generally piss poor. I see black women on here 25 plus years old still, in their words looking for a “thuggish gentleman”, f*ck outta here. I guess this “thug” is supposed to have a college degree and be a well spoken “gentleman” too. And black women will date these tatted up thugs fresh out of jail because of their image when these are the same dudes who were somebody’s b*tch in jail and done came home with the monster. Like someone said, how many chances are to be given? After the 2nd or 3rd baby’s daddy, 3rd or 4th child? How many f*ck ups does one deserve before they just need to look in the mirror and do some soul searching instead of blaming everyone else.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Muzion/ Muzion

    @MiSz_PiNk_DiamOnd:

    Is there a problem for a Black Woman to date a White Man ?

    I am a WM and VERY happy that i could date (and marry) a BW.

    Jim Crow is over.

    Case not closed.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/blessedpeacemaker/ blessedpeacemaker

    As an AA woman who’s been married to an AA man for 19 years, I watched that Nightline episode with great interest. I have to say, that the sisters came off a little light on depth. I don’t say that lightly because I somewhat admire Sherri Shepherd and Jacque Reid and I really wanted to understand what they had to share. Maybe their life experiences have just skewed their thinking a bit. It’s gotta be hard for them because they live in a world of fancy restaurants, high fashion, and high powered people. Of course, this is not the reality for most AA men. For those two, there’s no telling what will happen.

    But to my younger sisters take note. First of all, start with values. Look at a young man’s value system. I always see people with a specific set of morals try to compromise with people who don’t share their morals whatever they might be. This is not sustainable. Slow down long enough to befriend a man. Talk about hopes and dreams, and life experiences both his and yours and not in terms of money. Also, to echo Hill Harper, think about potential. Dates with guys you’re just getting to know do not have to involve restaurants that measure their worth in the number of stars given by a reviewer. What’s nice is a guy that would take you to a bookstore and buy you a book that he thinks you’d enjoy. Not expensive, just thoughtful.

    Finally, life in total is not a romance novel. Many days have scenes from romance novels and romcom movies, but mostly when it comes to viable relationships it’s all about everyday stuff like committment, respect, blahzay, blahzay. Work on genuinely becoming a better human being: kinder, more compassionate, more empathetic, more understanding with people in general. Avoid cynicism like the plague!!! Then when he comes, you’ll be ready.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Southern_Swagger82/ Southern_Swagger82

    @wickedmercedez

    Next time you come on here, remember to bring a collection plate so I can pay my tithes and offerings because you took me to church with your comments lol! I wish alot of black women had the mentality that wickedmercedez have because thats why black women are single because they are waiting for a Good Black Man instead of a Good Man. I’m not waiting on a black woman I’m waiting on a woman that’s going to steal my heart no matter what race she is. Black Women like Sherri Shepherd is one of the reason why Black Women are single today.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/MiSz_PiNk_DiamOnd/ MiSz_PiNk_DiamOnd

    wickedmercedez,

    Lol I should thank you? Lol no thanks. I have my strong BLACK king by my side and the only one getting thanks for that is GOD. I bring up the fact that youre dating a white man because this article is in reference to BLACK WOMEN that actually WANT to find a black man, not those like you, fleeing to the arms of a white man, like the end of the article suggests.

    Muzion,

    Did I say there was a problem? You obviously read much more into what I said TO SOMEONE ELSE. Perhaps it is your insecurities, frankly I dont care. Sure you CAN date a black woman, it won’t be me- and for that I’m extremely happy. You will NEVER match the strength of a black man, and thereby NOT attractive to MANY black women, so maybe you shall find a woman like wickedmercedez, to give you the time of day, because Real Black Women, know theres nothing more than being able to depend on the love, strength, and wisdom that ONLY a black MAN can provide.

    SO wickedmercedez, good luck with your…’white man’ but refrain from commenting on topics you are clearly not aware of.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Valerie_Joanel13601/ Valerie_Joanel13601

    my problem is keeping one, i can admit to that, but now if any women that is not on that level yet then you have issues because there is no way for you to have a goodman on your side if your not willing to know what manhood is all about, you have to understand what a takes to be a goodman and its not making a list of what you want them to come with. you wonna goodman joint he rest of the crew in 2010 and not in 2006.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/MiSz_PiNk_DiamOnd/ MiSz_PiNk_DiamOnd

    Southern_Swagger82, Exactly WHAT IS WRONG WITH WAITING FOR A GOOD BLACK MAN? Smh you folks really kill me. I’d rather be alone for the rest of my life than date outside my race. Smh at loving the black man and your race being a flaw. You people are sickening.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/jazzwatch/ jazzwatch

    NOBODY is perfect…we all might not have the money, big cars, homes or the looks, but we have love, dignity and respect for the RIGHT lady; only those who judge us by their bad or good choices (or rejecting those who are NOT selling drugs, have jail records or bums) are the ones who’s gonna miss out on great guys or they’ll date ouside their race, but keep in mind the grass isn’t ALWAYs greener on the other side, either(Garcelle, Stacey)……

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Muzion/ Muzion

    @MiSz_PiNk_DiamOnd:

    I perfectly know that in most cases, dating a Black woman will result in failure since over 90 % of people are endogamous. be it White, Black or any other racial group. But, please, do not judge your sisters because they are having an union with someone in another racial group !

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Shontay17/ Shontay17

    I’m gone add my two cents but I think its important to “learn” how men think. Men and women do not think alike.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/NOitall/ NOitall

    My black sisters are the most beautiful and difficult creations god ever made. I covet you high but I can honestly say I haven’t met a black woman that I got along with(in 24years of existence). Most black women I’ve encountered were bossy and overdemanding. Even your comments on here you called some dudes b***hes. I don’t want a chick like that even if she looked like beyonce. Act like a lady and not like one of my niggaz.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/mybeatzgood/ mybeatzgood

    it’s like this some women want a good man but they don’t know how to act around a good man

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/NOitall/ NOitall

    Oh and women quit acting like we owe you something I don’t have to give you or promise you shyt.if you don’t like me for who I am and not what I have bytch keep it moving!!!!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/SHAWTYIMANYMPHO/ SHAWTYIMANYMPHO

    i couldn’t agree more i was always the guy who would be interested in a girl but she would want someone else. women need to wake up & realize their flaws as much as men do.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/pantherg08/ pantherg08

    The only bad thing about this article is that most women arent going to take it serious. I love black women, but i do find myself getting along with women of diffrent races easier, so in general i find good women, just not alot of good black women, maybe if ther were more realistic, and genuine it woudent be a problem but im not gonna wait for that, im gonna keep dating any race i choose!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Game4iT/ Game4iT

    who cares most hoez aint s**t full of emotional issues really walking train wreck and I treat them as such but for the Women out there a good man not hard to find step back and take a closer look at the niggaz u bringin in your life as katt williams said in other words” ladies if u 25 and still talking about niggaz aint s**t maybe u should figure out why is your p***y attracting aint s**t niggaz” think about it

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/MiSz_PiNk_DiamOnd/ MiSz_PiNk_DiamOnd

    What part of my post did you see me judging ms.wicked? None. I simply stated she shouldn’t speak on topics she clearly isn’t a part of. After making such a brazen statement as to say that black women would be alone no matter what they did, I realized debting was futile. The truth of the matter is if YOU want to be in an interracial relationship, go ahead but don’t you dare chastize the black women who love and cherish our strong black kings, thats absolutely ridiculous

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/MiSz_PiNk_DiamOnd/ MiSz_PiNk_DiamOnd

    What part of my post did you see me judging ms.wicked? None. I simply stated she shouldn’t speak on topics she clearly isn’t a part of. After making such a brazen statement as to say that black women would be alone no matter what they did, I realized debating was futile. The truth of the matter is if YOU want to be in an interracial relationship, go ahead but don’t you dare chastize the black women who love and cherish our strong black kings, thats absolutely ridiculous

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Divine_Spirals/ Divine_Spirals

    @blessedpeacemaker: Thank you so much for your comment. Very thoughtful! I would like to defend some of us sisters who happen to be level-headed and high-achieving. A lot of us aren’t looking for the Christian corporate-thug that only exists in romance novels. However, even then, a lot of us are running into guys who lack social graces, are scared of women, and may even just hate women in general.

    “What’s nice is a guy that would take you to a bookstore and buy you a book that he thinks you’d enjoy. Not expensive, just thoughtful.”

    Give me a sane and slightly attractive guy that does that and I’d be a very happy woman. It’s not just the super-rich and super-attractive men who are using women and tossing them aside. Your regular Joe’s do this very often themselves, acting out fantasies of the “baller” lifestyle where attractive women are disposable commodities.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/wickedmercedez/ wickedmercedez

    Southern_Swagger82

    Thank you for appreciating what I am saying. Some people are just to blind and too hard headed to see whats in front of them.

    MiSz_PiNk_DiamOnd

    I have every right to speak on this subject. Last time I checked I am a black women and just because I date non black men doesnt make me any less of a black women. You asked whats wrong with waiting for a good black man? Nothing is wrong with that. The problem is that when black women arent finding them they are complaining. Black women need to stop looking at black man as the only posibility for a partner. And thats why so many are single. I will say it again….there are just more of us then there are of them. So just sitting around waiting for one particular type of man is just nonsence especally when there are many other types of men out there that will treat you just as well if not better than a black man. And not only that but they WANT BLACK WOMEN!!! If you want to keep waiting for your black knight, fine, do so, but do not complain to the world that there isnt a man for you because that just not true. Tell the truth and shame the devil ok. If you want a man theres plenty out there and you dont have to change you standards, just the skin color.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/KingZkwan/ KingZkwan

    Why Care? Why should unless you have daugthers care about whether Black women can find good men or not? That is a problem for Blackwomen and Blackwomen alone. Everyone is writing books on it and during shows on it. But who cares? I’m not being anti-sensitive to the issue it’s just that an issue. Issues begin within people and they create our outer world. We know many women not just Black women have issues liking nice guys. The kill or be killed attitude of Alpha Males has limited place in our modern society so most men will be nice. Women aren’t being stalked and killed and as such need a killer Alpha male so why are women focused upon such types? It is a natural need in thing to be surrounded by the most powerful men and that need has no place in modern society. So deep down it’s an issue women have to resolve whether Black, White or Asian. When they cut off almost majority of the men as too nice or too weak they’re expressing their unappreciation for modern society and saying men today are too weak, soft, etc. And they will be alone for wanting something that isn’t available. Peace.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/NOitall/ NOitall

    I need me a Zoe Soldana type bytch.. hood bytches get on my nerves

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/duncan69/ duncan69

    fuch it and let it go sistas cause its obvious most if not all black women are fuched up in the head,all of this shyt is based on attitude and im sure most sistas know this.what makes you think you can walk down any street in this country and not speak on a daily basis and then think you can turn it on and around when you think mr right is coming.if you cant get along in life in general then a relationship is outta the question.and plz stop with the im gonna go outside the race cause the same the problems you have with a black man will come to the service with anybody else,and most men from other cultures wont deal with ur shyt like we do(they,ll beat ur azz and set you ablaze)depending on the culture.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Muzion/ Muzion

    @wickedmercedez

    Do we know each other ? Why this question ? Because, in your laset comment, you described me as if we knew each other for years.

    Since my adolescence, i’ve felt a net attraction to Black women. White Girls (except Italians) just merely attracted my curiosity, while Blacks were always in my eyes ! And over thirty years later, this has never changed.

    Have a happy life with your man !

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/keytoharp/ keytoharp

    Ok, there are plenty good blk men out here,but sometime i feel that some blk woman have a hard time because they dont really know what they want , they rush they dont explore with whats out here, and they get stuck in wanting on thing. Opening up and just seeing whats out there only shows you what you like and dont like, dating outside of your race is not bad but thats what it is dating not marriage,people for some reason feel that dating leads to marriage as soon as you go out with a person, or you automatically have to screw them because your dating.. I love my black man and black men. but wen i was dating i went out on dates with other races just to see if thats something i might like, now for me it was cool and i had fun with some of them but it just wasnt for me as far as some of the personality, i didnt care about the looks people gave me i was out to have a good time and made really good friends even tho things never left the ground., I just feel that some time blk women limit themselves its about find the right person for what you want ,and if you sick of being alone try something else just for the hell of it. if anything you might just have fun..but then again thats just how i feel i got my man and he is blk just yellow as hell,lol but he had everything i was looking for, great person funny, talented, and cute as hell. and convo was the bomb and yrs later its still the bomb.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/crammasters/ crammasters

    to all my beautiful black sisters

    don’t fall for the hype
    it seems you’re the target (victim) of one bad headline after another…

    you are single because you went to the trouble/expense to educate yourselves….

    you are single because u can’t find a good black man…

    you are single because of this, or that and bottom line, it’s all your fault…

    YET one obvious FACT remains unspoken: Finding a compatible partner is hard for everyone — white, black, male, female, gay, straight..

    Otherwise, why are there so many matchmaking and dating sites and companies for whites? Why is the white divorce rate over 50%? And why are so many WW coming to black town (often picking the BW’s rejects)?

    yes, there is a numbers problem in the black community that has NOTHING to do with BW being “too educated,” or being “snobs,” or refusing to date blue-collar BM. You can go to ANY social/economic class and you will find BW married to BW who do not have education or money…

    The REAL problem between the BM and BF started hundreds of years ago…and until we educate ourselves about the unnamed war that is still dividing and conquering us, we will continue seeing sensational articles like this that demoralize our women, demonize the men, and solve NOTHING…

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/MiSz_PiNk_DiamOnd/ MiSz_PiNk_DiamOnd

    Excuse me but what black women are complaining about finding a man? It seems the media is doing ALL the complaining FOR us. “The problem is that when black women arent finding them they are complaining. Black women need to stop looking at black man as the only possibility for a partner. And thats why so many are single” well that’s pretty much one of the ignorant things of read here. So we need to date white men because the right black man hasnt come along yet? RIGHT. So because we choose to love, honor and appreciate the strength and love for our own…we’re BLIND? Haha well then so be it. Im sure there are plenty of strong black women here who appreciate OUR OWN men, and know that a love from a strong black man in INCOMPARABLE than that of ANY race, if YOU cant see that…YOURE the one who’s blind.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/topazangel71/ topazangel71

    Sometimes we fail to get an understand of how serious relationships are. It’s not about finding a Good Man,When Black women decide to get themselves together and create their own estate it’s very hard to find a man who’s not afraid or bother by a women having their own, Most of us dont want a man who lays on the couch and complains especially if their paying all the bills the one’s who seem to have it all together are the worse ones..i dont care if i have 3.25 in the bank he cant get 1.00 from it, there are some men who put on a great show. Its sad that you might not find that perfect mate and so we settle for Ok. Let him empty out the bank account!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/wickedmercedez/ wickedmercedez

    MiSz_PiNk_DiamOnd

    You are completely missing the point. You are stuck on just white men. But there are more that 2 types of races on this planet. And because black women feel that black men are the only ones for them, thats why so many are single/ never married. All I am saying is if you cant or didnt find that black men you so despertely wanted stop complaing to the world. Its your own fault that you didnt find a man to love you. Black men are no better at loving a black women that anyone else. Black men are not more special than anyone else. If black women realize this and open their hearts for real love and not racial love, trust and believe they will find it. Black men dont put black women on a pedalstool and black women need to stop putting black men on one. The only man that should be on a pedalstool should be the one that treats you like a queen, no matter what his skin color is.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Divine_Spirals/ Divine_Spirals

    crammasters speaks the truth: YET one obvious FACT remains unspoken: Finding a compatible partner is hard for everyone — white, black, male, female, gay, straight..

    and thank you, MiSz_PiNK: Excuse me but what black women are complaining about finding a man? It seems the media is doing ALL the complaining FOR us.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/odoggz/ odoggz

    it would seem black women are all into each other, nowadays. Should just skip men all together and munch on each other, or cross over and go to some other races/ethnics. Who cares. So stuck with your heads up your azzes, you can gladly shooo! lol

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/DSBG2006/ DSBG2006

    I’ll say my piece, I can only speak as a young black man. I remember growing up and going to high school and my school was probably majority white because it was a private school. And would look at see how I saw some of the white dudes interact with the white chicks in my school. And saw these dudes dating these women and regardless of what was going on it seemed like there was atleast decent respect for dating and all that.

    I wasn’t really into the white chicks, so wasn’t really going down that road back then. I just remember sayin to myself though. Why is it when me and my boys are trying to deal with black chicks and they are our same race it ain’t the same? These chicks is givin attitude and seem like they basically don’t give a damn and ain’t really trying to deal wit u, LOL. Especially the better lookin ones, regardless of how good i’m lookin that ish started to make me think and got me angry.

    Because I was like atleast a black woman should respect me more than anybody, because we both black. And i’m a black man, hell I respect a black woman because she is above any other woman to me. That always stuck with me and still does to a certain extent. Since all those high school days I have dated lots of other races of women, not saying any are better than the others. But I think if I hadn’t had some of those experiences with seeing the disrespect that I saw of black women towards black men. I don’t even think I would have given a woman of another race really that much of a look. It is what it is I guess, but out the gate I just expected black women to treat black men better than what I saw and that ish turned me off in a certain way.

    I know every woman ain’t the same, but I think some of these problems maybe some black women might be having is as we say “Lay It Down”. Meaning lay it beautiful black women, your fight is not with us black men, let that anger go. We want to love u, if you let us. I know all of us ain’t doin right, but neither are you both aren’t perfect. But we can always respect each other though as men and women and as potential life partners.

    A man already has to make a attempt to talk to you, most men approach women of course. Don’t abuse that, and use that as an opportunity to degrade or embarrass a dude. Especially a black man, why would you even want to do that? I never understood that and still don’t. Still love and honor black women even if they don’t respect us as black men. I remember I was chillen with my cuz the other week, saw this nice lookin woman walking down the street, he was gonna say something to her. Then he was like nah man i’ll pass on that one, certain black women will try to embarrass your ass out in public. I was like damn, if kats gotta think like. That is a damn shame, I could see if he was talking about a white chick or something, but this is a black woman. What the hell? It’s bullish man. This don’t make no sense for black men and women to have these distorted views of each other which in turn screws of the relationships or potential relationships we have with each other.

    Just had to get that off my chest, hope it made sense. Straight from the heart. Peace!!!!!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Babyface843/ Babyface843

    here we go again..come on the liberal media thinks we are dumb..more black people prefer to be with each other. There is more black men in college then there is in prison. They always try to divide an conquer..

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Brayn804/ Brayn804

    Dang, she’s speaking the truth.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Divine_Spirals/ Divine_Spirals

    DSB, regarding your point, here are some suggestions for men in general. The next time you see a beautiful black woman walking by look her in the eye and very clearly and cheerfully say “good morning/afternoon, evening” with zero expectations of getting her number or what not. For some reason, I find that a lot of black men think that women are supposed to be flattered or tickled by sexual approaches and cat calls. Yes, she may be black like you, but that doesn’t give a stranger free reign to talk to another stranger (who happens to be black) any old way. If she still gives attitude, then she is genuinely rude. However, the polite ones will appreciate you giving them the same amount of normal respect you would give any stranger.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/NOitall/ NOitall

    I love all my black women…even if I don’t like your azz. I went to a predominately white school and say what u want but they stuck together and actually had a sense of superiority over us. Love your people cause they dont!!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/lstofadienbreed/ lstofadienbreed

    It is funny how we all tend to feed into this same B.S. topic about color in relationships. All the time the blogs say “black women ain’t and black men are..,” and ” black men ain’t and black women are…,” which only stirs up the whole controversial topic anyway. Itis sad to see this happening. People say it has nothing to do with race, well “kind of, sorta, not realy.” As a race, we have regressed instead of progressing. We are just too selfish. For some reason we have a problem with learning, or maybe not so much as learning, but actually applying what we’ve learned. I enjoy this topic. I like hearing both sides from all walks. I often hear the same from single women, regardless of color. They always point the fingure at the world. Those wome always seem to be the same “stuck up”(well at least try to be), enlarged ego, no grasp on reality type women. They can’t find a man because they’ve never experienced a man. When they do find one, they try to manipulate the relationship. Then you get mad at us cause we’re not interested in you. So it’s not the fact that you ” can’t find a man,” it’s that you can’t get a man.”

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/odoggz/ odoggz

    @Divine_Spirals
    Don’t know what world you live in, but in NY, CA and FL, something as simple as doing your suggestion, gets you stupid stares from black women: “The next time you see a beautiful black woman walking by look her in the eye and very clearly and cheerfully say “good morning/afternoon, evening” with zero expectations of getting her number or what not.”
    Yeah you shouldn’t expect to hear a “good morning/afternoon, evening” back either, it seems. lol The problem out in these ‘progressive states’, is the women (mostly 40 and younger) are so full of themselves and have so many stupid ideas already in their heads, that they turn your simple “hello” or holding of a door opened for them, as things you’re doing to only get a rap with them. THAT is the problem. They’re so self centered and egotistical that they think every BLACK man who does something nice, is trying to get some poon. So they rush to open a door for themselves, to beat you to the opportunity, and let the door close in a black man’s face, or they give him a “Negro please” look, when he says “good day, evening” whatever. I’ve had my old chicks give me the same speech you gave here, so I’ve demonstrated my claim about these women today to these older black coworkers, and friends, many times. These fancy black chicks over-priced themselves out of the market, trying to fake like they’re so advanced, that a simple low-profiled, low-threat “HI” is not even good enough as greeting. lol

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  • http://www.blackplanet.com/MiSz_PiNk_DiamOnd/ MiSz_PiNk_DiamOnd

    Odoggz, you further solidify my opinion that you are just as unattractive inside, as you are outside.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/raymondowens/ raymondowens

    i know white women who are professional and they are married to white men who have blue collar jobs. so, what are these so-called “successful” black women saying, you have to have degree to be decent, caring and hussband material? i think not.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Loverofu15/ Loverofu15

    I consider myself a good, decent, single blackman I`ve never been abusive disrespectful to any black woman who has ever been in my life it is my hope to one day be married to a woman whom I love and respect….I don`t hold high expectations on my potential future wife only that she holds the same expectations in our relationship as I do(on the same page)Things such as her making more or less money than me…how beautiful she is (as long as she`s beautiful to me)is not Important to me… I don`t care to be with a woman who feels she has to be handled by a man…I do care to be with a woman that`s willing to get to know me and me her a woman who doesn`t feel we need to get married after a week of dating (oh yes it has happened…more than once)…A relationship where we both know and are willing to accept our place.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Kashi101/ Kashi101

    it’s actually laughable reading all the remedies concoctions and formulas of suggestions from celebrities, “experts”, and others

    there is no secret recipe. dating is a long grueling job/process. if you don’t see it like that, you’re likely stuck w/ the mentality of a teen. you really have to wait until you find someone youre enthralled w/ who’s just as enthralled w/ you. it can take a short while or a long one

    there are the usual job distractions like wasting time. “hiring” a brotha that does not meet the qualifications. you know the one who has 3 baby mamas, a criminal history rap sheet, and tattoos from the face down. women “employ” these brothas waisting time b/c they still end up having to fire them or see them quit to have to seek new applicants all over again. lets not employ the waste of time. do not even invite them for an interview

    and then theres the infamous distraction of sex. it’s 99 times to 1 taking you nowhere. so unless youve got 100 brothas to sleep w/ stop spreading your legs for any and every nigga that takes you out and/or spends a months worth of time w/ you or allows you to so affectionately call him “my boyfriend” whateva

    and of course these tips are only for those who don’t know gods plan or care to follow it. ya’ll need lots and lots of tips and advice! good luck w/ it

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Muzion/ Muzion

    Is that possible that we all are in the left field ?

    Would it be possible that this topic refers MUCH MORE abour AGE rather than race ?

    Let me explain: In high school, i had absolutely NO success with White girls. I wasn’t an “alpha man”, i was not rich, didn’t own a car (VERY important for girls…) and wasn’t an adonis… White girls didn’t pay ANY attention at me and even mocked on me… On the other side, i was MUCH MORE treated as a human with Black girls. Being shy, i took a long time before getting a relation with one, but they actually accept to discuss, dance and have fun with me, which was an IMPOSSIBLE task with White girls.

    With time, i also realised that getting an interesting contact (without necessarily getting into intimacy) with an eldier woman was far easier than with the younger. It seems at my eyes that the younger women are much more interested by the look and by $$$$$$ than grown-ups. Is it because being nicknamed “princesses” all their childhood make them to look at a prince ??

    I don’t know…

    But i saw that with years and maturity, women realize that they can have a really satisfactory life with a simple honest worker without the need to get that monarch.

    Waiting for your replies !!! Have a good day !

    P.S.: I’m White.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/gentelmenclub/ gentelmenclub

    ODOGGS IS RIGHT,,,A BLACK WOMAN IS HARD TO PLEASE,,THEIR IS A LOT OF ISSUES THERE,,TOO MANY TO REALLY TALK ABOUT,,BESIDES THEY DONT WANT TO HEAR THE TRUTH ANYWAY. DEVINE

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/gentelmenclub/ gentelmenclub

    WOW,,,PANTHERG08, NOITALL, MYBEATZGOOD, DUNCAN69,,,I COMMEND YOU BROTHERS FOR SAYING THE TRUTH AND KEEPING IT REAL,,,THANKS DEVINE

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/pantherg08/ pantherg08

    @DSBG2006

    Ur preaching to the choir homie!!!!!!!!!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/odoggz/ odoggz

    @MiSz_PiNk_DiamOnd
    Well thank you for judging me, I appreciate it. Looking good yourself! :P

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/DaintyJen/ DaintyJen

    LMAO @ “Black Women Can’t Find Good Men? Oh Really?”….OMG YAWN at this topic. At the end of the day, MOST OF YOU are just spitting out EXPERIENCES that aren’t representative of all black men and women.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Muzion/ Muzion

    @DaintyJen:

    Seven pages of comments/replies… The subject is not as yawning as you might think…

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  • http://www.blackplanet.com/jazzwatch/ jazzwatch

    We Black men could have a good job. has a degree, has love for their fellow men and women, and STILL be bashed by someone..we’re not perfect, but the ladies aren’t either….

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/BaataDane/ BaataDane

    whats “successful?”

    Black women should stop playing as well as recognize willie lynch.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/soultry-soul/ soultry-soul

    This topic is the silliest thing I’ve heard in a long time. As a seasoned Peach of 45 yrs.of age I meet men everywhere I go; Safeway, gas stations, stop lights, on my way to work, whereever. Now, I’ve been very fortunate to have been surrounded by Strong, Intelligent Black Men – white and blue collar positions that know how to conduct themselves in reference to being a gentlemen in the presence of a woman. I strongly believe that women are expecting of a potential man that they can not fulfill themselves and in the cases where they are – they are asking way too much of a potential man. (Chili – TLC is a prime example) It’s not about equal but more about fairness…if a man will treat you with the love, admiration, respect and loyalty what else are you seeking (oh, you want him to have money). Do you want him to have more money than you,or do you want him to have all the money and give it to you? Does he have to have a degree with a white collar position in a high rise corporate office. If you are working as a customer service rep., or Nurses Aid…you need to change your priorities and enroll in a top notch University, that is if you want things to be equal as far as status goes.

    A Brutha can say hello to a sistah, she will look at his clothes and if he has on sweat pants she may not respond to his greeting. He may have on sweats that day, but may have a closet full of suits for the appropriate time (feel me). You will be surprised what you learn about a person (man or woman) if you take the time to have a conversation. Hello cost nothing, conversation is alway free.

    Sistahs let’s not let Steve Harvey, Essence Mag. or white society use us as data on “Why Black Women Can’t Find Good Men”.

    This is just my thoughts, and not to offend anyone!!!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/CAROLINAGIRLSRDABEST/ CAROLINAGIRLSRDABEST

    KML at this topic and Dr.Boyce Watkins has a few good pointers and what he should have said,about Steve was no disrespect but,the man has been married 3 times. I don’t agree with some of the things he say because only you can speak on what you feel about another person and yourself when it come to relationships. Its alot of GOOD BLACK MEN AND WOMEN out here in this world-you just got to realize them and see them in your face. Alot of black men and women will let a good man/woman pass them by because they are looking for what Hollywood think is a dime or how a dime piece suppose to look,with money. And thats not true-money can’t buy you true love nor real friends it may seem like it but,let the money leave and watch how everybody else will. I have said,it time and time a guy I would rather have a poor man than a rich man. If he is poor he will know what it take to make it out here in this world and if he is rich he want things giving to him or think he can just buy it. Thats not how life and love is a give and take. Meaning if you can’t take what you give out in a relationship then don’t give it and expect things your way. Thats why im single and loving it but,that do not mean im bitter,hard to get along with,and can’t keep a man nor have any STD. It just mean that-my first/love and I didn’t make it and we have 1 child together and we still love and respect eachother but,just not inlove. I loved the way I am as a person and I threat SOME people with respect but,if they cross me-I can be a real b!tch. So far that part of me has not came out and my-life is great. So I would say do as you feel and live your life how you want and respect your mate. Noone else can make that choice for you.(JMO)

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Maybeu3/ Maybeu3

    This has been the most intelligent post I’ve seen on BP in a long time…good men are out here and get bypassed for whatever reason…each point you made was quite valid…

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Maybeu3/ Maybeu3

    @ Soultry-Soul…thank you for thoughtful response…it gets tiresome when sistas are just on the attack instead of actually listening first… :-)

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/soultry-soul/ soultry-soul

    @ Mabeu3 – My pleasure. If a black woman does not stand up for the black man he will continue to be demoralized by all society…even our own.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/odoggz/ odoggz

    @jazzwatch
    How dare you even suggest black women aren’t perfect. See, that’s your problem right there! Won’t give credit where credit is due! lol

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/jazzwatch/ jazzwatch

    odoggz, I’m not perfect, you’re not perfect, NOBODY id; I won’t kiss anybody’s ass (unless it’s during mooshy (lovemanking) time)…. show me a person (man or woman) that’s perfect and I’ll show you a person with a ulcer with the size of one of Janet Jackson’s boobs……

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/jazzwatch/ jazzwatch

    I would want a sista , with humor. warmthm, intelligence, strong (but not arrogent or drama laden), willing to have kids (I don’t have ANY), she don’t have to be a HOTTIE, but I don’t want a Aunt Ester or Precious either……

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/charlesbeas/ charlesbeas

    I agree with everything said, I think it was an insightful and thought provoking piece. I just wonder if any sistas will really take heed to what this brother was saying. The biggest thing that drains our relationships today, is this overwelming spirit of “selfishness”and that exists among men and women. This attitude that the world revolves around us and our impulsive lusts. Listen to the mentality that some of these songs plant into our minds. “Get mine” Well that translates into every realm of our lives. Go to work “gettin mine” school, many even go to church with an attitude of “gettin mine” And then of course it spills over into dating. When you look accross the table at someone looking back at you who’s clearly thinking; your just an avenue for them to “Get Theirs”! No Thanks!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/charlesbeas/ charlesbeas

    90% of women date guys for sex, or money. Or both, but most ladies will go to their graves denying that thier choices in men boil down to a couple of shallow compartments of manhood. because a woman believes she must mantain the “moral highground” over a man. So she doesnt want to percieve herself as that shallow. But she is. Time for a reality check ladies.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/winter41OH/ winter41OH

    clapping!this conversation didnt turn into a interacial dating/marrying conversation.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Muzion/ Muzion

    @winter41OH

    I’m in an interracial union since 20 years… That’s why i posted here !

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  • http://www.blackplanet.com/waynelaboy/ waynelaboy

    who can write a book if they themselves were in the process or are now divorced? all they can do is tell you what not to do in order to not end up where they are. black women should study the lady who started with her boyfriend in a hooptie with a hole in the side of the passenger door and being dirt poor as she quietly inspired him to be all he can be and support him w/out complaint. after years of relentless inspiration and struggle she is now the first lady of the so -called free world. no instant success just patience. hell i catch the bus to 2 jobs every day(except sat.), and have more $ than many people and their mate does but they’ll never know it. if it takes $ or a whip to get 1 or go to another race to accept me then hey, i’m a dude and need mine. so while she preferably is a minority if i have to go to a pink toe…..

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/neveneraCT/ neveneraCT

    A few points, considering that 60% of black women are not married, does that mean that there are no good women in that 60%? The truth is that that figure is much smaller for white women and those women choose alpha males, have pissing contests and so on. Not all black women are alike and not all fit the stereotypes that you put out there.

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