I could say the SAME things of what I want in a Black woman, too, so it goes BOTH ways, IJS…….

ANOTHER bashing of the darker hue article….who’s gonna FALL for it????? Not you……….

Not with a triffling sista gurl!!!

Someone actually sat their tail down and spent way-too-much time to do this fhuk’d up presentation.

I’ll tell you where some are…living within my family, work for the same company as I do, walking amongst us everyday at the grocery stores, malls, gyms, and events.

No woman should equate a GOOD BLACK MAN as not having any children. The creator of this presentation must be aware that things happen between two people, and just because he’s fathered a child does not mean he’s not a GOOD BLACK MAN. that would be one attribute that can describe him as being a GOOD BLACK MAN – handling his responsibilities ensuring his child is well taken care of and spending time, supporting, nurturing and loving his child.

In the 1st slide it states: In most mangeable terms…for very 100 Sistas there are about 87 Brothas. Okay – the way the world is now 23 of the Sistas are dykes -so all is good on the equation (you feel me).

My Vietamese Workers informed me…that tradiction vietamese life-style – are those that date outside their race are disowned and a dishonor/embarassement to the entire family. Can never be welcomed back into it at NO COST. No Communication whatsoever.

I never read so much stupid bull s**t in my life,why do those fake jews at NewsSlum spent so much time worrying about black people.

Up your ass and around the corner b***h!

is this life? seriously???

so i guess black women gonna die alone lol. you’re white boyfriend uncle sam is tried of paying for you.

I actually met a good guy who is African (from Ghana–and no, he’s NOT a scam artist or an illegal). Being with him was the last thing that I expected because, by the time I met him, I had been recently disappointed by three other guys…I simply had enough. I saw this man like all the others and told him as much. He still called…checked up on me to see how I was doing until I told him that I didn’t want to be bothered with him or anyone. He respected my wishes and for two weeks, he didn’t contact me.

However, one day, he called me and invited me on a date. I reluctantly agreed. We met outside a cafe and I noticed that he wasn’t very attractive. However, as we talked, it was the little things he did and things that he said that piqued my interest…for instance, the wind had tipped over my cup and had blown my napkin away. He went and got me another and set everything on the table for me. Later, when we went to the movie, he massaged my shoulders and pulled me close to him while we watched the film. It was these small gestures that made me accept a second date with him…

We have been together for a few months now…I admit, he’s not rich but he’s generous to me and shares with me what he can. He isn’t an intellectual, but he’s wise and he wants to know about me and what makes me tick. And now that we’ve been together (albeit a short time), I think he is the sexiest man in the world…When we make love, the beads of sweat shine on his dark skin like stars in the sky and his muscular arms protect me at night. And his hands have wiped away tears and prepared food for me. More than I can say about many men that I’ve dated, but this one makes up for what other men have lacked–and in spades.

I’M RIGHT HERE , GITTIN’ SOME HEAD !!!

The greatest enemies of black women in the last century have been liberalism and the sexual revolution.

Can you PLEASE tell’em and his friends to STOP sending me notes. Ghana is all up on BlackPlanet…

wow…depressing for black women…i’m thankful that i am a single, straight, decent shape, working (over 50k), never ever been to jail, graduated black man with NO children. this is for all the women who like to believe in the misconception that there are no “good black men”…we are out here. peace.

(PTSD) Post traumatic slave syndrome is the cause ….and this IS the effect. Thanks Caucasian folks for teaching us and instilling in us the greatest moral and ethical standards! (sarcasm) As a result, just look at us now..(more sarcasm….but in most sarcasm there’s some truth). Sigh….

TOTALLY IN AGREEMENT

I guess according to this article if a black woman wants a black man she can’t be that picky.

These people aren’t too bright since they didn’t consider the fact that many of these guys who fall into different categories here could be all the same guy.

Look at you now – please do not count US/POWER HOUSES in your sarcasm post. The caucasians don’t have a dayum thing on me…nor my family. We’ve fought our battles and understand with much appreciation that BLACK IS THE BEST THING and that our BLACK MEN ARE OUR FIRST KINGS.

No sarcasm here!

Someone didn’t take statistics in college. Even if they did they likely failed.

I WANT A WOMAN WHO DOESN’T HAVE ANY KIDS

A WOMAN WHO DOESN’T HAVE ANY MALE OR FEAMALE FRIENDS

A WOMAN WHO WILL ONLY OBEY ME

A WOMAN WHO LOOKS GOOD IN SHAPE WITH A FAT A SS

A WOMAN WHO BELIEVES IN ME

A WOMAN WHO IS WILLING TO FIGHT FOR ME & KNOWS HOW TO FIGHT IN EVERY WAY

A WOMAN BLACK WOMAN WHO KNOW HER BLACK HISTORY DEEPLY

A WOMAN THAT WILL ONLY HAVE SEX WITH ME

A WOMAN WHO MAKES AT LEAST $30,000 A YEAR .

I don’t know about this study, but I think that we have some of our priorities screwed. Instead of focusing on how many “good” men are out there, why don’t we start focusing on how to raise good men and women…why not focus on that?!

Dang, I need to get back out there in the hunt?

Ok ok, if you are going to say something that profound and unfounded, please explain

Man you would better asking for three wishes form a genie.

What? explain yourself fool!

skewed, skewed, skewed!!!

I am loving you sister, what’s your Number

The stats are pretty straight forward

If you are a good black male, no kids, college educated, no prison record….Good hunting

Wishful thinking

Don’t Kill the Messenger

Here’s the thing…Black woman should not allow this type of bull-shyt to enter their minds of internalizing what the yt man/society/and that of slave minded negros use to brain & yt wash them. Furthermore…stop worrying about which black man is dating yt women – count that shyt up to him being a donation and a tax right-off. You can’t make a Black Man want you, nor love you…it’s in his DNA to regardingless whom he’s with. That’s his own personally struggle that he will have to fight with to be free from. MOVE ONE THERE”S SO MANY OTHERS!

Everyone walking as the right to be picky. It’s okay to want a Black man that is made up of your their own resumes of decent morals and values.

I strongly believe that Seasoned Sistahs should not be so bent on a mans looks (what a man looks like) especially if that Sistah has no plans on having another children. If the man is treating you like a Queen, respecting you like the ruler of the house and has place you above all others – let that one slide…and be a statistic (You Feel Me)…

“The criteria was primarily based on data compiled on whether the eligible Black men were heterosexual, good-looking, successful, or childless.”

so these things are what make a “good” black man? lol…a straight man who is fine and rich with no kids can still treat his woman like s**t. women who list superficial “qualities” as their main standards when looking for a man are bound to be disappointed. the man who will treat you like a queen may have a lil’ gut, or may have a child, or may work a blue collar job…

granted we all have certain superficial preferences, but don’t become so fixated on those preferences that you become blinded to REAL good men. oh, and make sure you’re a REAL good woman first…good men only desire their equal or greater.

anyone who is remotely influenced by the content of this article ought to be ashamed of themselves…don’t believe the hype, folks. this is just another attempt to divide and conquer.

I’m feeling your list and understand your point: “We can ask for the world and place our sipulations on the table – it does not mean we will get want we’ve requested.”

Now…If I’m incorrect in paraphrasing your point then I will have to say that your #2 & 3 requests makes you sound more like Ike Turner, which I will understand if you remain alone…solely on those two request. All the others are well within your reach of seeking a QUEEN.

Because the focus is MEN…you can’t raise a grown ass man.

I definitely understand what your typing…but we must stick to the topic.

Liberalism gave us “no-fault divorce.” Nothing destroys wealth (nor deters men from marriage) than divorce, especially our current system of laws. Liberalism has also wreaked havoc on social mores–leading to the sexual revolution–which is why in the last fifty years we have seen an explosion in the unwed pregnancy rates and abortion rates, especially among black women.

Liberalism gave us LBJ’s so-called Great Society which has led to widespread government dependency. Because women can depend on the government to fill the role of provider, men (but black men especially) are seen as no more than transient sexual partners and sperm donors.

Liberalism gave us minimum wage laws (which were originally put in place, in part, because white union workers didn’t want blacks competing with them by offering to work for lower wages.) Liberalism gave us the insane immigration polcies of the sixties and eighties…and so, inevitably, black men have suffered from rising rates of unemployment in this country.

Liberalism and it’s spawn (feminism, sexual revolution, etc.) have rendered black men useless among women but for one thing: sex. No wonder young black men have been so demoralized that they cling to sports and the barbaric machismo of thug culture. Those are the only places in our society where they can still feel like MEN. Of course, this culture breeds violence, which leads to people being uneducated, unskilled, and imprisoned, and therefore unemployable.

And so, black women end up with slim pickings–often settling for men with less education and less job skills than what they have.

The only thing I see that would truly help the black community (and don’t get me wrong, the white community needs this too) is a cultural revolution based on traditional morality rooted in Christian teachings. Change must come from within the black community. Whites, whether they be politicians or taxpayers, can’t solve this, no matter how much money or affirmative action policies they throw at the problem. And it is downright wrong, especially for whites, to even think that they can. It’s called the soft bigotry of low expectations coupled with the insane policies of equalizing outcomes.

they list wikipedia and Dr. boyce watkins as sources for this BS

it’s a white woman name meggin sanez behind this mess.
http://www.bestblackdatingsites.org/about/

Straight forward to who ,you?

1-800-4MY-King :)

“If you don’t understand the system of racism, what it is and how it works, everything that you do understand will only confuse you.”- NeelyFuller Jr.

The greatest enemy of Black women is the Black woman herself. Most of you have been brainwashed by this mindset of white people and thier expectation s of “who” you should be.

And if you believe this bulls**t data, you “deserve” to be single for the rest of your life, without ever enjoying the fulfillment of living with/marrying/settling your desired Black male mate.

I’m not saying this with spite, but as an acknowledgement of how severe my generation has been “brainwashed” into letting this bulls**t data influence who were are and how we conduct ourselves culturally and socially. It is ironic that the preceding generations of Black men and Black women never had these types of unnecessary dilemmas and produced solid, binding relationships.

Two words. Bull and s**t.

I have been making at least 5oK all of my adult life and 100K for the last few years. Trying to find a black woman without any kids and who doesn’t want to party all the time and who doesn’t want to spend every dime you make and who doesn’t want to create a lot of drama every day has been a monumental task.

I finally had to go to another country and marry a woman I barely know just so my sisters will not get any of my money. One sister only dates and marries white guys. The other one, I have never seen her with a man. Both are 300 lbs and think all black men are no good.

Every cloud has a silver lining, though. What I figured out after many years is that the smoking hot girls are the only ones worth pursuing. Yeah, they are nutty as hell; but you don’t get near as much drama. Leave the single mothers alone. Not only do you have to deal with the kids; but you have the crazy ex and the stretch marks. Nothing spoils the mood like stretch marks. That is a constant reminder that another man has been there before you.

30K???? Are you kidding me? A lot of black women want somebody making 200K.

Obey you?! Bruh you can’t be serious!

Straight forwardly stupid that is. They didn’t even conduct their study right. I mean seriously they just took a bunch of random statistics and started subtracting. I’m surprised they didn’t come up with something like “For every 100 black women there are -56 decent brothas” with these researching “methods”.

these stats don’t qualify for any publication. Some women will read these stats and eat this propaganda up for dinner. The definition of a good black man in the material woman eyes are these stats above. Everyone wants to mold the black man into their expectations. We always have to put on a show for the world. I know alot of Black Women or women in general that are only looking for money. They find a good man and mess him over. Where are those stats?

I am in love with you baby! Need more sisters with your positive attitude.

Wow…as I read your post I determine that you perpetuate this crazy, unfounded, 5th grade twisted presentation, denigrating to Sistahs report.

You seriously went to another country married an immigrant just keep a sistah from having your money. What’s wrong with saying NO. Come now…

I pose the question to you: What type of women were you drawing your way?

I only hope that you’re trying to be funny.

Only 3 good Black wo-men for every 100 Black Men!

KEEPING IT RIGHTEOUS! I HATE TO THIS , BUT NEGROID WO-MEN ARE FUKED UP!

WHERE THE REAL BLACK LADIES AT?

Agree with the exception – my greatest enemy is not that of my Sistah’z it is the yt nature (yt folks) that consistantly displaces my KINGS AND QUEENS in labelled categories that are untrue.

ROFL…you have to love this crappy site. In case the 10-15 articles they bombard us with about how doomed black relationships are doesn’t get your attention, they are now including graphics! Look black women! You are going to die alone because you didn’t get yourself a white or other man! Yeah, I’m too done.

All I can add it – you can word your thoughts anyway your form to do so. Using the liberalism as a front and spawn that has destroyed the relationship between the Black Man and Woman is bull-shyt.

From my life, family, and associates as well as being a 47 y o seasoned sistah – every one surrounding me is loved by, procreated by and married by KINGS AND QUEENS. The information you provided has been internalized within – set out by yt society. The truth is not difficult to comprehend…the brain forces beliefs. My brain has proven to me the truth and belief that there is a QUEEN for every KING.

Uh, none of these things are mutually exclusive.

If you don’t understand why that matters, chances are you wouldn’t qualify for a “good” man anyway.

Read the comments. Think about it, they post something negative and the discussion turns into a black woman vs. black man argument. How many black men are calling foul? How many black women? How many of them are taking this obviously divisive article and calling it what it is? How many idiots are actually believing these stats? THAT’s why they post crap like this. They know that at the end of the day, we’ll be at each others throats and not paying attention to what’s really going on.

Anecdotes do not evidence make.

Look at the big picture. The black community of America is crumbling, and non-liberal blacks FIFTY YEARS AGO predicted this would happen based on liberal policies that were enacted. I will never forget a video I watched of a young Thomas Sowell warning what new welfare policies would do to “the poor.” And now, when you look at the numbers specifically and society in general, he was so damn right.

Standing up Daddy, and smiling full of BLACK PRIDE:)

Are you included in the stats Natassia? Are you a Sistah rocking a yt women’s face or are you a yt woman attempting to enter into Sistah’z minds in hopes of them believing the bull shyt article (IJA)?

I do not even know a Black Women that’s on welfare, however, I do know a lot that are in solid relationships, married to BLACK MEN and have Black children some grown college graduates (such as mine). I do not know a single Black Women that has/is dating or lusting after a yt man or other races. What do you say to the libral policies reading my statement as a Black Women.

I do not allow stats of any kind to enter into my mind…because I’m not able to travel this entire country to interview everyone and obtain the type of numbers needed. I look at my surrounds – that’s how my evidence is gathered. That’s were my truth settles and my beliefs become very clear in combination with my teachings, spirit and soul.

Society is unable to penetrate me – I’m way too strong willed and minded of a Queen:)

How is this even allowed to make it to net. This article is ridiculous.

I married a black woman. There are more black people in South America than North America. My wife is half my age, built like a brick s**thouse; and there are 10 more just like her that want to take her place.

When I relocate I am going to focus my attention on trying to get more black men 40 and older who like me have held a job all of their adult life to come down and see that there is a different way.

Don’t worry. The article says there are not that many eligible black mmen.

Wow this is interesting, I wonder did the consider the ghetto, the fluffy’s, the sha nay-nay’s and the greedy and needy. Now I’m willing to be that that the 3% for the men would swing all the way to 99.9%.

as ghetto as i think dat list was its about right lol i would like to see da opposite i know it aint dat many good black women now days

DAMN NEWS NUMBER ONE FOR BASHING BROTHERS AS IF THE WORLD DONT HATE ON US ENOUGH, YOU GO AND MAKE UP SUM BS STATS BASED ON DATING WEBSITES?!?! WHEN MOST OF THOSE SITES ARE FOR CALL GIRLS! IM SURE THEY WOULD HAVE ALL THE RICH SINGLE BLACK MEN ON THEIR BUYING P***Y! SORRY WHITE PEOPLE THATS WHAT YOU GUYS DO CAUSE YOU LACK! MOST RICH SINGLE BLACK MEN DONT HAVE A SOCIAL PROBLEM SO IM SURE THEY ARE OUT IN SOCIETY LIKE A REGULAR ADULT INSTEAD OF HIDING BEHIND A COMPUTER BECAUSE THEY HAVE A COMPLEX.
HOW MANY RICH SINGLE CHILDLESS EDUCATED “WOMEN’ ARE OUT THEIR? THAT DOESNT SELL HER BODY FOR MONEY, OHH THAT DOESNT HATE ON HER OWN KIND, HAS LOVE FOR HER BOTHER? S**T THAT LIST IS LESS AND FAR IN BETWEEN!!! WHO EVER WROTE THIS ARTICLE FROM ME TO YOU EAT MY LONG CROOKED C**K!

Bull Shxxt!!!

Any chance you can try the same with women? How many have never been stripperS? How many have never been a jumpoff? How many women have had at most one, but preferably no, baby fathers? I want to see how many “good” black women there are for those 3%.

With all due respect, the people at BestBlackDatingSites who authored this graphic are nit-wits.

This is a retread of a standard joke (that concludes “I am the only one supporting the economy”) . It is based on the failure to understand that these categories are not independent.

Take three as an example: education, job status and income.
Lack of education, according to this silly site, rules out 100%-82.1% = 17.9% of the candidates.
Lack of a job rules out 35% of those that remain, leaving 65% of 82.1%.
Finally, the desire for someone who makes $30K/year rules out 100%-22% = 78% of those.
82.1% x 65% x 22% = 11.7%

The implication is that only 11.7% of Black males pass these three criteria. In fact many more do.

The fallacy is that the same folks that don’t have an education are often many of the same who have no job. And those without jobs obviously aren’t earning $30K/year.

Soultry has no worries at all (PLEASE Trust and Believe)…

Half your age and built like a brick s**thouse – any woman that has you must be extremely proud to have you describe her in such a manner (which does not equate to a GOOD WOMAN nor MAN)…and please do not take on the specialty role – you are not the only man that has worked all their adult life – the ones I know found their Queens here in the US.

Keepin on Keepin on!

It is great to have dating standards.. As a successful black man, I myself have similar standards for women that I would like to date. For example, I don’t date women with kids.. no matter how FINE she is….

The thing, however, is that I have encountered some women who do not MEET the standards that they are looking for.

In reference to the article: There are numerous good black men out there. Some women just do not know where to look or want the “thug” , “baller”

So I guess this article is to help encourage that whiteman/blackwoman bullsh..! GTFOH! I don’t care if all the black men in the world disapeared into thin air, I still wouldn’t be interested.

Good grief, being confronted with such an impressive command of the English language and proper grammar, I am momentarily rendered speechless (a temporary problem, I assure you, as most folks who know me would heartily agree.)

I am not trying to enter people’s minds. Is that what you think dialogue and discussion and commentary are for–entering people’s minds? Ms. Soul, I cannot in good conscience believe younger that dumb. So, I am going to assume that you are simply trying to goad me.

Welfare takes many forms: TANF, WIC, Section 8 vouchers, EBT cards, free or reduced-price school lunches, EITC refunds that exceed federal taxes paid, utility assistance, SNAP, Medicaid, SCHIP, etc.

I do not believe that you don’t know a single black woman who does not take advantage of one or more of these government programs. I think you are lying, or maybe you are just plain ignorant. Or perhaps you are living in one of those few middle class black enclaves where successful black people have managed to avoid living near the urban black underclass.

Unlike you, Ms. Soul, I live in a town filled with poor black people. The local elementary school is a Title 1 school. No, that doesn’t mean the kids are doing well academically, it means most of the children there can’t afford to buy school lunches at full price (or at any price at all.) It also means there are a lot of minority children.

Maybe you need to get your ignorant black self over to a poor town or inner city and see what the majority of America’s black citizens experience.

Younger= you are. My handheld device is cranky.

All I hear is a clever pro-fascist rant that ignores personal freedom. Liberalism is ALSO responsible for the slaves being freed, the end of legalized segregation, implementation of Civil Rights laws and continued opposition to the conservative mindset that fought to keep all of those things from taking place. A little detail I’m sure Natassia would prefer remains forgotten.

“No fault divorce” is irrelevant for people who want to stay together and is CRUCIAL for people trapped in marriages to people who have been deceptive, who are abusive and who have violated their marriage vows.

The same “government dependency” that these people are all gung-ho about getting rid of is the same government dependency that keeps countless people from ending up homeless and dying in the streets of America from hunger. But in their minds, that’s a small price to pay to keep a handful of people from gaming the system. People starving & homeless vs. a few people taking advantage and their moral compass tells them “screw the poor” JUST because they equate poor with Black and imagine they’re sticking it to US.

Arguments against minimum wage laws (or the cart-before-the-horse reasoning for their implementation) don’t even merit a response. The ridiculousness of opposing such a thing is self-evident.

Read between the lines and you’ll see that her arguments only hold weight for the type of woman who doesn’t give a damn about her man anyway. “Liberalism and it’s spawn (feminism, sexual revolution, etc.) have rendered black men useless among women but for one thing: sex.” Which REALLY means: “Liberalism has reduced the motivation for a woman to marry a man for anything BESIDES LOVE”!

Conservatives have always come up with clever ways to make freedom sound like evil to further their own agenda. It’s as false as the lip-service they give to “Christian teachings” when EVERYTHING CHRIST DID AND TAUGHT is the BASIS for liberalism. JESUS WAS A LIBERAL. So isn’t upholding anti-liberal ideas the same as upholding an “anti-Christ” ideology?

what a profound post…this sums up everything.

You’re already CHOSEN Mommy!

BLACK MEN NEED MORE ‘LADIES’ LIKE YOU TO STAND UP!

You are so right, I was just discussing this with a friend. We (male/female) or now setting our standards by the European standards of what is desirable in a mate.

To futher destroy us. They want to see black men and women spew hate at each other. Not getting it from me.

If I hear another a study on Black women and Black men, I’m going to f**kin scream!

Now, right now I’m enjoying the single life. But all I want is a all around good guy. One that doesn’t disrespect women, who is down to earth and who is always trying to improve himself. I don’t think thats impossible to find–I have them all up in my family.

SimplyComplex_87 said it perfectly
“a straight man who is fine and rich with no kids can still treat his woman like s**t.”

THERE ARE GOOD BLACK MEN OUT THERE AND THERE ARE GOOD BLACK WOMEN OUT THERE, STOP FEEDING INTO THE HYPE. Whatever made you think there is no good BM or there is no good BW is bcuz of your own experiences.

My only concern is why is the media obsessing over who black women should date?
This whole propaganda to push BW to non black men is getting ridiculous.

1-900-I-WILL-B-FREE, HUH?

JUST PLAYIN’ … YOU’RE THE QUEEN, BABY!

Lmao!
Girl, you crazy. Haha
I know how you feel, I love my brothas!

I don’t think you know what fascism is. If you did, you’d be ranting against folks like our current president, and many of the ones before him, who have bred government with large private corporations and seek to nationalize entire industries rather than spouting out such ignorance as your reply to me.

Once upon a time, the hungry sought food from family, friends, neighbors, churches, and charitable organizations. They would ASK for assistance. I have never known a church to turn a hungry person away. I have never known anyone who would not buy a hungry man a meal if he asked for it.

That’s why I think your claim that people would starve and die without government programs is bogus. Most Americans are too charitable to allow such a thing to happen. Did you know that we are the most charitable people in the world?

But our charity has turned safety nets into hammocks and hand-ups to hand-outs. We’ve given out too many fish without requiring that men learn how to fish first.

If we curbed our immigration for a while (forever?), mandated E-Verify, abolished the minimum wage, and ended the atrocious business-killing regulations like Obamacare, black unemployment would decrease dramatically. But at the same time we have to stop rewarding bad decision making like promiscuity, unwed pregnancy, and divorce. We make divorce too easy in this country. And we have to further incentivize things like marriage because married people tend to acc**ulate more wealth and their children generally do better.

Christ is not a social liberal. He is the Son of God, and he set the standard for moral living. I do not think he would want us to reward sin as our government has so gladly done for decades.

You have the freedom to do what you want Badda. And I should have the freedom to not pay for it, including any children you bring forth into the world. HOWEVER, should you bring a child into this world who you cannot or will not care for, I will gladly adopt him as would so many other people in this country. The waiting list to adopt babies is miles long.

Pray tell, if you can’t live off of a minimum wage job, what is the point of a minimum wage? Seems to me it only succeeds at causing more young, uneducated, and unskilled workers to be unemployed.

And how many times have we heard men and women get divorces because they just weren’t “in love” anymore? Mushy-gushy feelings are no more a reason to get married than they are to get divorced. Love is an act of will, not an emotion. And I will take that to the grave.

You get married not only because you love a person but because you want to put their best interest before your own and because you want to be a family together. It also makes economic sense.

i notice how whenever any of these websites post s**t like this we’re going to get the usual, whitey is lying people, the racist i knew niggas werent s**t people, then the i’m black but still hate black people comments and its all entertaining in all…..but why dont we try just handling OUR OWN life responsiblities to the best of our abilities & none of the other s**t matters…you’d be suprised how much of this s**t would fix itself if YOU did what you were supposed to & not worry about the rest of the world…

Natassia, when I come across females like you it really makes me shake my head. Mainly because you find it so difficult to believe that I a Black Woman – do not know a single BLACK WOMAN that is on welfare (not every Black Woman has been introduced to the gov’t). You see…the Sistah’s I associate with believe in hard work – receiving a paycheck every other week, implementing self-development, have respect for themselves to understand that in this world…handouts are not a luxury – standing on your own is the biggest accomplishment and achieving goals are even bigger. And to have a King on their side is a heavenly reward.

The article topic is about the lack of Black Men to the Black Woman…the things you posting relating to the liberal politics – in my mind was a cop-out. However you were very persistent in making. My lack of understanding is that you posted a lot of obtained knowledge surrounding the effects of whats to come and why – but yet you posted you live a town filled with poor Black people. It makes me wonder if you are the dumb one to stay and if you are one in which you’ve posted about reeping all those juicy benefits from the welfare system. Yes, I lived in an extremely well BLACK community that you classify as an enclave – you can as well with hardwork:)

Lastly, the education system you posted – again you must be aware this is happening all over the country…not just your poor town.

THAT GOES FOR BOTH SIDE . VISE VERSA..

LOL…

well at least your wife is black. although i don’t buy into the notion that the “good black man” in America is an endangered species, i wouldn’t limit myself to just American black men. black people are brothers and sisters, no matter where on the globe we live.

In 750 counties around the country, 1 in 3 black residents relies on SNAP (food stamps).

You must not live anywhere near one of those counties. I won’t go into the statistics for the other programs I mentioned. You are just as capable of using Google as anyone else.

The problem of the lack of black men to black women is simple really. Number one, many black men prefer women of a different race. There are probably many different reasons for that, none of which I will list here. Number two, many black men are in prison for breaking the law. It is difficult to date a man in prison, and when he is released it is very difficult for him to find gainful employment, making him non-marriage material.

Solve the problem of disproportionate, rampant criminality among black males and you may see some improvement in the numbers of marriageable black men. Of course, we all know that black boys raised by single mothers are more likely to become juvenile delinquents than those raised by both parents, but that would mean we have to address the problem of black women propagating outside of marriage and I don’t think you really want me to go there.

Haven’t I continually said to “look at the big picture”? Bad schools are disproportionately where the underclass minorities are throughout the country, just as welfare recipients (in its various forms) are disproportionately blacks, and criminal offenses are disproportionately committed by black men.

Wake up and smell reality, Ms. Soul, because you certainly aren’t seeing it.

Successful black men like myself want similar criteria like that too in black women.. BUT NOT ALL black women meet them either.

According to the criteria there is only 3 black men for eveyr 100 black women. I assume these 100 women meet that same criteria too.

ok, so let’s break down black women based on these same criteria. how many are childless? not obese? doesn’t like other women? i see, so the 100 black women are not to be examined. …stupid anti-black relationship propaganda smh

sista, we can agree to disagree on this one.

No…I’m not seeing it, nor do I need to smell because you placed it out there – does not mean it’s true.

I have a very difficult time with individuals placing their own stats out in the universe expecting everyone to jump on the bandwagon.

Most articles on this thing are just ignorant in my opinion and this this is one more. Who can say what it good or bad? I don’t like women who are ghetto needy and in my opinion ignorant or who have more than one child. That doesn’t make them bad. I just looked a the data. I’m willing to bet everything it so way off base.

this some bulls**t…where are the income stats from

this is bulls**t. excuse my language but this propaganda is not helping the black community, instead of publishing infographics which demoralize black men and women. go out in your local community and do something of value. this is propaganda to draw traffic to this site. IGNORE

“sista, we can agree to disagree on this one.”

Always…this is how we role:)

who the f**k would go onto a dating website and pay for services but aim for low men?

Oh this is so funny…lol! So cause i have a background,kids, and don’t make 30k a year, im not a good black guy? Ha! I’m not going to bash on my black ladies cause if she bout B.S, then that’s what she going to get in the long run. To my Brothers and Sisters,just keep ya head up, and keep taking care of business. Be with who make you happy, and don’t fall for this foolishness they just posted on this site!!!

Natassia, i was with you until you made the claim that “many black men prefer women of a different race.”

being that the vast majority of black men date black women, and the vast majority of black married men are married to black women, i don’t see how the few black men who DO prefer women of another race could actually be a threat to black marriage.

if you want your argument to remain valid, be careful not to allow it to drift into subjectivity and subtle bigotry, as evidenced by phrases such as “rampant criminality among black males” and “marriageable black men” (the latter is based largely on individual standards, not on your personal opinion).

if this is true, then it is the other way around for me. Im a GOOD black man, but I cant seem to find a good black woman. So its 100 to 3 good black woman or maybe because I live in l.a. ;and when I say good black woman, someone who loves being black and loves our people.

Look YT folks are in full effect assault mode on us because their population is dwindling faster than the down arrow in wall street. Therefore, they are pushing are women to be with then so our population do not increase. Its called Genetic Annihilation of YT folks, or in my term YTs are scared of my nut sacks lol.

a woman who doesn’t have any male OR female friends? so you want a woman who will be clingy as hell because she has no friends/life of her own?

c’mon…let’s be realistic…

I work in a building filled with a ton of Black single women, all with college and advanced degrees.
I can’t think of a single one that I, or my single Black male co-workers, would date…let alone marry!
Why? Because we don’t have the same interests!
Many black males today have a wide range of interests: photography, bird-watching, classical music, skydiving, hang-gliding, etc.
Sure! Many of the single sisters at my job would try the aforementioned activities, but how many could sustain the same interest in the activity as her single black male counterpart?
Most sisters I’ve met have limited interests. While white women are open to anything their man is involved in. If they can’t do the activity, they are there supporting their man’s involvement.
You find few sisters who will do that.

right…there’s a difference between healthy submission and straight-up obedience. lol

Great post, Natassia.

thank you for saying that…

You just saved me a 3 paragraph post lol.

If there aren’t any “good” Black men…why don’t Black women marry a white man?
It worked out for Michelle Obama.

Fake Black Barack…NoBama 2012.

I think the stat has shrunk to 1.5 “good “Black men for every Black woman! Why? Simply because more and more of those Black men consider white women to be better than Black women like their mommas, grannies, and sisters. Maybe they are ashamed of the cavity through which they came or seek to wash away their blackness by turning away from “good” Black women. “Good”, here, is being defined as possessing positive attributes including character, respect, appearance, goal setting, pride in heritage
and more.

exactly ! no one can speak for all black men and what all black men prefer..

“Most sisters I’ve met have limited interests. While white women are open to anything their man is involved in”

Thats some Coon type stuff right there.
Thats like me saying white men support me more than black men.
STOP THIS WHITE PEOPLE DO IT BETTER BULLS**T!

Over 8% of black married men are with white women. That is a huge number. 70% of interracial couples are black men with white women. At least, according to this article, right?

So, it seems to me that many black men prefer white women. I did not say most. I did not say majority. I said many.

And when marriageable black men are few and far between, these numbers can equate to “many.”

Natassia you sound like a sociologist lol very good argument.

Thank you, Lexe.

You know, I hope just one person comes away from this discussion at least considering what I’ve written. I hope someone who has never considered these things before seriously thinks about them.

I hope I have planted a seed, because the way things are going right now in this country…God help us.

The truth and solution to America’s issue lies somewhere between both Natassia and Badd’s post…

Neither are COMPLETELY right however.

But both have brought up VERY enlightening points.

I just had a thought: why did the authors of this article approach it this way? “How many GOOD black men for every 100 black women?”

It is yet another example of male-bashing feminism.

Why didn’t they ask, “How many good single black men are there, and how many good single black women are there?”

It is like they have this unspoken assumption that all black women are worthy of black men or something.

God (or at least not the one in the rewritten and mistranslated Bible) is not the answer for what is keeping us in chains.

That book teaches you to turn OFF your brain and cater to a White God that tellsus to simply “obey master”.

not sure how IT has any answers for the state Black America is in.

but alot of what you said (about corrupt systems meant to keep us in servitude) DOES indeed hold water.

Yes, the truth is someplace in the middle

I meant 3 not 3%. Still, if this is the resulting number due to the entitlement of many ladies, then I can see why some black men date others, to be brutally honest. You can have the good black men, but…those who haven’t been with other men? Those who haven’t dated any more then a black woman? Those who have a job and is making bigger bank than someone who works at Cheeseboy or Stop & Shop? For real? Even my standards for a nice woman aren’t so lofty. But toeachisown.

yeah.

there’s a lot of fatties out here swearing they to good for damn near any nigga short of Morris Chestnut or Blair Underwood.

Which I find HILARIOUS since them nigga’s wouldn’t come near dem fatties even if the cooch was made outta strawberry cheesecake lol.

some more bullshyt yeah right

every 3 good black men for 100 black women

what a dumb azz article to publish without conclusive facts

and as usual they are trying to downsize the quality of our race.

yeah this is fact though when the sun comes closer to earth by 2012-2013 well see how many of them that’ll be effected by the ultra violet rays.

omg I so agree with that statement…

You can’t… A mother can.

It’s in her job description.

you may have simply misunderstood her statement.

i am not surprised and people that disagree with this article are single i am sure lol.

I believe he made his point…

Look at all ya’ll who feel his list is downright ridiculous.

A lot of Black men feel the same way about these “requirements” (not the normal ones like a good character, responsble, loving and willing to cherish you) that some Black women spit out.

Some of the “standards: of what a “Black Man” is… is kinda ridiculous considering we KNOW that we’ve been PURPOSELY kept behind the ball by men more powerful positions than us.

The game is rigged for us…

Yet every ONE of you wants to get Prince Charming when the harsh and racist environment in America does not produce these type of men by the buttload.

They are rare.

That comment was made in Reply to MR. LYRICALS group down here…

Now apply that to some of the unrealistic requirements of women also…

I think he did that in satire to prove a point… not to try and get this fantasy of a woman.

me too.

Them is strangely enough the same chicks whining about a lack of Good Men.

I got news for ya…

He got him a good woman and ain’t checking for nam one o ya…

“No woman should equate a GOOD BLACK MAN as not having any children. The creator of this presentation must be aware that things happen between two people, and just because he’s fathered a child does not mean he’s not a GOOD BLACK MAN. that would be one attribute that can describe him as being a GOOD BLACK MAN – handling his responsibilities ensuring his child is well taken care of and spending time, supporting, nurturing and loving his child.”

could not agree more with this statement…

exactly.

good call.

Heterosexual, good looking, successful and childless……

I really want to hang the black women they surveyed for this study…..I’m just not in the mood to ‘breakdown’ what I REALLY think about this article……And furthermore, based on the comments from THIS website, when inflammatory or tunnel vised articles like this come out about black women, the black males on this site tend to agree, like, fall in, bash, belittle and co sign each and every ill word written about us…..Let the ‘brothers’ on this site tell it, and all of us black women are baby mommas, lazy, triflin, welfare receiving, gold digging, weave wearing, thug loving and just a bunch of all around ‘white man’ chasers…..

Eh, I’m cool on this one….I’m just not feeling the collective black male respect here lately……GO hard on me if you will fellas, I won’t be back either way…..*SHRUG*

Shalom

Oddly, being of good character wasn’t mentioned. Shouldn’t that be an essential quality of a potential mate?

@Natassia. what u have typed here, is the truth!

Hahahahahahaha!

I notice the title of the article is Only 3 “Good” Black Men For Every 100 Black Women. The question is how
many of those 100 black women are good black women! I would be willing say maybe 5! The truth of the matter is just because more black women than black men have education, and jobs that don’t make them good women. A good black women have sense enough to not to kick every good man she every had out when a phony prince charming come by and then say “there is no good black men out there” and then expect the one she kick out to have understanding and come back. A good man just want a women who know and understand that he is human and [will make mistakes, honest mistakes as she will to]. A good women will appreciate her good man and carries herself like a ladies not a competitor.

Here is ANOTHER attempt by OUR (blacks) mortal enemy “the white man” to push this filth and degrade the black man and to fool black women into thinking that they are NOT gonna find a black man come and join us and keep disobeying our LORD. Black women are NOT to date other races and black men the same because these races have abused and destroyed Gods people. We don’t need to go outside OUR race to look for love we have all we need within ourselves!

This shows you how wicked the white man is ..he allows homosexuals to get married but a man cannot have but one wife. According to Gods word the man can have as many wives as he wants he just CANNOT leave any of them!! The woman cannot have but one man and ONLY if that man dies she is free from marriage to that manand can get another. the problem is we are being w***es and not understanding why the LORD put so many black women on the earth!

Rom 7:2 For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to [her] husband so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of [her] husband.

Rom 7:3 So then if, while [her] husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man.

:) I hate sociology.

@Natassia, you’re right again, on what you r saying. Not only did Thomas Sowell say this, but Walter E williams wrote a book about what you’re saying in ’82; about blacks and the welfare state. The truth hurts before it can help!

Natassia You hit the nail on the head!

The reason why this is happening is because black women or very disrespectful to well educated black males by either talking back, telling them they would never amount to anything or by playing the role of a men.

The reason why this is happening is because black women or very disrespectful to well educated black males by either talking back, telling them they would never amount to anything or by playing the role of a men.

BLACK WOMEN PLEASE LISTEN TO NATASSIA AND SAVE YOUR SELF AND YOUR FAMILY BEFORE IT’S LATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

8% isn’t a huge number in my opinion. the 70% statistic holds very little significance when less than a tenth of black married men choose white women as their wives. like you say, “look at the big picture”…

and again, you say “marriageable black men” as though it means the same thing to everyone…

You missed the main point of the Bible’s message which is to turn to Jesus Christ for salvation (rather than, say, wealth, yourself, or some Democratic politician promising you the world.) Ever been to a black church not preaching black liberation theology? I have. Let me tell you, those folks were on fire for Jesus (and there were plenty of divots in the worn wooden floors to prove it.)

The reason “black America” (whatever that means, as if there are separate Americas based on race or something) is in the state it is in is because too many black Americans have embraced the spirit of liberalism–that they are victims of evil “white male America”, that Christianity is false, that they deserve things they haven’t earned, and that forcibly redistributing wealth around will lead to happiness.

The system were are in is a manifestation of the desires of those who have voted consistently to put liberals in positions of political power. In other words, we should be careful what we wish for.

Dollarbillphil she [Natassia] hit the nail right on the head. She is saying what a lot of black folk and leaders know but is afraid to say.

i HOPE it was satirical!

“And furthermore, based on the comments from THIS website, when inflammatory or tunnel vised articles like this come out about black women, the black males on this site tend to agree, like, fall in, bash, belittle and co sign each and every ill word written about us…..Let the ‘brothers’ on this site tell it, and all of us black women are baby mommas, lazy, triflin, welfare receiving, gold digging, weave wearing, thug loving and just a bunch of all around ‘white man’ chasers…..”

This.

Except that 70% number is interracial COUPLES. It said nothing about married couples in particular.

In other words, 70% of the interracial couples (dating and married) are black men with white women. I wonder how many black men are dating outside of their race.

Those black men who are DATING white women can’t technically be considered “available”, right?

I found another statistic. You aren’t going to like it.

In 2008, 22% of black men who married did not marry a black woman. That’s over 1 in 5.

The men who troll the ‘dating’ sites are losers, that is true. Real Black men meet women in person.

I love Thomas Sowell, and I especially loved his book Conflict of Visions. He is an eloquent writer. I have only read some of Walter Williams’ articles.

Devils do not come in all races there is one Devil and that is the white race that is why the lord said he hates white people. All other races is following this evil race especially black people since we have been enslaved and taught to forget our history /culture by killing our mothers and fathers thus no one to teach us who we REALLY are and was raised on whites culture and learing their way of life and loving them like good children while they hate us!

The LORD knew what he created in you DEVILS and that is a race of people that has no empathy for anyone but yourselves! Take your seat as the DEVIL and stop trying to decieve! It was white devils that gave them Africans the guns to Enslave the Hebrew Israelites! Those voyages that was sanctioned by your Queen was to find the true Hebrew Israelites! And if white people know they are NOT JEWS why are the perpetrating like they are? Christ IS a N****R and from the same people blacks are!

Tobit 4:12 Beware of all w***edom, my son, and chiefly take a wife of the seed of thy fathers, and take not a strange woman to wife, which is not of thy father’s tribe: for we are the children of the prophets, Noe, Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob: remember, my son, that our fathers from the beginning, even that they all married wives of their own kindred, and were blessed in their children,

So now you know we are not supposed to MIX RACES like the white man is promoting!!!

Black man + White woman =Black babies

Black woman + White man = WHITE BABIES

Black man + Any woman = Black babies

Black woman + Any man = Any mans babies

The seed come from the man everytime there are NO mixed people on this earth!!

I also have to wonder who is compiling this data and from which sites and why? Looking at the numbers, it is way off based on ACTUAL black male statistics, so why is this even a highlighted story? It’s wrong, period. I am a Black female and I am very angered by this. I know way too many decent Black men who more that ‘make the grade’. So who, really who are these losers that are on the sites? I’d dare say the bottom of the barrel, men who cheat, men who w***e around, men who lie about who they are. And who are the women? Why is a supposed Black site giving such a story any reading space??????? Let’s all just shoot ourselves in the foot, back, stomach and face!

This was the whole plot of whitey since the women’s lib movement to raise black women up to be equal to men then knock off welfare and put those women in jobs and making them the primary breadwinners over the men to keep you weak. If you study history all nations did the same thing starting with Egypt when Pharoah killed the men child and saved the women alive because the women do not prose a threat to whitey and he can reproduce with them! One thing Jesus Christ is BLACK!!

WHITE PEOPLE ARE A CURSED PEOPLE WHENEVER SOMEONE HAD A WHITE SKIN OR A YELLOW HAIR THEY WAS PUT OUTSIDE OUR NATION BECAUSE IT WAS A DISEASE LEPROUSY! THEY WAS LIVING IN THEM CAVES HATING THE LORD BECAUSE OF THEIR PUNISHMENT JUST LIKE CAIN AND MARKED WITH THAT WHITE SKIN TO SHOW THEY ARE MURDERERS AND THAT THEY CANNOT WALK AMONGST THE EARTH UNTIL THE LORD ALLOWED THEM TO COME OUT BECAUSE OF OUR SINS THE SUN BRINGS LIFE BUT TO THEM IT BRINGS DEATH THEY GET ALL KINDS OF SKIN CANCER!!!

Black man + White woman =Black babies

Black woman + White man = WHITE BABIES

Black man + Anywoman =Black babies

Black woman + Anyman = Anymans babies

The seed come from the man everytime!!!

Jdg 14:3 Then his father and his mother said unto him, [Is there] never a woman among the daughters of thy brethren, or among all my people, that thou goest to take a wife of the uncirc**cised Philistines?

The white man and ALL other races outside of blacks hispanics and native americans are uncirc**sized!!!

I HATE ALL WHITE PEOPLE AND NOT JUST THEM ALL RACES AND IT’S HOW I KNOW NOT TO BE AMONGST THESE DIFFERENT NATIONS! WE AS BLACK PEOPLE TEND TO THINK THAT THESE OTHER RACES THINK LIKE US WHEN THEY ARE NOT IN THE SAME MINDSET AS WE ARE THE ARE DECEIVING AND WHITE PEOPLE THE LORD CALLS YOU THE WICKED ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH…MEANING YOU ONLY PUSH YOUR WICKEDNESS! DONT TELL ME ABOUT MIXING WITH YOU WHEN YOU HAVE A HISTORY OF MURDER AND SLAVERY!!

Rom 9:13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.

The Most High said that loved Jacob and HATED Esau is the forefather of all white people. That seed is roaming the earth in a disgusting body. Also remember he said that the Earth was given into the hands of the wicked! Now ask yourself who is ruling the earth? Who oppresses nations and robs them? Remember, Christ was tempted by Satan and he said that you can have all the earth because it’s in my hands!

White people ARE the biggest RACIST on the face of the earth and it’s how you survived! Racism stupid is how races keep their culture! You got a chinatowen in every city and they don’t mix races! They got no Chinese politicians and they got no Chinese mayors ..but what they do have is RACISM. They buy from their own they speak their own language they have their own culture. To tell black people NOT to be racist is in fact telling them to give up their culture!

You stinking neanderthal kromagnum sc**bag …you devils was living in caves crawling on all fours eating out of your mothers scull until the BLACK MAN came and rescued your dumb ass! And to show you stinking dogs that you dont know shyt unless it’s a Israelite helping you…you devils got to this land and could not feed yourselves and was about to die until the natives showed you how to survive but they should hasve watched you rot because you are the bug of the earth!

All the trailer park cavemen that pushing their demons all over the place need to take their history books in a cave along with their stinking woman and let drive all them stinking (blood shows through their skin) MURDERERS where the hell they belong because it is evident they cannot live on the earth as a civilized people!! Your whole dirty stinking race are DOGS and unworthy to be called an addition to humanity! Furthermore you are NOT HEW-MAN you have no hew to you DOG!!!

Interracial relationships are wrong and God told us not to make marriages with these other nations and just for the record sex is marriage!! When you have sex with a man the LORD looks at you as two people that became one!

Deu 7:3 Neither shalt thou make marriages with them; thy daughter thou shalt not give unto his son, nor his daughter shalt thou take unto thy son.

Lev 20:26 And ye shall be holy unto me for I the LORD am holy, and have severed you from other people, that ye should be mine.

…notice they NEVER implied that these ’100 women’ were GOOD women. Only that they’re women. ;~D

Seriously, though.. I dislike these types of discussions because they’re often misleading in that they’re less about helping people to achieve happiness, and more about instigating Gender Battles between Males & Females (and in some cases includes Gay Men & Lesbians [dykes]). :-/

NewsNone should be ashamed, but… That would require a conscience, wouldn’t it?. :-/

Also.. I love what SimplyComplex_87 just said. More power to ya, Sister. :-D

You have got to be kidding right. First divorce as a concept came form English common law and was a way for the land holding elite to get rid of wives who in their minds were less than worhty. Like many aspects of the law, things that were only setout for the land holding elite eventually became parts of the legal system. To say that liberalism brought about no fault divorce is taking a very narrowed minded view of what others call the modern evolution of the law. I mean i guess you can blame liberlism for such evil things as black voter enfranchisment or the expansion of the law of public nuisiances into the Clean Air, Clean Water, Safe Drinking Water, and Superfund laws.

As to the great society, blaming liberalism on a system that was initially designed to provide a social safety net is to again blame liberalism for the development of the air bag or food and drug administration. What happen with the Great Socirty had more to do with common sense than liberlaism.

So now the minimum wage is a bad thing for black people?

I don’t need to go any further in examining the simplistic arguments you have put forward to complicated arguments. There is no doubt that black people in this country have lost their morals, work ethic and for some their minds. There is no doubt some of the blame can be put at the door of social welfare and other programs that were originally designed with good intentions in mind. I think what your argument lacks is a general understanding of the law of organization expansion and the need for organizations to develop rules and regulations to support their existence and expand their scope.

However, what has happen to us has been mostly a self-inflicted wound. In our haste not to want to criticize other blacks for doing stupid or destructive things, we have allowed a counter culture Hip Hop/Ghetoofication to spread and like a virus it has run rampit through our community. As such we have taken to glorifying the worst of culture and as such being ghetto or ignorant is Ok because you keeping it real and that is our reality.

WRONG As to answers I have none. Many on this site would pounce on me like a tiger on red meat for suggesting there is something wrong with us. But the answer to African/Black Americans problems is us. Until we figure that out, our weman will not find enough suitable mates, I kid wil not be able to accept the education being provided to them in the schools and we as a race will continue to dominate the top of all the negative socioeconomic statistics in this country. This is not a liberal fix or a conservative fix, it has to be our fix.

You can believe that teabag nonsense, I sent my answer.

Wow! Though I don’t agree with 2 criteria that make a black man “qualified,” the other results are still disturbing. Luckily, I don’t mind dating interracially;-).

The first no-fault divorce law was passed in 1969 in California (surprise, surprise.) Until that day, no state in the United Stated had no-fault divorce. Last year, New York became the final state to have a no-fault divorce law on the books.

Before the no-fault divorce laws were in place, a person had to prove his or her spouse was at fault, and the problem merited a divorce. There was no such thing as “irreconcilable differences.” You couldn’t just divorce your spouse and demand alimony and child support just because you fell out of love, for example.

Did you know that even the framers of that oh-so-wonderful safety net known as Social Security knew that it couldn’t pass constitutional muster? How many other programs do we have that are not constitutionally sound?

And all in the name of “providing a safety net”? Please. Employment is the best safety net there is. And to have that, a country’s citizens need breathing room to create and innovate, buy and sell, hire and fire, and otherwise run businesses.

I wonder, how many poor folks were dropping dead in the streets from starvation prior to the Great Society policies? I have noticed, however, that there are a great deal more obese poor people than ever before. Something is completely screwed up with this picture.

The minimum wage has always been a bad thing for young black men. The unemployment numbers don’t lie. Follow the trends, as minimum wages have increased, what has happened to the unemployment numbers of black men? Imagine what will happen if the USPS defaults…

Liberalism is at fault for a lot of our country’s problems. Just because liberals’ intentions have been admirable, it doesn’t mean the consequences haven’t been a big fat pile of steaming you-know-what.

I never implied that what has happened to black people isn’t their fault. On the contrary, I think all cognizant human beings are 100% responsible for the choices they make regardless of skin color. A high or low amount of melanin has no bearing on someone’s culpability for foolish choices.

But have you ever traced the history of the rise of ghetto hip hop culture? I am not a big believer of coincidences. And that’s why I know that liberalism (a product of Marxist whites) is fully to blame. And all the blacks who have bought into it are also to blame.

As to whether or not it is a liberal fix or a conservative one all depends on what you are trying to liberate or conserve. In America, conservatives typically want to conserve traditional morals and standards of behavior. They also want to conserve free market principles. I wonder how many black Americans are true conservatives at heart and never knew it…

“Blacks are still the least assimilated,” says Roderick Harrison, a demographer at Howard University and the Joint Center for Political and Economic Studies in Washington. “It does suggest that the divide in this country remains between blacks and everybody else.”

That was on the usatoday article.

Right on sist I was bout to fire off but you said it all

I don’t know what that means. If he is talking about black immigrants, I could understand it.

But if he is talking about black Americans, then he is just an idiot. Black Americans, particularly those whose ancestors have been here for generations, are part of what defines America. They don’t have to “assimilate.” They just have to BE, because they are just as much Americans as every other person born and raised here by folks who were born and raised here.

The problem is not that black Americans are not assimilating. It is that too many black Americans embrace failed economic policies and empty political promises. There is no other more loyal voting bloc than American blacks. No matter how stupid the candidate, how stupid his policies, if there is a “D” beside his name, they’ll vote for him. And if he has black skin, that’s even better.

fas·cism: noun/ˈfaSHizəm/
1. An authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization.

fas·cism   [fash-iz-uhm] noun
1. ( sometimes initial capital letter ) a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc., and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often racism.

FASCISM
1. often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition

What part of this escapes you? Better yet, why are you so convinced that a Black man just couldn’t POSSIBLY know what a big word like “fascism” (ooooh!) means?

I know what it means and I rant against people like yourself who support the ideology that opposed freeing the slaves (conservatism), that opposed ending segregation (conservatism), the ideology that rallies to support every murderous cop and demonize every innocent Black victim (conservatism), that circulates the belief that all Black people want to be lazy, make illegitimate babies and live on welfare in order to dehumanize them (conservatism), and who LOVE the idea that whether you live or die due to lack of healthcare should be a decision left in the hands of the super-rich (conservatives).

FYI… Jesus Christ WAS a social liberal. And conservative ideologies BY THEIR VERY NATURE violate his GREATEST commandments as a RULE: “Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.” VIOLATED. Christ said to feed the poor and take care of the sick. VIOLATED. You celebrate the death penalty, Christ said “He who is without sin cast the first stone”. VIOLATED. You people are notorious warmongers! Christ said “Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despite-fully use you, and persecute you”. VIOLATED.

Don’t tell ME that I have the freedom to do what I want. I’m telling YOU that you have the freedom to support WHATEVER political ideology you wish. But when you try to attach your FAKE Christian so-called “morals” to your arguments you INSULT everything that Christ taught. I don’t claim to be a Christian, but I know hypocrisy when I see it. And one thing scripture tells us Christ hated… is hypocrisy. My granddad, my brother, my father, and every uncle & aunt I have spent their LIVES (along with me) in the church. Don’t try to school ME on Christianity. You’re doing a poor enough job on politics alone.

Christ said “If you love me, keep my commandments”. Don’t even bother responding if you’re not going to state EXACTLY WHAT COMMANDMENTS your precious conservative morals are in keeping with. Not YOUR WORDS… quote CHRIST.

Remember… YOU brought Christianity into this discussion. Not me.

I WANT, I Want, i want! What ABOUT when the tables are turned and the males start barking, I WANT, I Want, i want? Then? Who’s PERFECT? Who’s Doing Who/Whom the Favor? I say IT’S A DRAW & Will Depend on the Tolerance Level of BOTH SEXES because who’s perfect these day’s? Men & Women? Women & Men? Man & Man? Women & Women? To Me Perfection is HOW one treats themselves 1st& foremost! How in the F**ck can a person treat another good when the individual has been on one heck of a path of destruction of their own lives out the gate? Who want’s to deal with a person like that at the end of the day? So Good Starts with the Individual(s) 1st then the work begins. Until one checks their own A**’s & get their individuals S**t tight WHY WOULD A PERSON who’s done things right in their lives want to take on a person who’s done nothing in life but DESTROY themselves? ????

The main point of the Bible’s message is NOT “turn to Jesus Christ for salvation”. That’s like saying the main point of the Bible’s message is “you should pray”. Or the main point is “obey the 10 Commandments”. Or the main point is “Jesus was a good guy”.

Yes… those ARE points made in the Bible. And yes… those may also be true. But Jesus was asked what are the two greatest commandments himself and in answering that question basically SAID what the MAIN POINT of the whole thing is! “Love the Lord with all your strength, heart and might. And love your neighbor as yourself.”

Stripping the lessons of Christ down to “turn to Jesus Christ for salvation” helps to further the TERRIBLE message that people can be as selfish, self-interested, hateful, deceitful, malicious and treacherous as they like as long as they repent at the end of the day… the conservative Right’s stock & trade. It’s EXACTLY that philosophy that allows them to do what they do and sleep at night believing that their souls are still safe from judgment.

“If you love me, keep my commandments.” – Jesus Christ

“I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.” – Mahatma Gandhi

The question I have is what makes the proposed 100 black women “good” enough for this great black man?

You’ve never read C.S. Lewis’ books on Christianityy, have you? I recommend Mere Christianity. The Bible’s focal point is the Messiah and his message of salvation. Even reading the Torah, one can see that.

Jesus said, “if you love me, follow my commandments,” but the Bible is not just about defining morality. It is about God’s salvation of His children through His Son.

For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son… Remember? THAT is the focal point of the Bible. THAT is it’s most important.

Remember, Jesus said there is no greater love than this: that a man lays his life down for his friends.

I am sorry, but love involves self-sacrifice, not forcing your neighbor to sacrifice in the name of a “safety net.”

Nice try, but trying to dress up Marxism as Christ’s message doesn’t fly here.

A few comments on this piece:

On the issue of wanting a man who doesn’t have kids with another woman, did they ask if the kids were the result of a marriage that ended in divorce? If so I would call that a legitmate reason to have kids and being single.

If the guys are just “baby daddy’s” then I not only blame the men but black women are to blame too. Why would you allow yourself to get pregnant to man who does not plan on marrying you? So if 3 men out of 100 don’t have kids, that means that between both group sizes of 100 men and women, 97 women have kids by some other guy. That to me is a bigger issue. Why are women allowing themselves to get pregnant.

On this issue of wanting a man who looks good and is in good shape, I again ask, who did they ask. Take a walk in any mall, and you will see oversized women (as they call it “big boned”) who are obese, and who also walk around with any combination of red, green, or any other color of fake hair, along with matching fingernails and fake contacts to go along. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and I have seen plenty of not so in shape black women.

I think this poll is somewhat shallow, but brings up some good points. They should ask men, how many want a woman with no job, kids by 3 other men, overweight, and who have been to jail. I am sure you will get similar numbers.

sensationalist. attention. w**ring. bull. s**t.

too many problems with the so-called “data” to even begin to mention.

Considering your definition of fascism includes the term “right-wing” should be an immediate clue that the definition is faulty, especially since that term is not defined in the article you copy-pasted your fascism blurb from.

But we can all generally agree that fascism is authoritarian in nature. It is not about self-governance.

Sorry, but “right-wingers” in America tend to be all about self-governance. Remember that pesky movement known as the Tea Party? Check out some of their stated main tenets some time.

Trying to label everything that people did wrong in American history as “conservative,” is very silly of you. Today’s conservatives are not trying to conserve slavery. They aren’t trying to conserve Jim Crow. They aren’t trying to conserve racism, or any other thing you are trying to smear them with.

Really, do you think people are so stupid as to buy this crap? Your Orwellian play on words may work on some folks, but not me. I actually passed my college history classes.

Seems to me that what you can’t stand is a Christian who doesn’t kowtow to the typical black victimology and white guilt crap perpetuated by today’s liberals (ie Progressives), including liberal Christians who love to tell everyone that they just aren’t generous enough…

Sorry, bud, but I don’t fall for that and hopefully other people who read your ignorant post won’t fall for it either.

I didn’t know that children’s book writers were required reading on faith for a full and true understanding of the Christian faith. Hell, you don’t even quote the man so for all I know you’re twisting HIS words as badly as you’re twisting the words of Jesus.

Is it your opinion that regardless of the COUNTLESS others who oppose your cleverly constructed philosophy that it still remains right and correct, regardless of how often it contradicts the words of your very Bible on what constitutes a follower of Christ? Is it YOUR word for it that should be taken on what Christianity is about?

You quote John 3:16, which is nice. But are you trying to say that the author of the book of John, inspired though he (they?) may be, has a better grasp on what is of highest importance to Christians than Jesus? Are you actually arguing against Christ’s words to further your theocratic construction of what’s paramount for Christians?

And all for what? To defend some conservative political ideology crafted around a “me first” attitude, that talks up Christianity so it won’t appear so morally bankrupt to its followers.

“Give to God that which is God’s and to Caesar that which is Caesar’s.”

You can’t have it both ways. If church & state are one, then STICK TO CHRIST’S WORDS and stop filling in blanks to suit your own purposes. If church & state are separate (as Christ alludes to in this quote AND is the law of the land) then LEAVE OUT all of your false piety and PAY YOUR DAMNED TAXES LIKE A GOOD AMERICAN and be THANKFUL… NOT SCORNFUL that some of those dollars go TO HELP THOSE IN NEED!

That’s not dressing up Marxism as Christianity, that’s preventing would-be fascists from dressing up THEIR ideology as Christianity!

Thank GOD I’m not stupid enough to buy into this bulls**t. Pity those who are.

This is an article made up by some writer. Who the f**k is the griot anyway. Go to Best Black Dating Sites dot Org and click about and u will see the white female author. Do it now before they take it down.

so if we reverse these same criteria back at black women, what exactly would be the out come? if i ask for a woman with self-respect (not showing her ass all around the place), who isn’t materialistic and who is also independent and not reliant on a make as a meal ticket, what would be the statistics for that?

black women love white men and i see more black women with white men and hispanics than i do black men with whites.

what about the black women who choose whites over their race. i don’t see any stats on that. black women are super picky and materialistic and they miss out on good men.

They are just going too Far now!!! I know its bad, but I run into black women every day who either have a man or what they would call their man so they arent giving a lot of us the time of day……Im one of them!…..lol

You do know that many men of other races prefer other women. That more latinos are married out the race than black men and asian men. And alot of white men who prefer asian women as well.

where is she even pulling these stats. And what about 2009, and the years after that because the last sensus shows that most black men are still marrying bw even the ones with money. The last stats that were just taken. And I am not worried about who they are dating. I am not having problems getting dates. I just shake my head the white woman who has all the answers for us silly black people. It was the policies that they put in place that has the community where it is. Now they have all the answers. Really if all that works than why is the country in such trouble. Not just black america, but america.

Why is it jus the bw responsibility?

Please do you know that black people have these conversations all the time. Their are black conservatives who have been saying the same things you have said for years.

No, I don’t think this article is about black men and white women because they are the least of the problem if you believe what this article states. This is another article trying to convince black women that they have to look outside their race to find a good man. And more articles about bw need to be open to non bm because no good black men or not enough to go around.

In addition to the ill-conceived criteria for a “good black man”, the math, if it can be called that is severely flawed. First, many of the disqualifying factors that they list are not necessarily c**ulative-meaning that the same black men that are unemployed may be the same black men that have no college, are overweight, have kids by another woman and have been to jail. Therefore, to deduct the full percentage for each category skews the number of available “good black men” dramatically downward. Second, the study makes no deduction for all of the black women that have no college, are overweight, have kids by another man and have been to jail. Instead it deducts from the pool of men down to three but leaves the pool of women at 100 presenting an outrageously bleak prospect of a black woman’s chances of connecting with a “good black man”.

Ironically, however, any woman that takes this article seriously is not a good catch anyway (she has no objective discernment) so her chances just may be that dismal with a real “good black man”.

Didn’t a white chick write this??? Man….smh…….

How come the b***h is light skinned/mixed? DAMN! A ‘REAL’ BLACK WO-MAN HASN’T GOT A CHANCE IN RACIST amerikkka!

Personally, I could care less who a black man dates since I’d be a hypocrite doing this. At the same time, I would have to wonder if this “study” was done in predominantly black countries. I have my doubts. Black men over there would date a respectable black American or black African woman in a heart beat, especially if she were pretty.

lets back track. How many African American women can meet that same criteria?

I disagree. Those superficial preferences are positives that increase the likelihood that a man wouldn’t treat you like shyt. A black man who is successful, doesn’t have children out of wedlock, no criminal record, is attracted to black women, in good health, and is educated is much less likely to treat you like shyt than one who doesn’t have those positives.

Really? Based on what facts? Maybe all black women should be wearing bhurkas.
Look, the more restricted a society is towards women the more they suffer and the more they are exploited.

The only women who get upset are the ones who cannot be described that way. No man wants a “good” woman who is past her expiration date.

I live on the planet Earth. Men like me are in demand.

I turned down many white women while I was looking for a good black woman in this country. I thought that if I am getting this kind of action from white women then sooner or later I am going to meet a black woman who is comparable.

Ha, I guess I am GARBAGE. I failed most of this.

I was on board with everything you were saying until you got to the Christian teachings. I do not think it is necessary for black people to worship white people.

I would argue that black people going to church and worshiping white Jesus is the main thing that is holding us down.

I agree with you. All we have to do to come out of this mess is to start doing what is in our best interest. Everything white people do benefits white people and everything that black people do benefits white people.

Roll.

Natassia, you have an interesting and often simplistic way of spinning facts to support your position. Let’s take for example your statement that over 8% of black married men are with white women translates into black men preferring white women. That is misleading and probably intentionally so.
As a single black male who works in the office environment of a major bank in Arizona. A place where I average 10 hours a day, I’m exposed almost exclusively to white women. Odds are, should I decide to marry, it would be to a white woman. There is one black woman on my floor. None on the floor above me, and one on the floor above that. I haven’t seen a black woman today. Got a glimpse of the one on my floor who happens to be married to a white man yesterday. As an aside, I haven’t seen any black men today either.
If I want to meet a black woman I’d have to make a concerted effort. Maybe go to a black church, and as I am not into team praying, it just seems disingenuous to me to go to church just for that reason.

You, like a lot of white posters, come on this site pontificating with very fixed and narrow views of black people, but really have no clue as to what goes on in our lives.

Great response. I have to wonder who conduct this study. If this was written by a black person I’m going to change my race tomorrow. I’m going to a plastic surgeon, I’m going to bleach my skin and get some European features. We couldn’t be this dumb as much as we do some crazy things sometimes. The only purpose this serves is to spread more negativity about the black man. It is so stupid it doesn’t even need commenting on. There must be an hidden objective to this article. News one shouldn’t even publish this crap, this is not thought provoking, it’s just straight negativity.

So….all of black people’s problems are our own fault and white people have not made any laws or enacted any policies to keep us down?

Your assumption that my definition came from some article should be an immediate clue that you tend to speak out of your rectum without knowing what the hell you’re talking about. That “article” happens to be called the Oxford English Dictionary. Care to try again?

I’m going to need you to stop assuming that I’m uninformed simply because I disagree with you, or because I’m Black or because of whatever your hang-up is and start realizing that I’m just as, if not MORE informed than you are on these things. It’s insulting to the intelligence on one hand, yet reveals quite a bit about where your head is at on the other.

But back to your “right-wingers”. Nobody’s trying to label EVERYTHING wrong in American history as conservative… JUST THE THINGS CONSERVATIVES DID WRONG! I see you’re not too good at responding to questions directed at you but maybe you can prove your words by telling me ONE THING I laid responsibility on conservatives for that ISN’T true?

Or as far as your litany of things “TODAY’S” conservatives aren’t trying to do… what they ARE doing is making a push at EVERY opportunity for “state’s rights”. Now you can dress that up in all the double-talk you like, but unfortunately I’m not as uninformed as you’d LIKE me to be. Before FEDERAL law enforced Civil Rights, many of the states couldn’t be bothered and many CONSERVATIVES have expressed a desire to SPECIFICALLY end Civil Rights laws and let businesses, institutions, etc. decide ON THEIR OWN whether they choose to segregate or not. And let’s not forget the UNION BUSTING of “today’s conservatives”. The rush to execute men whose guilt is still in question by “today’s conservatives”. The use of redistricting, changing voter laws and setting up obstacles to make it harder for the constituents of their opponents to vote… by “today’s conservatives”. And let’s not forget the barely averted global financial crisis that “today’s conservatives” almost triggered. Feel free to correct any falsehoods you come across.

And in the midst of laying out all of that, how strange that you failed to even answer my one simple question… tell us “EXACTLY WHAT COMMANDMENTS your precious conservative morals are in keeping with. Not YOUR WORDS… quote CHRIST.”

Let me guess what the answer will be… “I don’t have to justify myself to you or answer any questions… blah blah blah… liberal this liberal that… blah blah blah”. I do find it interesting, however that I never mentioned any specific connection between the Christian aspect of this argument and any kind of racial favoritism… but somehow that’s what you took from it. I wonder why that is.

At any rate you should probably worry about that… AFTER you answer the question. I won’t hold my breath. You haven’t even qualified what makes ANYTHING I’ve said worthy of the term “ignorant”… although I think I’ve given PLENTY by which your comments could be classified as such.

You are so right hon..

I agree with a lot of what you say; but you are sprinkling in a lot of crap, too. If Christianity was the answer then we wouldn’t be in this position. Black people do more praying than anybody. Worshiping white people is not the answer.

You are here to confuse black people into thinking that there are some good white people. White people are getting ready to try to wipe out black people. When they make the attempt black people are going to wake up, absorb the punch and respond.

Just Some men …

Glad i can come to news one to find out my worth in society…

Bull!! Those studies are erroneous! Let’s take just THREE of those qualities: goodlooking, successful, and childless. How many of 100 random black women have THOSE qualities???? Honestly people, black men could say the SAME THING!! You gotta hold both parties to the same standard people!!!

We have a lot of confused people who have a 50% or 75% understanding of the world we live in and are making decisions as if they have a 100% understanding.

Black females are out of control. As a man I can tell you that everything we do is to get the girl. If you get the girl early in life you can focus your time and energy on being a more productive individual.

Now, if you are a bum or hoodlum or thug or pootbutt and you are f-ing the finest women in the world already what incentive do you have to better yourself? None. You look over at hard working brothers who are getting no action or are having to put a lot of effort into having any success with the ladies and you want no part of that.

My 300 lb + sisters drool over Tom Cruise and Brad Pitt. They get their hair done and throw on some makeup and buy a new tarp and swear they look good. And they talk about there aren’t any good black men.

The more conservative a society the less friendly it is towards women. In conservative society societies women’s rights are the first to go out the window. Before long they are wearing bhurkas (Islam) or long unflattering homemade dresses (Mormon polygamist sect) and hidden away behind closed doors. They still get pregnant underage and out of wedlock,but the fetus is disposed of dangerously and quietly.

First and for most on the topic Natassia is correct to a point of course them systems are made to keep blacks dependent on the system and also to keep blacks under control specially black men
the laws are made for us only not whites that’s why we are targeted and put in prison etc etc. Now the part where most are wrong is the subject of religion Jesus who real name was Issa was not gods only son for all ppl are his children regardless of race and creed he is black and actually learned in the same order as Moses was under the school of Egyptian mysteries. If any of you were listening really or better yet read the whole bible for your self with a clear mind you would ave notice that he was telling us that we are god in the flesh as he did in john 10:34 where he states Is it not written in your law, ye are gods (meaning the father is in us and we are in him he was not into religion only into facts) religion is a control device written by Satan/Saturn if you also read the old testament King David also makes the same claim that we are gods. We Nubian/ new beings need to stop worshiping false deities and start looking in the mirror we have allowed our selves to thing we are alone in a universe which in turn made us hate self and others including this beautiful planet called earth. leave the systems of man behind and follow nature be respectful to others for we are all brothers and sisters of the planet our bodies belong here our soul to the universe. soultry -soul open your third eye and be the queen you claim you are that goes for you also simply complex 87, Natassia you on point in the history of European culture and way’s but not on the history of human the bible say we are only 5000 to years old when in fact we have been here for hundreds of thousands of years the Pyramids of Giza are more than 10,000 years old alone. Atlantis is real we are the gods just falling under the spell (yes magic is real of Satan and other beings of his nature) this spell is a mental spell of sleep and ignorance. PS thank you for your opinions but could we please stick to facts science does not lie math does not either till next we chat Hotep Brothers and Sisters its time too wake up.

How many of those 100 black women are childless, not obese, not drunk off jesus juice, not club regulars, not weaved or wigged up, not emotional wrecks, not looking for a daddy, not suffering from a princess complex, not a slob with her clothes thrown all over her house, not adverse to cooking and housework, not just good looking on the outside while a mess inwardly, not a degreed dummy?

yeah yeah, it’s always about a good man…….

where are the good women….?

I would like someone to explain to me what is a good black man and also why there is never a mention about a good black woman. Is this because there is a belief that us black men are mostly bad and our black women are mostly good. I can understand where that belief came from because I’ve rarely ever met a woman who is at fault for anything that goes wrong in their relationship. The reality is the black men are no worse than the black women, we both contribute to equally to whatever problems we have. I’ve heard 2 PAC say, his mother grew him to respect woman but every time he would approach a woman, they would say he was too nice. So he started calling women b***hes. Guess what, the women loved it. How many of us black men tried to be gentlemen and the women said we were too nice. look in our neighbourhoods and tell me who the girls go for, mr nice guy or mr thug.

No one can love us unless we love ourselves. No one will respect us unless we respect ourselves. We cannot be great unless we think for ourselves. If you don’t think for yourself you will become everyone else’s fool. We spend all our time arguing about our problems and no time finding solutions.

Great points! I agreed with every point that you mentioned 100%!

Wow is this a joke ? I really hope this is a joke.

A group of SINGLE black women were behind this supposed “study”!!! Nice try,lol.

I guess because I’ve seen plenty of rich douchebags with money and no kids that treat women like super trash, and they take it because they like it.

Are you serious. First all. Who the hell said black woman have it together. ONE STUDY SHOW that black woman don’t want a guy who went to jail, yet black woman are attracted to thugs type dudes. Then another study talk about black men having kids. Now. This article is really ridiculous. Black woman the ones having the babies. Rarely to I meet a decent looking black woman at least 22 years old without kids.Then , they talk about homosexual black males. Both the homosexuals black men and woman cancel each other out. Matter of fact, I see more homosexuals teenager females than males. Finally , they talkng about black men not being in shape. Are you kidding me. Black woman are the most obese woman in America. There defintely more men in shape than black woman. MATTER OF FACT 66% OF BLACK WOMAN ARE OVERWEIGHT.

This news is as about as trust worthy as a grocery store tabloid. In reference to education . I hope the woman who may read this information is smart enough to know disinformation when they read it.

I wish I could find a flaw in your statement. I won’t go into statistics but the fact of the matter is this simple. Black women, no as a matter of fact women can’t find a good man because THEY DON’T WANT TO. They know what is no good and they know what is good. When a good man approaches a woman these days he gets laughed off and dismissed as a pushover. Women are their own worst enemies when it comes to this subject.

Agreed, but most of the battered and toothless women in women’s shelter’s are not in there because of rich douchebags. The poor douchebags way outnumber the rich ones.

I’M A GOOD BLACKMAN AND KNOW IT JUST CAN’T FIND THAT SPECIAL ONE WHO CAN FIT ME
AND COMPLETE ME AND WHO DON’T PLAY GAMES OR LIE I’LL PUT MY TRUST IN GOD ABOVE
TO SEND ME A GOOD WOMAN AND HEAVEN ALSO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

FROM GREG HERE IN MINNEAPOLIS MINNESOTA USA

I would prefer my mate to make $30,000 or more and last I checked that doesn’t equate to being rich. Police officers, custodians, bus drivers, fire fighters all average a little over $30,000 a year and they are all blue collar workers. I am sure that every real women would want a mate whom is somewhat attractive, not necessarily fine but has features such as a nice smile, clean cut, well groomed, and physically fit. Additionally, I would prefer a mate who has no children just as many men would prefer not to take care of another man’s child. And what heterosexual person prefers to have a gay mate? If you want a man who doesn’t have children, (particularly if you don’t have any children your self) , who is attractive, heterosexual, and not poverty stricken it doesn’t mean that you are a gold digger, or that you are superficial; it just means that you have some standards. I also want a male who is compassionate, creative, family oriented, a good listener, understanding, forgiving, romantic, and manly( good with his hands). Its ok to have standards. So many failed relationships and single parent rearing is do to the fact that some females and males have no real standards.

I do however disagree with the actual numbers. I believe there are more than 3% of black men to every 100 black women.

They’re still on this??? Lol Now 100 to 3??? Where dey get them numbers???

Jeez. They won’t let this s**t go will they. Slow NEWS day huh???

Lmao!!! Propaganda at it’s worst!!! Stop falling for the hype people.

Peace. :-)

The criteria should be a man with a good job and a good p***s.

Absolute rubbish, time has come for black women to stop rushing black men; is it not the same black MEN those women such as Chinese, Korean, English, Irish, Saudi, German etc marry and stay married for year?,
Come to think of it, if the same statistic states that SINGLE BLACKWOMEN bring up majority of BLACKMEN in the USA, hence the large production of BAD BLACKMEN. I am interested to know the population of single black men in the US for a change.
SHOW me a good SINGLE black woman, ready for marriage without badges and inhibitions; I will show you a great black, educated, driven with the heart of Gold to marry. Here at the University environment, I mentor, teach and associate with the best of black men and women evry year.

This is yet the millionth excuse for black men to spread out of wed lock children all over with black mothers, let thr Gov”t and mothers take all the slack for the kids they the fathers have no interest in taking care of. I also thinks you are giving these men a pass for they need to be deadbeats to the kids they father. They don’t want to marry black women. I know men that have kids by multiple black women, yet they married women of other races. Mostly white women.

I’m an African American Male 50 years of age single, no kids and never been married. I have an Undergraduate degree in Financial Accounting out of Georgetown University. My salary is somewhere between $90k with overtime $106k. I own a home and my life style consist of Health Fitness and Wellness, Travel, Museum, Arts, Festivals and helping others achieve goals that I can help them with along the way. Running is my passion, health and nutrition is a stickler for me as well. I have been all over the World and saw many different scenario’s about men and women.
My point to all of this is that in my experience in what I see is that there are more single eligible black men then the number percentage the article is posting. Let’s turn it around and find out how many eligible black women to eligible black men in terms of being emotionally, mature for a meaningful relationship. I find that there’s a lot of both black men and black women that are not ready from that perspective so there may be a lot of eligible black women in terms of status but when it comes to being mature and ready that’s a question in mind and the same thing for black men.

money can be here today but gone tomorrow
looks fade with time
no one has a perfect life
many black men are incarcerated for no reason but being black
education is good but one’s character is far more important

THEREFORE LET LOVE BE THE MAIN REASON,THE ONLY REASON YU SEEKOUT A PERSON

Ive watched those Tyler perry films and if they realistically represent black women in America then i gota say they are way to stuck up.

But at the same time in tyler perry films every black man is a devil, i think i have only seen a handful of decent black men in his movies so maybe its not realistic.

childless? what if I were previously married and fathered a child?

or, even better, how many black women are;
1. not criminals
2. not exclusively heterosexual
3. monogamous
4. fat free
5. CHILDLESS!

You need to subtract all the those negative bad black women from that 100.

WELL PUT!

Yeah, I’m a historian, and its always been that way for black men. But, we got brothers, uncles, fathers in the same situations. I love black men. I don’t care about all those fake rules. Just be loyal to me and hardworking, and we will put our two’s and few’s together and make magic happen. Black men are awesome.

This can’t be a one sided argument. I’m single and childless. I have a decent job and I’m in the process of getting a house. However, most of the Black woman that I come across are either stuck up or have two and three kids by four or five guys. Another thing that is a turn off for me is a Black woman with an attitude and 85% of you have that. For the first time in my life, I feel maybe I should go outside of my race because of the lack of Black woman out here that can satisfy my needs. Again, the argument can’t be one sided.

Sorry, but I disagree. If I have to do all of that stuff just so a woman would act right, I’ll walk away from here. Too many fish in the sea.

Amen!

f**k da article…there still are good black men still out there, reguardless da fact f they r rich,great job n childless. as da article puts “good” blk men aint made up of their employment,sex style or childless. it all starts at home. da way they was raised and educated,disaplined(spl chk) and mannered. i noe alot of gud blk men and they r nuthin wut dis article describes…am jest sayin.

That’s interesting. I fit the criteria of a “good black man.” But I also wonder about the reverse ratio and what is the criteria proposed for the “100 available black women?”

I think nigga women have unrealistic expectations. most black b***hes are dumpy looking ghetto fat and have a serious case of false self confidence.

In 750 countries 1 in 3 people are on snap isn’t true. Alot of countries don’t even have the program. When you post these stats would you also quote where you are getting them from.

I’m a single black male who is raising a daughter. So since I take care of my child and have not abandon her I am not eligible. Well that explains why I am a single black male parent, who has never been to prison makes over 50,000, is straight but can’t find a date.

how the hell do you know that those women arent there because of their rich husbands… what? rich women dont go to battered women’s shelters? Hell how many times have heard about the rich plastic surgeon that was tired of being married and kills his wife so he can live with his girlfriend?

Didnt that just happen out in California last month…. the guy’s lovely Asian wife is found dead in their mansion and his ass is no where to be found???

Many women now day’s have this fixed set of things and man should have they say they want a good man first they must make sure they are godly women then they will be able to reliaze what makes a good man. The question must be raised do those women really know what they want or do they just want there knight in shinning armor.

From one website and doesn’t reflect all of black america. Also it is off too because the ones on websites are the ones having problems meeting women anyway.

I’m not convinced that incidences of discovered criminality is a good argument, Angilix. Physical and sexual abuse is as prevalent in the middle and upper classes as they are in the lower classes. They’re simply discovered less.

The real issue is that black women are too picky when it comes to finding a “good black man”.

First of all, many don’t want to talk to anyone that isn’t over 6 feet tall, that wipes out a lot of men right there. There are many 5’10″/ 5′ 11″ “good black men” out there, but that isn’t good enough for women, as if these guys can change their genetic makeup.

Second of all women set unrealistic expectations on a man’s job/salary. Many “good black men” do very well, but don’t meet the requirement that many of these women want. Good job, you are narrowing the field down even more. I think the 30,000/year listed in the article is VERY low. From what I hear women want men who makes close to 6 figures and a man that makes If a man makes 60,000 – 75,000/year won’t be “enough”.

Thirdly they want you to have an athletic body type. While this is understandable to a degree, many of these women who want this are not the same way. You can’t expect something out of a man if you are not willing to do it yourself.

Fourth, many prefer a man with no kids. This is understandable to a point, but with the 3 criteria above the field just keeps getting narrower. But a man can still be a “good man” if he has a kid or two. He had a life long before the new woman came along.

I probably could go all day about the unrealistic expectations women put on many men and using all these criteria, then of course it will be around 3%. But there are good men that don’t meet all these requirements it’s just that many women mistake these requirement as making someone a “good black man”. Which is BS. If you are a “good black man”, but don’t meet any of the criteria above then chances are you will get passed over

This study is bulls**t. What does any of these ‘criteria’ have to do with being a good man…..Last time I checked any jackass can fit these very same criteria….and I am very much sure that more than 3% of black men fit these requirements. None of them has anything to do with one character such as….on marriage/divorce status, criminal record, EDUCATION, it is almost as if this study is designed specifically to bash black men assuming it is a study at all.

Hell, funny thing is since over 70% of black women are single…..i wonder if u take them same superficial qualities to a black woman would she past the test (i doubt it)

No, most women don’t care if you have kids especially if you are older. The fact that you are raising her says good things about you.

Hahaha! WTH is this? So if you have to be childless and being good looking and in shape to be good…. I wonder how many of those 100 women wanting this fit the description. Since I could be considered those things, would it be wrong if I felt that’s what a black woman has to be to be considered good.

I disagree they are always talking about black woman negatively. There are good black men and women. They keep positioning us against each other.

This is a BULLSH*T article!!!
Talking about where are the good black men, what about the good black women!!!

Let’s start with good looking and in shape — I have seen a lot of overweight, fat, obese black women out there way more than fat, obese black men out there. How about this here, the majority of black people (male and female) need to go on a diet!!! The food black people eat is killing our race!!! So I do not want to hear about overweight black men when a lot of women are guilty of that faction!!!

Men with kids — come on now, this article is acting like the majority of black women do not have children from previous relationships!!! Give me a break!!! Finding a potential significant other without kids is basically extinct!!! If that black man has children and takes care of his children, then give the man a break, he is doing what he is supposed to be doing!!! I know there are a lot of deadbeat dads out there, but there are a lot of deadbeat mothers out there as well!!!

The gay brother — I could care less, that makes it easier for me to date women!!! If that guy is gay, then leave him alone, he does not want you!!!

Black men in jail — this is a sad issue because there are a lot of brothers that have been in the system, but also you have to look at what they have done.

Brothers that are working, sorry to say that a lot of black women are superficial when it comes to this!!! Black women look down at blue collar men, but those men are working and some make a decent living working those blue collar jobs. Just because a man wears a suit to work does not mean he is making the big dollars!!!

In all sayings, a lot of black women (not all) do not know how to treat a good black man, they always dismiss these black men as weak or have nothing going on for them, that needs to change, and you wonder if a black man dates outside his race when that black man cannot even get a black woman to respect him. It is true. What ever happened to the LOVE!?!?!? It seems like this is all a competition. Get off the soapbox and try to be nice to each other!!!

The GOOD ones are staying the hell AWAY from those who write, say and believe BS such as this article. These studies RARELY states how the NO GOOD came into being, rail against those who perpetuate the creation of the myriad of anti social behaviors and statistics that follows the misbehavior.

The very items on the “checklist” being sought, many of the complainers LACK themselves. How many of these complainers have kids as teens, not raising them properly then turn around and COMPLAIN about what is lacking?

The SOURCE of the problems of those making the complaints, are those doing the complaining. Their poor decision making and bad judgement is never adequately dealt with, let alone ACKNOWLEDGED. And until that day occurs where one deals with the inconvenient TRUTH, Y.O.U will be in for a long wait and a SEARCH that will never end.

no, somebody for everybody.

Show me a NO GOOD MAN, and I will show you a no good parent that wasn’t worth a damn who FAILED to raise a good BOY so he would grow into becoming a good man.

simplyComplex_87 you are so correct, women of the today have lost a good sence of value of what a it takes to get a good man or to keep a good black man, criteria’s like this have made it hard for men like me I have kids, but that dose not stop me from treating a woman (CORRECT) my kids can be a trut to that they can tell any woman out there that, THIS MAN IS A GOOD MAN, and you know kids don’t lie, when there rased rigth.

No, it is one of many articles telling black women that we need to marry outside the race to find good men. I have seen several articles from this website proposing that as the solution. But black women can date who they want like everyone else. If the majority of bw only want to date bm so be it. If they want to date ir that is ok too.

But it is like movement on these sites telling black women there are no or not enough black men. And if you find one he doesn’t measure up.

and what actually makes a good BLACK WOMAN?
good looks?
a big butt?
a good job?

im getting a little tired of black women complaining and then rejecting a Blackman
because
he isn’t light skinned
they don’t like the car he drives
he dosent earn enough money
i heard one church girl complain that she got 2 degrees so she wont a carpenter??!
who do you think makes the furniture in your crib?
a racoon?

girl please!

1.does he think the world of you
2. does he treat you like a queen
3.if he isnt threatened by the fact that you might earn money then him then maybe…
4.judge a man by who is rather than what he has…
5.talk to the security guard,the mail guy…you just might be surprised

NewsOne, congratulations! You accomplished your goal for yesterday. I applaud you. I figured you would, but I held out hope that those “enlightened” few that love to come here and pretend to be down for unifying the people would see this for what it was. Yeah…no. You won. You have idiots popping off about “how black women are” and “how black men are.” Only a few had the good sense to look at this and take it for what it was–bulls**t. It’s good though. This pseudo-factual “report” that you guys put together helped to further the white organization that owns and operates this site’s agenda. Good looking out to all of you who contributed! Pat yourselves on the back!

Just a side note: Debating a report that is based on bogus data is like explaining to a two-year old capitalism.

wow

Ahhhh I KNEW I would find the ONE bottomline comment of truth…….

What is the real purpose of this article? I agree with the poster that said this is a divide and conquer tool. I have been married twice and not ashamed to say it. I married my first wife to keep our family together while I was in the military. I was not making $30k a year did that make me a “bad black man?” I was married to her 10yrs. My second wife, we have been together now over 11 years had our ups and downs and enjoying life together. Those that publish this garbage want to instill a sense of hopelessness in our community and appear to be our saviors. Please my sister’s don’t fall for it. I know there are some brothers out there with some messed up ways. You don’t have to deal with them. Ever notice there are never negative articles about other cultures relationships. Do you think that’s a coincidence?

I wonder if this study separates black men from where they hail from. For me as a Caribbean black man there is a big difference between Caribbean black men and American black men since the majority of the Caribbean black men i know have an education, no jail time, and make a decent salary, and first i want to say this why is it that if a black woman is looking for a black man and cant find one she still sleeps with the black man who treats her like crap and gets her pregnant and leaves and knowing that he has done this in the past to say no to him. Why is it that black men have no issue of going outside their race and marry white, Indian, or any other race when black women have issues with it, it is the 21st century stop living like it is the 19-20th century when you couldn’t do that. You can love whatever race you want and not be stuck dating one race like you are forbidden to go outside of it. It is time for you to wake up and realize there are other options out there for you, the world is out there and it is a big one. The other and final issue with this is that parenting, where is the parents of these black men to say no to drugs, gang life, and having anonymous sex and not taking care of your child when you have one. Don’t say it is your community that allows you to do this when you have so many people who are black you can look up to and mirror, you can mirror the president, you can mirror Colon Powell, MLK Jr. and other famous black men who did responsible things and had an education and did things the right way.

And the purpose of this story is…? PEACE.

To my brothers: Keep your head up. I hate the way the media tries to divide us. I know way too many GREAT black men to go along with this foolishness. Most of my black female friends are married to black men. Most of these men are making well above $30K. Some have degrees, etc some don’t. Some are just hard working brothers handling their business.

Some people want a man who is some kind of fantasy that they have made up in their heads. (Looking for someone to be perfect) In that case they will never find anyone because no one is perfect. For my sisters, there are black men all over the world not just in the United States. Don’t get caught up in stats. Be the best person that you can be because in the end greatness attracts greatness. You won’t have to look for a good black man because he will find you.

Ummm, looking around at these comments….Was I wrong girlfriend?

SO GOOD HEALTH NO KIDS OUT OF WEDLOCK SUCCESSFUL NO CRIMINAL RECORD AND LOVES BLACK WOMEN WILL NOT TREAT YOU LIKE SHYT… NOW CAN YOU TELL ME WHERE YOU GOT THESE STUDIES FROM? ARETHEY SCIENTIFIC OR YOU JUST BELIEVE PEOPLE WHO ARE SUCCESSFUL ARE BETTER? BECUASE YOU HAVE NO EVIDENCE TO BACK UP YOUR CLAIM.. JUST ASSUMPTIONS LIKE THESE DUMB BROADS THAT WROTE THIS ARTICLE… NONE OF THOSE THINGS DETERMINE WHATS IN YOUR HEART.. DO YOU KNOW THE THINGS THIS PERSON HAD TO DO MAYBE TO OTHERS TO GET TO THE LEVEL OF SUCCESS HE’S AT? NO YOU DONT.. DO YOU KNOW IF THIS PERSON CHEATED IN COLLEGE TO GET THAT DEGREE? OH YEAH COLLEGE STUDENTS DO CHEAT. DO YOU KNOW IF HE DOES HAVE KIDS OUT OF WEDLOCK BUT HE HAS MONEY SO HE CAN PAY THE WOMAN TO SHUT UP OR HOW MANY ABORTIONS HAVE WOMEN HAD FOR THAT MAN YOU CONSIDER O GOOD MAN.. INSTEAD OF TEACHIN WOMEN TO BE GOLDIGGERS AND TO LOOK FOR THEMAN WITH THE BIGGEST WALLET.. WHY NOT TEACH THEM TO LOOK FOR A KIND HEARTED MAN WHERE THEY CAN HELP EACH OTHER GROW? NOT BUT WHY GIVE BLACK MAN THAT CHANCE… HASNT WHITE AMERICA VILIFIED US ENOUGH NOW THEY HAVE YALL WOMEN LOOKING DOWN ON US. DAMN SHAME

I love how so many black people allow the white media to come in and hand us the very guns to shoot each other…Do any of you think white/asian/latino based sites do this to each other?

The very same dudes that holler ‘black power’ on this site day in and day out were all too quick to run right in this article and point fingers at the very same black women, on another forum, they claim to love sooooooooooo much….

If the hypocrisy wasn’t so very disgusting it would be hilarious!

We are the original people bound to ‘run’ this once again in time, and THEY are making damn sure we are as broken as possible before that time comes……Judging by these comments alone…..It’s working!

I’m curious to know, of those 100 black women how many meet the same criteria?

I don’t see why women; black women especially, cry about “good men” or no “good men.” When they find one, they dog him. Because their idea of a good man is one with money and that he should shower them with money until it runs out. Because by nature, the average black woman is “materialistic; MOSTLY ALL WOMEN are”. This materialistic nature of women in general, traces back to Eve. Inspite of God’s command for both Adam and Eve to not touch the ONE tree in the Garden of Eden, Eve allowed Satan to tempt her by telling her she would be like God having the knowledge of Good and Evil. It struck her as having some sort of power that she chose to forget what God warned her and Adam NOT to do. And like a fool, Adam listened to her when she convinced him to disobey God as well. Money, means power in today’s society and the number one thing that turns women away from good men is their lack of money. The lack of money can destroy a marriage, according to a woman, inspite of the golden rule of the Bible, “The Love of Money is the Root of All Evil.” And not only that, they don’t appreciate a man that has a job, period, especially if he’s not pampering her, lavishing her with money AND gifts! Women won’t lower their standards and want to brand ALL men as “no-good”, they rather be alone and miserable instead of being happy with someone whom they could grow together and help each other. Men, black men in particular(the decent ones), have to guard their money when it comes to the black woman. Many black men are in prison, or in their graves behind a greedy, manipulative, black “female”. They treat the black man with contempt if he don’t have enough money constantly calling him a failure. Then will selfishly use, manipulate or take advantage of him when he has it. Also, they use their children via alimony, and in a lot of cases, deceives him, having him pay for a child that’s not EVEN his! Black women need to accept the truth for what it is, and assess if they really want a man for who he is and not what’s in his bank account or what he can do for her!

I have a great black man in my life. Thank God for that. I know its hard to find a good man these days.

Glad to see someone that see’s this article for what it is.

The numbers do not add up. Some of the “flaws” listed could occur in a single man. These numbers reflect that every man eliminated only had one of these traits. If a man has been to jail, has children with another woman, works for minimum wage and only dates none black women then according to this “scientific” study four men would be removed. I believe that the same could be said about the availability of black women for black men using similar “important” standards.

Good that we finally have the stats to back up the arguments

Amen!!!

When are they gonna make an article about a good man looking for a woman that’s not superficial, childless, doesn’t think she looks better then she really does, doesn’t blame a man for her downfall but actually takes responsibility for her own actions, Doesn’t think that “I’m an educated woman” gives them the right to talk down to people and treat people anyway they want and doesn’t have a bad attitude?

SMDH!!!

I know a man who is the exact person you described. Six months into their marrigae she wanted a divorce and he shot her the day after it was final. That’s not every positive!!!

The process they went about for calculating this is flawed. They never considered set overlap. The set of people who have been to jail and high school drop outs has huge overlap. Go back and redo you’re math then come back to me.

These issues are DEEP and can be talked about forever.

haha

Really Angelix?? Really?? Superficial preference is not the sole determining factor of how successful a relationship will be. Those materialistic and superficial items should simply be viewed as a plus while in all actuality, obe (men and women) whould seek a partner that has intellectual depth and willing to become and remain a lifelong partner. Are you kidding me?? Those qualities discussed above only provides a chance to propel a relationship to another plateau (and that’s if done right) but whould be content with what the relationship provides to begin with. You mean to tell me you would skip over a man that lack these quality yet knows precisely how to treat you like a queen?? That was rhetorical but if u answered yes to that anyway, then you Micahel Jackson said it best, look in the mirror n make a change!!

A prime example of why this is bogus are the celebrities of today as well of back in the days. Tiger Woods meets all those quality, and what happened?? Oh I guess cheating on his wife with 30+ women is acceptable as a part of the bargain. Open ya eyes. And it’s not only becuase they have money because this goes on in middle, and lower class families as well. How about you hear it from the horse’s mouth. I more than meet all of those criteria but I would be telling myself a bold face lie if I say I’m good in relationships. I’m working on getting better at it, but I suck nonetheless……make a change, that’s all I ask, make a change and stop getting sucked up into shiney things for we all know not all that glitter is gold!!!

actually these stats make men who fit that criteria even more likely to screw you over! Always will look for the better deal or the other 99 women. trust I lived it!

You said it! Great points…I couldn’t agree more with what you said below.

>>>>”In addition to the ill-conceived criteria for a “good black man”, the math, if it can be called that is severely flawed. First, many of the disqualifying factors that they list are not necessarily c**ulative-meaning that the same black men that are unemployed may be the same black men that have no college, are overweight, have kids by another woman and have been to jail. Therefore, to deduct the full percentage for each category skews the number of available “good black men” dramatically downward. Second, the study makes no deduction for all of the black women that have no college, are overweight, have kids by another man and have been to jail. Instead it deducts from the pool of men down to three but leaves the pool of women at 100 presenting an outrageously bleak prospect of a black woman’s chances of connecting with a “good black man”.<<<<<<

I know a man who is the exact person you described. Six months into their marrigae, she wanted a divorce and he shot her the day after it was final. That’s not every positive!!! I think Simply Complex is far more attuned towards analyzing and seperating the wheat from the chaff. Besides the other 97 men are unaccounted for and some are keeping our communities together inspite of such articles like these subliminally driving us apart. So, don’t believe the hype, controversy sells AD space because viewers come in droves. So, whats more controversial than how we rate each other in the black community?

Well let’s see.

Black Male
Not gay.
Like black women.
Never been in Jail.
Has a high school diploma
Have a Job.
Make more than $30,000.
Is not obese

BUT
I was married (now divorced) and had kids with another woman.
Am a rock guitarist.

DAMN, The last two items takes me off the black woman’s hot list. OH WELL. LOL!!

Ha,ha,ha I just laugh at these dumb articles.There are plenty of good real brothers trying to find drama free non-religous nuts black females.Only problem a vast of these black women are using using distorted,racist eurocentric standards of so-called success to judge and elinimate good brothers in general.I am glad I stopped going to these wack clubs with all this cheesy,watered down music and being seen at these shopping malls or wallmart buying all this cheap slave made junk from china.
A vast % of these black women who are crying the blues ” oh I am successful ” but I can’t find a good brother seem to be very unware as to who is really behind all this social mayhem and gender bashing and confusion when it comes to black male and female relationship.Like one sister said on a talk show long ago ” shh quiet ” ole slave massa is listening he is plotting his next move when it comes to disrupting black male and black female relationships.Eugenics,population control and genocide is in full effect,go get a late pass.

This “criteria list” does sound like Gold Digger Central wrote it, doesn’t it? Sounds even more like the Atlanta, GA chapter wrote it. It’s good to know that superficiality is alive and well in the hood and now we know what the sistahs are looking for in what they think is a “good man”. You make a good point, that financial success, physical attractiveness, and not having bred children, is no guaranty that a woman has chosen a sane, balanced, loving partner. Just that she won’t have to fight for child support with a woman who bore his children before, and that she can take him to the cleaners in a divorce. Guard your grill brothers. The gold diggers are hunting for you and bypassing the rest. LOL!!!

The jail statistic eliminates doubt that the justice system purposefully targets black men in our society to cripple their future. Incarceration profoundly alters and often decimates the lives of both sexes, ultimately black family life…very tragic for both. Social engineering?

Their numbers are wrong. They are double counting their sets.

ok i got a record for disorderly conduct just for letting the police have it after calling me a racial slur… does this make me bad… nope…. Im in college, single with no kids, attend church regularly, etc. The same year I got arrested I acted like a complete jerk (granted Im bipolar), however, women were all in my face. Now Im a good chap and now percieved as a lame soft church boy. Seems to me many ladies want bad boys/thugs.

women can’t handle a good man, thats why this article is posted because the woman who wrote this was a cheat.

take those same stats and put that to a female and see if they all qualify. You will be suprised.

>>>>”The numbers do not add up. Some of the “flaws” listed could occur in a single man. These numbers reflect that every man eliminated only had one of these traits.”<<<<

BINGO!

There’re plenty or “good black men” around. Many of us just don’t date blackwomen. And the 3% that do date blackwomen, have’nt come to their sences yet.

There are so many things wrong with this article I don’t even know where to begin;
1. The methodology of calculation is so batsh*t, you can’t treat each variable like it’s a separate entity when some of them can and do overlap
2. So just because men date interracially means that they swear off all black women
3. Let’s be real all of those “sistas” are not going to be prime candidates either
4. whomever wrote this needs to take a __!

@SimplyComplex_87 That’s what’s up sista!! I will have to admit it’s not TO often you hear a female speak like that it’s mainly about what a man can do for them and this and that. I’m a black man with NO kids, good looking, and a GED hmm…. oh and jobless does this make me NOT a good man? Not hardly and am in great shape too. With this study I would think it does make me not a GOOD MAN….what i’m finding out that people don’t get to know the person they are more focused on the situation a person is in.

Which in my opinion get to the know the person and you will LEARN why they are in whatever situation they are in. Example you hear a brotha doesn’t have a job oh he lazy, and broke well I bet if ya take the time to get to know him you’d know that he was laid off his job and not FIRED! (general statement). Now another thing I don’t get with this study black women don’t want a man who already has kids now how ironic is that when they have children of their own?

I like talking about these type of things with people just to see where their minds are and let me tell you it is a disappointment.

Actually it is. Loook at the societal claas s from which the majority of criminals are derived. It’s mostly the lower middle to lower class

Interesting indeed.
But, one has to contemplate the Biblical notion that a good woman is still a one in a million find.

With that, good men still have good women out numbered.

“so these things are what make a “good” black man? lol…a straight man who is fine and rich with no kids can still treat his woman like s**t.”

That’s kind of a ‘no s**t sherlock’ comment. Of course anyone can treat you badly no matter their situation. Are the chances as likely? Probably not but there is no such data on this study to state as such. Of course there is the fact that most divorces come to that destination because of issues when dealing with income and that it’s the major point of arguments in marriages.

- By the way. Since when the hell did $30k become rich? In what world? I wish someone told me that I was rich.

“anyone who is remotely influenced by the content of this article ought to be ashamed of themselves…don’t believe the hype, folks. this is just another attempt to divide and conquer.”

That’s just the same ol’ crap I see on this board. Divide and conquer by who? Black people!? It’s a study by a black institution. They are dividing and conquering themselves? Quit being overly defensive about every article you see and thinking ‘Oh no! They are out to get us’. It’s just a study done and information passed on. If someone sees more into it than that then that falls upon themself and not the source of the information. We should all have a mind of our own, I would hope at least.

As for the ‘hype’. A lot of this information is actually good. So you’re telling me you only look at it to find a divide factor? You don’t bother to look and see how many of our young black males are graduating high school and obtaining GED’s? You are not bothering to see that our black men are having a short lifespan than other races because of our health? You are not seeing that we as black men are not pulling a very medicore $30k a year? You are not seeing how many of our black men are having children out of wedlock and not alarmed? Or how about the fact 66% of our children don’t have a father at home?

Quit looking for the trigger to yell, proclaim and be defensive and look at something with some depth and realize some of these figures are alarming to our community and people.

So as for if those that fall into such a criteria will treat a woman better or not who knows. It does show that they do for themselves, care about who they are and what they do in life. Maybe it shows they have a goal, a direction and a purpose. I myself fall into that criteria. I have been married 13 years, we have three beautiful kids, I easily make more than that $30k and I have never been in jail. Have I ever struck my wife? Hell no and would throw my own damn ass in jail if I did and told my son to put me in my place if I ever did (granted he said, ‘how? You’re bigger and stronger than me so not like I can stop you’). And we are easily happily married since we are speaking of renewing our vows.

So you guys have examples of those like Tiger Woods for showing one direction against the study. Well I am an example in the direction that follows the study. You can always find examples in either direction. It’s about what is ‘most likely’ or ‘more probable’.

As an engineer by training, I can firmly state whoever wrote this article would get an “F” in statistics!

For example, in point #1, if there are 145 million women and 139 men (and that percent hold true for blacks), then there are 96 black men for EVERY 100 women. NOT 87 for every 100.

There’s also a LOT of double counting. For example, some of the men without high school diplomas may also be homosexual. Those men are counted twice in this story.

Whatever!

youre full of crap. I dont even think youre black in the first place.

I have to agree with you to some degree let me see if I can paint an interesting picture for you. When we are little boys growing up we are told or taught how to treat a lady and what is right to say and what is not right. I really want you to think about this for a second how many little girls are taught to treat a man? Now leave out the one’s who have actually been taught how i’m talking about the ones who have not been taught. It’s rather sad if you really sit back and think about it and you have studies like this that in my opinion are rather interesting.

>>>”Ever notice there are never negative articles about other cultures relationships. Do you think that’s a coincidence?” <<<<

I noticed, and it's not coincidental….

I agree with what you are saying here, these criteria are by no means ridiculous.

The math just doesn’t add up. The article assumes that all of the categories are mutually exclusive. However, many men would be included in multiple categories. For example, a person may not have a high school diploma and be out of work. Therefore, the actual number of men that meet all of the “criteria” would be much higher. Just another divisive, inaccurate article that provides no productive purpose.

Hey did anyone read my comment on the author of the site. She is a WHITE woman. So most of you are being fooled by a white woman. Go to bestblackdatingsites dot org and click in “about” and you will see the white b***h who wrote this s**t. Stop being a dumb f**k

Lol…This article is stupid and intentionally provocative.

One has to question who is behind “The Grio”, and what their true intentions are, because articles such as these only serve to inflame tensions and discord between Black men and women. Not to mention giving more ammunition to bigots and racists, with which to attack Black folks.

Yes, the natural reaction is for Black women to go “mmmm hmmm preach!”, and Black men to counter-attack Black women, but I refuse to be a part of their little “social experiment”, where they pit one side against the other, and sit back and observe the chaos.

I will simply say that we as a people (men AND women) need to stop allowing ourselves to be manipulated by a society that tries to tell us what criteria we should be using to judge potential mates, but then does everything within it’s power to make sure that we as a people, are unable to meet those criteria.

The game is rigged baby…Don’t be fooled by the devil.

P.S. A commenter has just verified my suspicions about the writer (White woman) of this stupid sh!t, and her intentions (to stir up sh!t between Black Folks)…Thanks Mungu1

So you believe most violent crime is committed by the rich because of a couple of high profile examples. That’s not a reasonable conlusion.

Well now I will not apologize for having kids, but I’m 40 years old and life happens. Been divorced mainly because I was too young for marriage and still needed to grow, no adultery, no jail and no violence in my past. I’m not fat/obese, I’m caring and I adore my kids. Treated my wife like a queen, worked two jobs while she stayed at home her choice, turnover my entire paycheck to her for to pay bills and taking care of all the family issues. What more can I give to please woman? Call me old school but I still believe a man should do all he can to make his woman happy, problem is some women always want more, or they thinking they can do better. If you can do better than enjoy your adventure, don’t let me hold you back. I have never stopped believing that there is a woman that will appreciate all that I do, love me for who I am and not for who she dreams I will be.

I don’t need a woman who is only there when things are good and looking for an exit when things are bad. Life is hard but there is nothing we cannot achieve if we work together, all these stats prove nothing. Everyone will be judge on their own choices and behaviors, as man born poor or rich all his choices are his own. Ladies I cannot speak for all I know is that many women walk pass good men everyday and still ask the question where are all the good men at?

If you want to know where all the “good” Black men are, ask a white woman.

We have to be very careful to make sure that articles like this do not divide us as a people. The only lesson we should learn is that we black people have to work hard to portray a positive image of ourselves because the world is watching and using any of our vulnerabilities against us. We need to raise strong black families with the strong black man at the head of it. I dont care if you work at burger king, mcdonalds, or a janitorial job. Just do right by your black woman and be there for her and your children. Black men we need you to be our role models and our backbone. I have a strong black man and i still care about the plight of black relationships in general. I want us to grow stronger as a race cause we cant even begin to love other people until we begin to love ourselves.

This is bs! Why come we are the only ones have to degrade the african american culture by having stupid polls like this one?

Calm down. Firstly what part of “positives that increase the likelihood ” did you not understand. Secondly, how did that statement get misconstrued into the “the sole determining factor”?

Thank you so much on the correction.

Exactly. Saying this study is completely flawed is ridiculous and I have no idea how the hell $30k equals rich lol. I sure as hell would like my daughters to bring someone home that has a good job, hasn’t been in a prison rotation, has at least a freaking diploma and takes care of himself. Their figures about the 3 for every 100 black women is off but nothing wrong with the information or criteria they are presenting.

Folks are saying ‘Just something to spread the negativity!’ Well open your eyes folks. We are falling off as a race, a culture, as a community. Being ignorant to it does little to nothing. This isn’t spreading negativity. It’s what’s happening in front of our eyes but we want to keep closing our eyes and go into defensive mode.

We are making the lowest test scores in this nation (yes, hispanics have passed us in most scholastic categories)

We are having unemployment issues.

We are pulling in the lesser incomes ($30k is freaking chump change and all should be making as such. I was making that over ten years ago and I’m only 34)

We are not finishing high school and obtaining our diplomas.

We are having children out of wedlock and plain old not being true fathers to our children.

We are dying younger than other races and have obesity issues within our communities.

But hey it’s spreading negativity! We’re so busy worrying about that, that we’re not getting off our asses to fix none of these issues. We’re good for yelling, ranting and walking in marches. Not so much for getting up and making a true change.

You all look at words like Simply’s and go ‘Right on!’ but instead you all should be looking and saying some of this ‘criteria’ that they are presenting would only enhance or make us better men. Don’t know about you all but I rather our brothers stay out of jail. I would rather our brothers did make $30k+. I would rather we did stop having baby mama’s everywhere and be true fathers. I would rather we took care of ourselves and actually gave a damn about our health.

But hey you guys don’t seem to care enough about your own people to want advancement…go figure.

What you care to elaborate on this more please? I’m interested in hearing your thoughts.

Tell me, Jayevans20 what part of all that stuff is so difficult to do?
I know you have the black part down. I know you have at least a high school diploma judging from your penmanship and vocabulary. You’re not gay. So all that’s left is to not be obese, make at least 30k a year, no baby mamas, and not be a criminal. If you can’t meet those basic goals then our women are in bigger trouble than I thought.

I agree with you. This is ridiculous.

agreed

Studies? Who said anything about studies? It’s common sense . If you are a happy sucessful person you tend to be kinder to those around you.

Wow this chic Natassia has everyone riled up…..I have a question for her, when was the last time she has been to a black community? Does she have Black people in her life? I am not talking about driving by and looking at a book or reading an article on the Black community. Since she knows about all the things liberalism has done to be an enemy of black women…my question to her is what good has the “right” (Neo Cons) or Gop done to help black people period. I know this is a free country and all, but what is a white woman doing on this forum talking about our community like she knows something about it. It sounds like to me she is a privileged person looking down on our community in the disguise of help. It is a fact that we must do better, but I am not going to standby while some heckler shouts and boosts and pretends as if she and her Caucasian comrades, past and present don’t have anything to do with the current state of Black America. Natassia is on here playing a game throwing a lot of knee-jerk reaction statements out there and she sounds somewhat knowledgeable, because a lot us are not abreast to current news and trends happening around us today.
To show Facts of what a good liberal has done for America you have to look no further than here.
Believe it or not Newsone has a article post on this actual website; it’s called “An open letter to Cornel West, Tavis Smily, and the Obama Critics. Check it out it lists some of the good things he has done since in office and there are other forms on the web that expound upon this further. I think it’s a list of 100 plus things.
As far as good reading on the privileged of this country goes, Tim Wise.
I have love for my Black women all day.

I gotta give props to Joe Madison for teaching me soooooooo much….

Amen Simply. When I was in the dating scene, I searched my heart and figured out what I was truly looking for (God-fearing, hardworking, good father material).

Then my king appeared…divorced, he had 2 biological plus 1 stepchild and he worked in a factory with a high school diploma. To his credit, he prays like a champ, loves all of our kids equally and his work ethic is impeccable.

When people meet us and find out that I have a PhD and that I am a senior scientist at a Fortune 500 biotech company, they wonder how my husband and I got together. I tell them that I had my priorities straight before I met him and he fit my top three criteria, and 13 years later I am the luckiest, happiest, most blessed woman alive!

Hey did anyone read my comment on the author of the site. She is a WHITE woman. So most of you are being fooled by a white woman. Go to bestblackdatingsites dot org and click in “about” and you will see the white b***h who wrote this s**t. Stop being a dumb f**k

Well, how many good Blackwomen are there for every good Blackman? A Blackman in his thirties or forties would be very lucky to find a Blackwoman, who has not already diminish her life by her poor choices, poor attitude and lack of control of her weight.

what are you kidding

WOW!!!! Yep, ladies that’s what we’re working with…………………………Some exceptions I would take, been to jail-but no felonies. Obese by ‘who’s’ standards, maybe kids by another mother if there is no ‘baby mama’ drama, There I think I have opened up mychoices from 3 to about 20, lol, IDK, this study is funny azz hell…………..

Wow this chic Natassia has everyone riled up…..I have a question for her, when was the last time she has been to a black community? Does she have Black people in her life? I am not talking about driving by and looking at a book or reading an article on the Black community. Since she knows about all the things liberalism has done to be an enemy of black women…my question to her is what good has the “right” (Neo Cons) or Gop done to help black people period. I know this is a free country and all, but what is a white woman doing on this forum talking about our community like she knows something about it. It sounds like to me she is a privileged person looking down on our community in the disguise of help. It is a fact that we must do better, but I am not going to standby while some heckler shouts and boosts and pretends as if she and her Caucasian comrades, past and present don’t have anything to do with the current state of Black America. Natassia is on here playing a game throwing a lot of knee-jerk reaction statements out there and she sounds somewhat knowledgeable, because a lot us are not abreast to current news and trends happening around us today.
To show Facts of what a good liberal has done for America you have to look no further than here.
Believe it or not News One has a article post on this actual website; it’s called “An open letter to Cornel West, Tavis Smily, and the Obama Critics. Check it out it lists some of the good things he has done since in office and there are other forms on the web that expound upon this further. I think it’s a list of 100 plus things.
As far as good reading on the privileged of this country goes, Tim Wise.
I have love for my Black women all day.

I gotta give props to Joe Madison for teaching me soooooooo much….

Really! so …success equates to happiness? That’s what your saying right (lol) Stop with the bulls**t lies.

Ruh-Roh, Somebody is paying attention…………….

And only 2 “GOOD” black women for every 100 black men?

So Sad!!!!!

BaddaDanU doesn’t know much of anything.
Being a special needs child tends to create that circ**stance.
Anyone who says anything BaddaDan can’t spell, read or understand is a fascist.
(Example: BaddaDanU’s grade school teachers)

I do believe it all true but some women are so picky and there passing up the good ones they run into. You can’t get all the qualities you want in a man. It’s ALWAYS going to be a flaw.You have to learn to settle. Which qualities can you do without and which ones you are not going to do without. As far as the man going to jail all of them probably have been you have to look pass some of that to because it could have been when they were a teen. Also when a real man do come along women scare them away. Women just make sure you are ready for a good man before you start your search. I believe a good man comes by every woman if you pass him up than he’s gone maybe another will come. That’s all I can say.

Major props to Natassia for putting that idiot BaddaDanU (i.e. the worst society has to offer) in his place and giving some insight on this.

BaddaDan’s statement that the Bible and the entire Christian faith isn’t about turning to Jesus Christ for salvation is the dumbest thing written since his name was placed on a Birth certificate.

Look nobody’s perfect and these very basic criteria are not asking for the perfect man.
If the women you are interested in are looking for bad boysthugs, then you need to look elsewhere.

Jazz this is serious! As 2 of the 3 good black men to every 100 black women, we have to do our part. It is our responsibility, OUR RESPONSIBILITY, to sleep with those 100 women. Jesse Jackson has already started. Are you with me my brother?

This f**kn article is about ‘too few good black men’ being available for a sistah, Not some irritating ass-itching dialoque, from yet ANOTHER CAUCASIAN. I do not know why yall entertain, him,her, it, s**t I don’t know, we have bizness to discuss. There is no relevant discussion with ‘Natassia’, none. Honestly, I already know, understand, lived with, tired of , people who ‘think’ like her ( I live right in Ohio, that is THEE thinking here in general) she does not surprise and it’s very old. I like the dialoque between the brotha and sistahs, I really wanna know what ‘you’ guys think. Very tired of logging on and the discussion always ends up with a CAUCASIAN PERSON on a majority black website. Sure others are necouraged to join in, but EVERY FRIGGIN TIME, c’mon …………………….The blacks folks did not invent the freakn benefits from the governement, whites did, and were the very first in line. In addition it is a fact that Most of the individuals who enjoy or use the government benefits are white people. Their the majority right, and not for long, but for right now they are the ones, using most of the snap benefits, I had never even freakn heard of that, da’ f**k is a SNAP?

What about the man’s spiritual belief in God or a higher power or not? What about the man’s upbringing and family backgound; Who taught him how to be a man, his Momma, reading books, his friends or he just inheritedly new? Has the man ever abused drugs and alcohol, or maybe still does? What is the percentage of women with no children seeking a man with no children?

Angilix, your argument is weak at best. We can look at other statistical anomalies as a reference point. Black people make up roughly 15% of the population and use illicit drugs at a proportional rate. That is, we use at rates that are to be expected given our representation in the population. However, we make up nearly 40% of all drug arrests. The reasons why we make up nearly 40% of all drug arrests vary: from police investigating poorer neighborhoods more often than richer neighborhoods to being less able to cover up criminality. We can look at case studies in New York (New York State Department of Correctional Services, 2007) or Illinois (The Disproportionate Incarceration of African Americans for Drug Crimes: The Illinois Perspective, 2005). That level of disproportionate representation is impossible without racial or socioeconomic bias in police and justice procedure. Again, the level of representation is not an indicator of likely criminality, it’s an indicator of how likely you are to get caught doing criminal behavior.

Returning to the main topic: there is a growing body of literature on physical and sexual abuse in the middle class. Susan Weitzman wrote an excellent book on the issue of domestic abuse in the “higher” classes (“Not to People Like Us”: Hidden Abuse in Upscale Marriages). In 1991, 1 in 5 middle class women cited violence as the reason for their divorces (EAP digest, Nov./Dec. 1991). Another study, relatively small sample, found that 40% of Ohio, middle class women cited violence against them as reason for divorce, where only 23% of the sampled women, who were lower class, cited violence as their reason for divorce. One of the conclusions that the study came to was that middle class women were also less likely to report it publicly, because they had more options to hide it. And interestingly, as income and education increase, the idea that hitting your spouse is acceptable also increases.

A Boston University prevention site notes the following: “Researchers and service providers have found, however, that economic and social factors can have a significant impact on how people respond to violent incidents and what kind of help they seek. Affluent people can usually afford private help – doctors, lawyers and counselors while people with fewer financial resources (i.e., those belonging to a lower economic class or a minority group) tend to call the police or other public agencies. These agencies are often the only available source of statistics on domestic violence, and consequently, lower class and minority communities tend to be overrepresented in those figures, creating a distorted image of the problem.”

Your advice, as well meaning as you might think it is, is setting up women for a lot of trouble. Women should not be looking for socioeconomic status if their concern is proper treatment, but instead, personal characteristics that are conducive to healthy, long-term relationships. Abuse cuts all corners of the socioeconomic spectrum.

“When the wives/mothers of today fail to raise quality sons, the next generation of women will not find quality husbands”. Umfortunately, African women are not interested in African men from motherland African. it just won’t work b/cos african men back home are traditional and can’t put up with the “over civilized attitude” of african-american women. too bad for ya all sisters over there.

“When the wives/mothers of today fail to raise quality sons, the next generation of women will not find quality husbands”. Umfortunately, African women are not interested in African men from motherland African. it just won’t work b/cos african men back home are traditional and can’t put up with the “over civilized attitude” of african-american women. too bad for ya all sisters over there.

Not a problem. I am here to help.

I think articles like this are bulls**t- I’m a good black man- been told that- but these women want a guy who never existed- there are no perfect ppl. Recently I was with this closet s**t- who intrigued me because she had such intellect and interests but she really wanted to hunch on everybody- she had no furniture- I bought her furniture, tried to hel her kin she lived with with business, the sex was weak- but honestly she had hang ups that were not safe or respectful. I created art for her, cooked for her, tried to find ways for her to make money- it MEANT NOTHING! and the problem is there are a bunch of women like that- not so much on the s**tty side but they want men they can control or expect to take care of them- something needs to change- because black women as who are really beginniing to look like they are full of s**t- and the good ones get overlooked because of pop culture and crappy articles that keep s**t going between men and women. Ease off our nuts and be a partner- not so f’k'n picky- when half of you have significant shortcomings or problems that you want men to accept and love you to the fullest- can’t do that if y’all keep treating the good ones half ass and praise the bad abusive weirdos and sweetbooty DL mfkas.

This is an improper use of statistics. This assumes that the 100 available women are also “good” Meaning they don’t have children by someone else, they have a job, and education look good/stay in shape. Now, as a black woman I can say that “100 available women” dwindles down very quickly.

People need to stop focusing on their laundry list of attributes and find someone who is going to love them and treat them they way they want to be treated. You can’t do that with tunnel vision and you definitely can’t do that if you don’t have YOUR stuff together. Just because you’re a black woman doesn’t mean you “deserve” a good black man.

Please don’t let this article influence you because it has stats and “sources.” Work on you and everything will fall into place.

I know news one is owned by a white men because this is such a hypocritical site

I appreciate you sharing…My closest Sistah friend is living the picture of you:)

Since when is $30,000 a year RICH or SUCCESSFUL? DAMN….that’s just asking for a black man who can pay his own rent and utilities and car note and health insurance. If black men are complaining about black women needing them to atleast make $30,000 a year then you must be asking them to choose someone to support them and their future children with a McDonald’s salary…lol. The typical blue collar job will pay $30,000 a year, so stop making it seem like black women are asking you to be Donald Trump. $30,000 is a hell of alot less than white women expect from their men. TRUST black women are asking for little….the bare neccessities of a good mate. Black men…truthfully, these would be the qualifications you would want your daughters to marry. Truthfully…ALOT of our men do to the oppression they suffer not by their own doing suffer the following which make them NONMARRIAGE material…certainly moreso than black women…. CRIMINAL RECORDS, GAY, LOVERS OF NON BLACKS, STD’S, UNHEALTHY, UNEMPLOYED, ABUSERS, DRUG ADDICTS, ALCOHOLICS, UNEDUCATED. Black women suffer these ailments too but a a great lower number than our male counterparts…yet it is the black woman who is bashed for not being “good enough to marry” REALLY THO’ !?! If all I ask is for you to have a highschool diploma, make a blue collar wage, be std free, love black women, stay out of jail, don’t do drugs, and wear protection if you have sex before marriage so you don’t have alot of kids running around by different women(black women..take heed TOO!! with our different babydaddies lol!) Then I am asking very little of you and you not being able to at least LEAST fit this minimum bill is ABSURD and says that you are NONMARRIAGE material. An article that a white woman wrote explaining a white womans attraction to black men stated that white women don’t see black men as good marriage partners but they get with black men for their sexual prowlness and the fact that when they get with white women they worship them. This is something they don’t find with their white male partners. And black men gloat and brag over the fact that women only find value in their p***s size and sexual abilities. YOU HAVE MUCH MORE THAN THAT BLACK MAN!!! You are a living breathing god, so if you ask me…we may be asking for too little from you, because it was your likeness that built great dynasties and empires in the motherland, it was you who was the great warrior of the earth, you and your black woman began civilization….you can do so much more than this little check list ….and so can us black women, cause alot of us (though less than you) don’t fit the bill either. PEACE & LOVE!

I have to bring out my nerd side on this one….those statistics are totally off. I hate to burst the bubble of the person that put this report together but I’m not even a statistician and can see that it doesn’t make any sense. Why are they assuming that all of the categories are mutually exclusive? For example, it’s really likely that a large majority of the felons also make up the unemployed, as well as the group that doesn’t make 30k a year and even the group without GEDs. So you shouldn’t subtract all those percentages independently, you have to figure out how much those groups overlap because you are double counting the same ‘bad’ few people in many different categories……

But aside from the lousy statistics, shouldn’t we be correlating how many ‘good’ black men are available for ‘good’ black women? I’m just saying…..we can discriminate also

I actually find it amusing how many of them are saying, “Your Numbers Are Wrong”…and then start in with their own wrong, unfounded numbers:)

Rat-On Sistah…

Couldn’t have said it any better!

Well I meet all those criteria except one, I have a 17 yr old daughter (she did live with me for 4 yrs (11-16yrs) while her mother was “visiting a goverment facility”. I have a bachelors, have a job, want a black woman and everthing else this list states (never been arrested, ect). The problem is that black women dont want me. Here are the reasons I have been given:
1. I am too short (I am 5′-6″).
2. I am too lite (my skin color is to lite).
3. I am too nice (please explain that one)
4. I dont look my age (I am going to be 48 in Nov. but I am passing for mid 30′s)
5. I dont look my age (I say this again because women my age dont thing I am their age, women collage age or late 20′s to mid 30′s think I am thier age, when they find out I’m not, I get kicked to the curb).

I agree with many of your comments, though this article is meant to “stir the pot” and utter b.s. in my opinion. But I have encountered the issues you are speaking of, I’m 6’2 and have been told I was too short, some women will not talk to a brotha unless they make at least 6 figures, ha that wipes out like 96% of brothas right there especially in this economy, and I do scoff at the “bbw” who want the Boris, Morris, or Shemar type, but looking like Monique from Precious, I’m just saying. Oh and I laugh at the sistas who flaunt their education, “Oh I have a degree.” Good for you! I’m glad we are getting educated, I have 3 degrees, a Bachelor’s and two Master’s, but I don’t flaunt that or throw it in someone face, it’s just a piece of paper.

You must have missed some of my earlier posts. I live in a town of about 4,500. Most of the black folks in my county reside in my town or the 5,000-person town across the street. The elementary school where my children would go is disproportionately minority, which is why it is a Title 1 school. About 1 in 4 children is black. Over 1 in 10 is Hispanic. That should give you a pretty good idea of what my town is like.

I grew up in a rural town where blacks lived on one side of the tracks and whites lived on the other. It was self-segregated. But we were bused to school together, and my best friend was a mixed-race girl who didn’t know her father. Not only did I enjoy her company (she was a sweet girl), but she provided protection against the bullies in her neighborhood. I was introduced to black culture in the ’90s by black adolescents. My first boyfriend (it lasted a week and we danced at a sixth grade social together) was a mixed-race boy. Sweet kid. I had my friend break up with him for me at the playground.

Anyway, enough nostalgia. My point is, I have plenty of experience with black folks, including close relationships with them and living among them as neighbors. My sister’s business relies on large black men to provide security–she has hired the largest black men in her city I think. And most of them are Teddy bears, especially when confronted with fluffy Pomeranian puppies.

I am not a big fan of neo-conservatism. Neo-cons believe in “spreading democracy” through warfare and nation-building, and so we end up with Islamofascist regimes like what have sprung up in Egypt, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, etc. Neo-cons also refuse to deal with the third-world immigration that is destroying our country (and making it more difficult for young black American men to find employment.) I am a conservative of the traditionalist variety–the really scary kind. :)

I already blamed whites for the mess of liberalism. It is just that too many blacks have bought into the Progressive program of “hate men (especially white ones) and take their wealth through taxation.” Each one of us is only responsible for the individual choices we have made (and the crappy votes we may have cast. I never voted for Bush, nor Obama, so my conscience is clear in that respect.)

No political party should be in the business of “helping black people.” What are you, an invalid? Handicapped? Learning disabled? You don’t need help. Be a man, for God’s sake and help yourself and your fellow Americans rather than expecting some politician to “help.”

Government doesn’t help. It distorts, discourages, and manipulates. Just look at the districts that vote politicians like Rangel, Waters, Jackson-Lee, etc. into office. What have they ever done to “help” their constituents? Not a bloody thing.

Scroll through the comments, I wrote a lot yesterday.

Except the numbers don’t support such a plan. Twice as many black men are in interracial relationships as black women. The reasons for that could be many, such as: maybe men of other races typically don’t want to date black women, or maybe black women typically don’t want to date men of other races, etc.

Counties, genius. Counties.

Yes, Shawn, success does relate to happiness. If you are successful in your education you have the Skills to apply toward the creation of a better life for yourself. If you are successful in your career or work you have the Tools to use toward that creation. If you are successful in your relationships you have the Confidence and Self esteem need to execute your plan toward achieving your goals. And most important if you are successful with your Creator you have the Faith necessary to realize your goals. With all that success what is there to be unhappy about. Talk about superficial.

Define “conservative.” Ever been to a gay club? I have never met so many mean, catty men in my life. Yes, as a woman it is safe to party with them, but they are definitely not more friendly than, say, a group of conservative American men would be. In fact, I would say they are less so.

You are equating conservative Islamic countries made up of Middle Easterners, Asians, and Africans with conservative Christian countries made up of Westerners. That’s like comparing apples with pumpkins.

Be intellectually honest with yourself and us and define conservatism by what it is a society is trying to conserve rather than lumping all societies as the same just because some folks call them “conservative.”

You are also engaging in a common logical fallacy by pointing to a politician’s actions as proof that conservatism in America is a bad thing. What you need to prove is how mandatory HPV vaccinations are conservative. Good luck.

the problem is too much black women as well as men are too self centred with their needs which equates to being selfish and alone for the rest of there life or never having a longlasting relationship.

Cosign 100%
My views are probably grumpier and more reactionary than most here, but I’d like to see the entire project of negritude questioned. It doesn’t work, in my opinion. All these sociopathies accepted or excused as black authenticity are signs of disease, not culture. And defending them, for those who do, ought to be a greater embarrassment among black people.

If this article’s brief exercise in logical reduction can’t persuade large numbers of black people to expect more of ourselves, then it ought to be a decisive argument for black women to date somebody besides black men. Evolution is differentiation, and it may be that the only chance for survival of blackness is if there is far less of it as it’s currently constituted. There is a glaring necessity to breed an altogether different kind of black men. Hybridization may be the only way to do so.

One can only hope that 3 percent of eligible young black men are of substantially better stock than the 97 percent they’ve outdone by a few measures of social competence.

Speaking of sprinkling crap, what the heck was this?

“Worshiping white people is not the answer.” ???

You shouldn’t worship anyone but the Lord, and I don’t recall ever saying anything to the contrary.

Black people are doing a damn good job of wiping themselves out with very minimal help from white people. White people just supply the tools (abortion, weapons, etc.)There is no more dangerous place in America for blacks than in the womb. The next most dangerous place is in a majority-black city. Black people are victimized by black people every minute, in such disproportionate numbers that black people often feel safer in groups of white people than around groups of blacks. A black man is safer at an all-white Tea Party rally than a West Indian parade in New York. Explain that.

Think about it…..when are “we” most happy?? When we are working and have money to pay the bills, go on vacations and buy the things that we want. We when exercise and feel good and healthy. Knowing that… if you lost your job “you” would be more likely to find another job because you’ve never been incarcerated and have an education. And lastly….you have that extra money because you don’t have two or three baby mama’s hounding you for child support. Show me a Black man that has child support hunting him down, can’t find a job because of lack of education, or jail time, and I’ll show you an unhappy Black man. That’s all we are saying.

I can’t say I agree. i just like the way you think.

Yep!

The key word is “we”!

I don’t believe anyone writing this kind of garbage, has the interests of Black folks at heart.

Agreed!

Black women and their fairy tales :D

No one’s perfect. It’s funny how this “study” never turned it’s sights on the black women category. They didn’t even touch that side. Do that, and you’ll see that the stats match up.

You can’t be the typical, ghetto “shenaynay” and be expecting all that from a man.

That definition is a poor one, and copy-pasted in all sorts of Internet articles with little to no definition given for the term “right-wing.” It is a crappy definition, just as would be a definition of communism as a “left-wing system.” It is a non-definition, and everyone with half-brain who understands the art of logical argument knows that.

States’ rights is an interesting concept, but it can often be blown out of proportion to its importance. Not everything can be a matter of “state’s rights” because then it would be very difficult to have a UNITED States of America, now wouldn’t it? This is why we have a process of adding or removing Constitutional amendments…a process that today’s Progressives ignore, and for good reason. But I digress..

I think you mistake Christian conservatism with Christian theocracy. I, for one, am not interested in implementing Biblical commandments into U.S. law, although we do already do so to some extant (punishing perjury, theft, murder, etc.)

You can’t have a successful democracy without virtuous people. Revival of Christian morals begins in the home, not in government. But if Christian societies do not want the government to recognize certain sexual relationships, or doesn’t want the government to financially reward bad decision-making, then as self-governing people they should have the right to vote people into office who will, within the law, work to follow their constituents’ wishes. That is how democracy works, remember?

Republican politicians are like Democratic politicians in that they seek to make reelection easier. It is no different than redistricting taken up by Democrats in the past. What I find interesting is this underlying assumption that Democrats have that urban black folks will always vote Democrat and that by redistricting, it disenfranchises the Democrat vote in some way. Is the black vote so taken for granted by Democrats? Voting is an individual choice, and just because someone voted one way a few years ago doesn’t mean he will do so again. Where one lives is also an individual choice.

I don’t see what laws are being implemented that make it harder for Democrats to vote. Maybe you could provide some examples. But be careful, you may end up insulting the very people you claim to defend.

And how many successful people do we know that cheat, and is on drugs, and have other kids? I’m not gone even name all of the celebrities that struggle with that everyday problem. In fact when I was in Chicago earlier this year listening to the radio. And the tittle of the show was “Financially Stable Women Who Cheat”. So many women called in to explain how they attached happiness to being financially stable. And now that they are financially stable, they’re not happy. Instead of accepting a man for who he was, they accepted him for what he had. And the result is they’re unhappy! They cheat daily, and they also know that their men cheat. But at this point they have accepted that the relationship they have is their own fault. Why? Because they associated love with superficial things, and now their so called love has giving them a life of infidelity unhappiness!

Here is the problem with this study…

1. It does not take into account that black women, like most human beings, are just as into the superficial things as the men who reject them.

2. It does not take into account that there are a lot of good brothers out there, but if they aren’t living up to a certain stereo type, we get pushed to the side.

3. It does not show the foolish idea that being shy and quiet equate to in capability to love.

In short there are a lot of good black men out there, its just that there are too many of our black women who are chancing after the rare and few black men that are exceptional or peceived to be exceptional. And when they get their hearts broken, they continue to ignore the real good ones until the are leftovers and then the are throwing themselves down for whom ever will be truly kind to pick her up.

Ladies if you want a good man PERIOD, you have to first be the good woman. If you are expecting something, you’d better be ready to give something.

Weeeellll, I would say that white liberals generally had good intentions, you know, like “I am from the government and I am here to help” kind of stuff. But we all know that old saying: the road to hell is paved with good intentions. What white liberals typically lack is wisdom.

So in that sense, certain policies that have had a detrimental effect on the average black community in America are the fault of white people. But ultimately every black person in America is responsible for his or her choices, especially as those choices effect their children.

Although I would argue that the minimum wage laws from the early twentieth century were enacted, in part, to “keep the black man down.” Thank white unions for that.

Wow this is really sad! 3 good black men for every 100 black women. I have to agree with the article. People are commenting that women are gold diggers. Wha tha?? 30k (depending on where you live) is not a lot of money, especially now a days. It’s hard to take care of a family on 30k a year. I just know (based on experience), the black that has kids, no job, been in jail and no real education makes it a lot harder to maintain a relationship. Especially if the women is educated, bread winner with no kids. Why is it wrong for a women that is educated , makes money with no kids, want to be with a man with similar qualities a bad thing? I think what the article should be saying is….The women that are looking for those qualities, the percent of finding that is slim, but no necessary characterizing him as a Good Black Man just because of those qualities. A Bad Black Man can have money, an education, no kids, straight, love black women and never been to jail.

U know everybody is only focused on negatives when it comes to blackmen instead of lookin for the positives! In every work, bar, club setting a female knows of one good brotha but the problem is that some females are too selfish to pursue the man because he may not be what she pictures her future mate to be. Sure everyone have preferences but sometimes if a woman wants to find a dude who won’t dump her or leave her with unwanted children she has to come out that comfort zone. And as far as this list is concerned, only a fool ass woman would take advice from this list.

This bulls**t smh.. I mean I c da #s.. I kno they dont lie.. but I mean.. this makin blackmen look wild as hell.. wat about the #s of Blackwomen being obese.. wat about the ones that never leavin housing.. smh wat about the ones with multiple baby daddies.. wat about the ones that never had a job in their life smh.. I wanna see those #s.. cuz I’m bettin their just as bad.. smh I’m tired of blackwomen playin victim.. when most just as fucd up as wat they r judging to b fucd up.. smh sh*t corney as fuc

Another interpretation is that women would use these criteria, or guidelines, to pick a mate who is likely to create a stable family. That means provided with the long-term means for health and education of the children. It means creation of household wealth and asset building to ensure self-reliance and a fair chance to pursue additional opportunities. It means also creating a domestic environment without violence or emotional abuse, where rationalism and compassion are the prevalent mode of interaction between spouses and between parents and children. It means making a life in a high-performing, education-oriented community with little or no dependence on government remittance.

All women interested in having a family would want this, presumably. And every such woman takes a chance on a man, hoping she has picked well.

But to suggest that wanting this is, what? Venal? “Gold-digging”? That seems myopic to me.

It is common sense, Angilix. 70% of black children are born to unwed mothers. And guess what? Black women suffer most as they are often mired in poverty…

Who really is anti-woman here? Folks like me who recommend that black women seek marriage before propagating or the folks who tell black women that they don’t need a man–they are superwomen and can raise children and get out of poverty all on their own without no man’s help.

Guess what? If a single mother is relying on government assistance, she is in reality depending on some man somewhere…

Black women are the least likely to be in interracial relationships, according to the numbers anyway. I am not saying I know why. Those are just the facts.

It is more rare. Just saying.

Personal anecdotes don’t qualify as evidence. Generally black men are twice as likely to be in interracial relationships than black women…at least according to the stats.

My take is that.This whole Topic in general is not cut & dry nor absolute.BlackMen have been under the microscope of scruitiny since the early construction of the U.S..I think some of what everyone is saying can be true.However I would’nt costitute it as “The Absolute Truth”.Fact is Women period has always out numbered Men.And will always continue to do so.That’s a given.So what ever has been said about Men.The same can be said about Women.We all act like we’re so much different from 1 another.We all exhibit the same damn mundaned behaviors.All of which is a”Learned behavior”.What ever anybody want to say about BlackMen.Its nothing new.Brothers especially.Only difference is.Alot of Black Men have gotten worser through the times.Baiscly the more Ruff n Rugged times get so will the People.Women included.Black People have been declining historically since we fell out of our last bit of power some time around the 1400s.In all actuality this is a mundaned issue.But an issue none the less.But Blacks as a whole have so many issues that need to be addressed.And I dnt really see the passion I’d like to see my people have.About much of anything these days.All kinds of maddness and destruction is all around us and we get quiet like church mice.Our interpersonal relationships is just 1 problem out of many.We have Historical,Cultural,Identity&Economical issues.So with so many things to tackle.I’m just wondering,Why every 1 is so confused or perplexed.1st of all.It’s way too many of us that do not have knowledge of self.Str8 up and down.Many of us come from different social dynamics.In which case brings about different realities.So There are plenty of Black Women happilly with a Black Man.Married or otherwise.But some Sistas outhere are going to have to face the fact of a possible reality that.They may never be able to find,have & or keep a Man.Its just a fact of life.And you know what! the same goes for Men as well.There’s alot of Brothas in today’s society who are single as well.Never been married,no children etc.Bottom line I feel if everything else in ones life is good.Then your chances of having a mate Man or Woman can only increase.Still no garantees though! But it can be possible.

B*tch u been brainwashed.. u really believe dat garbage.. thats the sad part.. nd u prolly feedn ur kids that crap.. its hard bein a blackman.. we dont have the luxury of foldin up.. or that’ll remain a guys M.O for the rest of their life.. unless they move.. but the funny thing bout the past.. is u can run ..but it always catches up.. women dont gotta worry about catchn felonies.. they dont gotta worry about gettin shook down by the cops everyday on the streets just for walkin by.. white america got all ya’ll fucd up to the point where ya’ll lookn down on us.. the sh*t is.. its not gettn ne easier for us blackmen.. but we do adapt.,. thats just wat we do.

Nice straw man. No one said blacks should worship white people, least of all me.

Jesus isn’t white. He was born to a Semitic woman. His father is God. I am not sure where “white” ever comes into the picture here.

Look at the trends of black people in America. They have consistently trended downward in the numbers of religiosity…and their plight has gotten worse. And guess who has paid the ultimate price? Black children. Have you seen the stats on black illiteracy? Over the decades they have only gotten worse!

This report in theory could have some correct aspects. However to get a good ratio you also have to do a report to finding a good black women as well according to the same attributes and standards. In addition, you have to remember we’re not in a perfect world so there’s no such thing as a perfect mate (80/20 rule). We all have flaws, its about finding someone with flaws you can accept and they can accept yours( for better or worse). Lets remember LOVE is the most important thing, physical, economic, or other things can be worked out.

This is straight bullsh*t!!!

Everybody knows the deck is, has and always will be FULLY stacked against brothers, and to objectify US like this is utterly ridiculous! And some of us still prosper!!!!!

Makes me go and get extra hard, I’ve accepted the fact that I stand alone, grind alone and will die alone….I refuse to be a lapdog to superficial, FAKE, self hating, materialistic, unrealistic, wayward women who accept this type of statistical character assasination that is rooteed in systematic and categorical hate mongering that also reported the same bogus stats about black women and HIV/AIDS rates!

We are in 1 of the worst financial crisis ever and we are fractured and lost NOW!

Stop believing the hype, stop trying and vying for what ain’t real or tangible, LOOK IN THE MIRROR and get back to being REAL and not real stupid!!

WOW, dangerous minds think alike, I posted my comment before I read yours….I applaud you baby!!!

YOU are an idiot, straight up……already know you done crossed over and ate the crakkka pie, pitiful!

It seems like that’s what they’re saying SHAWN2005, and NPO CREATIONS I definitely don’t agree with your statement. I know plenty of black men that has been incarcerated, has not graduated with a high school diploma, and has a couple of kids but is still happy as s**t. Why? Because he has still managed to follow his dreams and goals. See when a person compares money to happiness that’s their individual thinking. That tells you something about yourself. But you have some of us out here, who have dreams and goals. And for us that is our happiness, money could never replace that. And don’t forget us black men struggle with some of the same problems you black women struggle with. I know some black women that has no high school diploma. Ones that have three kids by three different fathers, women who don’t want to strive to possess more in life, cause they looking for a baller to take care of them. So as a black men we face the same similar problems, but I can tell you what I don’t do. I don’t let those same woman I see, make up my mind for the rest of the beautiful black women walking around today. I am still able to look past the three kids, I am still able to look past the no high school diploma, why? Because I know true love could never be found from what I can see, but only by what I can feel. So even though a woman may not have all the preferences I like, I don’t exclude her from the group. Cause she may have sincerity behind all of those stereotypes. And that could indeed lead to Love!

LOL, you have either drank the kool-aid and are caught in the Willie Lynch syndrome or your white, either way, you just completly ignorant of the black condition in America.

Basically this is more propaganda to X out the black man via the black woman. This continuing war is basically trying to tell the black woman to get a white man and for the black man to get a white woman so that we can mix ourselves away if they cannot get rid of us any other way!

We keep talking about black women cannot find a ‘good black man,’ but I cannot find a good black woman! Where are they at? It is hard for me to find a black woman who does not smoke weed or anything else, drinks a lot, has different kids by others, is a reforming ho, ghettofied in speech and manners, has a decent job and KEEPS REMINDING ME(!), can be with you for years and then leaves as soon as she meets a man with more money! Where are th e GOOD black women?

These sites make it appear as if the black man is so low-down (and now they say – down-low) that there are none who are any good. The FIRST clue for you black women is looking at his education level. Not that a man needs to have a degree to get married, but it gives you an idea of where his mind is at. If he is educated, he is less likely to be involved in crime. If he cannot stay away from crime then he must be CRAZY! Black women need to stop watching TV and stop thinking about a jailhouse body and think about why he is in jail!

If there are so many GREAT black women out there waiting to be taken – how come I am not married yet? Hell, I just moved to a town where there are a lot of Brazilians and many look clear black, but sometimes I am not sure if they are down with us or not. There are not too many regular American black women here but many whites who keep looking. Where are these good black women at – who do not want to play poker? You know, “you have to drive a better car than I do in order to take me out!”

I recall a show that ABC had with Sherri from The View about no good black men. That was an insulting show. She acted as if she did not have one and then she announces that she is getting married! Clearly that was indeed a SHOW because she already had hers, and it goes to show that looks are not everything for all people!

I am tired of this attack on the black man. I do admit that black men need to stop looking at dealing drugs as a career choice (along with being a RAPPER – not as much money in it anymore, athelete – even harder than a rapper, or an entertianer) and go to school. The black man’s mind is simple (literally too!), he sees black men on TV who sign multi-million dollar contracts, raps or entertains. In his mind it’s easy money – why work for it? This is why they look towards drugs. I admit, when I did not give it much thought before, but luxury class cars do have women thinking about marriage plans just from seeing a man in a car! I had a buddy who had a BMW and I had a new Honda. My car looks nice on it’s own, but they made mention of his BMW. I got the numbers and but he ended up smashing because he’s a liar, married and they thought that having this used car (they assumed he bought new) he was about something that they could get!

This brings us to what they say a good black man should be – single, no kids, attractive, rich and with a Michael Jay White body! That is a TALL order women! They do not mention education, jail record, drug addiction or being an Uncle Tom! Women should not let the media guide their thoughts. However, it is clear that many black women do not know what a good man is because they are with drug addicts, criminals and anyone who is doing wrong! So black women need a good black man, but they do not seem to know one when they see one!

BS! The more successful black women get, the more arrogant they become! I know some successful negros and all they do is brag about what they have but they are always crying broke when you ask them for sometrhing that costs! They ‘may’ buy you a meal or throw a party with fancy food, but that only helps to benefit their egos.

Black women are taught from a earlier age to basically be the one who wait on black men. I remember every family event or gathering with friends since I was a kid the black women would cook and clean and make the man’s plate. So heaven’s illusion,yes, black women are taught also we are taught we have to take care of everyone around us plus keep a good full time job and look good doing it. And u better know how to cook too.

Not for nothing I never show any videos with brothers in it shaking their assess and being treated like meat so who’s really superficial.

The number is worse than 8.5%. Numbers I found in a news article from last year said that in 2008, 22% of black men who got married had a spouse who was not black.

1 in 5 black men seeking marriage sought a woman not of his race. How else can that be interpreted?

Does that mean most black men want women of a different race? No. It just means that many black men getting married are choosing non-black women.

Call it pontificating. Call it whatever you want. Facts are facts.

My views about black people are based on my personal experiences with black people, which are many, as well as statistics and so forth. And I hate to say this but many of these comments I am reading here only seem to reinforce certain stereotypes.

I am not a Southern Christian white, but I know quite a few. And depending on where one lives, you can meet a lot of Democrats…take West Virginia, for example. Many Christian whites there (who are often described as gun-toting racist rednecks) are pro-union and this translates into a vote for the Democratic Party. Remember the late Senator Byrd. The only thing that got him out of office in West Virginia was Death.

Now, let’s consider Tim Scott, a black man voted as governor of a historically white Southern Christian state. He won the GOP primary, remember? And I am pretty sure some of his Republican opponents were white. So what happened there?

Really, Angilix, you speak out of ignorance.

What percentage of black women would qualify as “good”? I see a lot of them that are ugly and out of shape. A lot of lesbians. A lot of groupies that want a “baller” so they don’t have to work. A lot of baby mamas. I bet the percentages are about the same.

With that said, how does any of this info tell you that a person won’t beat or cheat on you?

I like your willingness to be contrary (heretical?).
I do think, though, that your “liberalism” is a bit of a strawman, used to sweep too many disparate phenomena under one rug.
A rug that should better be called “permissiveness,” no? And permissiveness has many fathers, not just “liberalism,” whatever you mean by that.
Take two of your whipping boys: feminism and the sexual revolution. Both are a few hundred years old, so you’d need to identify which versions of feminism and sexual revolution you’re blaming. And it’s quite a feat of reasoning to make sound causal connections between those histories and the condition (predicament?) of black people today. Some people have argued that black people themselves are responsible for the coarsening of sexual manners in this country. It’s a mean argument and hard to prove, so it doesn’t need to be rebutted.

It is vexatiously difficult to explain social phenomena by history, let alone by one or two isolated developments. Individual behavior seems motivated mostly by irrational impulse rationalized by pedestrian material interest. Beyond that, who knows why anyone does anything?

And as an irrational, self-justifying materialist myself, I would hate to give up my modern liberties, not even for Jesus’ sake. One of those is the modern woman. She is dangerous, complex, intriguing, alluring and ever interesting. My soul needs stimulation as much as it needs salvation, so I’m grateful to first-generation feminism for that.

I’m even more grateful for the fruits of the Great Society, however short-sightedly that program was undertaken. I can’t imagine how bad things would be without even LBJ’s modest mitigation of the worst excesses of a free-market society.

I agree with you about the evil of low expectations, though. I would like to see us as a people raise our expectations for ourselves—but for more rationality and intelligence, not piety and religiousness.

Thank you for being one of the BP on here that understand the truth and not buy into this euro BS that some are trying to expose on this site. All we need to do is work on ourselves and our kids and learn to rebuild that sense of love and community with each other that we used to have.

Its sad todays negroes cant see the light! We still believe, with all the so-called education that you are a better man somehow. That because you have attained a degree you are more righteous than your brother.These are the beliefs that will condemn our people..There are way too many chocolate covered crackers out here! When the REAL Afrikan men and women take off the masks, disguises, degrees, preconceptions, need to be exalted above your brother, disrespect for the poor thugs & so-called hoodrats, materialism,when we stop letting crackers take your attention off the real issues, when you stop accepting that white mans paycheck, house, credit score, vision and definitions of success, then and only then will the Afrikan in america receive respect from his women and from his brother. As long as you all are the white mans puppet, judging the poor thugs and hoodrats, you are not a member of the ‘true Afrikans who see their struggle, who refuse to live up to the white mans rules, and vision of who is a good obedient tax paying quiet well spoken coward ass coon ass niggas, then you all will only be dreaming like the rest of your fake white washed non violent negroe leaders. You cant demand respect from your enemy while at the same time being his obedient b***h ass slave…You have to take the power back..by crumbling all that makes him powerful.Not by participating and trying to excel in a system that sees you ass 3/5′s of a man!! Until you give it up, turn your back on your enslaver not your poor brother then and only then will we truly see victory!!!

But are those really goals to achieve, to make a certain amount, to not be obese! Who goals are these, do you speak for yourself or women around the world. Are all these the check marks I would have to cross to get you to see me for me. So you mean to tell me I could never get a fair chance to show you who I really am because I don’t fit into your superficial measurements. If that’s what love is than count me out. If that’s what I have to do to get a real woman than let me forever remain alone. Cause most of those so called goals are not goals at all. And if you really look at them as goals, than maybe you are the one who needs to change!

COMMON SENSE that you don’t have!

understand something…..people do what people do, all the income, fake ass political correctness, acting/talking white, capitalist grind and daily stress in the world comes from this westernized infrastructured created by and for EUROS, we just playing the game!

The way you wear your weave, the way YOU think and how you express is all eurocentric! Very telling!

2 people can be 2 pees in a pod and p***y can take a man off course; does not make him bad or good, just a MAN! If you strip down and away all the CREATED acquisitions that we humans acc**alate, what do you have????

If at that point a man can’t be just, fair and compassionate, then there you have it!

Your analysis is sophomoric and limiting at best! As a man I love variety and all alpha, meaning I protect, I indulge and I control, with that stated recognize what YOUR reality is, nurture it and stop sharing your opinion and dressing it up as FACT!

This “report” is complete nonsense. It ignored that these groups are not independent.
For example, the probability of earning below the same groups of guys who did not graduate from school are the ones most likely to be unemployed and most likely to make under $30K/year.

Take a simple example: Imagine that I want to marry a man who is roughly my age and is alive. Using the ‘logic’ used here, and some made-up numbers, you can show that is next to impossible.
(1) 50% of the world’s population is female. (That takes 50% of the candidates off the list, leaving only 50%.)
(2) 80% of the people who ever lived on the planet are now dead. (That takes 80% of the people off the remaining list, leaving 0.2 x 0.5 = 10%.)
(3) Only 10% of the population is within 5 years of age 45.
10% of that remaining 10% only leaves 1%.
I.e., only one person in 100 is male, alive and about my age.

Dollarbillphil, I think your last paragraph marks you as intellectually brave. Maybe prophetic.
I doubt we’ll ever get the critical mass of black thinking willing to examine that suggestion you make. The very last black American alive is probably going to die defending the suicidal choices and “culture” that killed the rest of us.

I posted a comment farther up the thread saying I’d like to see the whole project of negritude questioned. I know it’ll never happen. Not with academic opportunists like Michael Dyson and Cornel West smothering the discussion like kudzu blanketing a ditch.

But good for you anyway. This is probably a movement that needs to be organic and spread from below. One heresy at a time is how you change a culture.

This article is full of nonsense.

Let’s go point by point and dissect this piece:

First of all, there are about as many lesbians as there are gay men, so that’s a zero sum game.

On the interracial thing, most Black interracial relationships involve Latinos and it’s as common to see a Latino man with a Black woman as it is to see a Latina woman with a Black man.

On the jail thing, thanks to American institutional racism, a LOT of us, men and women alike, are locked out of the job market. Some of are forced into a life of illegal employment thanks to that. Black men often end up in the kind of illegal activity that will get you arrested (low level drug dealing, robbery, burglary ect). Black women often end up in the kind of illegal activity that’s far less likely to lead to an arrest (shoplifting, welfare fraud, prostitution, transporting drugs across state lines). Assuming that people tend to date their peers (ie that male drug dealers or burglars would tend to date female shoplifters and prostitutes) this works out to a zero sum game.

On the high school diploma thing, there are also lots of Black women who were forced out of school due to institutional racism. Even for the African American women who “went to college”, again thanks to institutional racism, a lot of those “colleges” are for profit trade schools or community colleges. Also, thanks to institutional sexism, a Black woman with a degree from a trade school like De Vry makes less money than a Black man with a GED. Again, zero sum game.

On the jobs and income thing – how many Black WOMEN make $ 30,000 a year? Thanks to our friend White American institutional racism, not many. If you can’t bring that kind of money to the table, where did you get the idea that you’re entitled to demand that from the men you date?

On the “looks good and in shape” thing – about 70% of African American women are overweight. If you’re big and heavy, you can’t expect the men you date to be bodybuilders!

On the children thing, there are lots of Black women who have kids also.

So, if we were to make the same deductions on the women’s side that this biased chart does on the men’s side, we’d see that about the same 3% of Black women would measure up to the same standard.

In other words, sisters, we’re evenly yoked, so quit complaining!

If you have a problem with how our race – men and women alike – is treated by racist White America, go out, pick up a picket sign and start protesting against the system.

Ragging on Black men is not going to change a damned thing!

To add on to this…a African American male socilogist(s) needs to do a reverse study as well. In the Philly area and probably all over the US; there are many African American women; despite “good looks,” educated and childless…HAVE SOME SERIOUS MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES!!! I obviously noticed that these studies and media pieces (i.e Oprah’s piece from last year) have left this out. What successul man would want to deal w/someone who is serious need of counseling and is denial of needing it; despite her being “successful” and attractive??

Wow…this study seems to be worried about women who have have PPS, etc (Pretty People Sydrome).

That was real SimplyComplex_87, almost too real for most black folks too handle. Preach!

So if this GUY exist(and I’m sure SOME do, all o us is NOT bad, like women, too), what will the WOMAN do to attract him, keep HIS interest in her and HOW are they gonna approach him without scaring him away from the BS he might ran into when he dating OTHER women????

Boyyyyy, they sure don’t LIKE us, don’t they??????

ROTFL . Thanks for the laugh!

Good Black Men are everywhere! The term a “good” Black Man is being used in comparison to what…a “good” white man?

This is crap created by white racist ameriKKKa, and quoted by “IGNANT” Black Women! The same Black Man you refuse to accept you in turn accept in some nasty, funky, dog looking white boy!

Yep, see this all the time, a Beautifful Black Queen with some white boy whose pants are hanging off his ass, oily or dirty skin, ghostly white (pale), and walks ahead of her as if she’s his dog…especially around other whites.

Oh yeah, and there are plenty of white father’s with “bi-racial” children, who fail to pay child support. Check it out and ask yourself, “Why isn’t this in the news?”

A Black Man that respects Black Women, works, and seeks to do all that a man should do is a “Good” Black Man! Money, clothes, cars, and white skin does not make a man. This is why many Sisters are lonely and now sleeping with dogs (white boys)! Maybe, this is why some Brothers refer to such Black Women as “ignorant b-tches” (dumb dogs in heat).

Just some words from a Brother (A Good Black Man)!

are you kidding me with this nonsense? success doesn’t guarantee happiness, first of all. this article mentioned nothing about “happy” men…it only focused on income level.

secondly, rich people are actually the most depressed and suicidal people in the country. many rich men abuse their wives too. don’t let outward appearances fool you…

The reason why the so called black people have not attained what we all know should be so..The earth the land seas ocean mountains and valleys ae shifting, screaming to us and our blind ipod listening to asses cant hear a thing. All our brainwashed programmed asses can do is get up every morning and make some cracker more rich, while you get the scraps that fall from the masters table. Then you bring those scraps back to your community, where some were not as kind to the master, so they got thrown into a cage called a ghetto and labeled with a bad name,ony to make the “good negroe” feel more good, what i mean is by saying all of them are bad unless they behave like this and strive for this..etc. You stick out your chest because you make more than your brother or sister but still much less than your oppressor..you feel good about the overpriced car that you flaunt that is worthless after you drive it off the lot. Homes that can be taken at any time by imminent domain, careers that are killing you because of the stress.No time for you children, no time to cook a good meal, not time for love, just the dollar.Who makes the most determines who is good! Well if that is the case the White man is the only one good cuz he owns all of our ass. We are ALL his employees, slaves, indentured servants..some are house n****rs some are field niggas, some dived off the ship, some were too weak, some were too scared, Nat Turner was man enough to try to take back his freedom, while the majority hid behind masters coat, or stood in front ready to take the bullet for him!Which one are you is the question..The love of money is the root to ALL this evil we face. Stop the money, stop the system,stop the materialism,stop the european way of life, and all these good things will fall in place..How can a man love and cherish his woman if she is the white mans w***e from 9-5? How can a woman respect her man if he is afraid of his master and a slave from 12-12.When he obeys his masters laws and is afraid of his masters whip..When the true Kings of this earth overthrow present power..Destroy the evil, Return to the days when we were kings and queens , not just reading about them, take the world back and establish a new way a way of truth and true freedom..Then the earth will rejoice women will love her king, when she sees him in true control,Men will exalt his Queen when she is allowed to be her true self in all her glory..Then and only then will this madness stop!!!

I wish I could find a black woman that isn’t tainted by their own selfish tendencies. They always want but never give. Good men work hard and never get half of the love or sacrifice they produce to their woman. All it becomes is batter for their inflating egos. I have never been incarcerated, I make more than 30k a year have a master’s degree, am physically fit and don’t have any kids out of wedlock. But I can’t find a black woman that is either on the same level as me or does not have some kind of psychological problem. I wish black planet would stop posting this crap to my email. Post more things about black owned businesses or black innovations. What is more ridiculous is that I am wasting time posting to this article.

that’s because wives of rich men are too ashamed to step foot in a women’s shelter! either they think it’s “below” them, or they feel the need to hide the fact that they’re being abused. wealthy people put a lot of value in their reputation and status. the skeletons in their closets are KEPT in the closet.

HA! You would think…. I have NEVER met an extremely good looking woman who was nice

Everyone has their own soul mate and im sure yours is out there waiting to be discovered. There are good black women out there waiting to be discovered. The question is will you take the time to get to know her or will you pass her by. Lets stop judging each other and throwing every black man and woman in the same category. Im starting to see that these article do more to divide us than to unite us and i will not be a party to it.

So while I’m meeting these criteria. What are you doing? Are you single? Are you in a happy relationship? What can you offer to the table? Most men lose their happiness being involved with a woman that does not match or exceed the requirements to retain the relationship. Most relationships become more like a job after the first 3 months when all the smoke and mirrors are exposed. All I’m hearing is about what a man should be. What about the woman?

“I also want a male who is compassionate, creative, family oriented, a good listener, understanding, forgiving, romantic, and manly( good with his hands).”

you’re getting into lists here, and that’s not good. you’re right in that it’s good to have BASIC standards, and it’s even ok to have certain other preferences, but my point was that we shouldn’t make those extra preferences actual requirements.

i used to make lists too, like when i was a teenager, but i learned from that once i gained some experience and reality slapped me in the face. sorry to break it to you, but the odds of a man possessing ALL the qualities on your list above are very slim. learn how to compromise some of those things (the less important/valuable ones) so that your expectations can be a little more realistic.

“We are making the lowest test scores in this nation (yes, hispanics have passed us in most scholastic categories)

We are having unemployment issues.

We are pulling in the lesser incomes ($30k is freaking chump change and all should be making as such. I was making that over ten years ago and I’m only 34)

We are not finishing high school and obtaining our diplomas.

We are having children out of wedlock and plain old not being true fathers to our children.

We are dying younger than other races and have obesity issues within our communities.”

those are all FACTS. this article is NOT FACT…its information is extremely skewed and inaccurate. please learn the difference between real statistics and fake ones…the difference between fact and propaganda. otherwise, you’ll be forever misled…

i hear you. i believe someone else in this forum has informed us that this was written by a white woman. so stay black, please! lol

there is no shortage of black men, but there is a shortage of “good” black women. if they werent
if they werent so busy trying to be-basketball wives and all that other Bs and keep it real we wouldnt even be having this conversation! Ive been a good successful single black man for my entire life, aint my fault that black women refused to see me for what I am and have been! so to be frank to hell with em! if I find the right woman to be my queen at this point dont matter if shes black white or asian!(Long as she aint fat, a goldigger, or drama queen) then she’s in! point blank plain and simple!

that’s wonderful to hear, especially when so many educated blacks tend to limit themselves to mates with an equal or greater level of education than them. bless you for focusing on what’s REALLY important. :)

So how many of those supposed 100 hundred woman are good for those supposed 3 black men?

If there is only 3 good black men, then believe there are ONLY 3 good black women. Sometimes it takes “LOVE” to make a GOOD person in any race.
TheeRealKidd

“It means also creating a domestic environment without violence or emotional abuse, where rationalism and compassion are the prevalent mode of interaction between spouses and between parents and children.”

income level has nothing to do with the above. i’m wondering how some of you people can logically believe that money alone somehow “purifies” the character of a person.

This has got to be one of the dumbest things I’ve ever read in the whole entirety of my life. Word. Besides the mere ridiculousness of your f*cked up criteria is the absurdity of the statistics and the fact that your simple ass came to this conclusion. Before you go making up these stupid ass summaries, what percentage of black males that don’t complete high school are felons?? What percentage of felons make less than 30k a year?? Your stupidity is amazing, and for the sake of some innocent man’s sanity, I hope you stay single for the rest of your f*cking life. Johnny 5 out.

This survey is sad, but I feel it true…

Most black women dont know what a “good” black man is. I looooove black women, but in my experience and things i’ve witnessed first had, it seems that most (not all) but most black women think a good man, is a dude who got money (legit or other wise) and who can lay down the pipe. All that other s**t dnt seem to matter. You can cheat and treat them like s**t but as long as u got those two qualities u good….

The fact that you have to call a sister out of her name is disturbing. I don’t necessarily agree with the article or the data as it has been interpreted but I don’t think that you are showing yourself to be that good man that they are talking about. Good men respect their women and show love and don’t feel the need to call them out of their name.

Wow what happen to me. I am all of the above except I am slightly obese.I wonder what I did wrong. I even treated women with respect and they went for the thugs. Maybe looks does mae a difference

Oh, I understand the black condition alright: fatherlessness, unemployment, criminality, poverty, semi-illiteracy, illiteracy, poor health, abortion.

If you pulled your head out of the sand you’d see what is all around you in this country. Or let me guess, the statistics are all a fabrication by the evil white Zionists and rackets who just want to keep the black man down, right?

You know what I think? I think I would garner less respect here if I pretended to be a white liberal feminist, pontificating about the evils of patriarchy, Christian hegemony, and whites oppression of minorities, than being myself: a white traditionalist housewife and mother of two. Because deep down I think most intelligent black people know who really is to blame for the problems in the black communities of this country. Wisdom is colorless.

I dont have to read that to know that the definition of what is a good black man is, to a black woman, varies to a greater degree than the available lottery numbers left in the powerball.AND ANOTHER THING ( i did peruse that article for a second) if 70% of all interracial relationships involve black men dating white women then why does hollywood have this ass backwards.

This article also assumes that 100% of the 100 women remain perfect at all times, the proportions are all out of whack who ever did this article doesnt know statistics much less math for that matter. With all of that said i made into the top 7, but it’s still a bulls**t article.

I can somewhat agree with this. Though I would have liked to see some stats about black women. This only shows in respect to men, i’d like to see the same thing applied to women. It shows the number of available women but not the number of …qualified black women. It may be more than 3% but I know it wont reflect 100 either. With that being said black men we do need to step up. I dont know if I would say that just because you have a child that you are unqualified, if a man has all of these qualifiers minus one I would think that he shouldnt be disqualified from being a good man! This also doesnt take in account a person’s character.

I see you apparently dont know any successful people

How can you trust a study that uses wikipedia as a source???

No offence but you just said hollywood! The same hollywood that depicts all black men as thugs and black women as s**ts unless its a tyler perry movie.

I am not by nature “contrary,” but when it comes to dealing with matters of race and society in general, I tend to go against the status quo, not because I want to be heretical but rather because I believe the status quo is wrong.

Permissiveness…interesting way to put it. Liberalism is an ideology of permissiveness towards immorality, I would say. So no, liberalism would not be a straw man. Modern liberalism (as opposed to more historical liberalism that would be more in line with today’s libertarianism) is also known as Progressivism. One of the main tenets is that the worst evil in the world is intolerance, especially intolerance to things historically considered to be immoral or unnatural.

Personally, I do not think a person’s “intolerance” towards me based on my behavior or appearance is the worst thing in the world. Violence towards me, for any reason, would be worse than discrimination against hiring me because I am a woman, for example. So, I would rather live somewhere safe where I may not be hired because I am a woman rather than live in a place where I am not safe but would easily be hired. Make sense?

Anyway, materialism contributed to the mess we are in, but I think you are painting a false dichotomy for the readers here by implying that becoming a Christian means giving up civil liberties or advocating for the revocation of civil liberties.

Modern woman is predictable. And sadly, the most unhappy of women are those 40-something childless, single career women who sacrificed domesticity for a climb up the career ladder. Why do you think the infertility business is booming?

Your argument that things would have been so much worse without the Great Society is like saying the latest recession would have been so much worse without the Stimulus. No matter what evidence anyone can bring to the contrary, it can’t prove that your premise is wrong. But, see, I don’t think that way. I don’t look at a program with widespread bad unintended consequences and try to argue that “but things would have been so much worse without it.” my response to you is PROVE IT.

You know what are just as bad as low expectations? Unattainable ones.

i can agree w u on that point. i raise my daughter and i make it a point to tell her how to treat young men going forward. too many sisters are very very hard on good men, period. just b/c we dont fit the cookie cutter mold presented in this article doesnt mean we arent good men. divide and destroy is the intent of this article, just like the child support system is set up to break up families. black women sadly will go around w a chip on their shoulders when it comes to decent brothers, but will bend over for the dude who treats them like garbage. i see it happen all the time. and they wonder why we look for women of other races…

I like your comment man, I agree with and also disagree with the article. I believe that if a Black man was raised around positive strong Black women and given a solid foundation to work with at childhood he would definitely respect women and see them as his equal. The article is off, a Black man a little overweight or that has a child with another woman or one that have been in jail can still treat a woman exceptionally.

The majority of the attributes described in the article is of little or no relevance. What matters the most is if he respects himself, if he has a good outlook on life, if he is responsible for his actions (Maturity), if he’s trustworthy or a man that people can count on, If he uses common sense (Make smart choices), if he has a descent sense of humor, if he has a job ( Article was right on this one), if he’s supportive, if he has an interest in you( Article was right on this one) if he’s a good listener, and the cream of the crop personality trait is………..CONFIDENCE.

Confidence is the number one trait for a Black man to have in my humble opinion, but ladies if you get a man with these traits you have a winner, you better marry him lol. Don’t worry about looks, weight, and jail to much, not prison (Rape, Murder, Molester), but jail. Women are usually to picky, usually they overlook the good men for someone with materialistic attributes; that’s why so many are in bad relationships and so many getting divorced. GET TO KNOW THE MAN FIRST before taking the relationship further. A good Black man is what I described in these paragraphs; stop overlooking and rejecting them ladies.

I dont give a F**k what the this study Mean it, but the Fact is Ur Going To face many Obstacles Oneway to another when Ur looking real black women, just Luv the women who treat u rite n forget bout who dont, I hope U will be Aple to Stand,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Wow you got personal real fast.

You’re great just the way you are. The article shouldnt have focused on looks as a criteria of what makes a good man. Have a great day!

Too many women just like the men are chasing a style not the substance of a person. Women have to be honest with themselves, if you don’t want a man with kids you can’t have kids either. If you want a man in shape youhave to work out too. A friend of mine who is a personnal trainer told me the diferent between most white and black women is that white women workout, black women eat out. Stop chasing an extra source of income to support a lifestlye that you cant afford on your own. I’m tired of dating women who say they make all this money but are in debt up to their neck, for example if you make $50,ooo but are in debt $80,ooo you are a broke female. I was make a little more than $30,000 but my debt is less than $10,000 who is in the better position financially. And one last thing STOP BEING SO ANGRY AND UNAPROACHABLE!!!!!!

That right there is it!!! You said it!

Apparently your definition of a sucessful black man and mine differ. Im my opinion your first sentence is a definition of an unsucessul person. I’m sure I didn’t define sucess as simply having money.

That’s tragic.

Yes we’d all like to think rich people are unhappy. Makes us feel better about not being rich.
Yes the prisons are full of unhappty wife beating rich men

That grapgh is poorly written. Clearly by someone who would not hold that job on a white publication with all of the errors. I actualy believe that I need to stay away from these sites because most people’s English is so bad that it may start rubbing off on me!

First of all I am a 240 lb, 6 ft, all muscle black male, so who you calling a bytch, bytch?

well said.

Stop being so judgmental and stereotyping us. Do you know “most” black women? If not, then how can you make judgements like this. I work out two to three times a week . I also see plenty of fat, unattractive, sloppy white women around. I am NOT angry nor am I loud, in fact I’ve been told that I’m “too quiet,” whatever that means. I guess as black women we just can’t win either way.

One last comment i will make on this article…..Just look at the title of it. It tells the whole story. This is an attempt to demean and demote the black man. As much as I know a lot of our brothers have a lot of work to do to improve themselves, an article like this does not highlight the beautiful qualities of the black man. It is an attempt to get us ladies fighting with our men or looking down on them..i nearly fell into that trap but thank God i saw the true picture

I believe the term “good” was used too loosely…I think the ultimate message that they are trying to convey is that the commonalities are lopsided between black men and women. This criteria shouldn’t be a complete determination on whether two people are good for each other or not…the physical outwardness of a persons character is what causes our friends to play match maker or what attracts you to a person in general. This seems to be a checklist of sorts, where you can modify it accordingly. You cannot rule out the list completely but you shouldn’t quote it as gospel either. I’m living proof of this message so I know there is some truth to this article.

WTH!!?? Hold on there I’m not into guys. You ned to find another forum, dude?!

Yes I agree will SimplyComplex_97 the superficial standards are mind blowing and you wonder why you cant find a good man. Let me say, a female should not be looking for a man anyway, ” a man that findeth a wife…..” I believe that this is the begining of the problem, and the other part is there are no more Ladies and gentalmen, only woman and men and many of the things we look for is not normaly in either.
knowing your worth make for a greater chance that no one will treat you like crap, becuase you carry yourself like a queen, not just saying the words, a man will only go as far as a female allows him. and sucess does not make a person respectfull.
most woman dont know what they need, they may know what they want but thats not enough because your social surrounding deside or help deside wht you think you want. example most woman have this perfect picture of a perfect guy but are not close to perfect themselves, the botton line is dont ask for more then you are willing to give or have to give. To all the single ladies, I say work to be your best and settle for nothing less

I appreciate it and I am starting to work to start a movement. Unfortunately as a race, we were longing so much for a cultural identity to call our own, we allowed oursleves to be bambozzled into believing that Hip Hop in its current iteration would be that thing. Unfortunately, seeking a cultural identity through music and cartoonish characterizations has bad written all over it. Now we are stuck with this nonsense because our leaders, political, community, religious and academic do not want to and excuse the quote “call a spade a spade.” So instead of having a discussion lead by smart people the intellectual background and experience to really examine an issue, we get statements made by minstrels like Lil Wayne and then we have people out there defending his “free speach right” instead asking for his bonafides to speak on this issue.

Unfortunately, in the next decade because of the extreme economic realignment this country is about to go through, many black people are going to get left out of the equation. Thus those blacks who have built their “brick houses” are going to have to decide if they are going to let these people in or lock the door. Tough decisions are going to have to be made by many of us, including myself because too many of us have failed to plan and thus have planned to fail.

Its very interesting that these articles never examine the black female side of the conversation. According to the US Dept of Health and Human Services, 57% of black female are categorized as obese. Decreasing the number of “eligible” black women to 43. According to the US census, 59% of black women are single mothers. See what I did there? I just conducted a “study”. I could continue but, its pointless.

My people, ask yourself, is any of this helpful or relevant? By this standard, Barak Obama would not have been “eligible” at the time he met Michelle. He was broke. Will smith would not have been “eligible” for Jada because he had a son already. US congressman Kweisi Mfume, an ex felon, would also have been “ineligible.

You can tell yourself whatever you like. But, none of these things have anything to do with what makes a relationship, or marriage, last. Our history as a people proves otherwise.

Our version of family and love have been attacked and eroded from the outside. Its time to re-evaluate and heal within.

Be blessed.

It’s no secret that negro men are mostly interested in two things ,dating a trophy blond woman and driving a Cadillac so they can brag about it in the hood. And by the way, why is Mi Gente Latino web site shows this crap and many other American negro news and little Hispanic news, as if all Latinos were negro Americanos. And that’s mis dos centavos from Bani,DR.

dmiller189, you make some great points if your statistics are correct. I would like to see them before I buy in to all you are saying. However one comment I would like to make is that your premise does not take into account two factors, the impact our culture has had on preparing black men to be strong mates and the number of black men raised in female lead one parent households. Now sisters before you ripe my head off, I am not saying that its necessarily your fault, although I do questions many weman who have babies out of wedlock’s choices and the unintended consequences of those actions. But, if young brothers do not grow up in a household or environment where a “good man” is present, how can they learn to be that good man. Then comes the culture, what in present day Hip Hop lead culture teaches a young brother anything about being a good man. Hell nothing in the Hip Hop culture even encourages a young brother to work a “regular job.” So many of these young lads have three to four strikes against them lastly, sisters as an overall group don’t demand excellence in their men. if right now sisters said no young black man below 20 could get any loving unless they are in college and graduate, the brothers would be tearing the doors off the hinges trying to get into college. I know that’s simplistic, but, if you keep feeding a a bear, that joker is not going to go back in the woods and take care of business. Sisters unite, form a Union, set standards, enforce the rules, and do not allow any strike breakers. Hold the line and see how fast the brothers start getting their act together.

im keep all real.yall say theres no black man left for yall sistas lol..im right here..but the thing is do i really wont a sista that once a nigga go to the feds u run off and act like we never met do i wont a sista u once my moneys gone the love is gone also do i wont a sista or do i wont this white women whos going to do ya time with you whos going to understand the struggles who’ve been threw who can understand that a nigga loss 9 homies out here and another 4 doing 20 years or more..i did 3 yrs in the feds i just came home i attent college and i play ball for the college b-ball team i dont use that im black s**t as an exscuse i handles mine but at the same time being black is hard and we need our sistas to be strong when were weak..stop shaking a nigga when s**t get real cause that white girl waiting for u to slip up and grab ya nubian king.. what dont brake a nigga make a nigga ride wit me.. trust in me be there when i need u vise versa..but sistas dont have patience..once it get ugly yall run.. maybe sistas need to step there game up..because there is alot of black man out here..we tired…

i g fit that creteria so why do blk urban women give me sucha hard time

INNOCENT MEN ARE LOCKED UP, CONTRACEPTIVES BREAK, AND JOBS ARE LOST EVERYDAY, THESE THINGS DON’T MAKE A MAN’S CHARACTER, U NEED A REALITY CHECK

then that should count out a slew of black women as well.

we black men should be saying the same things.

If you black women dont fit these then criterias dont apply:

1) childless. Yes I said it. If you do have a child it must be from a prior marriage. No more than one daddy. I dont want a parade at fathers day. No secret kids either.
2) know current events . at the minimum know more than who is the current president. what happen with 50 cent , beyonce , lebron and the like doesnt count. What does count ? If you have to ask then stop right here. You dont qualify. we need more than your booty to sustain a relationship. get to stepping.

3) successful. (what is succesful ? 35000 or more ). that means she has a job
4) good looking and a nice figure
5) no criminal records
6) good credit. yeah thats right pay your own bills ,. Im not captain save a hoe
7) have an associates or completed trade school at the minimum and can string a proper sentence together
8) a savings and a checking account with more than $1,000 balance in each one at any given day.
9) dont use title loans, pawn shops and the like as a financial institution
10) No pretend relatives.
11) no gold teeth
12) no unnatural colors in your hair
13) no visible tattoos
15) no drama queens. strong and independent doesnt mean you argue just for the sake of arguing.
16) read books. ZANE doesnt count. when I say books I mean literature. damn it. such as : suntzu the art of war, 7 habits of highly effective people and the like.

If you dont meet these standards then get your act together. We black men arent taking your crap anymore.

Just because men/women who are good-looking, six-pack shape, rich or makes plenty money doesn’t mean they’re a good person to be in a relationship with. You could determine a good men and women by how they were raised. Generally, people who were instilled with good old-fashioned values, morals and principles growing up usually have a long term relationship. Just take a look at the generation of 75 years and older. I see more happy couples in that generation than any other generation.

then that should count out a slew of black women as well.

we black men should be saying the same things.

If you black women dont fit these then criterias dont apply:

1) childless. Yes I said it. If you do have a child it must be from a prior marriage. No more than one daddy. I dont want a parade at fathers day. No secret kids either.
2) know current events . at the minimum know more than who is the current president. what happen with 50 cent , beyonce , lebron and the like doesnt count. What does count ? If you have to ask then stop right here. You dont qualify. we need more than your booty to sustain a relationship. get to stepping.

3) successful. (what is succesful ? 35000 or more ). that means she has a job
4) good looking and a nice figure
5) no criminal records
6) good credit. yeah thats right pay your own bills ,. Im not captain save a hoe
7) have an associates or completed trade school at the minimum and can string a proper sentence together
8) a savings and a checking account with more than $1,000 balance in each one at any given day.
9) dont use title loans, pawn shops and the like as a financial institution
10) No pretend relatives.
11) no gold teeth
12) no unnatural colors in your hair
13) no visible tattoos
15) no drama queens. strong and independent doesnt mean you argue just for the sake of arguing.
16) read books. ZANE doesnt count. Yeah, I said it. ZANE is trash. Anyone who bought a Zane book is an one tooth ghetto hoodrat. Yeah, I said it. when I say books I mean literature. damn it. such as : suntzu the art of war, 7 habits of highly effective people and the like.

If you dont meet these standards then get your act together. We black men arent taking your crap anymore.

Who are the terrorist again?

black women step up your game.

then that should count out a slew of black women as well.

we black men should be saying the same things.

If you black women dont fit these then criterias dont apply:

1) childless. Yes I said it. If you do have a child it must be from a prior marriage. No more than one daddy. I dont want a parade at fathers day. No secret kids either.

2) know current events . at the minimum know more than who is the current president. what happen with 50 cent , beyonce , lebron and the like doesnt count. What does count ? If you have to ask then stop right here. You dont qualify. we need more than your booty to sustain a relationship. get to stepping.

3) successful. (what is succesful ? 35000 or more ). that means she has a job
4) good looking and a nice figure
5) no criminal records
6) good credit. yeah thats right pay your own bills
7) have an associates or completed trade school at the minimum and can string a proper sentence together
8) a savings and a checking account with more than $1,000 balance in each one at any given day.
9) dont use title loans, pawn shops and the like as a financial institution
10) No pretend relatives.
11) no gold teeth
12) no unnatural colors in your hair
13) no visible tattoos
15) no drama queens. strong and independent doesnt mean you argue just for the sake of arguing.
16) read books. ZANE doesnt count. Yeah, I said it. ZANE is trash. Anyone who bought a Zane book is an one tooth ghetto hoodrat. Yeah, I said it. when I say books I mean literature. damn it. such as : suntzu the art of war, 7 habits of highly effective people and the like.

If you dont meet these standards then get your act together. We black men arent taking it

Ooooo this article struck a nerve after Anglix played somewhat of a “Devil’s Advocate” role supporting the arguments as one would assume a woman must support such (seeing he’s been mistaken for a woman). I must say everyone’s opinion on the matter is a good read. Personally, I fail the basic criterea when it comes to kids as I have a little best friend known as my daughter. All I can assume is that this checklist is not for everyone, but it’s still slightly dejecting that it is for quite a few women. Some I feel are a must such as being hetrosexual and being a promenient male of society (notice I did not say a job, as getting an education or doing something to advance yourself qualifies in my eyes). But without child? Good looking? If the same basic criterea was applied to women.. How many “good” black women would there be for every 100 black men. I mean hetrosexual, good-looking, no children, nice backside and breasts but a slim waist and flat stomach, successful with atleast a 30k a yr job, good credit, her own (house, car, money), can cook & clean, sexually knowledegeable with low partner numbers, & docile. Yes that could be “basic” in a man’s eyes because he never said a specific skin tone or bust size, or the extent of her cooking, cleaning, or sex skills. All in all, fun article.

It is not common sense because if you take into the fact that there are articles like this posted on this site and sites like it on a ridiculously regular occurrence, it tends to make Black Men who do have these traits to become more self centered and ego-centric. Even in the case they aren’t that MADE that way by the consistent badgering of “not enough “good” Black Men”, the ones who are good are likely going to peruse their options and aren’t too quick to jump into anything.

And as far as being kinder to those around you… this is not based on success and more than likely based on the individual. If you were to take into account the sheer quantity of bad treatment that is riddled within wall street and those with money and benefits then you’d understand the illogical nonsense you speak.

“…. its just that there are too many of our black women who are chancing after the rare and few black men that are exceptional or peceived to be exceptional…”

I’ve never heard of a black woman who wants a man that makes $30K per year. It’s more like $75K per year to be able to even talk to some of them. You’re right, some play themselves.

Newsone just loves starting these battle of the sexes wars, and people fall for it every single time….

Very well put.

I’m going to need this website to stop pushing these BS articles off as fact.

Alright first off… who said that these qualities are what makes a man good?

Second… There was no limiting differential on the amount of women that are eligible with the same circ**stances. I mean… if you want to boil down the facts, how many women that are just high school grads and don’t have any children making over 30K a year with ONE job?

Before you start adding more to the divide and conquer BS, be sure to check your “facts” and that’s in quotations because obviously you don’t know the true definition of facts. This is a VERY unfair comparison and biased for no other reason than to justify the continuing push for Black Women to
“choose” other men and abandon those who continue to support them.

Oh black women…here is a secret that black men dont tell you..White women arent taking your good black men…..

when we date white women its not because of curiosity, fetish or to spite you. its because she (that particular woman. not her race) it is because she was the right one at the right time. maybe just maybe he dated/married that white woman because she is/was good to him.

yeah, it has nothing to do with you. get over yourself. stop reading those damn books and listening to those CNN specials saying there are no good black men out there. you are too busy w**ring out, playing games, arguing over dumb stuff and acting ghetto.

you want a good man..take a lesson from Michelle obama. you will learn something. support your black men and stop stabbing him in the back.

stop alienating him from his kids because you SINGLE black women have failed in raising the kids.
yeah I said it. YOU FAILED. YOU. YES YOU black women are the backstabbers of the black community. you keep the fathers away from the kids and the kids become buck wild. who is at fault ? you . het a grip. better yet go buy a bottle of “MICHELLE OBAMA to become no DRAMMA MOMMA” and drink once a week

OH YEAH.

The question is, do these 100 women actually meet the necessary criteria to have these standards met by the 3 remaining?!!

why is there a constant focus on if their is “good” black men???? its getting annoying with these articles….why are there no aricles on if there is “good” black women???? and just to let people know america is a very racist place..black men are the last hired and first fired…and they love giving us the low paying jobs….unless your a doctor or lawyer or businness man which most people are not ….toy really dont get a fair shake…but i do see a lot of successful other black dude to tell you the truth..i see black lawyers and doctors and bussiness men but if a black women sees them in the street they dont f^ck with them at all!

it all about mixing the dark skin….and making it look white…..every thing have been about this the drugs the receesion every thing…..white skin is melanoma cancer……

Troy Davis has 4 minutes to live, we have a fake Black President who won’t even say “Black injustice” when White folk are looking at him and we’re here talking about “good Black men” for “Black women?”

THIS is supposed to be the “news” source for Black America?

GTFOH

smh @ this verrrrry one sided article. where does all this entitlement come from? why put these “qualifying” men up against “available” women?

“We exist, therefore we deserve to be in a ‘good’ relationship with ‘good’ men!”

Michelle Obama drinks more than once a week…try once an hour. Alcoholic?
Want to see the reason why successful Black men marry White women?
Look at Michelle Obama. She looks like a power forward for the Knicks, drinks like a sailor and talks ish about White women because she allows herself to be intimidated by them.

Have you heard this one before? I have.

I found this incredibly fascinating. Only 3 good decent Black men for every 100 women. Really? Perhaps all those stats and figures are true, but let me give you another prospective from a university educated, self-employed Black ‘geek’.

No one likes to ask about the horrendous choices so many Black women make in relationships. Why those so-called ’3 good men’ will most likely be ignored by a mass number of Black women who really desire chiseled looks, criminality, danger and wealth. This past census proved that there are more single Black mothers in American society than any other ethnic group – so why gripe about 1/3 of Black men having kids? The better question is, “do those men take care of their kids?”

Why are these smart, passionate ‘independent’ women continuing to choose the lowest denominator of Black men, only to complain that there are no other options? And if a white or Asian women sees the good they don’t, then Black men are considered sell-outs for dating those who WANT to date them. Why should a Black man stay single if Black women don’t see him?

From as early as high school, the most intelligent goal oriented brothers are ignored and ridiculed by Black girls. I still see it happening today. My nephew is a gifted 12 year old who is made fun of by Black girls exclusively. White, Hispanic and Asian girls love him though. Should he ignore those girls who see how smart and gifted he is?

In my day, in a majority Black high school, only 15 of us were on the entire honor role, yet Black girls gave us little consideration. Idiotic terms such as “too nice” were used to justify why thugs were a better option over boys destined to start businesses, become doctors and do good in this world. The truly sad part is this ‘bad choices’ behavior continues past high school.

There should be an equal study looking at how many Black women actually pursue ‘good’ Black men BEYOND simply money and looks. Many of the men who use and abuse women are the good-looking, built jailbirds women find so damn irresistible. If you are the type of woman who would turn down a brother because he has kids he loves and cherishes, has a bit of a belly and works hard but isn’t rolling in dough – you are a moron! Open your eyes – good, non-felon, educated Black men are EVERYWHERE!

LOL@Angilix, I wasn’t speaking about you in my text, I was simply commenting on your statement and speaking in general about the topic.

hEY MAKE LOVE not WAR,do not get side tracked with facts, figures & stats, use commen sense be logical AND go with your gut & if somebody tells u everthing u wanna hear ,DO NOT FALL FOR THAT SAME CRAP WE ALL HEAR . INvestigate if it ain’t straight hit the gate goes for both sides of the fence; fellas & females, o yeah im numbuh 4!!!!

Another stupid article that was probably written by a black women or a racist. While the above may hold some truth, there is a high amount of good black men out there and these women play hard to get and end up losing the man.

WHO CARES! Date another fu**ing race! He doesnt have to be black ugh! Black women are sooo behind, why keep looking for a black man and there are so many other men out here that want black women and yall just running back to a black dude who aint no good..wtf. Believe me, there are other races out there that really REALLY want a black women you guys just dont know.

I KIND OF LIKE THIS. IT SHOWS WHAT KIND OF DREAMWORLD BLACK WOMEN ARE LIVING IN LOL. GOOD LUCK! I FALL IN THE 3% RANGE MYSELF SO…I HONESTLY DON’T SEE ALL BLACK WOMEN RUNNING FOR ME LOL.

“In this world, there are lies, damn lies, and statistics.”

In other words, statistics are damn near harmful when used as a basis to prove one’s argument because the person in charge of collecting the data on any given sample can manipulate the outcome of the study to show anything that he or she chooses.

A perfect example of this is the article written above. With that said, there’s no point for me to even attempt to dissect the percentages you have tossed out so far; however, I do wonder if you actually took the time to examine the sample sizes and location of the studies in depth to examine any potential flaws of the data. I also find it very interesting how you claim that 8% is a large number and that it is significant justification to prove that black men prefer women of other races, so let’s flip it. Ninety-two percent of black men prefer to date black women. Hm…

Sad that many black folks on here cosigned to your claims.

The world’s a stage and we are the audience. Based on what I know of the true nature of the government and how it really functions since its inception, the argument that liberalism and feminism are the main factors contributing to the demise of black people is garbage and it clearly shows that you have no knowledge whatsoever of how African communities functioned before they were brought over to this country.

Hell, both parties are really one in the same and have both done harmful things to blacks. Back then, African women never had to fight for their rights because they ALREADY HAD IT. The idea of patriarchal societies was for the most part introduced to the Africans by white people. If you don’t believe me, look up Cheikh Anta Diop. For one, there is no such thing as white liberals with “good intentions.” The white race has been dead set on systematically destroying the black race since the Europeans first step foot in Africa.

The very movement to take over Africa and enslave its residents was that of a unified one on the part of the Europeans, so why should we believe that white liberals, white conservatives, white libertarians, etc. have black people’s best interests at heart, period? Have you ever heard of the story of what your people did to Black Wall Street in Tulsa, OK? Once again, if you don’t believe that the destruction of the black race is indeed systematic, I suggest you check out the book The Destruction of Black Civilization: Great Issues of a Race from 4500 B.C. to 2000 A.D.

I agree with this, As a woman I am so tired of hearing, “I want a good man or good woman”. From what I have experienced, heard and seen so far; is that people want something good for the time being, then they disrespect them and like you said they ignore the decent ones until there are leftovers.

The greatest enemy of black women in the last century is not liberalism nor is it feminism. It’s the white man and white female sidekick.

These stats could have at least compared to the stats of black women to be fair. If we were to realistically look at the weight, income, and the amount of children that black women have to determine eligibility it wouldn’t be like 3 men to 100 black women. It would be a lesser number for black women eligible too. You cant say that black men are ineligible for these things, and not look at the same for black women and make it look like they are all eligible. Lets be honest, my people.

I am not sure if these stats are true, but I am more concerned with some of the comments reacting to these stats from both black men and black women. The comments like “you dont have to have money to be considered a good man” type argument. ARRRGH! I hate the broke man anthem and I hate when women encourage this in the name of not trying to sound like a gold digger. Like a woman have to CHOOSE between a man that is atleast financially stable and someone who is loving. Like a woman cant have a man that is financially stable AND a good husband instead of one or the other. WTH?!?

No, making AT LEAST (damn atleast?!?) 30k per year and avoiding a criminal record doesn’t automatically make you a GOOD man, but MY GOD its the least to be CONSIDERED for a serious relationship in hopes that it will lead to MARRIAGE! Are some of you people serious? I mean if we are going to be popping out kids like candy machines, the least we can do is make sure that we (ladies) choose men who can provide. The least you can do as men is be sure you have the RESOURCES to be able to take care of your future wife and child. If you don’t believe the stats, then that is one thing. I am just disappointed in alot of these comments who make statements like “having money doesn’t make you good man”. DUH! Money doesn’t make you a good man, but it sure means you are in the position to take care of yourself, your household, your wife (if you choose to get married), and any kids you do have or wish to have! There is nothing chivalrous or romantic or loving about a man telling me how much he loves me but is not in the position to take care of our household! Hellooooo people. Yes it is IMPORTANT to seek a man who is respectful. Yes it is IMPORTANT to seek a man who is loving. Yes it is IMPORTANT to seek a man who has character. But why is it we as black people on the subject of serious relationships and marriage we exclude finances?!? Like finances doesn’t have any importance in the mate selection process?!? You know. That thing that families need to thrive in today’s capitalistic society? Money is not the end all be all but it has its place of importance. If a woman says she wants to be with a man who is respectful, loving, a good father, AND financially stable. You got men who are quick to call her a gold digger just because one of her requirements is financial stability. What is up with that?!? I can understand if all she care about is a man funding her debt destroying shopping habit nothing more nothing less. I mean you got women not putting a standard on men to have his BASICS AT LEAST before they get with him then COMPLAIN later on out of RESENTMENT on live television that “black men aint ish”. Maybe so sista, but why in the world did you choose him knowing that he “aint ish”.

Come on people.

A couple is going to end a relationship if they are dead set on doing it, whether it is by divorce or separation. The only involvement a court should have in a divorce (and I’m stretching this) is the distribution of wealth when both parties decide to go their separate ways. Then again, you’re probably just basing this on your Christian concepts.

I would say that Christianity as well as Islam did the most harm to black people overall. You do NOT accept the religion of your enslavers. I repeat, you do not accept the RELIGION of your ENSLAVERS. Neither do you beg your enslavers for a national holiday (Martin Luther King, Jr. Day?). I threw Islam into the mix because, well, let me put it like this. Often times, I hear white folks say that the Africans sold each other into slavery. That is partly true. Why? While there were Africans that sold others into slavery, these Africans in particular were MUSLIMS! They were Islamized by the Arabs. If you actually took the time to examine history then you would know that Christianity is nothing more than the recycled product of the Egyptian religion. The only difference is that they removed the image of a woman (Auset) from the Trinity and replaced it with a damn bird.

Now, I am not denying that there problems within the black community; however, these problems were not by any means self-inflicted. You actually stated that the most dangerous place for a black baby is in the womb, but who started the abortion movement? A white Jewish woman. Why are there so many abortion clinics (and liquor stores, among other things) placed in black neighborhoods? White people. Who is responsible for pumping drugs, like crack cocaine into these said neighborhoods? FBI and the CIA. The drugs didn’t just get there by themselves. I could go on all day about this.

I Love what you wrote.

Wow, Simply CoMplex I’m impress! It’s rare t find a young attractive sista with such a strong and truthful perception. You made some very valid points! Peace 2 ya sis!

Interesting. I met men who possessed all those qualities and more but we still lacked the chemistry I was looking for in a relationship at the time and in other instances the time just wasn’t right for me because I was too young. I know from experience there are good men out there with all the qualities I am looking for and more and that’s being realistic.

UUUHHH, hey dumb ass we know this. have money yadda yadda yadda. You black women are the ones saying “if he aint rolling with lots of cash then he is not successful.”

hey dumbass define successful. because to a black womans standards a male teacher would not qualify because he is not good(balling)

Hm so your argument bonyjoop, is with black women who are looking for Mr. Big or someone balling out of control? Well you are arguing with the wrong woman.

Unless you believe that it is absolutely okay for black men to enter into relationships when he is 1)unemployed 2)doesnt make enough to take care of himself 3) living pay check to paycheck then I think we are on the same team. However if you do think it is okay, miss me with whatever else you replied to me on. Nothing wrong with dating/marrying a man who has a teaching career in my opinion. I personally dont hate on men who dont have degrees. Have the basics is all im saying.

Now it is a different thing if a woman is married to a man who was financially stable and for some reason they fall on hard times that is out of their control. Women should stick with that man. However I dont recommend women coming into relationships with men who atleast doesnt have the basics?

What is your opinion on this bonyjoop?

Whoa hot topic. According to these stats I’m a good black men… nice. The first sentence I read wasted no time bashing this article about a “good” black man and what qualifies. I think to start it is implied that a good black man would treat you right. This is regarding meeting one, right? I think these are surface qualities because you don’t meet somebody knowing their personality and true intentions from the start. That’s the point to getting to know a person. So I’d say stop the arguments about personality and let’s assume the personality is a “good” one, and take this article off of a initial meeting of a person.

Second: Health and looking good are two separate things. I think this article is focusing on health as what and who looks good to somebody is completely dependent on somebody’s perception of what’s attractive.

Some commenters caught a lot of feelings and I felt jumped the gun. Wouldn’t it make more sense to take some of the factors I mentioned about into consideration in terms of the writers perspective on the article? Just sayin

Is it a dream world for black women to require that he at least make 30k and not have a criminal record? I am not going to argue weight because many black women are overweight too. I am not going to argue children because many black women have children too. I am not going to argue lack of degrees because I know some people without degrees making alot more out of their long-term career or small business than those with degrees and employed off that degree. However is it too high of a standard for black women to want a man that makes at least 30k or more and not have a criminal record before they even consider pursuing a relationship?

24 % of black men are obese BUT 54% of black women are obese! Additionally 80% of black women are overweight. Check the stats! And since we’re talking about 33% of black men who have kids since they had to have a kid with a female I’m sure the percentage with females is close if not greater. Another thing I hate is how they try to polarize white and black people. Alot of black men date Latinas and Asians also but they don’t mention that. I know alot of Black Women that won’t do the same because of stereotypes they have of Latino and Asian men.

The thing about women not dating men from prison is somewhat understandable but if they know anything about their culture we know that black men are the most target racial/gender group in America for discrimination. My family’s from Chicago and I’ve seen the police do illegal things to people there multiple times so its not nothing to them to throw a Brotha in jail.

Also, I’ve looked at these dating websites and the majority of black women on there are (I’m keeping it 100) are fat, not that attractive, lying about their age and have ridiculous qualifications for their potential man. I’m dating a fit black woman now and prefer black ladies for cultural and physical reasons (you can’t get curves like that) but if I’m in a “drought” I’m gonna look at the other races of women that are qualified.

Thats bull s**t,most successful people with money have s**tty attitudes because they feel with their success and money they don’t have to treat another person right.With them is more like i can pay to be the way i am,and i’ve acually heard people with high paid jobs say s**t like that.

Not all black women look at financial wealth as a requirement for a mate. Some of us look at his heart and his personality. I had dated many types of men in my day and now, I’m dating a guy who is an absolute sweetheart. He’s not rich, but he’s a hard worker…hec, most women would not consider him attractive, but I melt everytime I see him. He brings out the best in me.

Sorry that your perception of black women is so messed up. Maybe it’s your approach or just your exposure to a limited type of woman. I will tell you this though: there are women the world over who are just as focused on a man’s wealth as black women. Believe it. I know.

Ignoring the fact that this is a terrible study in that many of the categories overlap so you can’t just reduce the number by a percentage and also the fact that if you applied the same qualifications to women the ratio would be much better; articles and shock journalism like this is why American is doomed in the future

Now your first line is the gospel truth,there is nothing more ridiculous trying to deal with is a black woman with money.Most of them nose is stuck so far up they’re asses they can’t remember the last time they breath fresh air.Hell a broke ass poor black woman with 6 children by 6 different men still play hard to get and act like they are a prize catch.Plus they have a nerve to think they’re to good for a brother who work everyday.So you can imagine how difficult it is putting up with one who have money.

APOLOGIES–I DIDN’T MEAN TO SELCECT THE “LIKED’ OPTION. I meant to hit the ‘reply’ instead to write, WTF are you talking about????

You probaly ain’t never met a real flesh and blood woman.

Damn brother the way you talk you sound like you think you can sell your s**t at a cake factory.Your head is stuck way deep in up in your ass to,talk about stuck up so called successful black women.Damn i know you’re give a women hell trying to put up with you.First she would have to leave earth go out in space just to bring your head back to earth.Sound like your little white man education just make you a stuck up snob.

Big time reality check.

This study does not depicting the real problem here. There are tons of good black men out there, but once a black woman starts making more money than her good black man and uses his salary to help her get her college degree all of a sudden he isn’t good for her anymore. 66% of black children do not live with their biological father because the black woman packs them all up and moves away. After, of course, she obtains her college education and other things that two salaries can do. Black women need to stop, take a look in the mirror and ask themselves exactly why is it that 8.5% of black men are with white women !!

Man you can’t be serious by all this s**t you’re saying,this must be your comedy hour.

Yeah he like white girls i heard him say that a while back.

Wow!!! Why try guys?!! Look at that “wall” of criteria you guys have to climb fellas LOL!!! And that’s just to get to meet them!!! I wonder what huge wall there is for marrying? Funny, because men don’t have “walls” like those and it’s probably a good thing because if they did, women wouldn’t even get a chance to even “talk” to a man! Also, there are plenty of men who’s been to “jail” and many are successful; look at 50cent, Robert Downey jr! Need I go on? Also, the main reason women can’t find men is because there is “NO” man that can meet the criteria of the “AMERICAN” woman. PERIOD! And that is the bare bones folks and the “proven” fact. Try not to slip on the way up that/those walls fellas and have fun jumping through those hoops. LOL!!!!!

Also, you know!!! They are wrong about the homosexual percentage! LOL!!! I can take you to a dance club and you’d think 80 percent of the females are homosexuals!!! You know who you are grinding, kissing, dancing, holding hands with each other on the dance floor………………in public………on TV……………..in the bushes……………………when you “man” is gone…………..I “truly ” believe that at least 80% of “today’s” woman are gay.

Funny, because about 90% of the time when I see women or women together nowadays, I just think they’re either gay (or have had some type of a gay relationship with another woman) or I see them as “competition” for me to go after and squash; not dating material.

wow….I didn’t realize the characteristics of a “good” Black man was so superficial. What happened to spiritual-minded, have a great sense of humor, is a great father to the children he may have, fiscally responsible, compassionate, the list goes on and on. We, as women, get blinded by the superficial and then wonder why they never get married. This is not a damn Tyler Perry movie. I married the man of my dreams….and he is in fact a good man yet he dont fit some of these categories…..but he invests in me and he truly knows how to love versus this prototype which may not fit you.

im anxious to see the results in vice versa

Oh, by the way, I am “VERY” successful, good looking, hetro, in “EXCELLENT” physical and mental shape.

I’m not a sports or video game addict, I don’t smoke, drink alcohol or do drugs, nor do I hang out late or party and “NO” I have not populated the planet with my children, nor do I have a (“baby mama”!) (child support payments, ali-”money” etc.)

Yeah, we’re out there!!!! LOL!! Too bad, “today’s” woman wants/wanted “INDEPENDENCE”!!!! YOU HAVE IT!! BE HAPPY!! QUIT COMPLAINING!!! I’m NOT!!! Go be “INDEPENDENT”!

Geeeez, one might think that “today’s” women, just have become a “HUGE” turn-off for many men???? Think about it.

Also, why would I need a woman around??? I can cook, do all my own repairs etc. laundry! You know all those things “today”s women find soooo oppressive when they’re in the company of a “man”. I’m also a neat freak and very organized and a multitasking wizard! Oh, I can also sew (you know needle thread, stuff “women” used to be capable of doing) Hmmmm… looks to me that while women had left the home to burn their bras, men learned some good skills while being left alone; and continue. Need a woman around? Naaaahhh!!!!

I think that these numbers are bit skewed when we start subtracting based on percentages in different categories. One person can account for a portion of the percentage in each category. One guy could be an overweight, horrible looking, single parent and felon who is also unemployed, without a high school diploma, makes less than $30K a year, and has been to jail (and is now gay). There are many people who fit this description. So once they are subtracted for one category we can’t use them to subtract in another. I think that would drastically lower the percentages in each category and increase the number of “qualified good black men”. Usually in order for a woman to pay attention to a “qualified good black man” he also has to fit the “bad boy” persona that most of these “good women” seem to be attracted to. Furthermore, if we run the numbers again and still come up with only 3 out of 100 I would challenge the group that conducted this study to come to my area of the country and find 3 out of 100 black women that aren’t single parents. This criteria that we are being measured against must apply to the opposite sex as well. Once we begin to reduce the number of “qualified good black women” based on certain criteria, I’d bet that we could reduce that number to 3 in 100 as well. So, black women, there are an adequate number of “qualified good black men” that are available to you………as long as you are qualified as well.

My opinion? Reports like this are more depressing than the “so called statistical facts.” The accuracy of these reports depends on the person’s honesty if it’s a self report and the pool from which the study was pulled. My advice: Live your life and do what makes you happy and stop reading things of this nature. It amazes me how we as a race are quick to wonder or ask about the black man and their qualifications as a partner as if ALL black women are “ready made mommy and wifey material.” Anyone looking for perfect mates will continue to be sorely disappointed. All I need is someone who “actually” loves and respects ME and I’ll take it from there. *That’s all, goodnight*

You’re entitled to your opinion, but I’ve dated plenty of men in that arena and they are no better than any other man. If anything worse because they carry this “ain’t too many dudes like me” arrogance. It’s nice to have common goals and backgrounds with someone but it should never be a deal breaker even if you and the guy are total opposites in every sense of the word. Bottom line, no one can map out what’s best or who makes the better mate. These so-called desirable traits look good on paper, but can be attached to the ugliest (personality& heart) soul you’ve ever encountered.

You’re absolutely right, w***e

You know whats depressing? Having to travel to and from clients and see mainly black women walking with either fat, or crackhead looking white guys while their boyfriend gives me a dirty look and a snicker and her giving me a look like she is trying to stir up feelings in me (fat black women are with black men here though not the slim or pretty ones). Well I dont know about the states but in toronto this is the way it is. And they would warp everything to make it seem like its the other way. But everyone knows and white people I talk to see it and make comments and even say its gross. I’ve had italian guys show me vidz they made on cellphones (girl didnt know) of them f**king these n****rs. (I just counter with stories of f**king an italian, which they immediately get angry about). Just like one of my clients who recently told me he’s stopping f**king black girls because he wants to get married now. These females every day bring me closer to vomiting. Cant wait to go to Africa.

And this article was written by a white woman if anyone took the time to investigate the website it came from.

why wont all y’all just be lesbians or find white men. everyday or every other day the topic about no goo black men always come up. but what made them like that. yall dont know what anybody go through in life, men and women, black and white…so for some strange deranged publisher or writer to talk about the ratio between what they suspect to be “good” black men and the right black woman is just senseless. most women are cheaters and abuse their own body with out having to have a man do any of the damage. the fact of the matter is, this is a male-driven world, and most black men are being driven to unsuccessful living due to America’s broken system, a broken household from child hood, or senseless articles like this one that was probably published by someone white or a lesbian. you can find a good man cause when you get one, he dont look like Denzel, Idris Elba, Trey Songz…or he dont make as much money so you can spend on make up and hand bags…or cause he simply wont be your do boy. men are not children. men are human just like women. if a woman dont have a “good” man, it just might be that she’s not good enough for herself. find something else to talk about like disease in the black community or education and how to own a black business instead of talking about a “good man”!

I guess I’m not a good man. Only 5’9″, average looks, and blue collar. What other phyiscal traits short coming do I have? since my personality is not consided.

@SimplyComplex_87 that is real talk.. I thought that list was superficial as well because there are alot of black women that have kids, out of shape, no education, etc. so why would we want to try to have black men be at the same level

i wonder how many of the women seeking the 3% are worthy of them. do they fit the same criteria?

lol 3 “qualifying” black men for every 100 “available” black women… well how many of those available black women are qualifying black women? maybe in actuality the ratio is 3/10 if looking at good qualities in women also.

So I guess a “chubby black man” who has no discrimination in the race he dates, has been to jail or prison and has paid his debt to society,own his own business ,highly intelligent without a degree,has gay friends,and is a single father raising adopted children is a loser huh? Who wrote this article a superficial black women???

Seahag, I am happy that you have a man with a good heart and is a hard worker.

Just know that I said NOTHING about getting with a rich man. I am referring to BASICS of financial stability. Most regular people have to work towards wealth.

In other words… you still don’t have an answer to my question. Got it.

Black women have enough issues to deal with b4 requiring black men to be of quality.Besides who are these black men having kids with anyway #truthhurts

Who owns “Best Black Dating Sites” anyway? From the sound of it, White folks with an agenda.

And I hate how the statistics are skewed to be so detailed about Black men, but so vague about Black women. Cause you know a lot of Black women are obese, unemployed, baby mommas themselves. So 100 Black women being “available” doesn’t mean squat.

This report is stupid.

“I have met men who possessed all those qualities and more but we still lacked the chemistry I was looking for in a relationship at the time and in other instances the time just wasn’t right for me because I was too young.”

well then they weren’t such a perfect match for you after all, huh? that’s the thing…you make a list of things that you think will make you happy, but once you find a man with ALL those qualities, turns out you two can’t even click like that…meaning the items on your list really didn’t make you happy. you were so concerned with whether a man is creative or good with his hands that you forgot to include one CRUCIAL item on your list: chemistry. proof that some women focus on entirely the wrong things when selecting a mate.

and about the being too young thing…most men who date women several years their junior aren’t looking for anything serious to begin with. and most young women who date men several years their senior are too naive and/or immature to recognize those older men for what they really are. you may have THOUGHT they were great, but your relative inexperience and naivete at the time, coupled with the manipulative “game” the older men have learned to spit from decades of life/dating experience, could only result in a confused young woman who has mistaken dirty old men for Mr. Perfects.

who the hell put this in place, im not gonna go into to much detail on absurdity of the article, but the actually set up is wrong, you dont keep decreasing from an already decrease percentage when it doesnt factor all the same criteria.

lets break this down so a 1st grader would understand- you got a supreme pizza, 2 lil girls say they dont like pepperoni; so you remove it – you dont go to the next group and ask what they want to remove with the pepperoni already gone??? its not the same pizza you started with

who really set this up to say 3 good men to 100 women and better yet who authorized to let this story be printed . . . . smh

Ms. Angiflix you’re way off the point. First off, what criterior do you use when you say successful? Are speak of dollars?? Are you speaking of position? There are many PEOPLE who are financial sucesses that are horrible human beings (look at a lot of athletes black, white, hispanic), they are finanically successful but would you want to be envolved with most of them? If you’re talking about a persons character I think not. How many men with money have you heard or read about that dumped their wives solely because they grew tired of them and wanted a younger physically tighter model??? I think if you research the situation you’ll see that a person that is financially successful while he/she is single is usually self centered and selfish to the point of fault. Successfully fianancially driven people are usually built that way, other wise they’d never accomplish there goals. If success was the true measuring stick there would be no divorce with couple of financially successful people, but the reverse seems to be true. I can’t say in numbers, but a great number of financially successful people tend to treat their relationships/partners like part of their conquests. Once they conquer something they move on to the next challenge.

Secondly there is this issue of a black man having children from a previous relationship. What a load of crap. If black men were to use the same criterior we’d have just cause to be dating white women, along with any other ethnic group. There are plenty of black men who have been married and divorced with children, they weren’t necessisarily out of wedlock babies. Seems to me that if a man takes care of his children, whether they’re out of wedlock or not, that is a good quality a woman should not criticize or overlook.

Lastly this issue of being in jail is subjective. Some people who go to jail belong there and others go to jail for other reasons. Martin Luther King went to jail several times, so did Malcolm X (sure Malcolm X was a criminal when he was convicted, but he is one of the few I can think of that actually bettered himself while there and came out a better person than when he went in). There are a lot of black men in this country who’ve gone to jail for no other reason than because he was black (guilty or not)! Going to jail is not the issue, but why or what the circ**stances were is. There are plenty of SUCCESSFUL people who have gone to jail, does that contradict your statement? I’m sure Nicole Simpson thought O.J. Simpson was the ideal man when she met him, or maybe the young lady who visited with Phil Spector that night she was murdered, not to think of all the white collar criminals who’ve done more damage to this country than a hundred drug dealers or gang bangers!!! I think if you did a study you’d find that the more money and power a person has the more arrogant ant mean spirited that tend to be (in general). What black women NEED to do is re-define what the term GOOD BLACK MEN are. If you define if for yourselves and not what society states it is you’d be better off!

It’s not common sense. So are you telling me a good looking, well paid, educated brother can’t be conceited or a wife beater? lol.

Great post, you make a lot of sense. It seems to be O. K for other groups of females to expect for their Men/future Husbands to provide for the family. And any Real Man knows that his role is to Provide for his family, especially if he has a wife and brings kids into this world. I’m talking about if a Woman is coming at a (Black) Man, wanting to make things happen, ya’ know she wants to crown you the King and her your Queen. I’ll be damned if a Black Man is going to question my intentions just because I want, and expect a little financial security from him, and he is the one pursuing a serious relationship with me. With that being said, though, I am willing to give what I expect to receive. That’s the difference between Real Women and girls.

I understood exactly what you meant. Some men, I tell ya, they make the mistake of thinking all females are Real Women. They get with the wrong ones and then want to clump all women in the same category.

You’re just talking about a Man who is dependable with a steady job…one who is willing to provide for his family. And NO, you did not say anything about a man having to be wealthy. Matter of fact, you expressed that you were talking about a man providing basic financial stability for his family.

>>>Now it is a different thing if a woman is married to a man who was financially stable and for some reason they fall on hard times that is out of their control. Women should stick with that man. <<<

…And any woman who bails out because a Man falls on hard times, is Weak!

Preach! Amen…

Clearly this is once again another poll put together by a group of over educated under life
experienced, tight ass b***hes [male or female] with to much time on there hands. This is
not enough intelligent data to properly comprise a survey, nor does the information
make sense in terms of proper research, but they think that we are so uninformed, and
ignant, that we would not catch the inconsistantcies, in this report, please dont believe
the hype. Be blessed L.C.J.

So do the gay black women, black women with kids, fat black women, black women who date other races of men, black women who have gone to jail, black women who have not graduated high school, black women with STDs, etc count as good, available black women? WHAT KIND OF BULLS**T IS THAT!? This was nothing but dogma and misandry! You know, there were black men who, even by your standards, are considered good. But now, really, there is no point for these brothers to even find black women attractive. Not with this attitude most of you have against black men. So, f**k it! Brothers, just get your white woman and be happy. Because these women are too far gone!

damn smitty you hitn homeruns

and the winner is heavens illusion.for how many little girls are taught to treat a man

Back in the day they used to say black men were “extinct”, we proved them wrong. So now they are saying “good” black men dont exist. Whats next?! We can either believe the hype or uplift our me…n. Its up to us. This is the second report Ive read on a “BLACK” webiste this week that diminishes the value of our men. The other report I read said that black women shouldnt date DOWN (with black men) but should date UP and OUT thier race (with white men). Seriously?! Remember…most media outlets are owned by white men…so whos really providing us this information? IJS. Im offended that Black Planet would even post this report…smdh

very good point on other groups of females EXPECT their men/future husbands to provide for the family. however when we do we gold digging. SMDH! again very good point.

that’s raxxxxxxxxist

sorry i’m not going to dignify this.. i’m a good man with a good wife who is a beautiful black woman.. regardless of the fact that i have been locked up before, and i do have a daughter who i love very much by another woman before her.. and i still take great care of my woman and my family and my daughter.. so screw your study. and i make about 40 a yr. yes there are good men out there who have struggled to make life for themselves and their families the hard way and some have made mistakes.. but you won’t tell me i’m not one of the good one just because i don’t fit your criteria.. but since you think this way, this is why you are still looking and the mrs. in my life isn’t. thank you

Black woman, meets black guy who treats her well, is successful, looks good ,very healthy and they are the 1st to wonder why is he interested in me?? Something must be wrong with him? And spend the better part of their relationship trying to find fault instead of enjoying what they have!
So black men have to put up with their damn attitude until ….. GET OVER YOURSELVES GIRLS,LOSE THE ATTITUDE!!

Obama-backed rebels killing Libyan blacks

There are persistent reports that U.S.-backed Libyan rebels are killing black Libyans in towns and villages near Tripoli, but the Obama administration and many members of the Congressional Black Caucus remain relatively mute about what human rights groups and eye-witnesses call war crimes and genocide, according to a report from Joseph Farah’s G2 Bulletin.

The rebels committing the slaughter also have the backing of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, or NATO, without which they would not have ousted the government of Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi, who remains in hiding amid reports that he is preparing a counter-insurgency campaign against the loosely controlled rebels.

“These are the ‘liberators’ that President Barack Obama, President Nicolas Sarkozy and Prime Minister David Cameron helped install in Libya,” one source told G2Bulletin. “They all rejected an African Union proposal that would have brought a ceasefire and the warring parties to the table to create a constitution and to hold elections.”

Sources say that the indiscriminate slaughter of black Libyans, some of whom supported Gadhafi, constitutes revenge killings which rebel leaders of the National Transitional Council, or NTC, said are not supposed to be happening.

Observers say that a majority of the blacks who have been rounded up by the rebels are migrant workers from the sub-Saharan countries. The number of those being attacked remains unclear. The nation has a population of about 6.5 million, and there are estimates that some 1.5 million workers from sub-Saharan Africa are living in Libya.

Nevertheless, what observers report as systematic rape, torture, executions by being shot in the back of the head, lynchings, beheadings and horrific internment is happening to black Libyans principally in the towns of Misurata, neighboring Tawergha and in other small towns in the sub-Sahara populated mostly by black Libyans and people from the other black African countries.

In Tawergha, for example, sources say that many of the homes once occupied by black Libyans have been vacated, with many having been ransacked or torched. In referring to the plight of the black Libyans, NTC head Mahmoud Jibril said that “nobody has the right to interfere in this matter except the people of Misurata.”

As the source pointed out, it is the people of Misurata who are undertaking ethnic cleansing.

“Surely, Jibril knows that he’s inciting to further ethnic cleansing” by making such a statement, the source said.

According to various sources, attacks on blacks have been particularly vicious.

The effect of ethnic cleansing in Libya is being felt all over Africa, sources say.

African Union Commission Chairman Jean Ping said that anti-black attacks were one reason many African governments refuse to recognize the new regime as Libya’s legitimate government.

“Blacks are being killed,” Ping said. “Blacks are having their throats slit. Blacks are accused of being mercenaries. Do you think it’s normal in a country that’s a third black that blacks are confused with mercenaries?”

The G2Bulletin has been given access to some of the videos showing the raw brutality toward totally defenseless black Libyans.

As G2Bulletin reported Aug. 10, the intention of the rebels is ethnic cleansing. One video showed black Libyan children massacred with their fingers and legs severed.

Observers note that most of the media has been quiet on the issue, as has the U.N., the Obama administration and even most of the Congressional Black Caucus.

Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr., D-Ill., however, appears to be the exception.

He has called for an investigation by the International Criminal Court into the killings of blacks in Libya. He also will ask that U.S. assistance for reconstruction and transition to democracy in Libya be conditional.

As one writer told WND Editor and CEO Joseph Farah in an email: “No black American would ever vote for (Obama) ever again if the truth came out that he’s murdering” blacks in Libya.

It WAS written by a white woman who is a counsellor on black relationships.

The other thing that they forgot to mention is that some of these good-looking, successful, childless, heterosexual Black men just do NOT want to settle down. Most of the time, a Black man with these stats is looking for a particular woman who will fit their idea of perfection just to have on their arm. Since they feel as though they can play the field and not have anything to tie them down why not? It seems everything with our men is based on looks only(who’s a dime, who’s not). I refuse to prance around in 4 inch stiletto heels, butt and breasts hanging out just to try to pull a man. It’s not sexy, it’s trashy, and I’m sick of seeing the women in Philadelphia prancing around like it’s cute. Men look at you like that’s all you’re good for….a good lay.

Ladies, stop feeling like you’re committing a taboo by stepping outside your race. Personally, I’m tired of all the drama associated with our men. If it isn’t the babies mamas, it’s the “I can’t find a job”, “I don’t own a car”, or “I live at home with my parents”, or men just asking you for sex instead of trying to get to know you. If our men don’t want us, it’s time to either start shopping in other states, like my sister and I do AND starting dating other races(like I already have). White men have all the same stats, minus the drama, and the sex is the SAME(no matter what Black men try to tell you, lol). I meet a Black man at age 37, he has 3 kids, an apt, barely anything to show for his life, and so much baggage it’s ridiculous. I meet a White man, same age, living in a town home, travels every year, good job, car, no kids, never been married, and loves Black women. Hmmm, doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure it out, lol. And before someone uses that “Gold digger” line on me? I pay ALL my bills alone!! I have a good job, I’m putting a daughter through college right now, own 2 homes, drama free, and I have a car. Yes, I get approached every single day by the Black men in my city(I work directly with the public), but if you cannot match me on my level, no I don’t want what you have to offer and I’m not raising your babies for you.

White men have a higher incidence of child abandonment than black men. If you want to know drama just ask an average white woman all the drama they had to go through in their dating lives. Or ask all my female cousins who will never date white again about the abuse, racism, and humiliation they went through at the hands of their boyfriends. You are a dumb fool and most likely a w***e

LOL @ some of these ‘male’ posters and their black woman bashing. Can’t believe yall fell for this crappy article and its fake ass data. The ridiculous generalization about black women by some male posters here via this stupid article is astounding. If you are conscious and smart enough, you would know that you are being played. This is just a divide & conquer stragedy and yall men run in here, eating it up. SMDH. There are too many smart black women out there who know this article is straight CRAP and I would think that there would be many black men who are smart enough to know b.s. when they see it. Guess not!

This is the last I am going to say on the subject. The criteria listed in the article are to me just minimun requirements or a base. They don’t seem all that hard to achieve, granted we live in a difficult economy and some brothers can’t even get a 30K a year job. Yes there are other qualities that are important, but that’s not the argument.

OK Brutal, I guess I read you wrong. With Stamford talking to me as if I was female I guess got a little skittish :)

As many here have already said, this is really a non-study and extremely UNFAIR to put out here like this. All it does is give women yet another excuse not to do right by men… and I say that as a woman!

A few points:

1… WHY are black women still dreaming in color? Open your soul, mind and heart to good men NO MATTER their skin color. If you don’t, the only person you’re short-changing is yourself.

2… A brotha who falls in love with a non-black woman does not do so as a rejection of black women. Honestly, everything isn’t about YOU. The same black man you diss, who wasn’t good enough for you, etc., is the same black man you’re angry at and cut your eyes at as soon as he’s with a non-black woman.

3… My sistas… you want to stop being seen as non-marriage material? Then STOP shouting out your unrealistic criteria for men. STOP saying how much you want a REAL man while sitting in that chair having your weave done, purchasing your fake eye lashes, fake breasts, wearing enough make-up to go Trick-or-Treating, etc. And STOP mistreating other women!

Exactly, forevereternal1!

I do agree there is 3 good men to 100 good women but those qualities listed doesn’t necessarily qualify as “a good man” education, good morals, and common sense are much better qualifications.

HERE YOU GO AGAIN WITH THIS BULLSHYT, NEWSONE YA’LL SUCK SO MUCH ITS NOT FUNNY ITS JUST PURE F**KED UP!!!!!! YOU ONLY PUT OUT STORIES TO DIVIDE BLACK MEN AND WOMEN, YOU NEVER PUT OUT STORIES TO BRING BLACK WOMEN AND MEN TOGETHER…..DAMN YOUR SLAVE MASTERS DICK IS THAT FAR DOWN YA’LL THROATS AND UP YOUR AZZEZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks bro……Very well said!

Thanks bro……Very well said!

TROLLS AND MASK JUMP ALL OVER IT.
THEY LOVE SEEING BLACK MEN AND BLACK WOMEN AT EACH OTHER THROAT.

These stories will never stop until these authors get hit by a car, become a dead victim of a driveby or home invasion. The authors are white men and women who travel the world sleeping with 8 year old girls

WOW INTERESTING!!

people sadly are showing their true colors.
look how quickly so many black men automatcally started bashing black women even though it’s a white women behind the website.

A disgusting, pathetic steaming load of crap disguised with pseudo-stats, and designed to frighten gullible women who believe all of teh B.S. about ‘no good black men’…because we’re allegedly on the down-low, criminals, and have 6 kids by 5 women. Yawn…

I’ll be damned if I give this “article” any credibility by passing it along.

THE “LIST” was written by a white woman so i guess you are off her list.

Interesting that this “study” (the ‘logic’ is pathetic and you can shoot holes in it all day) assumes that ALL black women are “desireable”…

How about this:

Out of those 100 black women how many:
- Have children already?
- Have children by more than one baby daddy?
- Have children by more than two baby daddies?
- Have drug issues?
- Do not have a college degree?
- Are overweight?
- Act in an uncouth manner (with or without a college degree)?
- Have an opinion of black men so low, that it impacts their relationships with me?
- Prefer white men, because “they treat me better”?
- Are verbally abusive?

I wonder how many “good black women” are left?

I’m sure the ratio of “good black men to so called good black women” is equal based on these standards…..but I think the study is outlandish, as the definition is relative. We need to stop looking at each other as a set of standards… he’s got this she’s got that, and start to learn each other individually, a man who isn’t so called good according to this may still treat you good or a woman. This being said, look for someone good for you based on how you gel with each other not the superficial eyes we’ve grown to use.

To disagree, you have to call a sister out of her name? Come on!

As far as “women dont gotta worry about catchn felonies,” that’s less and less true. While not yet jailed and sentenced at the same rates as black and brown men, the rates of incarceration for young black and brown women are on the rise. Seriously. The prison industrial complex is fully operational, and black women are more and more a part of that system. As far as black women “looking down” on black men, there’s precious little to support that. Black women are supporting and holding up our families, even when they have to go it alone. In large part, it’s because they want a black man beside them. In fact black women are less likely than ANY OTHER group to marry outside of their race. That includes black men, who are twice as likely as black women to marry white mates. Who’s brainwashed here? U.S. Black women are the least likely of any group of women to marry. What ticks me off here is that the discussion is focused on blaming black women for a predicament that is clearly institutional. The “black family” has always been under a kind of systemic attack. What’s a trip is how easily we’ve internalized those forces arrayed against us and turned them on each other…DAMN.

And this discussion about “successful” vs. the “unsuccessful.” I know one young man who is working so hard to get his life into a better situation, and he’s surrounded by people on the block who denigrate him as uppity. “Why does he have to do that? Talk like that? Who does he think he is? Trying to be white. You don’t never have time for us.” That’s what he hears when all he’s trying to do is to become “successful,” to find constructive ways to survive and thrive in a system that’s set up to destroy him.

Gotta say that most of the people that I count as successful are those who are actively committed to making some little corner of the planet better than when they got here, better for themselves, for their families, for their communities, etc. They are people who are truly taking care of business in more ways than one…

Im glad that the majority of my people were able to see through this bogus survey, there are so many holes in it that its actually kinda funny!

David, how are you defining decent? Certainly the article is limited in terms of the criteria it sets. But your view that “black women sadly will go around w a chip on their shoulders when it comes to decent brothers” is just a version of the standard stereotype that’s used against black women, many of whom are working double duty just to keep things together. What do you want your daughters to expect from the men who will be their partners?

“Oh, I understand the black condition alright: fatherlessness, unemployment, criminality, poverty, semi-illiteracy, illiteracy, poor health, abortion.”

ANY person of color who could give the TIME OF DAY or an OUNCE of credence to someone who states that, in their opinion, THIS description is “THE BLACK CONDITION” needs to have their head examined, the dogs**t slapped out of them or both!!! Many of us have to deal with these challenges, as do many whites and people of other races. But to allow THAT DESCRIPTION to be affixed to “THE BLACK CONDITION” as if that is our “state of being” is unconscionable, maliciously intended libel!

And some of you all just lap it right up. If only The Drop Squad was real.

Yes, innocent men are locked up. Black and brown men are disproportionately fed into the criminal justice system for non-violent crimes while their white middle or working class counterparts get probation or some kind of second chance.

And yes, jobs are lost. Black people have always been the canaries in the economic coalmine. We’re taken out first. A measure of a man’s character is how he handles the lost job, whether or not he gets back up and keeps trying.

But on the broken condom argument–it just doesn’t happen that often. The number of broken condoms doesn’t account for the majority of black children growing up in single parent (usually mother) households. (Nor does it account for the increasing numbers of black and brown men and women contracting and dying from AIDS.) The failure to use contraception seems a more likely culprit. And THAT is about making responsible choices. And that is an aspect of character.

This Article is very misleading. It takes the total number of black men against the total number of black women and then eliminates men who don’t meet a certain criteria, but the number of women stays the same. Sure enough I went back to the title and it says “only 3 good black men for every 100 black women”. Not “100 good black women”. How many good black men are there for GOOD black women? Are you saying that good black men should be with any black woman just because she’s black? Eliminate the Lesbians, unemployed women, under-employed women, gold digger’s, women with children, overweight women, tire slashing car keying women, daddy issue women, and then tell me how many GOOD men there are to GOOD women and I might be with you.

Conservatism at its core is an opposition to advancement. An opposition to evolution (as a process, not a theory – although that it is true that they oppose this as well). It is a preference to stick to old ways of thinking, behaving and governing regardless of whether they’ve been shown to be outdated, destructive, misguided, or even obsolete. At its core, conservatism rejects philosophies or ideas that incorporate new knowledge, discoveries and conclusions about the world and the human condition in order to cling to old ideas. At the end of the day they are TRADITIONALISTS. Not even conservatives will deny that.

Now ask yourself… in the history of this country, is the freedom, equality & prosperity of Black people in America a TRADITIONAL idea? Or a “progressive” one?

ko ..let’s be real ..good men ..black and or otherwise are out there ….it’s just we/ they are tired of all the bulls**t involed with trying to get with you all!! …i love Chris Rock & Steve Harvey ..cause the may say it with humor ..but none the less …it’s true !! …y’all are never satisfied …never!! ..no matter what we do or give or sacrifice to try an make you happy cause Lord knows we can’t ….. it’s never enough …cause WE are not enough!! ..you all spew this speil about ‘Black Love!!” and all that crap! ..yeah i said crap ..cause that’s what it is ..CRAP!!…..see most black me don’t realize that when they are in an relationship with a black woman …they’re in 1 with her & her girlfriends!! … and all their mess..all their hate!! ..all their resentment …and whatever else they decide to level on him……and that poor sap has NO idea what he’s in for!! …see he can’t figure out why one day he’s the One!! ..and the next ..he is some s**t!! ..because her group has deemed him unworthy …un something….he just don’t know it yet!! ….. then there’s the ‘Dating outside your race bull!!’ …i say screw it …..find Love where and with whom you can …cause when it’s over ..it’s over!! …and all the color crap ain’t gonna make it better!! …. damn staying true your race ..when your race downs damn near everything you do!! …..see oneday she may have to take up the slack more ….or she may have to sacrifice on her hair or nails ..or GOD forbid!! an outfit or shoes! ..cause something needs to be paid!! …. and not b***h about it !! …see you’ll do it …..but we’ll know and hear about it ..till we die..and maybe come back!!…see most men know and are taught …..like Chris said..’don’t nobody give a F**k! about men!! ‘ ..and he’s right ….noone does!! …we are treated like nothing ..like crap by just about everyone on the outside world ….and when we come home to what we mistakenly think is our refuse …..we’re still treated like nothing!! by the people we believe or think that should be on our side …have our back!! …. take up some of the slack or try and ease some of the pain …alittle!! ….nope!! ….or even worse … we’re treated like a walking talking ATM card!! ……cause to most women black , white, brown …. ..whatever!!….but especially black …the only thing that’s good about most black men is (if he has any..cause if he doesn’t GOD help him when it comes to our women!!) our MONEY!! and that’s it …not him …not his heart, not how he treats her …. or does for her …or feels for her….. and not his feelings …or doubts or fears …. cause we ain’t supposed to have any ….we’re supposed to always have a plan …. be able to make a Million out of 15cent …. and keep her in the style and life she feels she should have and as always make her friends oh so envious and jealous!! … cause that’s main thing ….not her …. her friends!!….and if he can’t …F**k Him!! & F**k F**kin’ him!! ..in that order!! now don’t get me wrong there are some WONDERFULL!! Black women out there …the prob’ is all the S**t we have to swim and wade through to find one!!….let alone get one!! …… and Heaven forbid make & keep her happy!! ….i hve been single for along time now ….going on 6yrs .. ..cause i lost my main job ….and have been out of work since Dec 06 till March of this yr… and the black women out here now don’t do poor …and won’t do you id you are such!! …. sorry ..You Won’t!!! …you’ll barely tlk to us!! ….. but have SEX!! with a poor nigga!!?? are you CRAZY!! ….. see the mind set is what’s in it for her …..besides dick!! i mean …..she can buy Dick!! …in any lenght , width, color …. been doin’ it for yrs …… so what’s the pay off for her …..i mean really!! …what??!! ….. maybe a few minutes of pleasure ….aannnddd then what!!! …. .. now i know it may seem like i don’t like black women and that is SO far from the truth ……. what i don’t like yae!! hate is deceit!! …… is making us believe in something …you don’t ….not really …..and not the way you should ……with all the advances we have now to make life better ……we haven’t …we’re farther away from better than we’ve even been ….. it’s funny …and very very sad!! …see ,we seemed to have & cared more…. when we had less!! ……………. The Phantom!!

Let me set the record straight; First of all, I AM one of those so-called “good men” and we sometimes forget if there are any good WOMEN out there and here’s why:
Studies have shown (from a black perspective) that some black women have “used” good black men as “stepping-stones” to get at that more-polished BADBOY.

Note: women have been taken advantage of, this way, too, which is why some can’t stand thugs.

When it comes to Thugs-n-Gentlemen, women will always be looking for those THREE traits:
Money, personality, and appearance. Problem is: BOTH good and bad men have these, so, it’s harder for women to decide. (until they been through a “crash relationship”.)

Sometimes, we have different definitions for what “good” is….Could that be why? Hmmmm…

This article is tacky and trifling which is to be expected as long as Racism/White Supremacy exists. Do NOT drink the Kool-Aid Black people this is just another ploy for them promote sex between White and Black females.

Please visit the ‘cowsclips’ page on youtube.

Black women need to stop listening to these folks who are telling them that there are no good Black men.Just stop listening and just live your life,one is bound to pop up sooner of later.

Well, since I have a credit score of over 700, I make between 50 and 60 grand, I’ve never been on the wrong side of the justice system, I have a home that’s not underwater and I have money in the bank, so I guess going by this study I have 33 women. I wonder where they are. Anyway, this study paints a picture of a demographic, Black men, that is fcking dire and its not a mystery why were in the condition as a race. The problem is how do you solve this situation? Since my son was a small boy, I have tried to teach him that getting an education, working hard, being careful with his money, are important values. I dont’ want to put on my track shoes and chase racism, but there has to be some type of unmitigated circ**stance why my demographic is so pathetic (for a lack of a better word)

co- sign….who wants to give them their ALL (money. time. emotions, etc)and get VERY LITTLE or nothing in return??? Not meee…

Sure, homeskillit! Just give the ones wtih a PERSONALITY, nice eyes ,natural hair and the booty, and I’ll be sassified ;)……

HAHAHAHA!!! Where did they find 100 CHILDLESS black women? Pre-school??

the truth is a woman can have all these things listed in a man and he’ll still cheat, beat her azz, walk all over her, abuse her kids, kill her to cash in on an insurance policy, crush her spirit ETC. in a heartbeat. this is what men do b/c they are led by their pride and their ego and worldly lusts. so it’s not what they have acquired, where theyve been or where they are from that matters, it’s what they have INSIDE right now that counts. they need God’s love dwelling within them to make them be worth sht. how many of them have THAT? about zero

however i had to add this b/c im married to a wonderful God-fearing black man. they do exist and God will guide you in having that perfect man when you submit to His will in being a virtuous woman yourself

The only way to recieve a good man is to be in line with God, all that other stuff is gargabe… but let prove that…

This is from the Apocrypha, the 14 books removed from the Old Testament in 1928…
Sir 26:23 A wicked woman is given as a portion to a wicked man: but a godly woman is given to him that feareth the Lord.

If you out there living wicked you are given to the wicked, that’s why so many people end up with heartbreak, but if you truley obeying the Most High he will guide that godly man that fear him right to you same for men, that godly woman will be revealed to you, as the word says…

Mar 10:6 But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female.
Mar 10:7 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and cleave to his wife;
Mar 10:8 And they twain shall be one flesh: so then they are no more twain, but one flesh.
Mar 10:9 What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.

SIMPLE… Bless you all.

“oh, and by the way i’m married to a wonderful Black man”…

sometimes you people are so full of shyt…

if you are married to a wonderful Black man…all that garbage would have never come to print…but it did…

all this gender warfare is nauseating. folks to smart for your own good, you’ll always be single…

and this article is full of shyt as well…

You don’t know what you’re talking about. The Apocrypha was not removed from the old testament in 1928. It was determined during the Council of Trent in the year 1562 that the 66 books of the bible that we now know would be Canonized. The Catholic Church added the Apocrypha to the Catholic bible, but Protestant bibles never had the Aprocrypha in the first place! Know your history…

Lots of guys overrate most black women! A large percent of the women you overrate don’t deserve it. Most will never get a guy because they are so into them selves.

Until I find a good woman that’s not crazy I’ll be staying single because it seems most women are confused as to what they really want out of life. I’m one example of a black man that’s educated, employed and maintain a healthy lifesytle ..I’m straight, never boring, always keep myself clean, I treat women with respect but they seem to go for the other bs type of guys with the drama ..smh. To me, women are just simply confused.

“i used to make lists too, like when i was a teenager, but i learned from that once i gained some experience and reality slapped me in the face. sorry to break it to you, but the odds of a man possessing ALL the qualities on your list above are very slim.” Not for me.

The point is that great men do exist. It is possible for me to find a man with all the characterstics that i want and more. Mr. Perfect? I never said I was looking for Mr. Perfect. I not looking for someone who is unattractive, not fit, poverty stricken, not ambitious, abusive, feminine, or selfish, either. Really, who is? Its not ok to just settle with individuals in which no compatibility exists just to say I have a man or a have a woman. As stated previously, ” People have to stop expecting more out of their counterparts than they are willing to give or possess themselves.”

Futhermore, I have had a connection/CHEMISTRY with some of those men I found to have all the qualities I was looking for and more but I was just too young at the time and that’s ok because those relationships weren’t meant to be. And by the way, those guys were in my same age range; not dirty old men, so stop reaching and insinuating.

“This is just another attempt to divide and conquer.”

…Short, sweet, succinct and definitely ‘on point’!!!

@Simply Complex_87
“i used to make lists too, like when i was a teenager, but i learned from that once i gained some experience and reality slapped me in the face. sorry to break it to you, but the odds of a man possessing ALL the qualities on your list above are very slim.” Not for me.

The point is that great men do exist. There are many black men with great qualities and we as black women need to stop selling ourselves short because we read some article that told us that good black men don‘t exist or because we saw the relationships our mothers had with our fathers. There are more than 3 black men to every 100 black women. It is possible for me to be in a relationship with a man with all the characteristics that I want and more. So, am I looking for Mr. Perfect? I never said I was looking for Mr. Perfect. I not looking for someone who is unattractive, not fit, poverty stricken, not ambitious, abusive, feminine, or selfish, either. Really, who is? Its a good idea to have some type of standard(s) and not just settle for anything that comes your way. Its not ok to just settle with individuals in which no compatibility exists just to say I have a man or a have a woman. As stated previously, ” People have to stop expecting more out of their counterparts than they are willing to give or possess themselves.”

Furthermore, I have had a connection/CHEMISTRY with some of those men I found to have all the qualities I was looking for and more but I was just too young at the time and that’s ok because those relationships weren’t meant to be. And by the way, those guys were in my same age range; not dirty old men, so stop reaching and insinuating.

This is absolute nonsense. A lot of black women (and most women of any race) would not recognize this fine man standing right in front of them. Sadly many women only know what they know and are conditioned to that. I know several black men (myself included): heterosexual–highly educated from excellent universities, well employed, well-paid, childless, and with a good IRA–and yet black women want a dog! They want to have fun and fool around. These black men are not into the superficial things that these women are into. These men think on a higher plane and are not going to be dragged down by drama.

So ladies—get it together and stop being judgemental and you might be surprised at the wonderful black men all around you. And please stop watching those dumb superficial TV shows that have rotted your minds.

And a lot of them wanted that and they got it, got out of one bad bruising relation and ran to another and when a “good” or “decent” black man came along they had no reference point as how to deal with someone who treats them properly—-so they went back to what they knew.

IT IS TIME TO OWN THIS ONE!!!!

“I not looking for someone who is unattractive, not fit, poverty stricken, not ambitious, abusive, feminine, or selfish, either.”

funny…that’s not the same list you provided earlier. don’t switch up on me now. and what do you mean by you were “too young?” i’m not sure how old you’re talking here, but even teenagers know to pursue relationships with a person they have chemistry with…even better if that person has all the qualities they’re attracted to. simply saying you were “too young” is too vague…but perhaps there was another variable present in those situations that you’re not disclosing…which is fine.

According to a new study there’s only 1 good white man per 10000 women period!

Brother I like your ideas!!! Both black men and women are too superficial thesese days.. And they wonder why their relationships are not successful.You are not going to get everything you want in one person!!! You are kidding yourselves.It is time for people to be realistic and stop looking for Hollywood.The things that are important to me are good character,one that is willing
to work hard /and really wants a relationship,honesty,average appearance/as long as they are neat and clean,hard worker,loves the lord.

My problem with this poll is that I can take damn near everyone of the survey questions and they will reflect that women are in the same boat honestly where are all the good single black women who don’t have emotional hang-ups, children from other men, a job, are good shape and in health, i mean for real the list can go on and on… this article sounds like it was written by a sista who is pissed off at all black men bcuz she dated that one loser who after investing her time in realized he didn’t want her…. so to hell with this article it is so damn loaded and biased….

How old are you? Because I swear you are 15

It was actually written by a white woman. Her name is Meggin Sanez and she is a black relationship counsellor. Please guys stop assuming it was written by a Black woman.

It then behooves black men to try not to fall into any of the categories that would make us not a good man

It then would behoove us not to fall into any of those categories that would not make us “good black men”. We can choose to stay in school or get our GED; we can choose to wear condoms; we can choose to avoid questionable activities and questionable friends that would tend to lead us into illegal activities. Also, we can learn to ignore the push of mass media and appreciate the value of our ladies for who they are and not for a stereotype of “the black woman”. We can learn to read, go to a junior college and get a trade that can bring a reasonable income. We can stop being “players” and see ourselves as strong descendents of kings that have taken care of our families and stop seeing ourselves in the one-dimensional stereotypes like the entertainment business sees us. We can be proactive and not reactive to every negative comment about us. Most of all, this is our heritage, can turn our lives over to Jesus Christ and He will work in us both to will and to do of His good pleasure and we will then have good success.

HERE YOU GO AGAIN WITH THIS BULLSHYT, NEWSONE YA’LL SUCK SO MUCH ITS NOT FUNNY ITS JUST PURE F**KED UP!!!!!! YOU ONLY PUT OUT STORIES TO DIVIDE BLACK MEN AND WOMEN, YOU NEVER PUT OUT STORIES TO BRING BLACK WOMEN AND MEN TOGETHER…..DAMN YOUR SLAVE MASTERS DICK IS THAT FAR DOWN YA’LL THROATS AND UP YOUR AZZEZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This article must have been written tongue in cheek. The math is outrageous. A homosexual, beauty-challenged, unsuccessful baby-daddy would be subtracted from the good black man pool four times (in stead of once). All the while the number of (presumably good) women looking for a good black man remains a static 100. I can assure you not all black women want a good black man and more importantly not all black women deserve one.

How do your “statistics” take in account that the majority of black men in prison probably do not have a High School Diploma? Or a job that pays at least $30,000 a year? These are not separate groups, they overlap all the time!

This article must have been written tongue in cheek. The math is outrageous. A homosexual, beauty-challenged, unsuccessful baby-daddy would be subtracted from the good black man pool four times (in stead of once). All the while the number of (presumably good) women looking for a good black man remains a static 100.

They all dead, in prison or on crack

Well I just so happen to know at least 5 good “black” men. Hmmm…

Wow this is a hot button topic. I think the article is just that……..an article. Yes there are decent men who have been to jail, yes there are some great men who already have children, but to say it is selfish of a woman to desire a man with a job and no children is ridiculous. People want what they want. If a man has no children one might assume he has more time for his lady. The lack of children may also indicate he wears condoms and values his health as well as his freedom.

Also, a woman wanting a man with a decent job isn’t asking too much, especially if the woman in question is educated. The bible says the man is supposed to be the provider. Black women have taken a lot of punches this year, and now it seems as if we are getting sucker punched by our own.

I think the real issue here is some of the people reading this don’t feel as if they measure up. Any confidant man who read this article would take it as a grain of salt, instead of ragging on women who may relate to the “study”.

I completely concur. Thumbs up to you.

And tell me, exactly how many of your friends are rich and successful? Oh and is success solely defined by the monetary gains of an individual?

Great comment Simply. It is truly refreshing to see that some sistahs can see through the divide and conquer BS. We sure could’a used more voices like yours when the civil rights movement was being cointelproed by the women’s liberation movement.

The choices that people make in a mate are simply reflections of themselves. If your man treats you like s**t it is because you feel that way about yourself. Most women look for the men who are challenges to them because it is more exciting so they choose the thug or the playa type. End result those very challenges are what leads to a break up and another single parent situation if children are involved. Bottom line if you want a better relationship, become a better person, so that you can make a better choice.

As my father used to say to me when I was a young boy, “If GOD himself was to come down here and place a good man by a woman’s side, she would still be looking for someone better.”

Spare me the studies, I know so many black women who had Mr. Right at their sides and these women blew these men off.. labeled them as weak and too soft…

They wanted the thug element… and I quote, “A man they know that can protect them.” WHAT?

These are the same women who complain later in life, I should have gotten with such and such… Even in my own experience, women I had huge crushes on in high school who once considered me a nerd or “You’re like my brother”, now see me as a good, strong black man. Why? because I am a good man. I take care of my kids, I have a career and I’m straight!!!!

These studies don’t ask these women the real questions, how many Mr. Rights did you blew off because you felt he was too soft or simply not husband material for you, but now see that same man as the ideal man or husband?

The good black men are out there sisters, all you have to do is look to your right or left side and he maybe standing right next to you…

If a man is successful, doesn’t have children out of wedlock, no crminal record, and is attracted to black women, in good health, and is educated why in the world would he be single? Either he is a player, or hasn’t found “a GOOD BLACK WOMAN” to love him for the person he is and not his status or possessions… It’s funny how someone’s material things or what is in a bank account or how someone looks makes some women experts on how a man “might” treat a woman.. Maybe he’s single because he treats women like s**t?? And having a kid out of wedlock or having a bad past or childhood or maybe not having a college degree or becoming a M.D. doesn’t make a man a bad person. You sound like you are looking for specific qualities which is fine if that’s what you do, but there are great men, fathers as single parents out there that don’t get any publicity. Only negative men are in any topic on these kinds of sites… You don’t know anyone’s personal situation or background to make ignorant observations about someone’s character. Sometimes and not all of course, things you go through that are negative have a positive influence on your life and make you a better person. You sound a little immature in your statements. I hope you find what you want and don’t get burned in the process. That tainted view of what you think gives someone a better chance at treating a woman better isn’t always true. And it’s not just about what a man has or how he looks. A woman needs to bring the same qualities she’s looking for to the table. Which in some instances is not the case…

Ps, I forgot to mention the money factor. If a brother isn’t rolling in money and is common worker, he is completely out… I have seen so many sisters opt for the drug dealer or the neighborhood pimp before they would look at a brother with a book and dream of completing college… These brothers don’t count… These studies are bogus!!!

It seems like articles like these are written everyday. Therefore you have more Black people dating “out” of their race. Maybe if articles were written everyday about the school to prison pipeline and the reasons why a large % of Black men are in prison, then perhaps we’d try to fix our problems, rather than going to the people who caused them, benefit from them and maintain the structure.

Today, I know about 9 brothers w/ degrees who are unemployed. I know tons of brothers who graduated from college and are working blue collar jobs. I know tons of brothers who get 1 or two year run at jobs, then are unemployed for 6 months or longer, then back to work for for a year or two and over and over again.

Until we deal with the real issues that continue to rip us apart, we will continued to go for the oaky-doke by folks who have their own agenda, albeit dating sites, columnist, websites, organizations, etc…

If a person has a rifle and MY BACK is the target. I don’t tell my children to marry his or her children. I don’t care if they are Black/White/Latino/Asian/Whatever. It’s not smart.

There are more articles on Black sites about interracial dating than there are about: Prison to Jail Pipeline, HIV/AIDES, in the Blk community, our HIGH drop out rates, Drugs (not the glorification), Health disparities between Black and white, ECONOMIC DISPARITIES between Blk and whte (White women make more than Black women and the white men make more than brothers). How about this… Black on Black crime and hatred of each other and the history behind it? How about the HOPELESSNESS in ghettos across America. Mental Health… cause we obviously are in need.

Why not articles like these at the same rate as the dating outside your race articles?

i get it that these are “superficial” qualities but stop making excuses. what the heck is wrong with black men?? yes other qualities are more important but why are more black men not finishing college, going to jail and having kids out of wedlock than any other race? something is not right with that picture. the ideal man for me is black but not with those statistics. sad.

i think it’s a shame that my black brothas and sistas can’t agree to disagree on a topic without the name-calling…”B***hes this and B***hes that”…i know one thing that a good man doesn’t do, he doesn’t belittle a black woman to make himslf feel adequate….#I’mJustSaying

Back in the 1960′s they begin with a plan to destroy our community and that plan is WORKING. They use the jails & prison to jump start it but CRACK was the back breaker.

I just read your article and wanted to point out some important math errors. In order to be able to multiply ratios as you have in the piece, each of the ratios must be independent in that if you remove folks in step 2, none of those folks can appear in the ratio used to remove folks in step 6 unless they appear in equal proportion. Your categories are:

male: female
Gay vs. straight
black vs other race partner
jail vs no jail
highschool vs not
employed vs not
income $30k+ vs not
in shape vs. not
has other kids vs not

Ok, here’s the problem … some of the people in each category are also in other categories. For example:

- some gay black men don’t have a high school diploma, went to jail and don’t have a job
- a lot of black men without a high school diploma are unemployed (more than half)
- ALL of the unemployed guys make less than $30K and most of the guys making <$30K are underemployed or unemployed
- most of the guys who've gone to jail are unemployed and make <$30k

And so on …

Also, it was good that you netted gay men vs. gay women (i guess) but why not also take out black women who date white men, or women who are otherwise unsuitable (in jail, have kids with another guy, and so on), oh and remember a LOT of black guys are married and in great relationships (and therefore not available)?

I think you do the black community a grave disservice by perpetrating the myth that black men are somehow inferior to others.

Just saying.

First of all, let me start by saying WTF!!! Are you kidding me? Do a study on black women and see what you come up with… More black women than men are over weight, yet we still accept you all. Black men date white women mainly because you get the beauty and blessing of having a woman without all the drama that comes standard with most black women. They say only 2% of black women are openly gay??? I don’t believe that for one second… I know way more gay women than men. And all these superficial qualities… you have to be kidding. What I’m gone need from you black women is, TAKE YOURSELF OFF OF THAT SELF ATTAINED PEDASTOOL OF YOURS. NEWS FLASH: YOU ARE NOT ALL THAT. And childless??? Give me a F’n break. There are very few black women out there who don’t have kids, and just because they don’t have kids doesn’t mean they have never been pregnant. Black men cant go get an abortion. So, please stop with all this bull about black men because you are no better! One more thing… Damn near every black woman I have ever been with had a man or a dip on the side so stop acting like yall s**t don’t stink!!!

I love my brothers. I have 2 black sons. They are both loving caring men. They are both good men. I believe society as a whole has tried so hard to portray black men as bad people. I dont know why surveys continue to come out comparing them to everyone and then scoring them at the bottom. Lets just look at people as human beings. Period!. Wheres the survey for how many “good white men” for white women. Did I miss that one?

More bullshyt from people that are not Black…But I wonder how many “good Black women” are available for Black men..for example….Women without children…women that are not overweight…

Supposed the “study” eliminated (in the first cut) black men whose undesireable trait happens to be an aversion to black women who are felons, unemployed, uneducated, with child(ren), out of shape, and under employed. As an aside, the “study” doesn’t even address “good” men that are short.

What happened to GOD fearing and Spiritual? What happened to hard working in any legal job? What happened to the fact that if he does have a little one that he takes care of his responsibilities with that child? What happened to how he treats his mother and sisters?

A good woman can possibly assist a good potential brother to clear up most of these so called criteria’s.

I had all these attributes 6 years ago. I’m 45 years old and my oldest son just turned 6 and my oldest daughter just turned 5. I built my first house at age 30. I am a 25 year IT professional running my own IT Consultancy small business. We married 2 months after my daughter was burn. I of course dated females since grade school so…

I had my home 5 years before meeting my wife. All furnished. More stuff to build and improve of course but mostly complete. Then I met her and I thought I had met the right black woman. She is also 10 years younger. Well to make a long story short I wished I’d stayed single. Not by the kids but she turned out different than the original woman that I previously meet. But I’m still with her and married because I really really love my children.

LOL!!!

LMAO!!!

ROTFLMAO!!!

People need to stop buying into this rubbish

How come I only see these articles about black women/black men? When I ride the subway I hear PLENTY of caucasian women complaining about not being able to find a suitable mate. They run into the ones that like to “party” all the time (drinking, clubbing,etc.) and trust, they are looking for a certain income the mate has to make, the mate has to have a certain look, etc.
In short, all should stop being so superficial – having a good job with money today doesn’t mean you will have it tomorrow (plenty of CEO’s, COO’s, CFO’s ,executives, and those in the upper middle class are out of work RIGHT NOW).
Are they responsible? Taking care of their needs? compassionate, trustworthy, etc.? Look beyond the hype…

And meanwhile most black women are obese (80%), moronic, smelly, psychopathic, greedy, needy, whiny, WITCHES.

Good luck with that, “ladies”.

Again, and that is not factoring in THE HORRIBLE SMELL of black women (like rotting garbage mixed with rancid fish) (suppressing gagging noises).

http://minorityhealth.hhs.gov/templates/content.aspx?ID=6456

Obesity and African Americans

African American women have the highest rates of being overweight or obese compared to other groups in the U.S.

* About four out of five African (80%) American women are overweight or obese.
* In 2009, African Americans were 1.5 times as likely to be obese as Non- Hispanic Whites.
* In 2009, African American women were 60% more likely to be obese than Non-Hispanic White women.
* In 2007-2008, African American children were 30% as likely to be overweight than Non-Hispanic Whites.

i have met white men w/ high school educations that are financially set for life. or retired in their forties.i have met tenured professors and corporates that secretly confess they got in the “catbird seat ” so to speak, on cronyism greasing their way, and quietly admit they did not deserve the privilege at all. i suspect many of the hotshot types i mingle socially with are very successful dope dealers…or would start in street trade in a pinch. I am quiet,reasonable,intelligent,and quite sane thanks. i suppose thats why these people come to me and confess this sort of thing. might not qualify as sane much longer,though.oh yes, i bathe often,too.

Lord help me for saying this but I do not want to date out of my race! But what if this stat is indeed true. As I sat to read this post alongside of the comments, it hurts my heart, mind, and soul as an American black woman who wants to continue believing honestly that there is a black man out here specially designed for me by my Father above. But everyday, all I see approaching me are men of color who judge me for what I say and do, what I have done in my past not ever trying to give a sista praise for what and who I’ve become and grown into today after my many trials and tribulation and a bunch of misgivings. And then on the other flip of the coin, I’m being approached in 2011 by CEO, VP, and Owners of businesses who are white men and honestly I know some of the sista are going to get me for this…but I’m a little nervous. I’m still being honest stuck thinking about Florida lynching. I’m really nervous about that. There was just a trial about a black man being tied to a log in Texas by 3 white men and his head was detached along with his body parts and only one of those white boys got the death penalty. Im not trying to be that next sista in the news frankly. So I’m saying all that to say this…black men need to step it up a whole 10 notches and get it together. Our generation will soon be a non existent black generation otherwise. Blessings. M.

Now please do that same break down taking those 100 black women and see what they come up with. This is the most silliest things that I’ve seen in a while..

I find the requirements for a man unrealistic ,you know some of the same things women are looking for they dont even fit the criteria .How many women have kids but want a man with no kids ,how many women make less but want a man that makes more ,how many women have a son ,brother ,cousin or father with a wrap sheet but you want a man with a clean sheet .I am a woman and if i was a man with all the restrictions women have i would not give them the time of the day .They really dont want a good man they just want a person who can take care of them and pay the bills .
If my son had a wrap sheet ,or my brother ,my nephew i would want someone to lve them with no restrictions so why would i not date a man with a wray sheet .There is no perfect person out there we all have faults ,what we have to do is look at the big picture and give all need to quit trying to turning people into what you want .We have to embrace the good in a person and work on the bad ,you get out of a relationship what you put in sometimes .Life is short there are no guarantees in life ,so what if that man has a wrap sheet and he makes less does he respect you is he there for you is he good with your kids and does he bring you happiness right now them embrace that and quit worrying about down the road .My husband is an excon and i am proud to say its the best decision i have ever made in my life .Was giving a young man who was just out of prison after 9 years with no where to go ,no money a job that was paying 6.25 hardly any clothes and a son he had not seen in a few years .Never once did i see the wrap sheet never once did i see any of the baggage i saw ,a young man who had a very abusive childhood which led to crime ,my sons life flash infront of me this could be my son ,i had to do something to save him and save my son with no dad .Iam the luckiest happiest woman in my marriage with my excon my son has a dad that loves him and teaches him how to be a good man ,My nephew now had a uncle that teaches him life how to be how not to be and i might not have money but i have a partner for life .
All the things these women want is all good but in the end is you dont have love in you life nad love in your heart ,aperson to share the good and the bad a person you know will always be there all those things dont matter .Its been over 11 years we are together ,and after havin a man with no wrap cheat ,a man that made 60,000 plus a man that had family insurance yes he had kids but guess what .He cheated not stop he abused me mentally and physically for years ,so you see there are no guarantees .I never worked this hard on a relationship ,i have learnt i have grown ,i understand more about dealing with others emotions ,i know i cant change a prson i help them to change themselves .I have also learn you cant find that person partner you have to take what you get and make it what you want .Now ladies instead of all the restrications take the best out the pack a give a brother a chance .Be sucure enough in your own skin to know yu are the best andmake him appreciate what he has and teach him how to do the leg work to keep you .Iknow so many dont want to be a mans mom guess what thats what it will take to make them secure enough in the relationship ,so many of these men has lots of mental unresolved things going on in their head .They are still trying to find their own place in life give the brother a chance .Sista to sista

Why did they whittle the man’s number down using criteria but didn’t whittle the woman’s number down using the same criteria? This makes no sense.

I completely agree with you. Before I met the guy I’m dating now, I was on-and-off with another guy who, on paper, seemed great; he had a great career, had a nice body, was very smart…but he also treated time with me very carelessly…we had a long-distance relationship anyway (I won’t get into everything, but we actually had been talking as friends for the past three years and he suggested that we meet to see if there was anything worth pursuing. There wasn’t. I stopped calling him).

Make no mistake, I want a man to have his own, but I’d rather be single than be with a guy whose cover looks great, but the inside is a terrible read.

We women should be looking for men who are willing to court us, to respect us and listen to us and who are willing to give us the shirt off their backs or make sacrifices for us, no matter the size. By doing this, a good woman will be willing to return the favor.

The Study is funny but I don’t see the problem. When BM have criteria women are expected to shut up and follow the “leader.” However when BW (who are always being told to make better dating choices) Start to think LOGICALLY and set the criteria, men are upset…laughable.

When building a relationship MONEY IS A KEY FACTOR. No women or sane man wants to build anything when they cant afford to even lay the foundation. The fact BM are the most unemployed disqualifies then as suitable long term partners. They are a liability. However, I bet they still mange to get money to go to out to clubs, drink, and purchase porn videos. Its just human behavior to feed your low nature when you are depressed and the BM has been depressed for a long long time. SO depressed that he takes his anger out on his women and children.

I for one don’t see a problem with the study, if this is what the ladies want. Simple put there are NOT ENOUGH BLACK MEN for ever black women to have one. It is simple numbers.

Great observation. If they’d whittled the woman’s numbers down using the same or similar criteria there would be no reason for you or I to respond. I hypothesizing they would have ended up with 4 good women to 3 good men. No big deal. Either way, the application of the percentages is flawed.

When a woman wants a man with certain qualities, she is superficial and has standards that are “too high.” When a man has certain standards, he is just aware of his wants/needs. Oftentimes women appreciate and date a man with “a lil gut” as women are more likely to be attracted based on personality looking past other aspects than men. How many men have certain color women they won’t date, or a certain length of hair, or cup size or body shape??? It’s a shame that basic qualities have become “high standards.” 30k a year is rich now? Really?! I think heterosexual is a given, not even counting the down low nonsense. The rest simply translates to a more appealing mate, not that he’d be perfect in how he treats you, but why is it wrong to want your man (maybe future husband) to only have children with you? The article may not be completely accurate, but portions of it definitely ring true.

More mind control and brainwashing for the Amerikkan women,destroyed by the white worlds womens liberation garbage.They brainwash them in the womb before they are born,the mother sends the thoughts to the unborn.Nothing else can explain why most of them are crazy compared to other women of color in the world,they love the white man,he is jesus to them.Conscious Black women is like trying to find a needle in a haystack,the masses of them will never change,they are a lost cause.I understand why men in cultures that have been around for a long time keep their women in check at all cost,they do not want their families to be destroyed like us.Thank the white way of life that they choose freely to accept,as long as the whites give them the freedom to put a foot up the Black mans butt everything is fine,their nature is to bow down to men in power,and they serve the system with pleasure.

Control the women,you control the whole race.

Ah give up,you got a Black eye in the game,no one agrees with your twisted facts.

Jasmine,
I can answer your question. Black girls are encouraged to go to college and finish. Black boys are told that they are not college material. The other reason for this is that our schools are making it possible for black girls to have all the resources they need to in order to complete the task of making it to college. I hate to say this but the system is designed to make it where black women can achieve more the black man and when that happens, it causes chaos in the black family…

Take a look at corporate America and you will see that more black women are in senior management positions than black men…

Trust this, black men want to go to college and we want complete the degree, the problem is we are not encouraged nor are we prepared to attend college. This is why there is a huge problem in our communities. For most brothers, black women don’t respect them if they don’t have anything to bring to the table… This is where you sisters has to be willing to encourage and support us on all levels…

DJ,
No truer words has been written… You know of which you speak my brother… The system is in place to keep us divided and divided we are…

This article is extremely offensive and racist and I defy any one to say that it’s not

It’s satire.

It doesn’t matter what defines “good”, the list is bull. Black men being fat and child free isn’ t the problem, its their stank attitudes and sense of entitlement they direct at black women exclusively that I can’t stomach.

it’s not

u forgot…how many have real hair?!!?..u act fake men treat you fake!..just think if black men wore weaves?

Because this is “your” site for black people.
When you want to read more about white people then you should go
to white peoples site lol

You can do it but you don’t lol

You wish but it isn’t that way lol

Given the plight of our people and our circ**stances. U will probably be by yourself if you do not think outside of the box. what about a G-d fearing man who may hv made a mistake o two in the past . yet, now he is on track. She we count him out. I love my blk people especially my BLACK brothers. A blk man sired me. Yes we key wd we hv issues yet I will continue to keep the faith. Bless

How do you know that?Did you travel with them and have sex with 8 year young children???
You are nasty …

You are a liar and a dumb fool and I guess very angry not to get a nice guy.

The chances of a Black woman finding a “Good” Black man are extremely slim, according to a study by Best Black Dating Sites.
That is what the article is about you dumb ass….
What does the article have to do with
Obama-backed rebels killing Libyan blacks…

You sound bitter.

Because the other 97 of them are coo coo! I have gotten to the point to where I dont even want to meet / talk to another black woman…

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Act 5:31 Him hath God exalted with his right hand [to be] a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins.

LOST SHEEP OF ISRAEL
JUDAH….THE NEGROES
BENJAMIN….WEST INDIES
LEVI….HAITIANS
SIMEON…..DOMINICANS
ZEBULON….GUATEMALA TO PANAMA
EPHRAIM….PUERTO RICO
MANASSEH….CUBANS
GAD….NORTH AMERICAN INDIANS
REUBEN….SEMINOLE INDIANS
NAPTHALI….ARGENTINA TO CHILE
ASHER….COLUMBIA TO URUGUAY
ISSACHAR….MEXICANS

While I don’t dispute that the percentages for each category may be correct or close to the actual number, anyone who knows anything about statistics would know that most of the categories are not mutually exclusive. In terms of a Venn diagram, there would be many overlapping circles for brothas who fall into multiple categories. For instance, many brothas that have been to jail do not have diplomas nor a job, and may have children. The problem with this study is that they treated each group of brothas as though they could only fall into one category, when anyone with a brain knows that many of the brothas who fall into one will fall into at least one other if not many more.

I was always curious about the numbers for each group but it would be nice if they could retool this study to account for intersections of categories, and report back with a realistic number. I know that the brothas who do not fall into any of the above categories are scarce but we aren’t that scarce. I don’t fall into any of those categories myself (although I could always be in better shape) and I know plenty of brothas who are also excluded from those groups.

Take heart Black women, we are out there, you just have to know where to find us and how to let us know that you’re interested. Many of us who do not qualify for any of the aforementioned categories are pretty low-key, not flashy, and easy to miss. We are usually not the ballers or the players or the pretty boys or the brotha with crazy game, so forth and so on. I know that too many women want all of the swag associated with these stereotypical images, without any of the negatives, but realistically speaking, most of those guys will fall into one of the categories above.

No one is telling you to lower your standards but make sure that your criteria are realistic. Most mature men know that they’re not going to find a women who has all of the qualities of a good wife, who just happens to be a Melissa Ford or Esther Baxter look-alike. It’s nice to have ideals but you have to face reality. That doesn’t mean that anyone has to settle but they may need to readjust their perspective. You might find your match in a package you weren’t expecting, but one that will still make you happy, and that goes for both sexes.

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Act 5:31 Him hath God exalted with his right hand [to be] a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins.

LOST SHEEP OF ISRAEL
JUDAH….THE NEGROES
BENJAMIN….WEST INDIES
LEVI….HAITIANS
SIMEON…..DOMINICANS
ZEBULON….GUATEMALA TO PANAMA
EPHRAIM….PUERTO RICO
MANASSEH….CUBANS
GAD….NORTH AMERICAN INDIANS
REUBEN….SEMINOLE INDIANS
NAPTHALI….ARGENTINA TO CHILE
ASHER….COLUMBIA TO URUGUAY
ISSACHAR….MEXICANS

You sound guilty.

It is racist. I won’t disagree with that one bit.

Conscious= no daddy to filter the bull. Even women with fathers who claim to be “awake” have this WTH-look on their face when some you speak.

Did they rate the women based on the same criteria?

One of the two issues on this study are:

1. The part about “good looks”. Looks are subjective and beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I have different taste in men from my friends. Just because I have different taste doesn’t mean that the men that they think are sexy are unattractive or vice versa.

2. Also, they should have broken the “jail” and “prison” section down into what the arrests were for, i.e. if they were for violent crimes as opposed to non-violent crimes marijuana arrests, multiple speeding tickets or lack of paying child support

I also wonder if the stats on income are a few thousand dollars too low.

If they allow the men to have one child and account for the other items I addressed above, this ratio would greatly improve.

I don’t know about all this… I see it as just one human race…

I do like black women…

White male, shaved head, 6′ 5″, tattooed, likes BMW motorcycles and automobiles, in great shape…

Go for a ride, baby?

All men are born of a woman.

Why all the name calling yo. Respond to the article. Why are you calling the responder a b***h for giving an opinion. The article speaks about why black women can’t find good black men, so give your opinion. I agree with simply complex. I work in DC and in the DC metropolitan area, men outnumber women by a significant margin. A good number of those men are gay, so the dating field is about equal. That being said, women that I know professionally and personally, complain about how hard it is to meet eligible men. When I introduce them or point out eligible bachelors who are employed, college educated, and childless, something is still missing from what they are looking for. Some of them are superficial and some of them have serious mental issues. You seem to lump all men into your negative outlook on life.

Although some black men may have it hard, many of then are doing just fine. What are you doing to catch felonies and getting shook down by cops. I’m not naive, I know rogue cops exist, but to say cops are just rolling up on black men, shaking them down and slapping felonies on them is stretching the truth son. I believe a small percentage of black men may have been shook down and charged falsely with felonies, but not in large numbers such as the way you make it sound.

In my opinion, women who say good black men are nonexistent or are on the decline, are not serious about looking for a good man. That statement is made so that some of these single women remain single and do them. Take away superficial wants and these women will be fine. As for you calling the responder a b***h, you will probably remain single beating off.

In response to Stamford-16,

Why all the name calling yo. Respond to the article. Why are you calling the responder a b***h for giving an opinion. The article speaks about why black women can’t find good black men, so give your opinion. I agree with simply complex. I work in DC and in the DC metropolitan area, men outnumber women by a significant margin. A good number of those men are gay, so the dating field is about equal. That being said, women that I know professionally and personally, complain about how hard it is to meet eligible men. When I introduce them or point out eligible bachelors who are employed, college educated, and childless, something is still missing from what they are looking for. Some of them are superficial and some of them have serious mental issues. You seem to lump all men into your negative outlook on life.

Although some black men may have it hard, many of then are doing just fine. What are you doing to catch felonies and getting shook down by cops. I’m not naive, I know rogue cops exist, but to say cops are just rolling up on black men, shaking them down and slapping felonies on them is stretching the truth son. I believe a small percentage of black men may have been shook down and charged falsely with felonies, but not in large numbers such as the way you make it sound.

In my opinion, women who say good black men are nonexistent or are on the decline, are not serious about looking for a good man. That statement is made so that some of these single women remain single and do them. Take away superficial wants and these women will be fine. As for you calling the responder a b***h, you will probably remain single beating off.

Why all the name calling yo. Respond to the article. Why are you calling the responder a b***h for giving an opinion. The article speaks about why black women can’t find good black men, so give your opinion. I agree with simply complex. I work in DC and in the DC metropolitan area, men outnumber women by a significant margin. A good number of those men are gay, so the dating field is about equal. That being said, women that I know professionally and personally, complain about how hard it is to meet eligible men. When I introduce them or point out eligible bachelors who are employed, college educated, and childless, something is still missing from what they are looking for. Some of them are superficial and some of them have serious mental issues. You seem to lump all men into your negative outlook on life.

Although some black men may have it hard, many of then are doing just fine. What are you doing to catch felonies and getting shook down by cops. I’m not naive, I know rogue cops exist, but to say cops are just rolling up on black men, shaking them down and slapping felonies on them is stretching the truth son. I believe a small percentage of black men may have been shook down and charged falsely with felonies, but not in large numbers such as the way you make it sound.

In my opinion, women who say good black men are nonexistent or are on the decline, are not serious about looking for a good man. That statement is made so that some of these single women remain single and do them. Take away superficial wants and these women will be fine. As for you calling the responder a b***h, you will probably remain single beating off.

I’m married so I’m not on the list to begin with. Plus I’m college educated, and employed so this really doesn’t apply to me. Haha!

I’ve already denounced the data as bull and stated that what my issue with black men was so stop acting like you were attacked personally. “I’m college educated and employed” and you can’t read either. Add impulsive to the list of grievances and haha my butt.

I have no problem with what this article says that black women want. That being said, my eyebrow raised when they said they want a man that doesn’t have kids by another woman. That is kind of ironic because where I live (Indianapolis) a black woman over the age of 25 with no kids is about as rare as a Unicorn.

Other than that, a black woman that wants a black man, with a job, isn’t gay, makes 30K, was never in prison, has a high school diploma, and looks good and is in shape doesn’t sound too unreasonable.

I don’t think it’s fare to put down black women for having these criteria in looking for a mate. This is pretty much the same thing that ALL women want, regardless of race. Sometimes one might have to compromise on one or two points, but there is nothing wrong with any of these desires.

I am not black, am now middle-aged and have no interest in dating anymore, but when I was single I had the same criteria as most black women. The only difference between me and other white girls was that I didn’t mind dating, and in fact enjoyed going out with men from all over the world. When I did marry and have a child, my husband was Hispanic. He hit every single one of the criteria listed here.

Give black women a break. The most important thing they want is what most every woman wants: Commited love, security, fidelity and maybe some kids. Is that too much to ask?

@55hole

I STOP DATING BLACKGUYS MANY MOONS AGO WHITEMEN SEEM TO LOVE ME AND NURTURE ME THE WAY I LIKE, MY DAUGTHERS WILL DATE ONLY WHITE MEN. SAD THAT ITS COME TO THIS BUT SISTERS REFINE YOUR DAUGTHER .TEACH THEM TO MARRY NON BLACK MEN.FOR THE GOOD OF HER OWN SANITY.

WORKING WITH BLACKMEN IS A FULL TIME JOB, YOU DONT HAVE TIME TO BE THE WOMEN YOU WHERE MEANT TO BE WITH BLACKMEN YOU BUST SHAPING AND BEGGING HIM TO DO THE RIGHT THING ,AT LEAST WHITEMEN WILL TAKE ON MORE THAN HIS SHARE OF RESOPNSIBILITIES SO THAT HIS LADY CAN FOCUS MORE ON HER MANS NEEDS,

LADIES DAMN ALL THAT SUPERWOMEN/STRONGWOMEN MESS WE ARE TIRED AND FED UP WITH TAKING THE BLAME AND RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE ENTIRE FAMILY,AT LEAST WITH WHITEMEN THEY WILL HELP AROUND THE HOME ,HELP WITHIN THE HOME WORK AS A UNIT WITH THE FAMILY AS HIS FATHER TAUGHT HIM. BLACKMEN JUST CANT TELL WHICH HEAD TO USE AT WHAT TIMES.SAD

Everyone has in their mind what the “ideal mate” is for them…that being said, I prefer dating “black men” only. Contrary to popular belief there are some kind, decent, hardworking black men out there that (go to church, have no children, highschool/college educated, decent, kind, vote, knowledgeable about current events, and are doing the “right thing”). The problem is too many women are thirsty for the men…so men keep their options open and have their way. Some women (not all) don’t set a standard, it’s good to have a standard nothing wrong with that, as long as what you’re asking for (you- yourself are also). jmo

What I think? It sounds true but couldn’t be supported in the field. Some of these studies are pulling records from sources that if you talk to the researcher, they would say how difficult the African American niche is to study. I should know because I’ve worked as technical consultant for some of these firms. For example, where did the figure comes from about obese African American men? I’ve was told that I weigh more than I should for my height with a football body but have never been described as obese or overweight by anyone; however, I would be listed in this study. So don’t believe it because it is actually not true! If you buy into the scarcity trap, this will be your reality and as a relationship coach, I wouldn’t be having the success I provide for my clients if this was the case.

First of all look for A Man, get to know A Man, then decide what you can live with or with out. To many times women have a made up man in there mine and can’t see a real man standing in front on them due to there clouded judgement or what there friends have to say.

Okay, folks. Let’s get real here. The poll is not THAT bad.

A man who isn’t likely to return to jail, can spend Christmas with you without worrying about Baby Mama Drama and makes above minimum wage working full time — AKA doesn’t have to live on his Mama’s dime — this is not the highest bar ever. I wouldn’t even call it superficial, it’s just — reality.

You want to have a relationship? It takes a little bit of money, a little bit of time (out of jail) and some freedom (from calls, texts and slashed tires from a baby mama of long ago)

So trying to make it sound like this list is asking a whole heck of a lot is ridiculous. In my opinion – it’s the bare minimum just to even have a functional relationship… Even the obese thing, it’s a health concern. Heart attack and a date just don’t go well together.

So my conclusion? This is a sad but true look at society for what it really is. Why it’s like that? Who knows, hip hop culture, slavery, racism, stereo-types, self-perpetuating cycles of abuse, misguided views on masculinity, “THE MAN” who knows. All I know is black ladies, you may need to look at these facts, suck it up, and accept that a few generations from now everyone’s gonna be the same color of tan anyway so widen that net and find yourself a good man of any color.

Just sayin.

Here they go again. I don’t believe none of this. Who ever this is has a job to do and that is to get black men and women angry at each other. I can come up with a study myself and say that their is 3 black men for every one hundred women and post it on here. There has been constant articles that put the black women down. Why don’t they put something on here about white people or hispanic people. Are we the only race of people that they can pick on? Why don’t they post a pic of themselves like other bloggers or writers do? Think about it.

I used to say, ” I am going to stand by black men,” and “the right one will come around.” but lately I have started to loose faith in black men because black men have lost faith in me, “the black woman.” Its not enough black men to account for the large number of black women. There are too many beautiful, successful, well educated, healthy, sane, family oriented, loving, strong, forgiving, understanding, adventurous black women for black men to choose from. Unlike black men, black women are the least likely to date or marry outside her race due to her devotion to black men. Black men have some how ignored the struggle of black women and how devoted black women are to black men. Black women must open ourselves up to the possibility that being with a black man may not be what’s right for them. We must not give up our standards, but we must give into the possibility that Mr. Right may come in a shade other than brown.

I am a single, professional, childless, non felonly having Black male and I find it very hard to meet eligible black women with the same criteria.

You must be either joking or looking to pick up black women at stip joints, street corners or alley ways.

You have your priority mix up . You should want a Black Man that Knows the Lord and A Black Man that have excepted Christ in their life . You should want a Black Man that is nor of this World but of the Spiritul World . You first have to be a good Woman . There are plenty of good Black Men out there . Go to Church and God will definely give you one and you must know him in order to receive him . There are plenty woman out there that says they don’t need a Man . What do you think God put you here for. To be a servant to Man. Woman loving woman . And Men loving Men is a obomination in the Eyes of God . You you shall surely be put to Death. No exception . Haaaaaaaa The Lord Said and He Never LIED .

I totally agree with Michael. Black women tend to be more focused on image than on love. It’s always what someone can do for them and not what they have to offer. To many of us are unwilling to bend and step outside of their usual box. Oh, believe me I’m in no way saying to settle for what you can get just know what you want and when you receive it give it back. I personally love a blue collar brother I think that they appreciate hard work and tend to have more respect for what they work for. I’m not saying all brothers are like that just the ones that I have known. You give as good as you get, but we have to remember that a lot of us, brothers and sista’s alike are not true to themselves and therefore have issues being true to each other.

Everyone and I done mean E V e r y O N E attempting to breakdown and expostulate and or explain the relativity of this article is as ignorant as the day is long

This is a trick Topic and false focus designed to expand racial externalization

What “YOU” should be doing is blasting the author and the study as well as this site for having the audacious temerity to claim a prerogative to propose that any one on planet earth is good.

Keep focusing on BS while China and the IMF are rob’n America BLIND

Wow, here’s 1 of the 3 available black men!!! LOL

(Joke)

Look people, yes all statistics may not be accurate as that is the main issue with social research. However, do you really need to debate this when you have eyes that can see?

And in being a social care practitioner, one of the stats that may possibly be fairly accurate is that 66% of black children do not live with their father. Now, hold pn…..I am not even going to imply that these men are not good fathers as I am very sure many of them see their children. However, you have to question black relationships in regards to how we seem to get into that situation.

And the bottom line is, too many black men are running around getting their freak on with too many women, like some show to prove their masculinity. And as getting with a women is the goal, they do not care to get to know her, respect her or form any feelings. This is also true even if a black man meets a good black women. And likewise, too many women think that by sleeping with a man, he may wanna be with her. WRONG!. Then there are others who adopt a “I dont give a f*uk attitude”, try and get what they can get from a man and attempt to remain emotion-less in the process. And 9 month later, here comes the poor baby….born to two parents who don’t even know, respect or even like each other.

Once the baby is born and the man is forced to interact with the women he doesn’t really respect, he realises that he has gotten the wrong kind of women pregnant and starts demonising the mother as well as ALL other black women. And the mothers who dont feel any feeling or respect from the men, respond in hate and bitterness, using the child.

Now let me clarify, I am not saying that all black relationships are like this and that there are no good black men and good black women. But this kind of pattern I have described is way too common for my liking. And in my line of work , I have had to try and pick up the pieces with children who have developed major emotional issues from this.

Both black men and black women need to have higher standards for each other and higher standards for themselves! If everyone adopted higher standards and showed abit more respect for each other, not only would we have stronger two parent black families (which would lay the creation for a stronger community), but you know what?…..that black women would help that brother get a GED, that black man would network and help his black women get a better job…we would help each other in every way in life. We already have enemies, SO WHY DO WE INSIST ON BEING EACH OTHERS ENEMY SO MUCH?

Whether people want to stay deluded or just cry racism (and then jump into bed with somebody you dont know), unfortunitely there are too many black people, that in their daily practice, are encouraging this kind of research and these kind of articles.

Have more respect, goals and higher standards for yourself first, then chose a women who has high standards for herself (rather than just ass) and show some respect as opposite to looking for automatic criticism and bed-hopping. A women with high standards and respect will value you back. If she is not to your standard, do not then turn on all black women…find a women who meets your criteria. There are thousands of us out there…and waiting!

And for all those good black women waiting for Mr Right, maintain your standards and lets hope more black men start to focus on uplifting their own communities and challenging these stats through getting rid of bs ideology and realise they are doing the racist man’s work through confirming historical black stereotypes and black demonisation. And you triffling women need to do the same (you know who you are).

Props out to all my black people who can see whats really going on and are actively challenging these stats and stereotypes ever day! Lets hope we each find each other somehow and start making a difference to our communities and the status of black relationships.

From a single, educated black women with no children, who unfortunitely has dealt with so called good black men who sabatage the relationships due to their automatic demonisation of black women, even when they have a good black women (but then realise when its too late).

THANKS FOR READING MY LONG ASS RESPONCE! LOL

it is probably 3 good black women for every 100 guys.

SO are we to believe that all black women are good? They need to do another survey.

I would like to see just how many of these 100 black women would qualify as “good” according to the criteria of brothas that I know.. But then the story would be much less dramatic of course. :-)

Thank you for this article. I’m sure many intelligent and/or educated people in general, especially black American women understand this story completely. I have been feeling this way since 23, I’m now 29. Many sistas have also felt this way so why attack the person who writes this article? The truth is that it is BAD out here for American women of all colors who desire a “faithful”, loving, employed, healthy, and caring heterosexual male companion. However, it is MUCH, much more difficult for black American women who are typically terribly misjudged and underrepresented by the mass majority, including by many black men.

I’m so sick of sistas (who tend to envy and/or critique each other more than other women do) who never back each other up. Why do you chose to backstab each other and stand up for brothas who rarely stand up for us? While both sexes are from African ancestry, our struggles seem the same but are so different in many ways. Brothas never sympathize with how difficult it must be for us as black women with standards looking for meaningful relationships that produce healthy, structured families with normal, successful children. When we are insulted as a whole or told that we are ugly, who stands up for us? No one but us and maybe a very tiny percent of brothas. How many black athletes and entertainers invest in black scholarships, colleges, and neighborhoods, etc? How many wealthy successful black men marry dark skin black women or black women period? If most sistas are considered gold diggers we are truly losing miserably because the nonblack women are the ones who seem to stang (win) off brothas clearly by far. If we want to go there with entertainers, who got that expensive engagement ring from Nick Cannon? Who got more famous after a relationship with P.Diddy? Who gets credit for full lips? Who gets credit for having a big behind and dating black athletes?(not Lil’ Kim) Get mad if you want but it’s the truth. We also divide ourselves based on our own skin tone. There should be a study done on that also.

Why are sistas always told that we should act more like this or look more like that and then just maybe we will be more desired, luck up and get a man to love us. Heck, I can find Pooky around the corner all day long but who says he is decent or suitable for marriage. Anyways, my point is we don’t have to act like didley. HELLO! Has anyone seen the married women of many other cultures and races? That right there shuts down this crap about how sistas should improve ourselves in order to keep our men loving us. LOL. Which is a horrible stereotype. These other women are pretty, fat, short, tall, dark, light, dumb, highly intelligent, poor, middle class, nicely built, badly built, wonderful personalities, nightmarish attitudes, wealthy…etc. My point is they STILL have more options of marrying and re-marrying regardless of how they look, think, or how much they possess. SO, sistas it is not our fault. It is the way of this cruel, unfair world.

Back to this story, the study does not divide us nor does it teach sistas to be gold diggers. So wanting a man who makes over $30,000 is gold digging? Really, is it? Come on, sistas should consider teaching their daughters to have higher expectations out of men in general when it comes to dating, regardless of race. That is where a lot of the problems lie. It is due time that brothas start being more accountable and time for sistas consider changing their requirements of men and teaching their daughters to do the same. It is time for decent black fathers to remain in one household and be a part of rearing the children as well.

Now I really don’t have a problem with a brotha who has had a run in or two with the law depending on where he is at when I meet him and what his outcome to his past life has become. I understand and I have been a witness and a victim to racial discrimination at the hands of the police and in life in general. It is harder for blacks than it is for other minorities and we should not sympathize with them as much either because many hate us as much as racist whites do, even so, that’s another story. But, I still don’t knock this article.

This is just my 2 cents so don’t hate me for it.

one of the things i’ve noticed from the bros who are very stable and sucessful have said that they were over whelmed by the choices of black women as well…most felt no matter how quaulified they were it was not always enough,,,,it’s like when blacks men were entering the job market, he was deemed in most cases not good enough reguardless how much experience had…sounds like our women have once again picked up some others bad habits,,,i thank god i was fortunate to be living when sisters were not totally influenced by eurocentric way of life and kept it real

Not hating you for you two cents but I am just adding my three cents so we have a nickel together which is more than this bs article is worth. It’s funny how sisters try to flip the script and tend to blame everyone else for what is wrong with them. Although I make over 30k well over that I might add , that is not a gauge on how I would judge who I date. There are social workers , teachers and people in the medical field that make less money than truck driver and plumbers who got their ged’s and were trained in prison. Does that make them a better person ? No but if you judge people by the standards in this article then all is fair in love and war.

The problem with any sisters is they have more pride in the things that they can buy than who they are and that is passed down from generation to generation. EVERYBODY EXPLOITS THIS ABOUT BLACK WOMEN . Sympathy and Sex = $$$$ sales to the black women.

It’s not gold digging unless your bills outweight your superior income and you are looking at what he makes because it equals more for you.

As far as the dark skinned sisters – All you have to do is put a photo of Serena Williams , Toccara or even Kelly Rowland on BP and the brothas go crazy. It’s the sisters that place emphasis on light skin and curly hair – I have heard many sisters say that they would marry outside of their race so their baby would have a “good grade of hair” forgetting about the brain and how f**ked up that even sounds. I have seen sisters take money from a hard working “regular” brother and take care of a “pretty” man and don’t let a brother be a little chubby and dark – he gets about as much respect as a hooker in church. If a man doesn’t fit the bill in terms of looks for many sisters , then even if she has slept with an entire zip code , he better treat her like a virgin and not try and ” control her” with any boundaries because she is a strong sister until she gets that yellow or white d**k on the side. The light ones do the same thing , they really think you should worship them. Many sisters don’t even really talk to their men – I have seen whinos bums and drug addicts at clubs take home the most bousie sista all because they can dance or have game. And I have seen brothers playing basketball in the middle of the day go home to a profesional so called classy chick all for sex. And the same time I have brothers whom I went to school with that may not be perfect but can find a good women because they won’t put up with that type of shyt.

I have seen it with my own eyes and I know you have seen it too. So come off this bs article you know better than this girl.

I notice this about the so called middle class sisters also – many of them have had multiple marriages and abortions. Many of them get along with gay men better than straight men and have no problem indulging in cheating with another womans husband when they start to reach their late 30′s and beyond.

Yes us brothers have problems , but sisters have always been right up their with us. it’s 50/50 and any one who agrees with this article probably needs to seek medical attention

let’s see,, out of that 100??? up to 60 to 70 have kids….alot have 2 or more but sure of the percentage…alot of those have multipile mens babies and alot those who get lucky enough to get married don’t marry the fathers of those kids…last survey taken for overweight black women is half in most urban areas…as i was growing up during the late 50′s and 60′s i would hear from our enemies(the whites) how lasy. dumb shifless black men were all the time but what was more hurtftul was to hear it constantly from alot of black women while growng up..no matter what are dreams were as boys most were told we’ll never amount to anything or to some we’ll be like our no-good daddys..growing up hearing that so much i never trusted many of them and questioned when necessary…i learnid at an early age to tell the white man to kiss my ass and foun myself saying to many black women as well,,,,for the most part as far men in my age group we still had a far better pool to choose from and most did get married and are still married in most cases,,if i were younger i don’t think i would be married from what iam seeing in public today,,most are disrepectful to their elders , kids and in most cases thier husbands,,,,it was once said that it’s not that their are no good black men available , its that most decent men don’t care to be bothered by whats available and do’n't care to be seen in public with a rude , loud obnoxious women…also as quiet as it’s kept a great deal black men are now marrying other black from other places and not just white women….

Wow, black women get all the blame and no glory on here. I believe it has a lot to do with the imbalance of education when it comes to our men and women. Most of the guys who have posted have nothing but negative responses. However, none of them seem to be interested in finding solutions. Did they forget that even though a woman supports the foundation, a man is suppose to lead…in the right direction might I add. It’s like all most of em know how to do is be offended because the truth passes completely over their heads.

Not one brotha has mentioned how he is married (to a sista), employed, and raising his own kids as a family.

If you are A-1 on your game and coming correct, it will find its way back to you for sure. It seems like a lot of guys just fell for the nice body, got played, then turned bitter against all sistas. Even a blind person can see how imbalanced and unfair the options are for black women. No one is blaming anybody. I clearly stated that sistas should step their game up and teach their daughters to have higher expectations in life and when seeking a mate. I’d also like to add how young men need to be taught not only to respect their mothers but women in general as well. I’m tired of the sorry excuse that it is ok to mistreat a woman because she appears to be or is a h*, etc. The same guy who makes this ignorant excuse is usually the guy who slept with her. Why didn’t you keep your p***s to yourself and hold out for “one” of the many good, decent black women out here, who would rather die lonely than date outside their race (not including myself bcuz race does not matter to me). The same sistas who stick by brothas who run thru them like a herd of cattle, fall in love with this one for a few months, wash off and quickly move on to the next one later on. We all know this one is true. Yea, some women may get down like that also but not as much as men. Maybe too many brothas just prefer those kind of women that tend to be that way. I don’t know and really don’t care.

I can only speak for myself and what I have observed on many occasions. I don’t think education makes a man better but it is nice to be able to hold an intellectual conversation sometimes. However, brothas who tend to have the same thing that most professional sistas acc**alate with ease, quickly realize how easy it is for them to h* around. Some of them prey on professional sistas who believe in marriage and want to rear kids the right way. They tend to think that they are God’s gift to women and are very picky when it comes to women whom they date 2 or 3 at a time.

So, I guess because being called a “baby mama” is just as much as an insult to me as being called a “b***h”, I think I’m white, lol. I guess because I think young black women should stop opening their legs for a guy who only wants to bring a bag of grass or alcohol over in his car with rims, I also think I’m white. I also think so because I think sistas should stop hating on the next sista or getting mad at the other chic when her man went out hoing, caused all the drama which led her to the clinic (for a STD and/or abortion). Yep, darn that eurocentric school teacher. I’m gonna find her and sue her right today. I guess I’m just crazy and insane for being annoyed by bm who proudly tell people in public things like, “I take care of my kids.” Is this something to brag about? Hmm, I never hear other races of men utter these words. It is actually quite normal for a man to “take care” of his offspring. “She got pregnant from me on purpose. Now, that b***h done filed child support on me.” You could have kept your p***s to yourself or made sure you were protected. The worst one is, “Me and my baby mama are good friends now for the sake of the baby.” Yea boo, forget a meaningful relationship that leads to marriage, good stable employment, a nice home, then kids. Oh no, lets just screw, make a baby, then through up deuces in the club whenever we see each other.

On a serious note, if all of this is bs then why is it that black American women (you know, the ones who are known for sticking to their race of men when dating/mating) have the highest STD rates in the US. How is that possible when we make up such a small percentage here? Yep, I guess that’s all our faults too, we just produce those nasty STDs on our own. WRONG! I’m so tired of idiotic people telling black women how they should know better than to mess with this guy or that guy. We are women and we have needs to. What heterosexual, healthy, attractive women wants to sit around and be asexual for the rest of her life? While sistas should be making these cats strap up and stop having babies from worthless men. Brothas should definitely stop raw d***ing and making babies out of lust as well and become self worthy. How about having more than just a sex drive and the goal of conquering the next kitty cat that comes along? How about looking for more out of life than fresh cologne, new shoes, and rims on your ride..if you’re over 25?

I observe and listen to how some, not all women of other races meet men in grocery stores, around town, and especially at work. They may date for a long while then end up married. This is not the norm for us. I have had many brothas step to me or seen them with other women at work, they’re only interested in “friends with benefits” nothing more, nothing less. These are not the thugs either, they are the educated ones working on Master and Phds. Then if I’m not hit on by the single brotha out for noncommital nut then it’s either the grandpa who qucikly lets me know he gets a check each month or the married brotha looking for some strange. So, it really does suck for most sistas, especially if you ask questions and pay attention to the bs games that the typical guy plays.

As for skin tone only being an issue between us sistas, LOL. Again, wow, anyone who has not noticed this should consider not only reading more but getting out of that same area of town he/she is always hanging in. Regardless, I luv my brown skin and natural hair.

I’m not asking for more than what I am. Single, attractive, educated, childless, fun, employed, etc..I mean, one fella posted that a sista shouldn’t be worried about looks, HA, why not when that’s usually all a man cares about. Besides, why should I or any sista settle for someone that their not attracted to mentally/physically that only equals disaster. I feel like I’m on some deep stuff while I’m only getting lame, fictional points in return. I assure you that if most sistas are out for money from yall they ain’t gonna get much anyway, so why keep harping on that nonsense. Some women evolve continuously and get plastic surgery just to keep the rich men in reach. We see them on TV and in movies all the time. But again, I guess no one wants to admit that on here. I can only speak for myself. I preferred the hard working blue collar brotha that was 240 and up all day long. Now what? I was mistreated but I know, I know, because I’m a black woman, it was my fault and I should’ve known better. I didn’t care about how much money a man had either. SMH.

“Not one brotha has mentioned how he is married (to a sista), employed, and raising his own kids as a family.”

*raises hand*

I suspect that like most Dating sites, the one that did this study is owned by White people. I also find it depressing that in this age black people lap up every trashy bit of propaganda and disinfo distributed about you like cats lapping up arsenic out of a bowl with YOUR NAME ON IT.. you then go on to waste inordinate amounts of energy squabbling and pointing the finger at each other respectively while the WHITE PEOPLE WHO RUN THE PLANTATIONS called “prisons, ” the corrupt NON-JUSTICE SYSTEM that takes your sons and husbands away, and the crooked govt. that has been your ENEMY since your ancestors were dragged over here laugh their concave a$$3s off at your simplicity and inability to see that YOU ARE AT WAR and the White Supremacists are WINNING AGAINST YOU because you are on a football field swinging a tennis racket and wonder why you are GETTING NOWHERE!! WAKE UP!! Recognize the propaganda strategy in all all these STUPID articles pitting black males and females against each other and working to make black females feel unwanted and unworthy.. The end goal is to push you into the beds of White men ANWAY so that you stop producing BLACK BABIES.. That’s an old plan that was published in the NY Times 101 years ago.. Google “The Elmination of the Negro” on Scribd AND READ IT FOR YOURSELF!

Silly article. It assumes many or even black women don’t have problems. What about creating a list of black women who don’t have children before marriage. Or black women with a Bachelors degree. Or black women who aren’t in debt. This supposed ” no good single black men thing” is one sided.

the only way to balance this ratio is to require black women to fulfill the same criteria.

also, as someone who has been to JAIL and NOT PRISON, i’d think that there need to be a distinction drawn here. someone can go to jail for a speeding ticket while one serves time in prison after being convicted of an offense.

DAMN, i’m reading comments here and the more i read, the more i see that it seems we equate success with making money. that’s a SAD commentary on the degree to which our minds have been colonized. success, for those of you who obviously don’t have it , or know what it is, is the degree to which one can accomplish their personal goals on his or her OWN TERMS. for some folks success requires more money than others. but KNOWING YOURSELF, in order to know which goals are REALLY IMPORTANT is the first step in becoming successful.

seems there’s a LOT of folks here that haven’t taken that first step. hence the confusion of thinking that getting money is either the first, or the essential, step in achieving success.

sista, your comments are well thought and heartfelt.

there’s no way i can deny the validity of your experience, nor would i either want, or need, to.

nevertheless, like many sistas’ observations, yours seems to come from a self-centered place.

the world doesn’t exist to give us what we want. life is not a shopping spree, though capitalist America wants us to perceive it that way. as a life-long participant in and student of OUR struggle, the most important lesson i’ve learned is from Malcolm X. it is that the most important thing one can do is to try understand one’s place in history. at this point in our history, if we continue to focus on ourselves as individuals, without taking into account our collective condition and experience, we will never understand the bases of functional relationships, and we will never progress from this condition.

The starting stats are for all Americans, not specifically black. From that flawed start, the number keeps dropping, even though it isn’t necessarily applicable. The men without a job may be the same men with children and/or marrying inter-racially, so why are they deducted from the whole twice? Furthermore, this is comparing apples to oranges. How many of the 100 black women are single, attractive, in shape, successful, educated, and childless? The only interesting comparison is how many so-called “good” black men there are for every “good” black woman.

Why are so many blk men insecure on here?? it seems like everytime there’s an article bashing you, you fellaz try to flip it around on black women, as if thats a mature valid response filled with substance. You men that sprew hate and criticism are no better than the women you attack. All you do is focus on the “Negative, Stereotypes and Try to reverse the blame…, you sound bitter, imature, and quite sad. And you dating out your race doesnt make me want to “step up my game”, so I wish some you will quit with that one. Alot of black women are happy you angry self-hateful behinds are dating out your race. ..believe me. I feel sorry for your mates, some of you really sound worse than the “nagging” blk woman and yes you remind me of a female with your constant one-sided b!tching. I usually ignore internet geeks, but some of you really sound ridiculous… you’re making yourself look bad not me.

PLEASE….. THE WORLD..AND CERTAINLY BLACK MEN DONT REVOLVE AROUND YOU …

I THINK YALL BLACK WOMEN NEED TO GET YOUR S**T STR8T,,,,, STOP DESTROYING THE BLACK MAN WITH THE HELP OF WHITEY . …WE DONT WANT YOU EITHER….

It has been proven over and over again that black women don’t want a good man. They want a thug, a rapper, a pretty boy who looks better than they do, a walking ATM and anything but a good man.

Why complain ?

This made me laugh. For one, because many of these stats that they present overlap…so they shouldn’t be counted twice. Ex: A man who has been in jail has a high chance of being unemployed and a high chance of not graduating high school. All the same person, yet counted multiple times in order to “deduct” from the so called good black man count.

and how many of these 100 women are considered desirable by black men?

The propaganda continues?

Sooo, this speaks to 100 available Black women, but how many out of these 100 are qualified themselves is the question!

terrible article. statistically and mathematically flawed. For example, black men making over 30k, a big slice of that probably overlaps with those that went to prison and have been already eliminated from the 100.

..”Self centered”….”Like many sistas observations”…
How ignorant of you to assume such a thing? If I am affected by a tornado that has destroyed my home and town, am I selfish because I describe what I witnessed in the aftermath or observed the reactions of the people around me and told someone about them?

While politics matter in this world, my concern is about living right, and understanding the highest authority in charge. God. (Don’t hate me for being a believer)

I also get fed up with hearing about the wm did this and that. First off, I think it’s crazy that most bm complain about this but are so open to date and/or worship the skin of ww. (Don’t get me wrong I don’t have anything against I/R dating/mating.) Hello, it was Tim and Becky who stood by watching that brotha being hanged from a tree. The klan is made heavily of men and women. But many bm seem to turn a deaf ear and blind eye to that. My point is also that even though we have definitely been oppressed by the masses, WE ALLOWED IT. If only blacks would find more interest in researching our history and taking pride in our culture, we’d be a force to be wrecking with. Just observe countries with other races as leaders who did not allow whites to intervene. In school, we were taught these countries were evil and defiant. Like any country, they may have their many flaws but if you look a little deeper they’re only considered evil or enemies to our country because they wouldn’t let those wfolks come in and take over. Now look at Africa, the motherland. Why are the true natives suffering in that country? They are even discriminated against in their own land. What is a black African, lol? That’s insane to me. Foreign scientist come in and find riches with the help from the people of the land and become famous and wealthy from their discoveries while the natives go to war against each other. They are too busy killing other men and raping the children and women, fighting over dirt, while the wm/ww get filthy rich off their land. Then many(not all) of them come over here, turn their nose up at black Americans, and kiss the wm’s ass. That oughta tell many, many people that our race needs some unconditional healing.

It is selfish of you to make judgements about me based on a post response to the topic at hand. Hope you are also aware that Malcolm X was not the only leader from the past that could teach many a thing a two about life experiences. For one, just look at how and who murdered him. We are not our brother’s keeper. Something that seems to stem from our African genes like no other. Bm prove this all day long and you can’t deny that is what this issue has come from. However, that is yet another topic.

I am entitled to my opinion and nor your opinion or mine is writing in stone. I believe the only thing ever written in stone was the 10 commandments, if you really wanna know what’s up.

Self centered…I am not at all. What I am is tired of the lowdown men outnumbering the decent…not good or what this article outlines as good but again decent black men who believe in monogamy, raising children in ONE family, and marriage through love not for the big booty or for financial gain because they looking to live off a successful sista.

It is quite apparent that blacks, like other races have their issues. However, ours are worse and I am passionate about it because I’m black. If there isn’t anyone to lead(strong men and women to support them) then we will never get anyway. Who leads our race unlike others? Women, because the men are no where to be found or acting in the wrong position when they are around. For example, every time a black woman speaks up about s**t similar to this, here come bm bickering, nagging, and name calling like little children. Most of the time they are actually validating everything the bw is complaining about and don’t even realize it. That, in my opinion and what appears to be clear leads to havoc. For so many different sistas to continuously say the SAME thing, it is so not about being self centered, there is a major problem at hand.

Now, this article maybe flawed and insulting, lets not focus on that for a minute. Instead lets focus on how there IS really a deep rooted problem with the healthy relationship between bm and bw in general. I think many bm know there is a problem but they’d rather bw continue to suffer in silence because they aren’t feeling the hurt and insults like we are from within our own race. They are actually sitting back benefiting from how dedicated most bw are to tolerating bs off bm. Oh yea, sistas claim they ain’t putting up with much but a lot of them are and they just deal with it, silently.

If there is not a problem then why is it the more successful a bw is the less likely she is to be married? I know plenty of uneducated bw who are married to ignorant ass, geto men (I don’t knock em for that) versus successful ones? Lets take a look at entertainers like Oprah or Whoopi. You can’t tell me that these women wouldn’t enjoy marriage to a bm. But the black community considers them ugly. The world already does not accept black features on bw and brown skin is considered a downer from the east to the west of this world. So now they are wealthy and ugly. The only man that’s most likely going to be after one of them is trying to use them for what they have. Now my point is not about the looks but how frustrating it must be as a heterosexual woman to suffer in silence about her desire to have not a hit and run but a meaningful relationship with a “compatible partner”.

For so many individual bw to be addressing the same thing. I’m talking about before the white media got a hold of topics like this too. This s**t has been going on. Yes, there are excellent men and women out here no doubt but the bad outnumber the good.

Ok, I see some people are not really reading and opening their mind to what is being said and want to play the defensive “what about you though?” game. So I’ll play:

Im a single women
Straight and wants a black man
Has not been to jail or got any criminal record
Has a BSc and MA degree and going for a PhD next year
Is a university lecturer
Is making decent money
Stays in shape (and its up to you to rate my looks
And does not have any children

So do I qualify as a good black woman?

But yet, despite shouting “there are no good women”, if a women like me comes along, half of you will STILL NOT BE SATISFIED. In fact, you will constantly try and look for faults and try and see if you can find something that will justify the demonised ideology you have of black women, and this is even more so if you have already had a child with a psychologically unstable tramp (your choice).

I love black men and know that good black men do exist but damn, I wish some of you would push this mentality to the side, alter what you are looking for (a brain, achievements, aspirations etc rather than a fat ass) and judge a women on what she presents instead of being pre-occupied with your ex, what your boys say and all the other media outlets which activately push out negative images of black women.

I already have to deal with others who try to discriminate, stereotype and bring me down. Do I have to have my own black men doing this to me as well??????

Both black men and black women need to wake up and see that this ideology mixed with defensiveness and denial will get us nowhere.

RECOMMENDATION: Please read Paul Burrell’s (2010) “Brainwashed – The Myth of Black inferiority”. Just finished reading it and is excellent, especially in regards to these issues. And hopefully, it may help you recognise how you too have absorbed too much brainwashed ideology. And if you already know the bigger picture, its nice to know a book like this is out there. You can get it on Amazon.

(Sorry but thats the lecturer coming out of me…..knowledge is power!)

can I say serious “myth”

ALL OF THIS IS OVERLOOKED OF COURSE IF THE BROTHAS’ SCORING POINTS IN THE NBA, NFL OR MLB. HOW IGNORANT IS THIS? NOT FOR ANY OTHER RACE. JUST GO WHITE AND FALL INTO HELL WITH THOSE THAT ARE GOING THERE. WHO CARES, BYE.

In view of the “QUALITY” of the Black male a Black female has to deal with in America, I can understand why many are reluctant to make a long term emotional commitment. Although there are many Black males that could be considered bonified “SCRUBS”, many females expectations concerning the Black male are unrealistic. I am not suggesting that females start “SETTLING” regarding “LOVE AND ROMANCE”, but when it comes to finding a qualified Black male, she may be required to negotiate. Institutionalized Racism has taken a mental, emotional and spiritual toll on the Black male, and although no “REAL MAN” wants a females “SYMPATHY”, the average Black male could sure use some “EMPATHY!” There is plenty of information doc**enting the character flaws of Black males, but not much attention is being payed to the negative psychological and spiritual effect racism, unemployment, the lack of education and poverty are having on the Black female psyche. Frankly, “THIS RACE WAR” is essentially between the Black and White male,and our female counterparts are just caught in the crossfire. White America gives us all these definitions of “MANHOOD AND SUCCESS”, but then works overtime in the attempt to make sure the Black males never resembles any of the established ideals. In my humble opinion, unless the Black race “REDEFINES” itself, they will always come away from an encounter with White People feeling inanadequate. In my humble opinion: “MOST BLACK MALES AND FEMALES IN THIS SOCIETY ARE DAMAGED GOODS!” I wish you well in the search for someone to “LOVE, RESPECT AND APPRECIATE YOU!” So sincere, Michael Sydney Perkins

Brother, I respect your honest opinion on this subject, but as far as I am concern, my dating days are over… After my divorce and a failed relationship some years there after, I am convinced my sisters have no respect for their brothers… If we don’t have certain things (money, cars and etc..), they look for it elsewhere, ideally, in the arms of our drug dealing brothers or some rich celebrity type who desires the jump off kind of underground type who can afford them the lifestyle they seek…

Get the f*ck out of here. All the good black men are at the same place as the good black women. Post statistics on black women if you are going to write an article like this. I’ll bet the “eligible single black woman” percentage will be comparable. This is the pot calling the kettle black to the extreme. Also, I have seen these “educated” black women push “good” black men to the side because of them not living up to a certain stereotype so often it is not even funny. Furthermore, everyone should learn to speak and write their mother tongue correctly. STOP WITH THE WRITTEN SLANG AT LEAST, YOU DESTROY YOUR CREDIBILITY AND PUT YOURSELF IN THE SAME CATEGORY AS THE “IGNORANT BROTHAZ” THAT I’M SURE YOU CLAIM TO BE SO UNLIKE.

Comments like this is why most Sistas (or women…at that matter) aint making it to the altar…

I concur.
There’s no doubt that we Black men are largely a disappointment to our illustrious sisters.

It’s unfortunate that instead of studies like these galvanizing us into actions for positive change, some of us prefer to chase shadows castigating messenger.

If Black America wasn’t so obviously sick, may be social scientists would expend so much time & resources studying us with a view to identifying and rectifying our problems.

The problem with this article is it fails to show all the statistics other side. He mentions the ratio of gay men vs gay women and black men who marry out vs black women. But what about the other stats? Who said all black women fit the criteria either? I wonder how many black women make $30,000 or less? How many single black women have multiple kids? How many single black women are overweight or obese? And I guarantee you that in this bad economy its not just allot of black men laid off or out of work.

I cannot fathom why wanting someone who meet these criteria makes a woman a gold digger or a bad person. What makes a woman a hypocrite is not meeting the criteria herself. I personally meet each one of these except I’m overweight. With that said, black people have gotten away from the basics. A woman should look for a man who is capable of taking on a family. It doesn’t mean he needs to be rich or the sole breadwinner, but he needs to be able to significantly contribute financially. So what is wrong with that? That use to be the standard back in the day.

Brother talk about sisters not understanding our roles in a relationship, but then men complain when we expect them to fulfill theirs. I’m confused by this attitude. Whether a man has been to jail or has children out of wedlock says something about his values and choices. He may have changed and has turned his life around. He may be an excellent and active father, but these are things that need to be evaluated on a case by case basis. Having a criminal record could interfere with a man’s ability to find gainful employment. It may not bode well when comes to his current morals and values. Is a woman wrong for factoring that into the equation?

It is important to find someone that you have things in common with. Although I have a college degree, I personally don’t require a man to have a college degree, but I need someone who is highly intelligent and values lifelong learning and expanding his horizons. I tried it and it hasn’t worked for.

The problem that I have with this study is that it breaks down the numbers of “good men” but it doesn’t say how many women fall into that category based on the same criteria. I hear too many women talking about what they want but they fall short themselves. It would be interesting to compare apples to apples.

For you gentlemen who get dinged because you are not making a living wage, or you have criminal background or whatever the case may be, stop bashing black women for wanting what every other woman of every other race wants. There is nothing wrong with that. But because our community is in crisis, and so many of our men have lost their way, we want to demonize women for looking for what women look for. We don’t knock you for looking for a woman with a big butt or who is cute or a woman who can cook and has good wife and mother potential. That doesn’t make a man a pervert or a male chauvinist.

To my sisters, figure out what is essential to you when it comes to meeting someone. Know what your deal breakers are. If it is not one of those things, then allow yourself to be open to new possibilities.

Here is what I want from a woman:

1) a good job and has good credit and can pay her own bills and has a budget
2) no kids.
3) a degree
4) has a nice body and look good
5) has a clean criminal record
6) straight

the problem is black women get a good black man and treat him like crap. you guys live in a fairy tale world. get a grip.
yall get mad when a BM date/marries a White woman and call him weak but yall have a parade when a BW marries a White man. really?
maybe he married the WW because she was rite for him. congrats dude get happiness where you can find it. If you cant find a good man maybe you need to look at yourself and stop blaming everyone else

This article is bunk and I hope it gets buried somewhere in cyberspace.

100 to 3? How many of those women aren’t lesbian? How many of them are attractive and not obese? How many of them are coming to the table with no child from previous relationships? BS I tell you…these women are not infallible.

It is my view that black women need to fight for their ‘good’ and ‘decent’ black men – yes, even when they make mistakes, get things wrong or say the wrong things!!

As a hard working man, women need to realise that such men who aim high and who are decent, are also proud people.

Life is meant to have challenges – the storm-filled experiences that we have to confront in order to strengthen our ideals, and the relationships we hold so dearly to our hearts.

When the frustrations grew and the stress mounted, my girlfriend ran behind her Mum – or should I say ‘mommy.’ She did not confront me with her emotions, she just stopped talking to me. All of this for a couple who had a ‘meeting of minds’ when we met – a great woman… one I had been searching for all my life. Hmmm… you never really get to know someone – even someone who you hoped to spend the rest of your life with, until the challenges start and grow.

I had no idea that she was a Child inside a woman’s body – one who hates confrontation to such a degree that it was a humilation to me when the relationship ended.

What a waste!

Women who seek good and decent black men should also remind themselves that ‘ if they are not prepared to fight for what is good and decent, maybe… just maybe they deserve the crap that they settle for.

“No one has ever been happy or content by settling for something or somebody because it’s easy or goes unchallenged.’ Women have a lot to learn. We see the mistakes plainly in our communities – breakdown of relationships, the lost father-figure… all because their is not a will to communicate… or this ‘meeting of minds’ whereby a foundation could be the basis for further development in that relationship.

Yes, the ‘Good Man’ – ‘Decent Man’ is one who is Proud – never happy when he makes mistakes or loses his way. But, he is real, deep and passionate… more importantly, he is Genuine.

So, black women… as I sit here now aiming to socialise more in my life – seeking a wife-to-be, please ask yourself ‘what is it you value in a man?’ ‘What qualities can a man has that can penetrate the boudaries of both your mind and heart?’ Then ask yourself, ‘how much are you really prepared to fight for this – even when it may be challenging and not always easy?’