@ STEPHANIE ROBINSON SPEAKS and NEWSONE-You did a story on this a few months back and in that report YOU claim more BLACKS was getting MARRIED. Now your coming back to TAKE that CREDIT away from the BLACKS ONLY TO OUTLINE IT WITH THE WHITE RACE. Ya’ll are some CONFUSED DRAMA QUEENS when it COME TO YOUR TRUE FACTS AND REPORTS ON THE BLACK RACE IT REALLY SHOW YA’LL LACK COMMON SENSE AND KNOWLEDGE DEALING WITH YOUR REPORTS OF BLACK ISSUE. You claim this in you statement

(There appears to be a real trend toward non-commitment going on within the black community. The 2009 census showed that 42 percent of black adults reaching their 40s had never married as compared to 23.6 percent of whites. It was also revealed that African Americans are more likely than other ethnic groups to divorce and have children out of wedlock.

Now, of course, there are a number of complex reasons behind these statistics that we could talk about for years to come. They include the legacy of slavery, black male incarceration, high unemployment, and the changing attitudes toward matrimony.)

This part of your statement has nothing to do with being married

(the legacy of slavery, black male incarceration, high unemployment, and the changing attitudes toward matrimony)

It has been PROVEN alot of (BLACK)people has GOTTEN MARRIED while their husband was INCARCERATION,UNEMPLOYMED,and ALOT OF MARRIAGE TOOK BLACK DOING SLAVERY and OUT LASTED SLAVERY ITSELF. The CENSUS FORM was just so that the government COULD give out MORE FALSE REPORTS ON THE BLACK RACE. So please STOP A$$UMING these REPORTS are TRUE and REPORTING THEM BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT.(JMOARTYT)

I am uplifting to see more black on black marriage. It is so beautiful.

I do not know where this person get’s her stats from, but as usual, another n****r apologist, she is mistaken. Black men and women, with options, are able to have a broad dating pool, meaning and giving them more choices. Much to our chagrin my sister married white, been married for 20 years now, kid in Yale and another one at West Point, not saying she could not have accomplished this with a Black man, but she found happiness with a white man. I am no longer looking to be married, tried it out for 10 yrs. and was miserable, we produced two world class kids, but she made a better GF and lover then a wife, but she is a hell of a mom. I date everyone but women with tats, who smoke, have ugly feet, or a thickness issue, oh yeah, first mention of the word “babies mama or daddy s**t” the date is terminated, but I usually catch that during the screening process. I know plenty of black marrying one another and know a lot of interracial marriages, what ever makes them happy!!!!

I just wish more positive things would be said about our community . I wish people were courageous enough to form a more possitive outlook about our people . Its easy to be negative and have no confidence nor hope in what the future brings .

Ill throw in some positive in here,,,LOL,,,

My godmother’s daughter(my god-sister) is getting married in a few months, their both black,,,shes 33 and shes a Doctor!!!

Oh wait,,,i got another,,,lol,,,my co workers mother n law just got married 2 weeks ago,,,shes 70,,but hey she still got married,,,LOL

LEGAL WEDDING is dying and i cant wait for it to rest in peace as well….its a tradition that the egyptians were the first civilization to make LEGAL…not all of us are egyptians. we should define our own civilization and come up with our own alternative due to the fact its costing us so much torment…..

If we can get awas from the superficial looks(Like Halle or Denzi), or the WEALTH of a person, then WE all can get with the person who attract us and grow together, fall in love/marry as one just like what my forefather/mother did 200 years ago…….

CAROLINAGIRLSRDABEST
Aug. 30th, 2010
at 12:37 pm
“@ STEPHANIE ROBINSON SPEAKS and NEWSONE-You did a story on this a few months back and in that report YOU claim more BLACKS was getting MARRIED. Now your coming back to TAKE that CREDIT away from the BLACKS ONLY TO OUTLINE IT WITH THE WHITE RACE. Ya’ll are some CONFUSED DRAMA QUEENS when it COME TO YOUR TRUE FACTS AND REPORTS ON THE BLACK RACE IT REALLY SHOW YA’LL LACK COMMON SENSE AND KNOWLEDGE DEALING WITH YOUR REPORTS OF BLACK ISSUE. ”

We bump heads A LOT, but I had to give you much credit here…This paragraph is my thought EXACTLY! Kudos….

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How did blacks go from
10% illegitimacy rate in 1920
19% illegitimacy rate in 1940
22% illegitimacy rate in 1960
70% illegitimacy rate Today (40% increase)

Some argue that the state of the black family is the result of the legacy of slavery, discrimination and poverty. Not true. Come on people. LOOK AT THE PERIOD OF TIME WHEN THE PERCENTAGES INCREASED. Stop lying to yourselves. This is a direct effect of the progressives new familial structure that progressives have been pushing after they took over the civil rights movement in the late 1960′s. The civil rights movement is now the gay and lesbian, illegal immigration, prisoners rights, welfare, union, Marxist, socialist rights…. movement. They said the man is not needed and pushed the black man out of the home through socialist programs ie welfarce and used the civil rights leaders and black academia to deliver the message. The common black folk have bought into it and now the black community is drowning because of it. Have some progressive programs been good for the black community? Yes Affirmative Action and similar programs helping those trying to help themselves. Have there also been some progressive programs that have been disastrous to the black community? And the answer is, also, Yes.

Don’t listen to me. Do your own research. You will find and come to the conclusion which I have. Everything conservative is not bad and everything liberal is not good. It is impossible for a community any community to progress with 70% illegitimacy. It has never been done in the history of civilization. The liberals know this but they tell you it’s because of lack of funds, lack of police, lack of teachers, lack of everything except black men in the home.Which is the actual and essentially only cause. The black community can progress in the current social environment with two parent homes in-spite of the progressives telling us we can’t. Their message no longer rings true. The black community must reject the socialist policies of the progressive liberals who want to maintain the status quo. A black race of beggars; Powerless, one temporary senator….. with one party ignoring us and the other party treating us like children. It’s all the same. A complete lack of respect, dependency and hopelessness.

I think people should not get married for the wrong reasons, such as what jazzwatch stated, superficial characteristics, because that could often end in divorce. We owe it to ourselves to show this country, our community, our family, and friends that black marriages work and could last long just as well as any other race’s marriage. If you divorce someone because they are unemployed, (maybe due to discrimination or other various reasons, studies has been done that show that a white male convict would get hired over a black male graduate who has never been to jail) then you never loved that person in the first place. It takes a strong individual to stand behind their mate or spouse and support them while they are striving to get to the top. I believe First Lady Michelle Obama supported the President while he was still in law school and she was already done.

Like Carolinagirl was saying, this all could be false information as I know plenty of black couples who are married today, but I feel that they media just does not show them as much and it’s almost like the don’t exist. They rather talk about black couples breaking up, who cheated on who, or how many kids someone had out of wedlock, but you never hear about the archetypes of Will & Jada Smith in our community or entertainment for that matter.

So we owe it to ourselves and our ancestors whom scarified their lives, to show that good black marriages can and do exist in today’s society. Black people have been getting the rap on everything for years and years, so to discredit and abandon your own people over superficial things or false information is not right. We need to continue to set good examples for generations to come.

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Love, mutual attraction of the man and woman, being freaky, and combined income should be the ingrediants for a long lasting mariage…..everything else would be considered CONTAMINATION………

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Nodoubt10, You are correct. I know of MANY black couples who are in fact married. In all actuality, IR couples numbers are much smaller than we think. It’s only so HUGE because that is what WHITE media perpetuates among blacks. They want us to think that we have all turned our backs on each other and ran head first, eyes closed, into white arms…So not true….I shall continue to take my example from my parents, grandparents, many aunts,uncles,cousins, friends etc who are happily married black couples…..

Inter-cultural married couples make up less than 7% for black married males. People talk inter-cultural nonsense & propoganda usually to cover up for their own feelings of bitterness, delusions with relationships etc Funny, you go to a comedy night, the room is full of black couples but that one bitter person will see ONE inter-cultural couple and all of a sudden brothas are running off with (insert culture here). Sheer stupidity.

My former boss just announced his marriage today. It’s beautiful to see people happy. But marriage is not for everyone. Seeing as I don’t believe in religion, and I don’t want any further children (one 6 year old son) and I don’t enjoy being in long-term/live-in relationships marriage is not the choice of me. If I was to consider marriage it would have to be with someone educated like myself, who doesn’t want children like myself, and who pretty much is interested in their career and having travel adventures during their spare time, like me. Mortgage, debts, multiple kids, constant obligations? Not my cup of tea. Mx

What I feel about dating today:

“Clowns to the left of me,Jokers to the right, here I am,Stuck in the middle with you.”-Stealers Wheel

Having read hundreds of threads and listening to countless number of discussions regarding relationships, I never cease to be amazed at the level of mental discord and emotional chaos befuttling the minds of those who profess the desire to marry. How is it that some will take the efforts to obtain the education and knowledge necessary for their chosen profession, refuse to prepare themselves for their roles as husband or wife?

How you live your life as a single individual will certainly dictate the manner by which you will conduct yourself in a committed relationship or marriage. How does a person who has “dated” scores, hundreds or sometimes thousands of people believe they are prime marriage material? What is “special” about someone that anyone can have as easy as pulling an item off the clearance rack at Ross or the .99 cent store?

A person damn near has to hold a double Masters degree in Sociology & Psychology to sit down and have a cup of coffee with a member of the opposite sex today. With so many failed marriages and those who have been in and out of more relationships than there are grains of sand on a beach, it comes at no surprise that the gaps which divide continue to widen.

You have millions of men and women who ACTUALLY BELIEVE they are fit to be someones husband/wife, but practice behaviors not conducive to increasing the chances of long term success. “I WANT A HONEST MAN, SOMEBODY I CAN TALK TO, SOMEBODY WHO WILL NOT LIE OR CHEAT.” But the person who has all of these “wants” has a multitude of “friends”, FWBs on the side that are kept in the shadows when the so called “open & honest” discussions take place occuring during dating phase. As with most things today, words and definitions have been hijacked, contorted and distorted to cover or obfuscate the truth of the manner & nature by which one conducts themselves.

As you begin to peel the onion back on the issues that effect interpersonal relationships, you will find one or more of these cancers present within the individual: False pride, false sense of entitlement, false sense of intellectual superiority, lack of emotional integrity, lack of genuine honesty, lack of integrity and deep self delusion. It takes a great deal of self awareness, emotional integrity as well as a keen sense of ones surroundings not to succ**b and fall into the pit of believing that ones sheet doesnt stink when everyone elses does.

I tend to ask very direct and pointed questions of women I date, and the moment they begin to start stut stut stuttering like Joe or become evasive, I rise and fly. I dont do character flaws, especially those dealing with trust, truth, loyalty, integrity, honesty and righteousness. If you do not possess them, dont have a snowflakes chance on a electric skillet getting or keeping company with the kid El Cid.

Racking up sexual body counts of unbelievable amounts and becoming a static energy generator for excedrin migrain moments seems to be quite prevalent among many in the dating pool today.

Credibility and respect are two very difficult things to obtain, but so very easy to lose…especially from me. For those with the MILE HIGH lists of MAKE A WISH, standards & requirements, better hold on to them tight. As you may be holding to them for the rest of your life and they make for a MIGHTY COLD bed partner…especially in the middle of the night.

“what a FOOL believes
(S)HE sees no wise (WO)MAN has the POWER TO REASON away
what seems to be is always better than nothing
and nothing at all…” Micheal MacDonald

how many people responding to this blog are even married????? I AM! Thats 1 lets count and then share some opinions from non single folks. Oh and by the way my black parents have been married for 43yrs, and my black wife and I are on our 1st year…DAMN tired of single folks talking about marriage. Is the author of this even married?

@CAROLINAGIRLSRDABEST
Good points! But I think people forget that marriage, in GENERAL, in the USA, is on the decline. When you have advertisement with Ashley Madison, promoting leaving your spouse for another, that’s when you know that it’s all downhill, from here. That type of stuff is aimed at white folk, in polite society.

Good article, but like the writer of this article stated herself, the issue with marriage is complex as to why it is in the state it is in. First of all, our margin of error is going to be different than that of whites. So, to compare, especially given the reality of the difference in social historical experience, it’s going to be different. We also forget that the illegitimacy rate for Whites is at 30% or so now. So, the decline in marriage is crossing other races as well. Same with divorce, which is hardly much better for whites.

Then, we have to look at things like the lack of confidence in marriage among the general population, the parents might be in a “common law” or cohabitation relationship where they live together but aren’t married, both parents might still be in the life of the child even if they live apart, the aspect of incarceration, the fact that Blacks unfortunately had a head start in terms of the breakdown of the nuclear family due to the institution that brought the ancestors of most of us in the first place, the decline in “shotgun” marriages(which doesn’t guarantee stability or happiness even if they stay together in the first place) and that some get married after they have children and in turn such families aren’t counted when looking at illegitimacy. So, this is very complex and isn’t as simple as “conservative” or “liberal”, because if you look at places that are supposed to be “conservative”, those states tend to have high illegitimacy rates among Blacks and Whites, as well as other groups.

I can agree with Carolinagirl on this one because honestly, this website flip flops so much on this issue, it gets absolutely ridiculous.

The problem is the image of the family that the Black community is bombarded with on a daily basis. When the media focuses so much on the disparagement between Black Men and Women, there is nothing that gives hope other than what people may intrinsically hold on to. The way to change this around?… start perpetuating more positive images and connections amongst the community and hopefully that’ll help start the reversal of their mentality.

I just wish the values of black women and men where looked at a bit more than the numbers and statistics. In todays day n age of the need to be super educated to play the game anywhere near as well as our white counterparts… Higher unemployment rates for black men over anybody regardless of education…. Many black males are automatically caught in a slightly different cycle or situation than black women. IMO it seems as though the easy route for a black women would then be to jump ship and open the pool of dating to go for A MAN that has perhaps a higher earning potential… More stability in their job… Im talking average men and women just trying to live…
Everybody is trying to “come up”. Maybe the numbers indicate black women trying to “come up” next to a man who will make the struggle easier, regardless of their race or who they are attracted to more.

Im not sure if we can blame anybody there, but the fact remains that the lifestyles sensationalized on TV and Media tell us that this is how we should expect to be living out the gate. Despite the recession n all the other shyte keeping black men and black PEOPLE at a disadvantage in higher percentages.

It boils down to the values that we all hold true to in ourselves and collectively. They can either divide us or attract us to being together.

@Supersoftball- comments like that, you will not date someone thats thick (ru serious) no wonder your single. And @ jazzwatch- I couldn’t agree with you more. For the people who are maaried on ths blog & are gettin offended, why get offended this topic obviously doesn’t pertain to you “right”? Unless you know deep down inside your relationsgip isn’t solid. IJS..

Marriage is like religion the burded and expectations can be unbearable. Life is hard just dealing with job, goals, school, friends, family, health, crime ect. All these things mention u have means to distance ur self from to exhale and regroup. Not so much with a spouse if it’s bad it’s a never ending hell that if u try to run from brings about new problems. If it’s good then mentally, physically and spirtuially u wear ur self down and beat ur self up just tryin to maintain. Its time out for old traditions and rituals the things that brought us togather and kept us r no longer there. Most people still us the kids as the bond but thats like putting a picture up on the wall using tape no matter how strong the tape is the weight of the frame and the pull of gravity it will come crashing down any way.

I was married for 7 years we were together for 14 years. It was hard we both were young especially me. We gave it a good college try, i can say. Money was at the top of the problems. Once that chipped away, other problems came in. He out and i’m home alone. Both of us were very stressed. It was hard but you i live and learn. I wouldn’t be quick to marry again until i was satisfied with what i could bring to the table. I want to be able to give 100% next go around.

a lot of people are missing the point. yeah these stories flip flop but when are black americans gonna get this thing of “life” right? other ethnic groups you see them shopping together as families, grandma, husband and wife and kids. black americans the only time we do group things is at a: PARTY, REUNION OR WAKE: ( my parents are south carolinians and they were married young and stood together. their parents sought of had an arrangement, like people do in the middle east or AFRICA or ASIA.

STRONG BLACK FAMILIES STRONG BLACK COMMUNITIES. other minorities see our weaknesses and laugh. while we are having kids out of wedlock they are teaching their kids to take over AMERICA.

i am on blacksingles.com and everyone is so picky. in other communities you can have a beauty queen marry an ole hermit. the flip to that is she will take care of him he will supply everything she needs and their kids will WANT FOR NOTHING. their kids will be responsible for academics(thirsty), you know—like when we came out of SLAVERY.

The answer to this question is obviously complex due to the many factors in today’s society that can either keep couples from getting married in the first place or tear them apart after they do. Many of which have been discussed in the previous comments. However there are a few factors that I think have been somewhat overlooked.

One factor is that despite the fact that marriage in our culture is believed to be sanctioned by God and is often an integral part of practicing many of today’s religions, marriage predates most, if not all religions and was a primitive solution to a big problem; “Mom’s baby, Dad’s maybe.” The last thing a man wanted to do was support a family that wasn’t his. Marriage was an effort to solve this problem. One could almost imagine the first marriage being a man standing up in front of his village letting everyone know that that woman was his and his alone. It may have been seen as a crass act but a good idea nonetheless. And over the years it evolved the ceremony that we recognize today.

However as marriage evolved so did society’s laws and medical technology. Now we have property laws regarding passing wealth and possessions to offspring and more importantly we now have DNA testing which both serve to erode some of the original necessity of marriage.

Now I’m not arguing that this is the most important factor contributing to the decline of marriage but I do think its over looked.

Another factor that I believe contributes to the decline of marriage is that women don’t need men as much to be providers relatively speaking. Back in the day women were for the most part kept out of the workplace and therefore needed a man to have the basic necessities of food and shelter. Now that women have their own jobs, cribs and money the balance has shifted and they look for men to fulfill their sexual needs primarily. And men being as we are, are happy to oblige.

Marriage is an instrument of nation-building. It will be another two generations before Black people can get back to wholesome marriages as the likes of our grandparents. I have just totally given up on even a “concept” of meeting and marrying a Black woman of my peer here in the States. Let’s face it: we have definitely “lost” two generations. Black men are considered contagious, incompatible, un-marriagable, yada-yada-yada….UNTIL we marry any other woman other than a Black woman…(LOL!)…I gave up years ago….Oh well, life goes on…

easy_one65,,,,,,,,DONT GIVE UP!!!!! ,,,LOL

these days ppl r having kids so young, u gotta factor that in,,,sometimes ppl dont wanna deal with someone who has kids,,,some ppl have been married once b4 and arent ready to do it again,,,some ppl just dont put in enough time & effort in a relationship to allow it to head to marriage,,,and if ur doing everything married couples do (movin in, having kids,,etc) then some dont give marriage a 2nd thought. Im single and never been married, i could have been, but when i know something isnt right, why would i stay? I dont wanna get married more than once, so id rather take my time, and i think thats what alot of people r doing WHICH IS A GOOD THING!!! i dont have to be black to know why some ppl just dont hurry up and get married. Back in the day,,ppl were getting married by 21,,and alot didnt get college educations,,some women were housewives & didnt have career’s,,,,times have changed,,,most r just holding off til they know what they want and have $hit straight,,,it would be pretty irresponsible for themselves to jump into some $hit cuz everyone else is, or they feel pressured. I was with someone for 7yrs,,,were not together anymore, he wanted a baby, wanted to get married,,,if we did,,id be a divorced single mother,,,there would be plenty like me if they wouldve jumped into something just cuz they were with someone for so many yrs!

AMEN @ MsMerising and everyone that knows black marriage is still very much alive and well…

I for 1, am getting tired of reading post like this. Why? Cause, it doesn’t prove anything. After this post we all go our separate ways life goes on till the next new post about relationships.

I do agree with everyone’s post.

I simply would marry someone I LOVE, not a race, I never limited myself to one race, it was who I was attrracted too, and who I loved, and who loved me, unconditionally, in return, if that person was Black, fine, if that person was hispanic, Asian, White, or whatever, it made no differance. marriage is NOT a social statement, its a personal one….as Malcom said, “its ones own affair, one of the strides towards oneness.”

marriage is overrated anyway

You tell Shanice)…you got GRETA taste……

I definitely like what you are saying ,”My point is this. Healthy individuals help produce healthy relationships; healthy relationships produce healthy marriages; and healthy marriages produce healthy families.”

When are experts going to teach individuals ways of being happy therefore they can have healthy relationship.

Personally I’m tried of people suggestion instead of teaching others how to’s…..

Is black marriage dying…….It has died….I am glad I was married for 18 years but no it is not dying it has died I am at the funeral right now

Don’t blame individuals, blame today’s society. For the most part, people are doing the same things they were doing thirty, fifty, or hundred years ago. Families have always been torn apart. People have fallen out of love and people have cheated in the past. However, our lives are so fast paced, it is so easy to move on. In the past, people stayed in marriages for security, convenience, or a certain bond. Our society did not have the support groups we have today. Men and women do not have to put up with being abused, mistreated, or manipulated. Getting divorced is easier than ever. People fail to realize that in the past, many people did not marry for love. Laws have changed and people live longer. There are many factors at hand. Some can argue with the breakdown of religion or blame it on television. But for blacks, we have to ask, has our institution of marriage ever been complete. With slavery, many families were broken up. After the Civil War, we had the years of Reconstruction and just as many families torn apart. Then we had the longevity of the Jim Crow era where many black men, like today could not find jobs that would support a family. Think about how hard it is for a black man to get respect and to keep it. With so much weight on black men’s shoulders, it is much easier said than done. Think about how our government supported the breakup of families by welfare. Once again, there are so many factors, it is just down right scary. Lastly, I think some blacks just do not know what a positive, functional family is. How does one know if they grew up in a broken home to? I came from a family with both parents in the household that worked, raised us, and contributed equally. My dad played his role as so my mom. Both are educated and both always worked. We were high middle class, always had a home, never an apartment, and lived the American dream. They owned everything we had and we owned land with a lake, trees full of fruit, three or more cars, and most importantly since of family. So today, I thank my mom and dad for giving me the life that many want for, wish, for, and need. We may be from the south, Mississippi, but we lived a life without handouts. My parents are not religious fanatics, they let me and my siblings watch most stuff on TV, and let us live and learn. In turn, we learned the right things and to be respectful. Today, my parents are still married, none of their children have been in jail, no children out of wedlock, and all of us are straight. Although I have never been married yet, I treat not only women but everyone with respect. So I think being raised in a normal family setting would make the difference of a failing marriage or successful one.

Marriage is dying? Damn where have I been…I could’ve sworn that true love never dies.

Yes it is dying. Welcome to multiculturalism.

Interesting that the focus is just on “black on black” marriage, because marriage as a whole in this country, among all races, is on the decline. Why limit it to race when even among the majority, 6 out of 10 are failing?

And why is marriage such a standard bearer? It is not people’s #1 priority to settle down into the marital institution. Both women and men are now taking their time, traveling, getting degrees, establishing careers and just having fun and enjoying life on their own before settling down. And even after settling down, if the situation doesn’t work, you move on. Marriage is wonderful but I think too much emphasis is placed on it as the end all-be all of happiness.

Black love is in the throes of death. From a sociological perspective, if marriages of today were compared with black marriages say, 40-50 years ago? Marriages such as my grands and parents had/have staying power. A married person knew “where you were ” not only during the good times, but in the face of adversity as well. They did not jump ship compared with what we see today. To coin a phrase, “we may not have a cent to pay the rent, but we’re gonna make it.” Ego generally took a back-seat back then. It WAS all about “family FIRST.”

I contend that black love is on the rocks in terms of the higher percentage of black people that embrace cohabitation vs. making it legit, including children without benefit of marriage.

Societal mores and values are forever changing, based on what we see today. Black love
should have never been compromised.

Phazex….40 or 50 years ago technology didn’t rule the world. I still find it crazy how the internet just changed EVERYTHING. Perseverance doesn’t exist in relationships no more because of it. Why keep trying to make it work when somebody who looks better just hit you up on facebook(I can’t believe I STILL don’t have one) the other day with more money/ fat ass? A lot of these folks, men and women, don’t even know what love is. It depends on the individual too, so much other sh*t factors in I don’t even feel like typing it lol.

marriege is just a way to keep our numbers down….back in the day if a woman was pregnant without marriege they charge her with child neglect and chop her tubes…black women too….

MAAFA21

I don’t believe black marriage is dying, but I do believe they are not advertising black marriage enough in the media, I also dont believe the statistic because we do have black couples who have been together for a long period of time but just dont believen marriage.

The Black race is slowly but surely becoming non-existent. If family is the barometer by which we use to judge success them we as a people are doom. 75% of our marriages fail, 50% of our children don’t graduate from high school and of the 50% that graduated 1/2 of them are illiterate. We make up 3% of the population of the USA but 76% of prisons are African American 67% male. Black infant mortality is the 3rd highest in the world even amongst unindustrialized nations. There are a million more black women than blackmen. Each year 500,000 African Americans die due to diabetics, obesity, and other preventable disease. Black on black crime is at an all time high. I guess i’m using the statistics out of content but the fact is with all this going on WE STILL WON’T WAKE UP!!!

I have the solution that will solve all our problems….

For me yes 4 others no. Black marriages r still going on they’re just not taking it seriously these days, too much cheatin g lying & disrespect going on between the black spouses of today. U have the DL brothas & the DL sistas messin up marriages of their own everyday. Not only that, people r following the media & what others r doing instgead of leading the example. Interracial marriages r so high because of the media. We are told black is repulsive & interracial dating & marriage is whats hot now. We losing every fiber of our being to other races. Peer pressure 2 be a self haitng racist is alive & well. Black women are no longer intersted in marrying a black man becuz of he way ther degrade us & mistreat their children (some of the men) by becoming absent fathers by choice. Black women have been hold ingthe frontline for so long we are now overlooked for wifey material for Xrated material. I really dont know if I will ever get married again due to the way most black men have treated me in the past & now presen t. They expect too much from us & not enough from other races. Why is that?

“Black on Black” ?

You’re already making it seem like it’s a crime. You’re using a term most defined as criminal actions based on race.

Black women have been socialized in recent generations to be impatient with others, especially with Black men. At times, they demand more than many men are able to give at that time. Once the impatience sets in, and as her sister-girls keep prodding her, “How come your man hasn’t done “x” yet?”, she’s more prone to leave him, move to California, and hook up with the first “celebrity” she perceives has the means to meet her time needs.

That’s why there are far too many Black women out here getting smashed, bashed, and trashed with a quickness and then become sour on men altogether – opting to just remain single, or going on over to women. They’ve become soured on relationships altogether because unreasonable time and ability expectations for Black Men are made on the Black woman by other Black women!

It isn’t until a Black woman reaches the age of 40 and beyond when she finally realizes that she’s pushed Black men away, or made far too many expectations of Black men in her peer group that they are equally as mature, equally as capable of amassing resources, or equally capable of navigating multiple social groups.

Black women need to learn to take it slower, don’t jump immediately into bed – even when you really want it, and take the time they need to become the best woman that they can be. Only then will these Sistas begin to demand from the Black men a level of self-improvement that is better than the caliber of man that they’re settling for today.

Marriage is dead period next intelligent topic please lmaooooooooooo

Atleast Im still married to my two front false teeth I guess that should account for something

I hope it’s dying, I wouldn’t want to be in a black marriage…thats sounds scary…

cant wait for it to die….we need to multiply and get our numbers up fack marriage….we is a dying breed

dam !! bw should stop fukn an let the black race die out!! i dont give a fuk now!!

Looking at these comments, my girl and I might as well kill each other now. Make it a real “Romeo & Juliet” scenario.

Nope black marriage is not dying. African and Caribbean marriages happen ALL the time.

why is marriege neccessary?….to validate our love?….or is it because the goverment push it so you cant see your spouse on their death bed if you not married? is it the things you can get after the person die? or is it to get a better deal on your taxes? insurance maybe?…marriage doesnt stop anything realy so whats da big deal about it?……

CybamynQueen82, maybe if I copuld find a lady that LOOKS like you(and is Betty Crocker), then I would marry her ;)…..

marry for love, not for race.

The sister that said that black women should stop giving it up to the brothers,and let the black race die out is ignorant.I also strongly believe in black on black marriage,my natural mate is a sister,peace.

The reason black on black marriage is dying is because of the false notion that love is color blind and green is all that matters – I blame it more on the sisters but the brothers deserve a lot of blame also. For years and generations the so called best sisters married white men and the media never really covered it as much – Whole societies like the creoles are based upon black women having kids by white men and that group of offspring were so called better than the rest of the other blacks- this has been done for years – look at the stupid b***h that called into the Laura Ingram show- She called a racist to complain about racism- shouldn’t she have discussed his views before she married him ? How could she have kids and bring a child in this world with someone like that ?It’s sad but true many black families don’t care about the black race and they take more pride as being accepted as equal to whites ( which is never true in whites mind) than building a strong black community. Why is it that the more sucessful a black women is the more likely she will marry a white man because she can’t find any black men on her level is the excuse – It that black pride ? Halle Berry Oprah Diana Ross Whoopie Goldberg Regina King Lena Horne and too many to name black women have so called crossed over and get a pass for selling out- If a black man had dated a white woman and was told she was breaking up with him because he was black sistas would be all over that like ants – Yet Oprah dated John Tesh and he dumped her because she was black and she continued to kiss white men’s ass like John Travolta – Race doesnt matter only to those who don’t matter to their race – I say let em marry who they want and form a separate category – that’s what they want anyway

The Willie Lynch sin-drome is instilled in our minds from the beginning of slavery. It is instilled in some brothers and sisters mind, that the white man is in everyway, better than her black king. Even the black man thinks when he gets alot of money , it is program in his mind, that he have to have the best women. The best to the African brother & sister in america is someone white anglosaxon devil; deep in his heart, looks at a African as a stupid n****rs and you are still a slave; when you bring your white master his breakfast in the morning. When a black man and a black women have an disagreement, it’s just a disagreement. But when a white person argues with you in a relationship in his mind you are a dirty stinkin n****r, and he hates you. The white man won’t admit it , but that’s how he & she feels , in their very souls. We black people are not African Americans, we are just Africans in America. The white mans plan is to do away with all beautiful black faces and create a new n****r slave, with lighter skin and straighter hair. This new slaves is a half breed,and is taught to hate the original African , that was brought to this country in chains or as slaves. Don’t believe it my brothers and sisters, that this white man loves you. His plan is to destroy
all people of color. He put Jesus on the cross, so just think what he has instore for you. Wake
up my Africans brothers and sisters, and bring back that unity and love for one another. From the Royal One !

“I hope it’s dying, I wouldn’t want to be in a black marriage…thats sounds scary…”

@Icon -2010:

Why would you NOT want to see proliferation of the black race?

I think it has. Why? I dunno.

@digg…funny you should ask this question for it really confirms the fact that the younger generations have lost a sense of life bcuz it’s not being passed down from generation to generation. The reason for marriage is bcuz Jehovah God said it was suppose to be that way. I mean, really…do anyone that was born in the 80′s and 90′s know ANYTHING about the bible?? Adam and Eve were husband and wife, so they were married thru the union of God being the headship of their relationship.

He made a commandment for man and woman to be married so that they can enjoy the benefits of companionship and sexual relations. Why is this so hard for ppl to get? The laws of the land branded the couple in a marital situations. That’s why there’s a big fuss about marriage and the very reason why today’s marriages are all in vain is bcuz of the enemy’s plan to brainwash ppl into thinking otherwise. Like it’s no longer neccessary to be with someone for the rest of your life bcuz too many ppl in this life time only want the benefits of the sex without the TRUE and REAL commitment of the relationship. The bible speaks on all of this. Pick it up (I recommend a new world’s translation version bcuz it explains further in depth) and read it. It has all the answers to your question.

If the slave trade couldnt get rid of the black race, i really do not think anything will be deleting the black race any time soon. We are the people of the sun, and the sun powers the earth. So just do the MATH….. :)

@sophinal40… I see your profile is private. Thank you. No need to further expose people to your ignorance.

@digg_it_up..you can not be this stupid. You don’t present an effective argument against marriage however you certainly provide a valid reason for birth control. Seriously, I would hate to think I or any woman could bare such a cognitively impaired human being. I would not want to burden the world like that.

Any who, black marriage isn’t dying but its for damn sure on the critical list. Not because there aren’t Black couples dating and in love but because they are opting for long term living together. After all marriage is nothing but a legal contract that binds you to the other person. Yet there are very good reasons for being married, such as giving children a more stable home with both parents. Or the benefits of health insurance should one partner have it and the other doesn’t. Or just to build a stronger kinship. But think about this, one reason for the numbers of Black marriages being low is the number of black woman on public assitance. The minute they say I do the state says we don’t, your done. By no means am I trying to clown, but its true. You have women who make their way of life being on welfare.

@Motown_lovely1 :

marrigae a legal contract?? come on doe!!! marriage is a life long commitment!!! i ain’t never knew marriage had a contract length. But nah, i don’t believe black on black marriage. I believe some people just make stupid decisions on who they and why they are marrying that person.

why it’s dying?
sin, sin, sin and more sin. i guarantee you, if you look for it, you can pinpoint the SIN that keeps us from marriage or destroys it

promiscuity
warped mentalities (thanks to sheeple following tv, celebs, society)
lies
greed
selfishness
lust etc

the devil doesnt have to think of new tricks when the old ones work perfectly. the family unit is being wiped out as promised to happen during these last days

CMCDUFFY9464, “I also strongly believe in black on black marriage,my natural mate is a sister,peace.”

Well said….There is no other race out there strong enough in mind and able to relate to ME, but my brothers….

The issue isn’t really is our race dying out, if anything the other races are becoming black. So no i don’t believe that black marriage is dying out. ive seen alot of black marriages here in oklahoma so no. Now what we have to understand is that our race isn’t self educating ourselves about our rich history, weve become so consumed with what the media puts infront of our faces, which is just a clever jedi mindtrick.
We need to have more unity, therefore our families will survive. And for those who choose to marry outside of our race this issue is that Most non-black women don’t know how to deal with a black childs energy. Before in our history the majority of mulatto children were being raised by black women. Now the mulatto children are being raised by other race mothers. We just have to keep knowledge as a forefront in our homes, and through that damn tv out. The media will try and make you believe we have all these issues, and create problems in black love that really don’t exsist on a high level. Spread love and truth, Liberation can only come through education of who we truly are.

Personally, even IF black-on-black marriage is dying, it won’t deter me from wanting to love a true, “good” black woman, much less committing to such a gem. Like dredre09 had said, TRUE marriage is about LOVE. And, as I believe sophinal40 had implied, there’s NOTHING like TRUE black love. Now, I could follow the “logic” of those who say “if you can’t find love in the black neighborhood, venture around town”, but I feel what CaliFemme23 said… There’s NOTHING like TRUE black love… Even skeptics of “there’s someone for everyone” like me WANTS to be proven wrong through TRUE black love…

@digg_it_up, I feel you, but I don’t feel you. I’m not going to “Bible-thump” at you concerning the necessity of marriage… I will, however, come this way… I see marriage as necessary because it’s the right and logical thing to do. If the saying “there’s someone for everyone” is true, that naturally means that ONE man is meant to be bonded with ONE woman. THAT’S God’s institution of marriage–the bonding. Now, I believe I see where you’re coming from–the “law” and God’s intentions kinda “V” off from each other when the “law” FORCES a man and a woman to “stay together” due to “legal ramifications” while God COMPELS a man and a woman to TRULY stay together because they both and individually CHOOSE stay together. God NEVER intended “shotgun weddings” in a legal perspective. Nor was marriage intended for ANYTHING short of the bond.

@CynamynQueen82, that may be true, but I THINK the context is talk about such here in America. The world WOULD be a MUCH nicer place if more black-on-black marriages in America were going on instead of more black-on-black crime, more black-on-black disrespect, etc. And, when I mean “black-on-black marriages”, I mean the ones that are TRUE, still together when the man and the woman can’t see eye-to-eye kinda marriages. The kind of black-on-black marriages in which both or either the man and the woman would hear such sayings as “black-on-black marriages are dying” and laugh faces OFF… NOT the “black-on-black ‘marriages’” where either the man or the woman booger-flick the other off whenever the wind changes direction…

FunSeeker6, you have a point, and thank you. It could be talking about the marriages occurring in the U.S. between black Americans. I still don’t think that is dying either, despite the high crime rates among blacks in America. This is just my perspective. Everyone else’s will differ due to their experience. If a black woman is what you strongly prefer, then she is who you will find.

jazzwatch, you’ll find your own Betty Crocker :)

@CynamynQueen82
Amen!

@easy_one65
Don’t give up on ALL black women, just because you gave up on African American women, specifically. If they’re tripping (and I agree that they’ve artificially overinflated themselves out of the market, really), aim for other black women, of other ethnicities. They are plentiful and still come with culture, in tact.

it most absolutely is dying dam shame!

Black Marriage is Dead & Buried right alongside the casket if Hip Hop.

You people need to read each others comments then find/research some factual data.

#1. Your divorce rate is higher than your marriage rates.

#2. You make up 12% of the population!!! 12% In America!

#3. YOU ARE NOT turning any other race or group of people black! Example: What is Black? Just a Skin color with a darker complexioned parent?

#4. Should you marry someone you love and not race? This is the devils manner of speaking and thinking. Most of us know what love is and how to love, and I assume we all know, when you take up this thought process of just loving ANYONE, there is at least a 75% outcome, you will be mixing your seed with your Owner, a Caucasian.

#5. You lack unity on the most basic requirements that most races have long figured out. So, marriage, tradition, values, and honoring your own origins or roots is too difficult a task. American holidays are easier and better for you and your black kids.

#6. You still walking around with a slaver owners name and their ideals for what life is.

#7. You have let the system control your children by walking into your home and put the poison in their hands and minds.

#8. You’re looking for other races of people to take some of the blame. Why just Black people? What about the others? These are the words of the cowards, afraid to face ourself and our issues, unite and over come this bull crap.

#9. Most black folk is America are brainwashed, and mind you, we make up 12% of this nation and have the highest HIV/AIDS/Single Parent/Non Married Families/Black on Black Crime/Drug use, addiction, probability to die of murder or get locked in prison.

#10. Blacks, like most others here in America are caught in the snare of white civilization. As much as needs to be done, should get done, there is just too much going on to focus on my people. So I do sympathize for US as a people, because the spell they have on the masses is strong. The spell of Leviathan on it’s slaves and minions.

Again, you are 12% of almost nothing to this nation. Such a small number with no unity, no wonder we are mostly located in rural areas or large urban city areas. We stupid in America!

Good article…at the end of the day we have to learn how to move from “I” to “we”
http://www.blackloveandmarriage.com

When you send all our women to school and send all our men to prison, what can you expect? Prison makes slaves, free labor. When did we lose the black women? When they put us on the ships to be sold , we no longer had a women. master took our women when they saw them big booty’s , he went to bed with our women and if his women looked at us, she was killed along with the black man. This country is going broke, when there is no more money, watch how fast the black women will get rid of him. She want that big money that she is getting on these jobs and when that money stops she is gone too. Love, she love money. but that is all over now, We are all dying , Matthew 24:22, Revelation 16:8. We could not live together but we will die together. Time was shorten when the big earthquake hit Chile , it shorten our days. only a few will be left alive and they will be eating each other, too hot to grow food. 1/3 of us will be killed by war, 1/3 by a star that will fall into our sea call wormwood. Revelation 16:15 Jesus comes back for his people before the big earthquake. most of the other third is dying now. The antichrist has been here for a long time, it is written we will love him, who do we love? lol. Lots of people has already joined him already.

I do beleive black on black marriage is dying but i beleive it has alot to do with our expectation of each other and what the media protrays in terms of blacks. woman wants a black man who’s successful, funny, goodlooking and he must still some how be a thug. while
black men wants a strong woman, successful but not more than he is,loyal and a great mother
but as a race we have to remeber woman cannot be strong all the time. but the one great thing i love about black men is that they all say they want a lady on the street but a freak in the sheet luckly for them most black women are. but what do we get?

maybe black women need to start submitting the way they should..?

Ephesians 5:23
For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior.

1 Corinthians 11:3 But I want you to understand that Christ is the head of every man, and the man is the head of a woman, and God is the head of Christ.

Colossians 3:18
Wives, submit to your husbands, as is fitting in the Lord.

It means just what it says, don’t let anyone try and water it down..
GB

I do believe black marriages are on the decline as well. The writer has an excellent point about people being healthy individuals entering into a union in order for black marriages to survive and thrive.

I think the big issue is black love dying because we no longer love and work together but we use each other for our own gain and have no loyalty. Remember Good Times where Florida and James worked together and make it through hard times, loved their kids, and raised them with values and expectations? I know it’s a show but if you look at that time in history and now we have men picking women according to trophy status and sex. Women choosing men according to their wallets and paychecks while trying to seal child support by getting pregnant. I don’t want to write a book but I don’t think the women of the 60′s said…….oh you lost your job babe/you can’t pay from my hair and nails…………..I’m out. I also don’t think men of the 60′s said……..oh she’s a bad chick, everybody on the block has ran through that, she drinks like a fish and screws on the first night – that’s wifey right there.

The lack of fathers and mothers raising kids with some sense is on the decline. Therefore these unhealthy boys/girls (raised in this new age – who needs a man error) grow into unhealthy people and that’s what we see with the “praise” of single households. We are looking at the results of the change in the dynamics of family culture. Now I”m not saying you can’t raise a healthy child as a single parent but it would appear according to the numbers……God had it right to acknowledge the importance of the male and female role in a childs development so they can become a healthy adult.

We are screwed up. I know history and slavery plays a role but there comes a time when you have to wake up and grow up.

From the looks of it, yes indeed it is. I see more interracial couple way more now than the early 90s and 80s. I think black men have self hate and want what the white man has and at the same time i also believe that white women have always desired black men because they are some fine human beings; some are. It doesn’t upset me when i see an interracial couple b/c half of them brothas that the non black women are nothing that i would desire anyway so they can have them. On the other side, i see alot of sistahs with white men too so i thinks it’s evening out. The world is everchanging and black people are doing and having things that we never had before which is making us equal to whites. Pretty soon there won’t be no black men b/c black women won’t be having black baby boys ever thought of that?

@ICON- 2010 You forgot something else..

EPHESIANS 5:25 HUSBANDS, LOVE YOUR WIVES, JUST AS CHRIST LOVED THE CHURCH AND GAVE HIMSELF FOR HER…READ UNITLL VERSE 33… FOR SOME REASON MEN TEND TO LEAVE OUT THAT PART..ISH.

YOU ALSO FORGOT…….

COLOSSIANS 3: 19 HUSBANDS, LOVE YOUR WIVES AND DO NOT BE BITTER TOWARD THEM.

IF YOU ARE GOING SAY SOMETHING SAY IT RIGHT…ISH!! BEEN ONE SIDED IS ANOTHER REASON WHY RELATIONSHIPS AND MARRIAGES FAIL…

Hell yeah black marriages are dying. I look at my parents who were married in 1978 and my maternal grandparents who were married in 1939 (my grandpa has been deceased since 1990 and my grandma is still alive at 90) and they are the definition of LOVE in general. Makes me wish I was around in the 40s, 50s, 60s, 70s to find that love because in 2010, it’s impossible now. I’m 28 and not married yet and have a daughter, but when I was 8, my 3rd grade teacher asked me back then 20 years from now, what I’ll be doing and I said “married to my prince and live happily ever after” wow, that sucks! In this day and age, I don’t think I will ever have a ring put on me, but at least I have a beautiful daughter, she makes me happy.

@ICON…the only men that are worth submitting to are the ones that does as God commands them to do. If Jesus is head over man and he is up under God, THEN and only then is the wife to be submissive to. I refuse to be submissive to a man that is going to deceive me and lead me to damnation. I do not think so!!

msveevee1, I hear what you said, but thats a lie from hell, thats not what God says, God says Obey even if the husband isn’t saved..

1st Peter 3:1 Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands; that, if any obey not the word, they also may without the word be won by the conversation of the wives;

In other words God is saying don’t worry about what he’s doing, do you first..Amen?
see where it says if any obey not the word, this speaks to the unsaved husbands..

caribbean-lady I didn’t forget any of that,we all know that as women were given more rights,the divorce rate rose dramatically,not only that but concerning your verses you posted..why did God feel the need to tell the husband not to be bitter? LOL was there a reason the husband would be bitter? against their wives? they were bitter because the wives was trying to usurp authority and causing friction..also i agree with bother verses you posted, and also, why was there a need to tell the husband to love his wife?

Were there husbands that refused to love them for some reason? LOL
I believe the same-thing that causes divorce today caused it back then

TO THE WIVES
Titus 2:5 to be sensible, pure, workers at home, kind, being subject to their own husbands, so that the word of God will not be dishonored.

msveevee1 Also, that domineering attitude is just what I’m talking about listen to yourself?

your words>>>@ICON…the only men that are worth submitting to

who gives you the right to decide what a mans worth is? I’m not saying that angrily,but to prove a point,its that same attitude that chases black men away from black women,somewhere black women got the word strong mixed up with rebellious and prideful..

being a strong woman means being able to do what God says, and realizing that any strength that you may have comes from God..it takes more strength to submit than to rebel,submission to your husband,is submission to God,if you can’t submit to your husband whom you see everyday, how can you submit to God whom you’ve never seen?

Do you and others think God doesn’t know your hearts?
God Bless Sister.. In Love I speak..and always feel free t0-e-mail me

MARRIAGES COST MONEY….5,000 10,000,20,000 WE AINT GOT THAT KINDA MONEY..EVEN WHITEFOLKS WAITN LONGER TO GET MARRIED

AND ICON 2010 DONT EVEN WASTE YA TIME ON msveevee1 SHE WAITIN ON JESUS..A WHITEMAN GOD WUTEVA…

yes. if they do marry divorce kills most of them. This submitting stuff goin on on some of the posts is very iffy. it may be in bible but at this day in age its not happening cause a lot of men are lost and engulfed in sinful acts of this day and they see that passage and think they can do what they want with women like we’re brainless puppies. How you gonna want a woman thats pure but you slept with half the block? If im saved and you’re not how am i gonna submit to you? If you cant support me why would I submit to you? God made me with a mind of my own and, according to proven studies, slightly more intelligent then most men. I prefer it be 50/50 if i were to ever get married. I think every thing should be discussed and decisions should be made between both partners. I think the issue with black men and women is that we are always competing with each other and there is a lot of self hate. I think we are VERY VERY VERY hard on each other as well. You also gotta keep in mind the statistics of black men that are gay, in prison, and dating out of their race, the same for women. Its sad but for me its not that personal love is love no matter where you find it.

Marriage is dying not just black marriage. I think the attitudes people have toward marriage is all screwed up now. So many people look at it almost like its purely business now and evaluate whether someone is marriage material on every factor besides love.
Its so funny to me how when a relatively successful black man marries a non black woman all these women start complaining when 1. they were not at all interested when he was still struggling to get to that point. 2. were not compatible with him before he became successful.

A lot of women these days seem unwilling to love someone and work with that person to try to achieve their goals. Instead they keep looking to find someone who has already achieved what they want and wonder why those men are already taken by women who genuinely loved them and worked together with them to earn that success.

There is a young couple in my family who are now married with children. Before they were married the woman was very successful early on in her career while the man was still struggling to finish college due to various set backs. They married and the woman mainly supported them while he finished college late and started working in his career at lower paying entry level positions. Now many years later they have multiple children and the wife stays home and the black man who was struggling at first is the one who supports the whole family financially. Now of course women who would never have considered that man look at the situation and wonder why they can’t find a husband like that.

Its not dying but Ive seen more interracial couples in the news and magazine, it is hyped up more if it involves nonblack, but ive seen lots of black on black couple getting married, ive been to so many black couple wedding I lost count. Im even going to attend a black wedding next month.

I have been married before, it didn’t work. Now the reason it didn’t work, to me , isn’t anything we did, it was what we didn’t do. We were blessed and God allowed us to prosper. But as time went on, we didn’t involve God as we should have and we did we “we” wanted to do; that in turn led to failure. Our pride was a big factor, and there are 3 things that can destroy a person: pride anger and unforgiveness. I don’t want to be married right now again because of where divorce process led us, but I wish I had included God more before it was too late ,then my children wouldn’t have to be counted in this unfortunate statistic.

God loves unity while satan loves to distract and seperation, because he knows how powerful you would be together. There is an extreme lack of love today, and we live in a society were no one wants to fight for each other anymore. Selfishness has also played its part as well in these misfortunate cases( to cheat on your spouse no matter how you see it,is selfish on that person’s part).Marriage is a good thing, I say this to all of you good and wonderful people (that means all of you).

I think there need to be a bigger lesson in life on what love is; we seem to have so many different definitions. If any of you have time read Matt ch 1-10. I saw things in that that I didn’t realize before. There are things in that that say what Jesus says love is. This helped me to mature a little more for my own well being.

I saw that some someone said they don’t believe in religion, I know you have your reasons, but I hope that someday that you change your mind.

God loves you all and so do I, and there would be better relationships if we love others as we simply love ourselves. Because when we do this, a better relationship with eacho ther will only be one of the few things that manifest.

Maybe in writing this, God is trying to tell me to go and mend my own broken relationship.

I have been talking about myself because I can only account for what I have experienced, so I pass no judgement on anyone,( even if we don’t agree), but I will pray for the best for everyone on here…right now

I AM SO SICK OF THE EXCUSE THAT BLACK MEN…THAT IS SOME BLACK MEN GIVE FOR LEAVING THEIR RACE TO MARRY INTO ONE OF THE “STRAIGHT -HAIRED” GROUPS. THE EXCUSE SAYING THAT “BLACK WOMEN’S ATTITUDE” IS THE PROBLEM. IT IS AS DUMB AS A BLACK WOMAN SAYING, “OH! I DON’T WANT TO MARRY A BLACK MAN BECAUSE HE IS GOING TO LEAVE ME AS A SINGLE MOTHER!” OR “OH, I DON’T WANT A BLACK MEN BECAUSE HE MAY SIT AROUND AND NOT WANT TO WORK” OR “OH HE MAY STEAL WHAT IS IN MY BANK ACCOUNT, OR HE MAY WIND UP IN JAIL OR GET IN TROUBLE WITHE THE LAW”…..YEAH THESE ARE ALL THE STEREOTYPICAL IDEAS OF BLACK MEN IN THIS COUNTRY! SHOULD WE BLACK WOMEN USE THIS AS AN EXCUSE TO FIND A NONBLACK MAN TO MARRY?!! THE BLACK MAN DOES NOT LIKE IT, AND CRINGES WHEN HE HEARS OF ALL OF THE STEREOTYPES ABOUT HIS ASS!! JUST ADMIT THE TRUTH YOU WANT TO GO INTERRACIAL BECAUSE YOU MEN BUY INTO THE SLAVE MENTALITY THAT STATES….LIGHTER IS BETTER….BECAUSE YOU ENVY THE WHITE MAN AND WANT WHAT HE HAS….(ONLY THOUGH IT IS OBVIOUS THAT 9 OUT OF 10 TIMES THE WHITE WOMAN THE BLACK MEN HAVE ARE USUALLY THE DISCARDED ONES”……YOU’ALL DEFINITELY AINT’ GETTIN THE BARBIE TYPES! ANOTHER REASON WHY BLACK MEN GO INTERRACIAL IS TO HUMILIATE THE BLACK WOMAN IN FRONT OF THE WORLD BECAUSE HE IS HUMILIATED BY THE FACT THAT BLACK WOMEN ARE ECONOMICALLY AND EDUCATIONALLY AHEAD OF THE BLACK MAN….BUT LISTEN TO THIS BLACK MAN…EVERY OTHER RACE OF MEN, EVEN HISANIC MEN AND FOREIGN MEN ARE DOING BETTER THAN THE BLACK MAN….THIS IS A CURSE THAT THE BLACK MAN HAS PLACED ON HIS OWN HEAD!! SO PLEASE WITH THE STUPID ASS EXCUSE THAT BLACK WOMEN HAVE ATTITUDES….MOST OF YOU MEN SAYING THIS CHEATED ON THEIR WOMEN AND THE BLACK WOMAN DID NMOT TAKE THEIR S**T, OR THEY CANNOT MAKE FOOLS OUT OF THE BLACK WOMAN LIKE THEY COULD’ THE NONBLACK WOMAN! SO IN THE 50′S AND 60′S BLACK MEN DIDNOT HAVE THE ALTERNATIVE TO MARRY OUTSIDE OF THEIR RACE, THEY WERE NOT TALKING THIS NONSENSE!……OH SO WHAT HAPPENED BLACK MEN? WHAT A COINCIDENCE, NOW THAT YOU CAN INTERRACIAL, SUDDENLY BLACK WOMEN ARE UNDESIRABLE, AND HAVE A BAD ATTITUDE, I GUESS BLACK WOMEN DID NOT HAVE ATTITUDES IN THE 50′S AND 60′S…..PLEASE……..THIS IS OBVIOUSLY AN EXCUSE, AND IF THEY THINK WE LOOK BAD OR SHOULD BE EMBARASSED BY IT ALL…..IT IS THE BLACK MAN WHO IS BEING LAUGHED AT…………AND THE KKK IS GETTIMG THE BIGGEST LAUGH OF IT ALL SAYING, :”SEE WE WERE RIGHT, BLACK MEN WANT OUR WOMEN BECAUSE OURS IS BETTER THAN THEIRS…….AND WE ARE SUPERIOR TO THEM….SEE THEY KNOW THE WHITE RACE IS SUPERIOR!!

etraciesplace… Proves my point perfectly…

Etraciesplace…Amen!!!!!!!

I feel that black marriages are dying because of us…. (ourselves) …. Some not all —- Women are making it to easy for the man to want to get married.. Why should he? If he can call and come see this one on this day and see the other one when he is finished with the first one. They all are catering to his needs…… WOMEN be strong, be more demanding…. The man and the woman is not going to come like we want them to be. That is why we have to work at a relationship. Marriage is a give and take that starts with a friendship….

MARRIAGE IS HONORABLE AMONG ALL MEN. MARRY WHAT RACE YOU WANT. MAKE SURE THE MAN LOVES THE WOMAN, AND WOMAN LOVES THE MAN. LIVE IN EQUALITY, AND BE GOD FEARING IN RIGHTEOUS LIVING. PEACE.

Excuses, excuses. Black – on – black marriage is dying on excuses, to not commit yourself to ONE INDIVIDUAL LIKE YOURSELF, that shares a common legacy, history and potentially can know you better than anyone else. Many blacks don’t & won’t love themselves and therefore can’t love someone that resembles them. They’ve fed into “others” are better from the media, society and sometimes, even from their own families. I don’t have any general solutions to individual choices except be true to your heart and the impetus behind your choices.

I wish that it wasn’t true but where i live i’m not seeing a large amount of black men in committed relationships with black women. i wish that , don’t take this wrong but it’s the truth, i wish that more black women would stop being baby mamas and start making these men hold out more. i know you say that’s old fashioned but that’s why marriages lasted longer because we weren’t just giving it up and getting pregnant within two months of knowing the man.
what we have should be treated as a sacred gift that men only get after committment. i wasn’t always like that but when i sit and think about it, it’s like yep. marriages use to last 50 or more years but now people live together for 5 years then marry, the marriage last 2 years and they divorce. why not marry then live together? i mean you’re living like you’re married anyway so why not make it official and honorable in the eyes of God

yes it is ,years ago i said i would only date and marry a black woman, i have gotten to the point where i have open my mind that just maybe my soul mate might be of another race ,not saying i wont date a sister but my door is now open to any skin color .

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Little babies grow into boys and girls who, ready or not, become physically able to reproduce and say “I Do,” and do other cultural stuff without ever touching the maturity level that committment requires. No maturity – selfishness reigns as in pre-school “give me that, I had it first,” and other childish ish to include “I DESERVE” allowed to pound so long and loud in the head till divorce is right there alongside that double dip death by chocolate ice cream cone.

Who is going to set the mature example for the babies? What comes first, the egg or the chicken?

Weddings ain’t marriages and families, regardless of the ethnicity.

Bottom line is both male and female finding out what it really takes to go the distance, looking in the mirror and then honestly answering the question; “am I mature enough to become anyone’s husband/father and grandfather or wife/mother and grandmother?

At least that’s what nearly 30 years of tryin to be married and the horror of divorce taught me ………..so far…………..for sure.

Thanks for the opportunity to speak.

Good one Bob.
- TV and ignorant people controls the thinking patterning mothers and fathers are lazy and forgot the meaning of true faith in each other. Grandparents are dying and men and woman are more ignorant than ever. Dam it hurts to see single black woman with know father to there kids, and also it hurts to see black men and woman going at each other necks everyday over stupid things; we are destroying ourselves at an enormous rate and God is not please with our behavior.

Kings and Queens need to act like Ladies and Gentlemen.

-Great Topic.

I can’t wait to get married but now that’s a little scary. lol

Black marriage is dead as a whole,why?we refuse to have a culture with true substance which is not Eurocentric.Look at other cultures who come to Amerrikka,stronge family values and their god that looks like them.We are to busy trying to fit into this decadent western way of life which is a death culture which we have sold our soul to,now suffer for lack of culture and knowledge,our own choice.And the white lesbian movement of the 60′s fooled the black women to be so called liberated from the man,most black women will tell you they do’nt need a man,they have become bitter and selfish women toward her own man.Ask youself again,why you will not find this in other cultures?

Is Black on Black Marriage Dying? NOPE if you consider Africans, Caribbeans and African Americans in its totality as Blacks…using this stat, i can assure you that Black on Black Marriage in the US is growing. The lens at which we look at stuff is what limits what we should see.

My next door neighbor married and father of 3 young children is constantly trying to talk to me and get me to come over his house when his wife isn’t home. She has no idea as far as I know and I turn him down every time.

Sooner or later he is going to get someone to sleep with him and then what? Is she suppose to stay with him for the kids? Ignore what he has done and hope he doesn’t do it again?

How do you actually KNOW who you are marrying when you marry them? As a single mother myself I think I’ll wait until I’m older before I think about getting married and focus on myself and my son.

QUOTE: “I AM SO SICK OF THE EXCUSE THAT BLACK MEN…THAT IS SOME BLACK MEN GIVE FOR LEAVING THEIR RACE TO MARRY INTO ONE OF THE “STRAIGHT -HAIRED” GROUPS. THE EXCUSE SAYING THAT “BLACK WOMEN’S ATTITUDE” IS THE PROBLEM. IT IS AS DUMB AS A BLACK WOMAN SAYING, “OH! I DON’T WANT TO MARRY A BLACK MAN BECAUSE HE IS GOING TO LEAVE ME AS A SINGLE MOTHER!” OR “OH, I DON’T WANT A BLACK MEN BECAUSE HE MAY SIT AROUND AND NOT WANT TO WORK” OR “OH HE MAY STEAL WHAT IS IN MY BANK ACCOUNT, OR HE MAY WIND UP IN JAIL OR GET IN TROUBLE WITHE THE LAW”…..YEAH THESE ARE ALL THE STEREOTYPICAL IDEAS OF BLACK MEN IN THIS COUNTRY! SHOULD WE BLACK WOMEN USE THIS AS AN EXCUSE TO FIND A NONBLACK MAN TO MARRY?!! THE BLACK MAN DOES NOT LIKE IT, AND CRINGES WHEN HE HEARS OF ALL OF THE STEREOTYPES ABOUT HIS ASS!! JUST ADMIT THE TRUTH YOU WANT TO GO INTERRACIAL BECAUSE YOU MEN BUY INTO THE SLAVE MENTALITY THAT STATES….LIGHTER IS BETTER….BECAUSE YOU ENVY THE WHITE MAN AND WANT WHAT HE HAS….(ONLY THOUGH IT IS OBVIOUS THAT 9 OUT OF 10 TIMES THE WHITE WOMAN THE BLACK MEN HAVE ARE USUALLY THE DISCARDED ONES”……YOU’ALL DEFINITELY AINT’ GETTIN THE BARBIE TYPES! ANOTHER REASON WHY BLACK MEN GO INTERRACIAL IS TO HUMILIATE THE BLACK WOMAN IN FRONT OF THE WORLD BECAUSE HE IS HUMILIATED BY THE FACT THAT BLACK WOMEN ARE ECONOMICALLY AND EDUCATIONALLY AHEAD OF THE BLACK MAN….BUT LISTEN TO THIS BLACK MAN…EVERY OTHER RACE OF MEN, EVEN HISANIC MEN AND FOREIGN MEN ARE DOING BETTER THAN THE BLACK MAN….THIS IS A CURSE THAT THE BLACK MAN HAS PLACED ON HIS OWN HEAD!! SO PLEASE WITH THE STUPID ASS EXCUSE THAT BLACK WOMEN HAVE ATTITUDES….MOST OF YOU MEN SAYING THIS CHEATED ON THEIR WOMEN AND THE BLACK WOMAN DID NMOT TAKE THEIR S**T, OR THEY CANNOT MAKE FOOLS OUT OF THE BLACK WOMAN LIKE THEY COULD’ THE NONBLACK WOMAN! SO IN THE 50′S AND 60′S BLACK MEN DIDNOT HAVE THE ALTERNATIVE TO MARRY OUTSIDE OF THEIR RACE, THEY WERE NOT TALKING THIS NONSENSE!……OH SO WHAT HAPPENED BLACK MEN? WHAT A COINCIDENCE, NOW THAT YOU CAN INTERRACIAL, SUDDENLY BLACK WOMEN ARE UNDESIRABLE, AND HAVE A BAD ATTITUDE, I GUESS BLACK WOMEN DID NOT HAVE ATTITUDES IN THE 50′S AND 60′S…..PLEASE……..THIS IS OBVIOUSLY AN EXCUSE, AND IF THEY THINK WE LOOK BAD OR SHOULD BE EMBARASSED BY IT ALL…..IT IS THE BLACK MAN WHO IS BEING LAUGHED AT…………AND THE KKK IS GETTIMG THE BIGGEST LAUGH OF IT ALL SAYING, :”SEE WE WERE RIGHT, BLACK MEN WANT OUR WOMEN BECAUSE OURS IS BETTER THAN THEIRS…….AND WE ARE SUPERIOR TO THEM….SEE THEY KNOW THE WHITE RACE IS SUPERIOR!!

Preach!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And the TRUTHS shall set ‘em free! Tell it like it T “i” IS!

phazex_female, Why are you so loud? Seriously, I think you need to get some counseling to deal with those demons. Because reading your post, it’s apparent to me that you do have an attitude.

What a goofy way of asking this question

and phasex you can run but you can’t hide

I DON’T WANT TO SEE ANY MORE POSTS FROM YOU ON THIS TOPIC OR I WILL EXPOSE YOU FOR THE FRAUD YOU KNOW YOURSELF TO B

kRISSY121

I SEE YOU WALKING DOWN THE STREET WITH HARDLY NO CLOTHS ON

WHY DON’T YOU JUST GIVE THE MAN YOUR PRICES AND BE DONE WITH THE SHINANAGINS

ONE WOMAN ONE MAN IS A EURO CENTRIC SCHEME.

KINGS HAVE PRIDES AND ALL HIS QUEENS ROLL TOGETHER AS ONE SWORD.

GET USED TO IT

I’M BRINGING BLACK BACK

@ THE MONOPOLY BOYZ

CHOOSE WISELY

50% OF ALL MARRIAGES END IN DIVORCE WITHIN 7 YEARS

LET ME PUT IT THIS WAY

GET MARRIED AND WITHIN 7 YEARS YOU HAVE A 50% chance of loosing all you got

I’m not saying don’t get married just choose wisely and don’t restrict yourself to just a black woman let other races have an opportunity to be grieved as we are.

PEACE

Black Marriages are certainly NOT thriving or Lasting!

Forget all this, marry outside your race non-sense. I have been married, yes I did marry for ALL the wrong reasons, but I am going to find a good Nubian Princess and make her my Queen and you can keep you interracial bullshyt, that is what got us in the mess we are in now as a people!!

I think both genders now a days just really need to support one anotehr through marriage. For marriage is an institution that requires responsibility, committment, and effort for man and women. Yes, there are many factors that constribute to black marriage declning, however, one should make a effort to work on there marriage.

Thanks for the chance to voice my opinion!

Theres more to the story you have to calculate what type of marriage…
Interracial marriage last longer, in other words hate to say, but the marriage without the opinionated black female’s seem to last longer..

Stanford: 7 percent of couples interracial
Factoring in all racial combinations, Stanford University sociologist Michael Rosenfeld calculates that more than 7 percent of America’s 59 million married couples in 2005 were interracial, compared to less than 2 percent in 1970.

PrinceNova1 write as much as you like about black queens and kings and then sneakily telling us black men not to limit ourselves to only black women. What tangled web we weave when we practise to decieve.

what happen went your man or woman go with someone u know and get a baby this was your wife or husband how do u live with this we all have feeling we all hurt then we break up the out side person dont care they smile in your face like they didnt no wrong my daughter husband told her two week ago that he cheat on her with someone she know and got a baby this woman work at the same place both of them in the pass my daughter have done her and her sister tax and she not black but my sonlaw alway talking about what he would do now he want my daughter to forgive himshe want out she askme what to do cause i being there i told her to give it to god that hard i love my black brother but some of them dont have respect for the black sister ,but some of you sister dont have respect for your self and you know who you are some of you will do anything for money that why the white man use you the same with a black manwent he make money he look out racial what the woman do get a baby she set for life wake up put god frstlove our black sister and our black brother .love one other god bless

NOOOOOO BLACK ON BLACK MARRIAGE IS ALIVE AND VERY VERY WELL! All my male relatives are married with a black beautiful wife. Eventhough Ive only just turned 18 Im planning to ask my cute girlfriend to marry me after we both finish our studies!

josh, phaze, and nova, i agree with you guys 1000 percent ! my marriage instructor taught us last year that marriages fall apart within 5 years but asians had the highest marriage rate and the lowest rate for single asian women raising kids compared to black women had the highest rate as single parents and lowest marriage rate. so what it looked like is that : marrying a black woman is a NO NO or black women are Unwanted ? i was shocked and almost embarrass as i sat in class with so many people ‘ nonblack ‘ asking questions like WHY ? we went to the korean beauty supply that specializes in black haircare products yet they have only mexican women working their who normally cannot speak english and don’t have my hair type if you have questions about the products. my cousin and i was wondering: WHY YOU NEVER SEE KOREAN MEN WITH BLACK WOMEN SINCE WE ‘ BLACK’ WOMEN STAY IN THESE STORES BUYING PRODUCTS , ETC, ETC ? if you use the EXCUSE some Black men use for Dating, Marrying nonblack white like there are No black women at my job or school or in the clubs or sports bar or apartment /lofts where they live ???? that’s strange because i know mexican men who have went back to mexico to get wives/girlfriends and jewish families who hire matchmakers to find Jewish wives for their sons who are very Happy with the choices. yet black men have so many excuses. perfect example why i REFuse to watch Blair Underwood in that new tv show call EVents on NBC !!!

cannot remember where i read these stats but found wikipedia. black men married to white women is at 500,000 compared to black women married to white men is 130,000 . yet black men rates are increasing while black women marrying white men rates are decreasing ? so who is the Weakest Link in the black community ??? black men ! everybody is LAUGHing at us and all the way to the Bank ! a friend went to a upscale eatery with her cousins from atlanta who are all attractive black women in their mid 20s who sat alone without men at their table. my friend said a black guy ran to the bar to order a drink , when they watched to see where the bartender was going with the drink it was for a chubby, thin-haired white chick ! there were 3 white off duty cops at the bar who started chuckling and put their heads down ! if you compare the few black female stars who are with white men or nonblack men they dont look bad, are educated or accomplished. heidi klum was pregnant with naomi campbell ‘s billionaire italian boyfriend when she hooked up with Seal ?? kim kardashian is an Ultimate tramp who i don’t think a White boi would mess with her ? janet jackson has an arab billionaire boyfriend who is younger than she is, iman’s husband is well established- david bowie. even hallie berry’s baby dadddy (makes 1 million a year) is better looking than the average white woman i see with black men/celebs or athletes ! we need some Healing /Prayers for our Community and these black kids that are being made because they did not ask to come here . i notice that the kids with black dads normally look more black than the few kids with white dads, therefore these kids white moms are the ones who are forcing this multi-racial card when they have always been considered or seen as Black ! and , if you black guys are going to father kids with white women PLEASE Comb their hair or take them to a black hair salon to fix that MESS !!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interracial_marriage_in_the_United_States

@ALVINHAY

I REALLY DON’T KNOW WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT

STRONG MEN DON’T HAVE TO SNEAK WHISPER OR MUMBLE.

THE BLACK MAN SHOULD CONSIDER OPTIONS

THE KIND OF COURAGE WE NEED TO OVERCOME OUR OPPRESSORS TAKES A WHILE TO GROW

WHAT I AM SUGGESTING IS AN ALTERNATIVE WAY TO FIGHT

IF WE CAN’T KICK THEM OUT , BREED THEM OUT

DOES THAT SOUND LIKE I’M SNEAK’N TO YOU?

AND WHERE HAVE YOU SEEN ME WRITE ABOUT BLACK KINGS AND QUEENS?

WHERE?

WHERE?

I CAN’T HEAR YOU

WHERE?

THERE WILL BE NO LIARS IN HEAVEN

AS I GET A LITTLE OLDER AND A LITTLE WISER I HAVE COME TO KNOW, THAT THIS WORLD IS COMPLETELY DISINGENUOUS.

WE SAY THAT WE ALL BLEED THE SAME BLOOD, THAT WE ARE ALL CREATED EQUAL, THAT NOBODIES PERFECT AND THAT WE ALL, SHOULD GET ALONG.

BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY :

CAPITALISM

NATIONALISM

RACISM

SEXISM

TRIBALISM

POLITICAL ,PREJIDUCE, RELIGIOUSITY AND SO ON…

CHILDREN BEHAVING BADLY, TELLING NOTHING BUT LIES…

IT’S TIME FOR A GLOBAL CHECK

MAYBE A FLOOD OR TWO

A FIRESTORM OR A NUCLEAR MELDOWN

IT’S NOT JUST THE MAN IN THE MIRROR

IT’S THE WORLD IN A CESSPOOL

THIS IS NOT GOING TO END WELL

STAND AND DELIVER

SHOW LOVE OR LAY DOWN

THE END IS NEAR OR PERHAP YOU BELIEVE THAT WE CAN GO ON THIS WAY…

STOP THE WORLD

I WANT OFF

THIS IS NOT FLESH OF MY FLESH NOR BONE OF MY BONE

IT’S TIME FOR MY CHILDREN TO COME

HOME
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqxENMKaeCU

[...] Is Black on Black Marriage Dying? | News One [...]

If black marriages are dying, its because we promote its destruction.

We are the most self hating species on the planet, and our black media and entertainment venues are the front runners in promoting the destruction.

@ 1-LL

what they DON’T say is the marriage rates for ALL Americans — including whites — is the lowest it’s ever been
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but of course, when it comes to BM/BW relationships, this website ALWAYS focuses on the negative and never the positive
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if i didn’t know better (sic) I’d swear they’re waging a war on black male/female relationships.. trying to get us to turn on each other
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but of course, that can’t be true cause this is a “black” website and a “black” website wouldn’t want to destroy black male/female relatioships…
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would it?

Just a little food for thought for those who think marital “paradise” lies in the arms of another race:

According to Pew Research,

BM/WW marrriages are FOUR TIMES MORE LIKELY TO END IN DIVORCE than BW/WM and TWICE AS LIKELY TO END IN DIVORCE than WM/WW and are MORE LIKELY TO END IN DIVORCE than BM/BW marriages

what does that say about IR?

you decide

@ African S

brother, it seems BM are proud of airing BW’s “dirty laundry” and BW are almost as proud to air BM’s.

the reason i say “almost” is I don’t see BW doing it as much as we do — but to make up for that, racist white Hollywood and the showcase negroes (Tyler Perry and Oprah) who pander to negative black stereotypes will produce YET another movie bashing us BM

For Colored Girls

check it, white Hollywood SELDOM promote anything that shows BM and BW having loving relationships, so this new Tyler Perry flick (which i will not be seeing) will bash BM again by showing us in the worst possible light

and BM will get mad at BW (even though a BW did not make this flick) for showing another negative stereotype of BM to the world

Which begs the question:

how many BM will watch “For Colored Girls” and say “Hey, it makes BM look bad but there’s some truth to that movie” ???

bet u most of the BM who praised that video about BW because it had “some truth” will get pizzed off about this movie….

like u said, why are we so EAGER to bash each other PUBLICLY?

all races have relationship and marriage problems — big time — but they don’t go out of their way to tell black folks how fugged up they are….

it’s a strange mentality we have

@ cRAMMASTER

DIDN’T I SPANK YOUR A$$ FOR ABOUT A WEEK AND A HALF ON YOUR OWN WEBPAGE TILL YOUR ONLY RECOURSE WAS TO DELETE ME AS A FRIEND AND ALL MY COMMENTS.

WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING OUT THE CLOSET?

YOU HAVE A WEAK MIND A NO NUTS

NOW SHUT UP BEFORE I EXPOSES YOU FOR THE PUNK, FRAUD AND THE PART TIME BROAD THAT YOU KNOW YOU ARE

GET YA ASS BACK IN THE CLOSET AND BOW DOWN TO THE TRUTH BEFORE I HAVE TO HURT YOU.

SOLD ANY BOOKS LATELY

SHUT UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The bottom line is this; The Black woman has made herself multifericiously objectionable and in her haughty nature she refuses to acknowledge her dysfunction.

She receives no mercy from me for she offers none to her natural mate.

Add to that her sisters are often complacent in her dysfunction and cosign or justify the dominant public image of our women to their own social benefit.

To me this is the same thing as white people denying reparations ‘cause they personally were not involved in the slave trade but still reap the benefit of their ancestors demonic deeds.

I will not talk nice about this subject demonstrate compassion or understanding and if I am approached by any woman, man or child 8 to 80 blind, crippled or crazy with out the utmost respect and humility you can expect me to remove your head from your shoulders and toss it over the moon.

My people perish from lack of knowledge and have zero understanding concerning the law of mind, the law of body and the law of soul

There is a solution but it will not come from you

And that means

YOU`!

@ Icon-2010 who said, “Theres more to the story you have to calculate what type of marriage?Interracial marriage last longer, in other words hate to say, but the marriage without the opinionated black female?s seem to last longer….
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brother, actually that stats from Pew Research and other research my partners and I did for a chapter on IR marriages found just the opposite:
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BM/WW marrriages are FOUR TIMES MORE LIKELY TO END IN DIVORCE than BW/WM and
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TWICE AS LIKELY TO END IN DIVORCE than WM/WW
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and are MORE LIKELY TO END IN DIVORCE than BM/BW marriages
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hate to say this since I’m a BM but if we do the math, the common denominator in BM/WW and BM/BW marriages with high divorce rates is US — the BM.
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So, it appears it may not be the “opinionated BW” who can’t make a marriage work….

Ummmm…..wow

Looks like you got your friendly neighborhood stalker back on the rise @Crammasters….Keep speaking your message brother….WE got your back

@ Cali

staying on point, won’t be blowing up this thread with schoolyard pranks…

True to the testimony of P.T. Barnum a sucker is born every minute and apparently some of these suckers are born again and again and again.

Well let’s get started shall we.

His Masturby cRAMMASTER joined blackplanet in October 2009 he has several false profiles to give himself an illusion of support, but let’s not go there and stick with the matter at hand.

Rammaster prides himself as a writer which is probably why all his responses are so wordy. If you ask me it’s as if he’s trying to fatigue someone into agreement but once again I digress.

From October of last year to October of this year he blogged away but was practically having a conversation with himself and a few other individuals.

Trying to sell his book and gain a following he struggled to find a formula that would garnesh him a faithful and zealous fan club

A few months back he sent me a note requesting some advise on how to engage more bloggers on his page I sent him some advice but he didn’t use it and continued to flounder.

Then suddenly he stumbled upon two topics that will always get a few heads bobbing

Black women and racism

! In his role as cramster-save-a-hoe he has attracted a few more followers, but not many, such as phasex and califeme whatever.

Now here’s the thing.

About a month and a half ago I called him privately on his reverse racism and hoe justification.

The Black woman he speaks of does not exist.

Gone with the last generation.

Califeme jumped on the band wagon a couple months ago and started quoting a bunch of false statistics which of course I researched and responded to with true facts. She then attempted to wage a war of insults but didn’t have enough ammunition and when she became overwhelmed cramster-save-a-hoe deleted my comments from his page and blocked me as a friend.

Can’t stand the heat STAY THE HELL AWAY FROM NOVA

Now here he GOES again with the panty brigade talking about she got his back.

That’s not going to help you.

Here’s the link to the so called PEW interracial marriage research study.

http://pewsocialtrends.org/assets/pdf/755-marrying-out.pdf

If you see any statistics that support any part of his statement let me Know.

In fact it’s says that 1 out 0f 7 new marriages in America are interracial and the divorce rate is on the decline.

Now crammaster didn’t I tell you not to bite that apple OR put that dress on?

What does crammaster stand for anyway? Master turd burglar.

Get back in the closet missy and Stop following these silly woman.

By beholding you become

Sold any books lately

keep talk’n

Your credibility is headed toward ZERO

Return to your position as a black man and I will forgive you for your sins

Forever thy Guide, Deific Mirror
Keeper of the Flame and Eternal Bondsman

Prince Nova

P.S. I own you BOY, don’t Forget that.

@ Califeme 0

stalker

NEVER

You don’t own the internet, you crossed my path and as far as on the rise

I have to step down to even respond to you two degenerate miscreants.

You and Crammaster can put both of your brain cells together and it will still add up to -11

@AssholeNova, ‘Never a stalker”

Oh you aren’t? Then WHY are you on my ‘secret admirers’ list time and time again??? WHY have you saved and favorited THIRTEEN of my pictures, yet you claim to ‘hate’ me???
And you mention me in your long wind posts 4 or 5 times back to back….I know if you lived closer to me you’d be peeking through my windows bruh….Those that you can’t stand, you tend to leave them alone, you don’t mention them etc….Looky looky, I NEVER mention you nor direct any comments toward you because I can’t stand your insanity….Take notes dear…

@ ALL

my apologies — got my sources on IR divorce wrong — thought it came from Pew Research but that was my error — here’s the correction (thanks to Prince OUR BOOK will be even more accurate)

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Racial Intermarriage and Divorce in the United States

Bratter and King (2008) also find that White/White and Black/Black marriages have the same divorce rates. However, in their study, White wife/Black husband marriages have higher divorce rates and Black wife/White husband marriages have lower divorce rates than White/White marriages.

(see page 23)

http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:1NZ6fP5sycEJ:www.soc.utah.edu/~vfu/papers/divorce20090513.pdf+Racial+Intermarriage+and+Divorce+in+the+United+States&hl=en&gl=us&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESgsg_anWCuNVfEmd74Sa9OQEN7WZtSPTCjUN7arAX0rRC-WNO7HIjRRXMgqg8srvI1pX3WHrg2u4Sm4GsXW5vWXkTMJah2sg5h7ThANdWb4xxFjL-7RX2XS26WtCvXEHgR4zbxF&sig=AHIEtbTAjFoGvZef1XnEzvKrmOwpRmMswA

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Racial differences in marriage, on the other hand, correspond to higher divorce rates but mostly in marriages where the White spouse is female. NH Black husband/White wife marriages were twice as likely to divorce as White/White couples, and NH Asian husband/White wife couples were 59% more likely, according to Model II.

Highlighting the role of gender in interracial dynamics, the reverse combinations actually showed a lower or similar risk of divorce. White husband/NH Black wife couples were 44% less likely to divorce than White/White couples, and White husband/NH Asian wife couples were only 4% more likely to divorce by Year 10.

(see Page 9)

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1741-3729.2008.00491.x/pdf

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The likelihood of divorce for intermarriages is greatly affected by the type of interracial marriage.

• Marriages that do not cross a race barrier, but do have different ethnicities (i.e. white/Hispanic white) have a rate of divorce just a little higher than white/white marriages.

• Interracial marriages that have one white person and one person of another race mostly only show higher divorce rates when the white spouse is a female (i.e. white guy + other race girl don’t show particularly high divorce rates compared to same-race couples).

• Black husband/white wife marriages are twice as likely to divorce as white/white marriages, and Asian husband/white wife marriages are about 60% more likely to divorce as white/white marriages. Which, I suppose is an unfortunate statistic for Aditya and me (and one I didn’t expect at all)!

• White husband/black wife were nearly 50% less likely to divorce than white/white couples, and white husband/Asian wife couples had pretty much the same divorce rate as white/white couples

• Compared to Hispanic/Hispanic couples, Hispanic white/white couples showed a higher likelihood of divorce (not surprising). Likewise, Asian/white couples were more likely to divorce than Asian/Asian couples. However, black/white couples only show a higher rate of divorce compared to black/black couples if the white person in the relationship is a woman.

• The researchers were unable to evaluate other sorts of interracial marriages, such as black/Asian, because of the low number of such couples in the sample data.
http://gorigirl.com/interracial-divorce-in-the-u-s-statistics-and-how-much-they-matter

Califeme the last thing I want to do is pummel the proud ignorant.

Now I’m having mix emotions; cause I see that you are delusional and no one likes anyone that picks on the handicap.

But I’m not here to win friends and influence people.

But to set the record straight the only time I have mentioned your name in this blog thread is to point out that you and cram are deceiving many with false statistics and simi–eloquent vernacular.

How could you boldly make a statement that I mentioned your name 4 or 5 times when any intelligent reader can review personally what I have written and count your name only once.

More false statistics.

As far as a secret admire goes; strong men don’t keep secrets. We don’t whisper, mumble, hide or fake

If I were interested in you I would have told you.

Where is your captain save-a-hoe crammaster?

I saw his online icon symbol till late last night.

He still has no answer.

I guess he is following your advise and leaving me alone since he can’t stand me or stand next to me or stand up to me.

Hell he can’t even stand

He’s probably some where hiding behind your panties in you’re a$$ cheeks

Un ass that man; boy, chump or what ever he is.

Did I hear you say I have thirteen of your pictures.

I just looked at your page.

You don’t even have any pictures on it, other than your profile so where would I get thirteen mug shots of you.

Wow

Eve would turn over in her grave if she could hear how sloppy your game is.

Give me that apple before you hurt yourself.

What’s next

Put down that shovel and stop digg’n that hole

Silly rabbit

Tricks are for kids

Anyway the blog is about black marriages

THE DIGNITY OF THE HUMAN BEING REQUIRES THAT EVERY MAN, WOMAN AND CHILD ENJOY THE RIGHT TO ACT FREELY, YET RESPONSIBLY.

For this reason therefore in social relations each member of humanity should exercise freely this right fulfilling obligation of both freedom and responsibility in countless forms of collaborations with others; acting chiefly upon divine initiative and not that of our own making seeing that our creator hath designed us for eternity and everlasting life.

Why would we deviate from such a blueprint and submit to the external forces of our neighbor who is as capable as us of making pitiful decisions that bring about death.

The macro reality of humanity is that we are all neighbors and this world is our society created by us of our own free will as bequeathed to us by our own heavenly father.

Why should he remit from such a divine vision as freedom and punish us at every turn.

As a good parent we are required to allow our children the dignity of their own vision that they may learn first hand the end of their own ways.

My dear mother did for me what god has done for us.

She taught me to live without her and now I enjoy her company as a free agent of mine own free will and not that of what society deems proper custom; for any such society built upon the relation of force is by design inhumane seeing that we should bequeath to others that which hath been bequeathed to us.

Freely receive freely give.

Having said that I am not against you cali or cramm
I am against this world and the source of your social cues.

Look inside; their you will find all the answer of life
For inner space is infinitely closer to infinity than outer space

How do I know?

For god is great and I have looked for his majesty in this world and he has not been found for he has been removed by man of our own free will bequeath to us by his majesty himself; yet when I look inside, search knock and ask, he is always faithful to appear and sit for as long as I choose.

Live higher

I do

Join me

If I have said anything that has caused you to believe that I am here to promote confusion and hate please forgive me. We are all at fault so why does one say to the other one change or I will consider you not my equal.

I defend the black man because nobody is defending him and he has been left fatherless.

Yet it is written

“Enter not into the field of the fatherless for their god is mighty and he shall plead their cause”

Proverbs 22:22 and 23
Proverbs 23:10 and 11

Forever thy Guide, deific Mirror
Keeper of the flame and eternal bondsman

1 John 1:1-10

All the above

Prince Nova

PLEASE FORGIVE THE BELOW TYPOS.

I POSTED IT BEFORE EDITING AND NOW I SEE THAT I MENTIONED GOD BUT DID NOT CAPITALIZE HIS TITLE. IT WAS A MISTAKE. I HAVE MORE RESPECT FOR HIS MAJESTY THAN THAT.

PLEASE CONTINUE…

Until we as ” Black ” folk learn to admit the truth, we’ll never come to truth

Man’s Perspective

that video is true and happens all the time this is why black men are not marrying black women as they used to,its not that these attitudes can’t be changed,women can make changes and stop acting like this the withholding sex for favors,wanting to keep up with the Joneses,
wanting to bling bling all the time like a child…

wanting to wear the pants and boss the husband around and yes saying they follow the bible all but the parts that says they are not to act the way they do i believe God put certain things in the bible to test peoples faith and what they claim wives obey your husbands in everything means just that…

if you can’t submit to your husbands whom you see and live with everyday how can you possibly submit to God whom you’ve never seen? mentioning withholding sex as a weapon that is sinful and God speak against it, yet these very women who do this are sitting front row of the church amening,slowly working their way to the pulpit where they can continue their quest for power and usurping the authority of the man,as they have done in the homes.

yet, at the same-time claiming they obey the bible and that they love God…God said if you love me, you would do what i say, PERIOD….
if you love God you would submit to your husbands in everything,and he didn’t say submit only if they are doing this or that, thats not submitting,he said submit to the one who follows the bible and the one who doesn’t believe the bible at all PERIOD…

you don’t submit based on what you think the husband should or should not be doing, thats not submission Satan is very clever and he’s sowing seeds of pride and destroying marriages
by the thousands and he seems to be focused on the black families through the pride and arrogance of the black woman quote from poet

( “Does my haughtiness offend you?) it offends God
Don’t you take it awful hard
‘Cause I laugh like I’ve got gold mines
Diggin’ in my own back yard.

You may shoot me with your words,
You may cut me with your eyes,
You may kill me with your hatefulness,
But still, like air, I’ll rise.

Does my sexiness upset you?
Does it come as a surprise
That I dance like I’ve got diamonds
(At the meeting of my thighs?) >>>>> using sex as a weapon

there is a difference between the kind of pride that God hates (Proverbs 8:13) and the kind of pride we feel about a job well done. The kind of pride that stems from self-righteousness is sin, and God hates it because it is a hindrance to seeking Him. Psalm 10:4 explains that the proud are so consumed with themselves that their thoughts are far from God: “In his pride the wicked does not seek him; notice the poet says I rise I shall rise not giving glory to God for much of anything there we see the wicked and prideful do not seek God, in this context seeking God would be giving him the glory

the poet goes on to say >>>>Did you want to see me broken?
Bowed head and lowered eyes?
Shoulders falling down like teardrops.
Weakened by my soulful cries.

yes, its called humility this is exactly what God wants…

Psalm 51,
The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit; A broken and a contrite heart, O God, Thou wilt not despise”
David spoke of a broken and contrite heart. The word for “contrite” means
To be bowed down with the awareness of our spiritual bankruptcy.
That our inner spirit is crushed with a sense of its guilt.
That we have a genuine and deep sorrow for our rebellion against God and a determined desire to do differently.
A contrite heart
Does not seek to rationalize or explain or excuse or defend or justify sin.
Does not try to fool God or others or self. It recognizes that God demands truth and honesty.
Does not mean merely feeling bad or remorseful about sin!
Does not seek to blame circ**stances or other people or God for our own failure.
Remember Adam saying, “The woman YOU gave me handed me the fruit and I ate it. Eve pointed to the serpent and said, “He deceived me and I ate.” He blamed God and Eve, she blamed the serpent.
Can’t you just hear David doing something like that? Blaming God or blaming Bathsheba: “Lord, if you hadn’t made me king I wouldn’t have been walking on the palace roof in the first place. And besides, did you see what she wasn’t wearing?”
Maybe we do the same thing: “Well, Lord, if you were married to this jerk, you’d cheat too!” Or “It’s not my fault, the boss is so cheap I have to steal from the company to survive!” Or, “If I didn’t have such terrible neighbors, I wouldn’t lose my temper as much!”
A contrite heart recognizes that sin is:
A spiritual crime since it is a violation of God’s laws.
An offense against all that is decent and moral and right.
Rebellion, disobedience, and stubbornness of heart.
When we become aware of our sins, iniquities and transgressions, and are contrite, we need to know that
God isn’t interested in empty apologies.

lastly God says if my people who are called by MY NAME would humble themselves and pray then will i hear from heaven not before then but then will I HEAR from heaven and HEAL their LAND? this healing speaks of spiritual healing, healed marriages,healed families,and friendships,and mainly the healing of the relationship between man and God..
GOD BLESS

@ ICON 2010

Thank You for this thorough reminder of our divine responsibilities. I feel your tone is appropriate caring and sincere.

Many people today it seems care not at all for the truth and the very mention of God immediately engenders association of control, judgment and hypocrisy; But my father always told me, listen to the message and receive it by definition not by the attitude or presentation of the messenger, for one never knows through whom God may choose to speak.

We are not alone brother the silent masses of sober humanity wait on the lord and grow in spirit each day allowing patients to have it’s perfect work .

The Clock is ticking

The leaves are falling

The fall is coming

And there is a time and seasons for everything on earth.

I hear God Moving to his threshing floor.

I feel and see his spirit more and more each day

Early in the morning we join as one, striving with me doth He that He may see His reflection in my face and I in He as He in me even as He is in his Son, Emanuel the Christ, for God Is WITH US.

I am grateful today for I come from a long line of people to whom hatred is sacred; yet LOVE, TRUTH, PEACE, FREEDOM AND JUSTICE hath found my heart and to his Majesty Jehovah do I owe my allegiance; but I would NOT have thee ignorant thus sayeth the Lord…

And He said to them; when I sent you without purse and script and shoes lacked ye anything and they said; nothing.

…But now he that hath a purse let him take it and likewise his script and he that hath no sword let him sell his garment and buy one. ~ LUKE 22:35,36

The Days of turning the other cheek are drawing to an end.

Swords are not for Baking Painting or Typing they are for Planting, Sowing and Reaping.

Pretend you don’t hear the spirit if you want to but it is ALSO written “ it is better to fall on the rock than to have the rock fall on you.

God is no respecter of persons 8 to 80 blind crippled or crazy.

The wages of sin is death

I didn’t say that.

I’m just a messenger.

Peace Be with You

Forever thy Guide, Deific Mirror
Keeper of the Flame and Eternal Bondsman

Prince Nova

You’re very welcome PrinceNova1..lets continue to fight the good fight and hold up the truth we speak truth to power …
GB

lol he’s a fake preacher

Peace Diesel

Thank you for your support.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LU8DDYz68kM

@ ICON 2010

Thank You for this thorough reminder of our divine responsibilities. I feel your tone is appropriate caring and sincere.

you’re welcome Bro..peace

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