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Editor’s Note: This is the first installment of a two-part opinion series on Spike Lee’s criticisms of the film industry and Tyler Perry’s complicated relationship with black moviegoers. Tomorrow’s column will focus on why Terrell Jermaine Starr feels Tyler Perry should be a director all independent film makers should emulate.

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Part 1

I wasn’t even a teenager in 1992 when the film “X,” Spike Lee’s biopic of the late civil rights legend Malcolm X, hit theaters. But after watching it, I immediately became a fan of that young, Black pioneering director from Brooklyn. Not only did Lee’s directing of “X” enthrall me, the film indirectly influenced my fashion choices.

I, along with millions of Black men across the nation, copped an “X” baseball cap and a red, black, and green Africa medallion soon after viewing the film. (Yes, the early 1990s were also the days when “Troops” and “Filas” were the sneakers to have on your feet and kids were saving up money to buy a Luster’s S-curl kit.)

A reading of Alex Haley’s “Autobiography of Malcolm X” soon followed. I had never been so conscience about being a Black man, until I saw this landmark film. At the tender age of 12, Spike Lee had me self-assessing my Black male masculinity.

But now, at the age of 31, Spike Lee has me scratching my bald head.

How and when did he become such hater? And when did he stop making those gritty, Afro-centric grassroots films that “fought the power” and start complaining about his lack of it instead? His self-indulgent rants against Hollywood and unprovoked diatribes at fellow directors are becoming so common that I have to wonder if he is experiencing a midlife crisis.

During a Q&A about his new film, “Red Hook Summer,” at this year’s Sundance Film Festival, Chris Rock asked Lee, “What would you have done differently if you had gotten a bunch of studio money?”

It was a simple enough question that should have rendered a simple reply. Instead, Lee went on a profanity-laced tangent about how Hollywood doesn’t know anything about Black people. (He said “muthaf*cka” five times and “f*ck” once in the presence of young child actors.)

He sounded less like a sophisticated, avant-garde director and more like DMX. He embarrassed himself as well as those close to him: “My wife is looking at me like I’m crazy.”

Trust me, Spike, she wasn’t the only one.

This is not the first time Lee has pontificated less-than-constructive criticisms of the industry or his colleagues. Back in 1997, he complained about how inappropriate it was for Quentin Tarantino to use the N-word so often in his retro-Blaxploitation flick “Jackie Brown.”

(Isn’t it “muthaf*ckin’” ironic that he, of all people, lectured someone on inappropriate language?)

Samuel L. Jackson, one of the film’s stars, shot back at Lee saying, “I don’t think the word is offensive in the context of this film. … Black artists think they are the only ones allowed to use the word. Well, that’s bull. Jackie Brown is a wonderful homage to black exploitation films. This is a good film, and Spike hasn’t made one of those in a few years.”

He wasn’t lying about that. (Ironically, Tarantino played a small role in Lee’s 1996 film “Girl 6” and Jackson acted in several Spike Lee Joints. Brotha Spike has a penchant for burning bridges, doesn’t he?)

Even Clint Eastwood has been served a dose of Lee’s “hateration.” When Eastwood received rave reviews for his World War II film “Heros of Iwo Jima” several years ago, Lee went into hater mode again, criticizing the film for its dearth of Black faces. When Eastwood counted that his film dealt with a very specific group of soldiers and situation that reflected historical fact, Lee balked. In turn, Eastwood recommended that Lee “shut his face.”

It is becoming a common practice of Lee’s to make less-than-stellar films and then play the race card when no one supports them because he feels they should.

Take his first attempt at a war movie, “Miracle On St. Anna,” for example. Based off of a novel of the same name, Lee’s film focuses on the segregated 92nd Infantry Division, aka the Buffalo Soldiers, who mistakenly fight their way behind enemy lines during World War II. His attempts to capture the heroism of these Black soldiers via film were admirable; however, the film as a whole left much to be desired.

Instead of chalking up his poor box office showing as a learning experience, he ridiculed Black moviegoers for not supporting the movie and blamed them for preferring Tyler Perry’s “coonery” and “baffonery.” Lee’s mean-spirited analysis is perplexing, given that Perry’s business model and artistic taste toward film making epitomizes the anti-Hollywood mantra that defines Lee himself.

Perry ended up telling Lee to “go straight to hell.” But I don’t want him to do that.

I’d rather see Spike Lee stop being a bitter, old grandpa and start making those great, thought-provoking movies that made me want to “waaaaake uuuuuup!”

I want to see that daring, undauntedly aggressive director I remember from the late 1980s get his mojo back because the Spike Lee of today is failing miserably to direct or say “the right thang.”

Watch for Starr’s final installment of this opinion series titled, “Why We Should Celebrate, Not Playa Hate On Tyler Perry.”

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  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3KD3U2KZS3WVFGH6W5ZPOTDRAE TimH

    Spike Lee is an anti-White racist POS.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_6CT4FBTGA7N2T5KSCNOKYYMOOM whowantz2kno

    Sorry, I’m still rolling with Spike Lee on this one. The same people that ask him…”Why don’t you do it!”, are the same ones that probably have no idea how many films Spike has written that will never see the light of day because they don’t pass “hollywood accreditation”. That famous film “X”, took Lee 5 years to get on the big screen. Lee’s movies are intricate and they have always been cultivated to permeate the black mind in a way this world doesn’t want. TP talks about angry folks, baby mommas, baby daddys, hookers and church… Those of us who are AWARE, know exactly why it takes a man like Lee 5 years to get his projects up and running, as opposed to how Tyler Fairy can bang out movies back to back to back with no opposition….

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/freelancepimp/ freelancepimp

    Spike Lee has always been bitter and overrated. Spike is an attention w***e who can’t stand to see anyone else getting praise. That was evident when he casts himself in his own films and his constant attacks on anyone thats not him.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/SenorCafeDa2nd/ SenorCafeDa2nd

    More divide and conquer bullshyt, who’s going to be the next (overrated word) “Hater”. John Singleton

  • Anonymous

    It seems like he’s just frustrated. He’s obviously in a slump. Should he get creative again and start pumping out products again, his temperment would probably change. I like Mr. Lee. He was brave, innovative and one of the first black film makers to produce good black films. I will always love him for his work on Malcolm X. Hopefully, he’ll bounce back.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Frank-Atkins/599869607 Frank Atkins

    I will take a Hater Spike Lee any day of overvnarrow character minded Tyler Perry, Miricale at St Anna and RedTail have very similar story lines if you watch.. and the acting and was little better but i loved both.

  • http://thegrio.com uhuruhouston

    Ignorant wretch, Spike is the most important AA producer/director in this country and still is. As far as directors and writers casting themselves in their own movies, Steve King did it on a regular basis!!!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/babyboy119/ babyboy119

    and you sound like an anti black POS…

    so your even…

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/babyboy119/ babyboy119

    name one tyler perry film that was better or more powerful than “X”… dont worry i’ll wait…

    and please don’t say any medea movie…

    lets face it. the only reason TP is in hollywood cause he keeps putting on a dress.

    there would be no TP if it weren’t for spike lee. IMO

  • http://thegrio.com uhuruhouston

    Ignorant, Stockholm Syndrome negroes love to call people HATERS, another ghetto collaqialism, Spike Lee ventured out of that old slave mentality and actually got some of you idiots to think.

  • Anonymous

    Little to many know that in the beginning he went on a tour asking black folk to submit their movie scripts to him for consideration. He then took the good scripts change the settings title and out right stole them from unsuspecting authors without giving them credit for it.

    As Malcom X would say the chickens are coming home to roost for this sc** bag.

  • Anonymous

    Spike, ” Do The Right Thing”!
    Mokie

  • Anonymous

    Yes, we want to keep watching Perry films that make us look like crying emotional idiots, and leave men looking like abusive cheaters every time. It is the same redundant pattern from Perry, he needs to change his routine. He won’t, because that would mean Hollywood may not support him. I remember watching one of Perry’s movies and he had a black male actor who was a great role model in the beginning. Then he made the character smack the ish out of his wife toward the end of the film. Perry just love to have negative character, even if they start out to be positive, he can’t help himself. I still have Spike Lee’s back! With the right financial backing, he can still be the old Spike. Mr. Starr is out of touch with reality, Lee is being silence and he is voicing his opinion. If anyone is hating, sir it would be you. Take a seat.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Iwillbfree/ Iwillbfree

    Perhaps, if he starts writing some quality films instead of sitting at a basketball game, then we can give him some play, but what has he produced in the last 10 years that can compare with the movie Malcolm X, since 1992?

    CAN’T BLAME NOBODY, BUT HIMSELF!!!

  • SoultrySoul

    Say it got-dayum LOUD Sistah…Let’s All Be Black and PROUD!!!

    My problem with this author and so many others is, yes, they are young and was still in pull-ups when Spike was “Doing the Right Thing”…to the point that TP is all the new agers know and worship, run around screening and shouting his accolades of movies that gear toward the drama filled foolishness they’re accustom to.

    Now, just because Spike explained himself with some profanity … now they will call him crazy, and make every attempt to Black-list him for real. I just hope Chris Rock say something about this bull-shyt in his next stand up.

  • SoultrySoul

    Remember what Malcom said to the yt dizzy chick that asked him if she could help?

    LOL :) :) :) :) :) :)

    Now go ask all your BLACK friends or spend money and rent it. You gon learn today!!!

  • Anonymous

    Don’t respond to TimH, he’s merely a worthless troll. He posts on several black oriented websites. He’s probably some pathetic loser with no life and this is his sad way of creating human contact.

  • SoultrySoul

    Free, Brutha Spike did an outstanding job with the two HBO specials regarding Hurricane Katrina – powerful!!!

  • SoultrySoul

    Where’s your picture? That’s what I want to know…

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/2Queens11434/ 2Queens11434

    Spike can you look into making this book into a film:

    No Cause for Indictment: An Autopsy of Newark [Paperback]
    Ronald Porambo

    The story of Newark and the folks trying to take it over would make it a good film Spike And Ron Porambo’s story is tragic.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/smittyboy7/ smittyboy7

    There’s nothing wrong with that,i hate all you honky’s to!!!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/2Queens11434/ 2Queens11434

    When did he do this?

  • Anonymous

    Your brain only allows you to write in sound bites,your to stupid to write paragraphs,dumb bastard.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_6CT4FBTGA7N2T5KSCNOKYYMOOM whowantz2kno

    You nailed it! These young folk have no idea what they are talking about.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_6CT4FBTGA7N2T5KSCNOKYYMOOM whowantz2kno

    I doubt it…..IF that had been the case, you don’t think all those he ‘stole’ from wouldn’t have come hollering out the woodwork for their just due?? Man please, get outta here or provide the links, articles, news to support this slander you got goin on.

  • Anonymous

    EXCELLENT!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_6CT4FBTGA7N2T5KSCNOKYYMOOM whowantz2kno

    Wait, does that sound like THEE usual freelancepimp to you?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_6CT4FBTGA7N2T5KSCNOKYYMOOM whowantz2kno

    So wait, Tyler Perry doesn’t cast himself often times as 3 or 4 different characters as well? wow, I didnt expect this from YOU….

  • SoultrySoul

    Yes and NO…you know he’s on my friends list and that pic is missing as well.

    I think I read a while back where he pretty much said the samething as above…

  • Anonymous

    late 1980′s stole one synopsis, changed the setting from Louisiana to New York and titled it “Mo Better Blues” this part human stole every last point of the synopsis in the movie, he even had the characters cooking Louiisiana gumbo in a New York penthouse. The man is the sc** of all sc**s.

  • Anonymous

    The Weasel saw an opportunity!

  • Anonymous

    You as an author is the New Jack dumbed down Negro,started out as if you had some type of conscious sense when you saw the movie and read Malcolm X,now over the years you transform into a pro f****t,pro white movie where you have sellout coons like Sam Jackson playing the role of a gangsta Nigga,( just one of his degrading roles),and use to be pro Black Pam Grier who use to be militant in movies back when Black people had some Black pride and consciousness falling in love with a white cop in the end of the movie.Weak Negros like you disgust me,no solid mind or foundation,always changing like a man to a women,know wonder most of you are pro Gay and pro white supremacy,go join Tyler Perry and put on a dress,maybe that white boy Tarantino might give you and the rest of those Hollywood Coons a role in his thrash movies that show on the world stage how slave minded and stupid we have become.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_6CT4FBTGA7N2T5KSCNOKYYMOOM whowantz2kno

    Ohhhhhh ok, well…..damn. O_O………..

  • Anonymous

    late 1980′s stole one synopsis, changed the setting from Louisiana to New York and titled it “Mo Better Blues” this part human stole every last point of the synopsis in the movie, he even had the characters cooking Louiisiana gumbo in a New York penthouse. The man is the sc** of all sc**s.

  • Anonymous

    When you see ask him where the F**K he got “Mo Better Blues From” since you know so much about slander!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/courtneyR/ courtneyR

    I like spike.their has always been something authentic about him and his work…all of his work.even the son of sam..do the right thing ,masterpiece..jungle fever.this man never got the due he deserved..Malcolm x should of won an oscar for sure.miracle at st anna was a good movie.his doc**entary on new orleans ,telling the truth when no one else would or did.outstanding. I would be a bit upset myself for being black listed for not being politically correct.spike lee is a national treasure and he derserves more respect and understanding and support.

    I will say about this article this, I do hope spike gets back to producing great work.like when he was younger.maybe tyler perry would like to fund a massive project and work together with this legend called spike lee. after all, mr perry should be thanking him for being as authentic as spike was and is.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_E7SPDKIOBQG3CVAX5SPRG7WY7M devon

    ok here is the prob with Spike,when we supporting Lee he wasn’t supporting US,$30 for and X hat?!? he was trying 2 make money on the same backs he claims he is trying 2 lift up,movie wise Spike lee is 1 of the most gifted directors but lets keep it 100 if he isn’t using Denzel Washington in his movies who is seeing them.some how some where Spike has become that uncle that we all know and love until he opens his mouth then we wish he would shut up…now lets get to the TP,Lee comparisons they are two different directors with different styles now let leave that alone for now

  • Anonymous

    What does “yt” mean?

  • marilynsue

    Barbara Grizzuti Harrison wrote a very funny article called “Spike Lee Hates Your Cracker Ass.” Of course, she seemed to be puzzled that he didn’t love white girls automatically. He is a cranky dude.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_6CT4FBTGA7N2T5KSCNOKYYMOOM whowantz2kno

    “You’re Trash”= YT….get it?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_6CT4FBTGA7N2T5KSCNOKYYMOOM whowantz2kno

    Dude no need to curse, that doesn’t change my mind…..I reiterate, show the links, news link, old article, court case, infringement rights claim etc…..Just show proof….Simple…

    Better yet, what makes you think the person that you claim originally wrote the foundation for ‘mo better blues’, didn’t already receive a hefty compensation from Lee anyway? Again, as famous and BLACK as Spike Lee is, anyone who had a chance to sponge some doe out of him would have long tried by now. IJS

  • Anonymous

    Spike has always been a bitter person it seems to me. Also too many of his movies were duds. It is not a matter of having enough money either.If you compare the budgets of some of the French new wave filmmakers, like Goddard, and Truffaut, the made amazing films with low budgets…Tyler Perry, while not my cup of tea, is obviously a much better businessman than Spike.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/jazzwatch/ jazzwatch

    Hater of WHAT???? Just because he spoke HIS mind and HITS IT about the WAY the movie industry is? The way they IGNORE Blacks, the way they would LIE about it????? The way Pery makes HIS films…….

    I’m hoping he could make some MORE movies, get the supports he deserves, box office acclaim, and the haters can STFU!!!!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/jazzwatch/ jazzwatch

    hell, I take Robert Townsend films ….at least didn’t wear ANY dresses ;)…..

  • SimplyComplex_87

    Freelance isn’t completely anti-Tyler Perry. i’m surprised your dick slurping thirsty ass hasn’t picked up on that by now! lol

  • SimplyComplex_87

    a large portion (if not the majority) of TP supporters are middle-aged and elderly black women. there’s a lot of young folk who know better than to support that fool (i’ve witnessed firsthand a number of my peers criticize his work).

  • Anonymous

    Why would I be interested in changing the mind of a nobody, Please explain. LOL

  • Anonymous

    Hey now…The Five Heartbeats was classic!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_65MHCOJ5WFX2ZUX242QQU2WU4U homie

    I will always like spike, but most aren’t comfortable
    around HONESTY. I wouldn’t talk bad about others
    though ( keep ya thoughts to yourself ).

  • http://twitter.com/EbonyCali Ebony

    I still like Spike Lee.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Iwillbfree/ Iwillbfree

    Sister Soultry: I’m speaking about the BIG SCREEN, not the small screen! It’s time to THINK BIG and DO BIG, all of this pitty pat bulls**t should go on the back burner!

  • Anonymous

    Terrell, Really? With a straight face you say you like the “negroes are funny” movies of Tyler Perry as compared to Spike Lee’s body of work? Other than Inside Job (which was great) and Miracle at St Anna most of Spike’s work product for the past 5-6 years has consisted of doc**entaries and shorts. I guess you didn’t appreciate his treatment of the plight of New Orleans after the hurricane. Was it as funny as a sassy fat black woman played by a man in drag? Guess not yuck yuck. The fact remains: Hollywood is not supportive of substantive movies about black americans. Ask George Lucas what he thinks about the subject. if you read/knew your american history, you know nothing changes unless somebody makes a fuss. Spike, keep speaking your mind. Keep bringing the truth because Tyler is in the closet…

  • Anonymous

    Lol. Im 32 and “DO THE RIGHT THING” is still one of my all time favorites. Along with “X”. Im with Give me Spike over Tyler Perry all day everyday.

  • Anonymous

    ” DO THE RIGHT THING” “X” are both classic movies. where is TYLER PERRY’S CLASSIC WORK?

  • Anonymous

    I think that ONE reason Spike hasn’t been very successful is because of timing. Since 911, times have been hard, most people have lost a lot, most of us have been miserable at one point or another and when people see a movie, they generally don’t want to see something as serious and/or though-provoking as Spike Lee’s films. Most people want an escape or a happy ending.

  • Anonymous

    “Nights like this”….

  • Anonymous

    Whitey

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1494161304 Derrick Williams

    This posting is full of bulls**t .. Who ever wrote this articles is a fool.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JH5ASYZ3HCR6HZ6Z62M5CCRENI truthseeker

    no POS but me, too. can’t stand that devil.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/jazzwatch/ jazzwatch

    For a guy like Spike to speak HIS mind and not conform to OTHERS, I cannot hate…I APPRECIATE ;)……

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/ProBlackfist/ ProBlackfist

    Overall,I agree with Spike Lee about the coon,homo type movies that tyler (scarry)perry makes.
    I don’t even watch such BS.Why would I a real black man want to watch some silly movie with some black man hollering and screaming.It’s the same BS role that chris tucker played in the clown movie 5th element.He was basically a gay buck wheat with a dress on and nappy head. I wonder why do real black people even watch such demeaning,sell-out trash.Basically tyler scarry is doing the same thing the white man has done and that is pimp ignorance and coonism. A vast % of black’s seem to think this type of BS is such a great way to get paid and be successful.Then if anybody say’s anything about such slave type ignorance somebody will say ” oh you hating “.
    Since this hating BS has come out a vast % of black’s have been put on the defensive when it comes to calling out ignorance for what it is really is.If anybody who is hating is tyler scarry for even making such racist,twisted coonism type trash as so-called entertainment.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/ProBlackfist/ ProBlackfist

    y t means ?? say it real fast y t, y t, y t, y t just like Fred Sanford you say on the show okay

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Shariese-Hurd/100001852350588 Shariese Hurd

    So he has opinions. I hear alot of people saying worst. He is entitled to an opinion. This shouldn’t even be an atricle.

  • moonrose4me

    “Lee’s movies are intricate and they have always been cultivated to permeate the black mind in a way this world doesn’t want. TP talks about angry folks, baby mommas, baby daddys, hookers and church…”
    ——————————————————
    I couldn’t have said that any better!

    Spike gave us a more realistic and raw view of the black community. Something Hollywood doesn’t want us to see. I miss films like Do The Right Thing, Love Jones, Eve’s Bayou, School Daze, Love & Basketball, Malcolm X also Mandingo was a pretty ballsy film about slavery and the treatment of black folks that will never see the light of day again on tv.

  • moonrose4me

    You ain’t lyin!!!

  • moonrose4me

    I love Robert Townsend.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Kevin-Buckner/100000116993088 Kevin Buckner

    She’s Gotta Have It, School Daze, Do The Right Thing, Mo’ Better Blues, Jungle Fever, Get On The Bus, 4 Little Girls, Bamboozled, When The Levees Broke, etc….Spike’s work speaks for itself, even if he sometimes comes off as an eccentric. Starr calls his rants ‘haterism’, I call them ‘realism’. “Miracle…” didn’t get nearly the pub that “Red Wings” has gotten, that’s Spike’s fault? Pleeze…

    Starr wants to advocate for TP? That’s his right, but anyone with half a brain cell would never confuse their work, or their audiences. It’s like comparing a double shot of 18 year old single malt scotch with a cup of Boone’s Farm…Tyler Perry can’t show me nothin’. I’m not into men wearing dresses playing gun-toting, ignorant old women, stirring up drama with my woman, and treating everything in my life like a sitcom/soap opera. ‘Amos and Andy’ went off in the ’50′s. ‘Flip Wilson’ in the ’70′s. Been there, done that.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Arthur-Clark/100000610136790 Arthur Clark

    I’M WIT U ……

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Arthur-Clark/100000610136790 Arthur Clark

    NAME ONE GOOD TYLER PERRY MOVIE…..

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/ThatzLife/ ThatzLife

    Hey, Spike makes all great points. You are HATING ON SPIKE! You tried to make all of his comments seem like hater comments , but they all were on point! Q. Terrantino does make the Blacks in his movie use the N-word excessively, and that is odd that a white writer does this. Im glad Spike had the nuts to point it out. YOU would sit and be quiet on it ehh? smh…
    Next, his point about US preferring Tyler comedies to a history lesson, is simply true and a good criticism. Why are YOU hating on the truth???
    Eastwood of course left out the brothas contribution in his movie and Spike pointed it out. Im glad Spike stands up since you and other brothas don’t want to make any waves with the white man! smh…
    Now one thing I disagree with is his attach on Tyler Perry in general. THAT is hating.
    So that’s ONE thing he is hating on. The rest are just real observations that most uncle Toms would be scared to mention.
    Spike Stop Hating on Tyler. And YOU quit hating on SPIKE! You are the bigger hater, because 90% of what you pointed out was NOT Spike hating. It was him having legitimate points!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/ThatzLife/ ThatzLife

    PREACH!!!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/ThatzLife/ ThatzLife

    Tell it like it is!!!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/ThatzLife/ ThatzLife

    exactly! this author was Hating more than what he said Spike was doing! smh!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/freelancepimp/ freelancepimp

    Yeah its me and as much as I luv yall we are not going to agree on everything (which is actually healthy in a relationship.) I hope that I don’t lose live just cause I am not a spike lee fan.
    Spike lee has alwasy been angry and bitter. Spike lee is a medicore to subpar director who relies on interesting subject matter and more often than not uses racism as a crutch to carry his stories alone. Malcom X was great depsite spike lee becuase of the source material. He almost ruined it IMO! Denzel as Maclom X: that was gold right there. Spike was just along for the ride. Spike talents does lie in getting things done and would be better served as producer helping black movies get made, but his ego is too big to work from behinds the scenes.
    And of all the white people he can attack he is going to attack Clint Eastwood. Seriously! Maybe I don’t know enough about Clint Eastwood but when it comes to racism in hollywood there is much worse people to go at than Clint Eastwood. And Tarantino uses nygga cause white folks use nygga when aint no nyggas around, Eepecially the type of gangsters and thugs he usually portrays.
    Spike lee is jealous hearted bitter and a horrible actor with the dryest delivery ever. Dude sounds like he’s reading and he has the nerve to cast himself next to greats like Denzel. “Please baby baby baby please;” are you people serious?
    I am not going to say I have enever been entertained by one of his movies. School Days dealt with a subject matter that black people rarely discuss but been around for generations. We even see it now. It was interesting and fresh if a little low budget (but that wasn’t his fault.) But he hammed it up in that. One of his Best movies, IMO, was inside man but that was still due to his cast of actors and pretty interesting story. He still manage to put his silly outdated touches on that.
    Spike Lee is alwasy going around trying to create nygga moments (boondocks reference) and aint nobody else trying to entertain him.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/freelancepimp/ freelancepimp

    I’m not the biggest Tyler Perry fan. I’d be lying if I said I have never seen any of his movies or been entertained by some. I just don’t see what was so bad about “why did I get married.” I am not saying it was the greatest movie ever made but it dealt with subject matter that a number of people can relate too. Tyler Perry is not that detrimental to black people and if you look at his movies in a chronological order you can see they have grown, some.

    And Tyler Perry is a better actor than spike (which aint saying much.) Considering the subject matter and the stories being told Tyler doesn’t hurt his movies as much when he cast himself. No one takes Tyler’s movies serious anyway.
    Do I think madea is stupid; Of course! I can’t f**king stand Madea. Madea is the glue that hold her family together She is the foundation and the cornerstone. She is the defender and protector. She will go to jail behind her family. The problem is she is man pretending to be woman who acts like a man. HOW F**KED UP IS THAT, that so many blacks claim to relate to her!? In order to get black folks to relate and portray those qualities, now mind you black folks are the ones who made tyler rich and famous, he had to dress up like and old woman. There’s truth in parody, and thats why many black folk are embarressed by madea. I can’t say I’ve seen every tyler perry movie and unless I am at like a fmily event and Madea is on I usually run the other way, If I am dating someone she can go see them damn plays with a girlfriend if she want to see them that bad, but can say that I have seen some growth in tyler perry movies.

    As far as Tyler and Spike. I have my opinon of spike goes. They are two totally different type of directors and I don’t see why we have to pit them against one another. We shouldn’t have to choose sides amongst ourselves.

  • http://thegrio.com uhuruhouston

    Oc ourse he’s a better business man, espeically with the help of Ted Turner. You negritos kill me with that bullshyt like Perry just did everything by himself, what a bunch of cretins.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/babyboy119/ babyboy119

    “I CAN SANG!!! DUCK….I STILL GOT IT…” i remember saying that at the bus stop every morning cause the crossing guard looked like eddie cane… LOL!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/S6IWMACYPIRBAUSNQ5SUDVFMCI Lesia

    Spike Lee has definitely paved the way for TP. But, like Simply Complex pointed out, their supporters are different, as, we are different. However, they are both accomplished, well know writers for a reason. When GOD gives you a gift, HE will make room for it. You don’t hear Steven Spielberg and George Lucas blasting each other, and NOT all of their movies are great. And, they probably have opinions about each other that “we” may never hear. SL and TP can probably open more doors for others, if they stop closing them on each other. SL needs stop putting everybody under attack (I mean, we get it), and TP needs to stop entertaining it if it continues. Because at the end of the day, we all look bad.

  • SoultrySoul

    Com’on ProBlackFist…don’t start feeding the enemy. LOL!!!

  • SoultrySoul

    And you see…my people are feeding the enemy! We don’t know who “pavmark427″ is…

  • SoultrySoul

    Huh?

  • SoultrySoul

    Sweetie…you owe me no explanation. We kool and the Gang!

    I just want to know where’s your picture!!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/kareema.littlejohn Kareema Littlejohn

    oooh love it!!!!!! took the words out of my mouth

  • SoultrySoul

    I got thrown by this author…and went on a crusade – - it happens! There’s such a dynamic changed in producing and directing today than it was back in day of “She’s Gotta Have It”, “Do the Right Thing” and “School Daze”…especially when money is low – but I applaud Spike for giving it to us.

  • SoultrySoul

    You’re 32 y o …:) that’s cute, just a baby – LOL!…

    I’m feelin you…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_6CT4FBTGA7N2T5KSCNOKYYMOOM whowantz2kno

    Precisely….People are still talking about “X” and here it is, 20 years later? I doubt anyone will be singing the praises and message of “Madea’s family reunion”, long off in year 2030! lol

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/jake_destroyer/ jake_destroyer

    @Terrell Starr: Just because Brother Spike has provided our community with a critique of Perry doesn’t equate to him “playa hatin” on Perry or movie goers who support Perry. In the final analysis, Spike is challenging each of Us to evolve beyond the mere supporting of black exploitation films that solely serve to perpetuate black stereotypes. A true supporter of Lee’s artistry will understand this and place into its proper context rather than viewing Spike as a mere “bitter old grandpa.” Truth be told, Spike has achieved enough in one lifetime whether or not another person of Afrikan descent supports his work or not. Spike’s commentary should be perceived as an indictment of Hollywood, whose legacy has and continues to be providing caricatures of the Black/Afrikan experience. Nonetheless, i suggest that BP solicit contributions from writers, bloggers, etc., who can provide a better balanced analysis, than this claptrap – shallow commentary that merely serves to divide our people, while performing the bidding of the proponents of white supremacy.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_6CT4FBTGA7N2T5KSCNOKYYMOOM whowantz2kno

    Ummm, you responded what? 4 or 5 times? Yeahhhh, why are you responding to a nobody and answering a nobody’s questions?

    Contradiction much?? lol

  • Anonymous

    Sorry I just realized it.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/jake_destroyer/ jake_destroyer

    @Terrell Starr: Just because Brother Spike has provided our community with a critique of Perry doesn’t equate to him “playa hatin” on Perry or movie goers who support Perry. In the final analysis, Spike is challenging each of Us to evolve beyond the mere supporting of black exploitation films that solely serve to perpetuate black stereotypes. A true supporter of Lee’s artistry will understand this and place into its proper context rather than viewing Spike as a mere “bitter old grandpa.” Truth be told, Spike has achieved enough in one lifetime whether or not another person of Afrikan descent supports his work or not. Spike’s commentary should be perceived as an indictment of Hollywood, whose legacy has and continues to be providing caricatures of the Black/Afrikan experience. Nonetheless, i suggest that BP solicit contributions from writers, bloggers, etc., who can provide a better balanced analysis, than this claptrap – shallow commentary that merely serves to divide our people, while performing the bidding of the proponents of white supremacy.

    PS: i’m 32 and grew up on every single Spike Lee classic. Age doesn’t determine insight. Achieving greater understanding and evolving will assist you in appreciating Spike’s contributions to the art and culture. That said, get smart, not mad!

  • SimplyComplex_87

    i remember watching Do The Right Thing and School Daze in the college dorms with my peers. lots of young people still appreciate classic films…not all of us are brain dead like the nuts we see in the media, so it’s sort of tragic when older people categorize us ALL as such (when in actuality, a lot of older folk have their own issues they need to worry about).

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/J_aheim/ J_aheim

    I strongly disagree with this article, matter of fact it’s full of s**t. Whebn did speaking thr truth become being a hater? anyway, y’all can call it what you want but the truth is the truth. And I don’t know no realer cat in the black movie indutry than Spike Lee. He mastered this game and he should get credit for his hard work and I personally don’t think he got enuff credit for his work, so I understand why he lashes out at the industry. Tyler perry is OK but let’s be real he doesn’t do nothing to enlighten the black community in no way, I mean a bit of comedy is good once in a while but can’t he actually mix in that satire with some actual original people-can-relate-to drama?

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/J_aheim/ J_aheim

    Plus I can dig his criticism about that movie where Quentin tarantino uses the n word, it’s b.s. And it’s not just that movie, Fat Joe also uses the n word in some movie too. That ain’t right imo

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/J_aheim/ J_aheim

    s**t I’m in my early 20′s myself and Crooklyn is one of my fav movies today

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/J_aheim/ J_aheim

    and you would know cos you a racist anti-black fool yourself, get to steppin cos this site ain’t for you obviously

  • http://twitter.com/pblkbrothers Positive Brothers

    I come from the Spike generation and I like the statement that Spike takes his time to actually PRODUCE his movies. Where as Tyler Perry simply MANUFACTURERS his.

    What happened to “for better or worse?”

  • http://twitter.com/pblkbrothers Positive Brothers

    Spike Lee is/was like Gladys Knight, Old Whitney, Patty, etc., whereas TP is more like Beyonce, Gaga, etc. – Gladys/Patty/Old Whitney are singers(must be heard), Beyonce, Gaga, etc. are entertainers (must be seen)

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/babyboy119/ babyboy119

    TP just appeals to two groups, women and church folk. don’t matter what movie of his you watch. yeah he may have a black cast but as far as uplifting blacks as a whole. no, reason i say that is the black women in his movies are either extremely ghetto and back stabbing, or weak minded woman that get trampled over. the men are either arrogant p***ks or super soft and let the woman do anything they want. by the end, the weak find strength and the ending is happy for all.

    spike appeals to black people and the culture that we stand for. when you leave a spike movie you not only feel good about the movie but your proud to be represented by someone who puts the characters in everyday, normal ppl situations. like do the right thing was my s**t when i was younger, and X made me feel that black is the thing to be. i felt proud not only for someone to tell the story of malcolm little the way it is. but what he stood for to be shown to a world wide audience. that was uplifting. and miricle at st anna was just a good ass movie. but it showed what white ppl couldn’t see. blacks aren’t subpar to ANY race in any way.that’s something that TP just cant do. to be honest, mo better blues showed me humility when i played in the band cause one day your on top, then the very next day your trying to get ppl to remember you.

    simply put, tp speaks about the black household in a way

    spike takes on the vision of black ppl as a whole and he isn’t afraid to tell white ppl that what they are doing to our culture is insulting.

    spike isn’t a hater, he’s a passionate innovator of black film making. and he knows how the jews in hollywood think of black ppl. somebody gotta set the record straight and be real. too many house niggas in hollywood….

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/babyboy119/ babyboy119

    thanks for the heads up.

  • Anonymous

    Team Spike Lee here his movies has substance, they’re not clownish or buffoonery. That s**t always sells because it plays into what to many folks believe about Black people, sadly even some Black folks themselves. I applaud Spike for calling out,challenging and chastising Hollywood, his critics may complain but they don’t say he’s wrong because he’s not.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XS47VDTC2Q6OW6ZLJM6ZQA5QSI backatcha

    Azzholes come in all colors.

  • Anonymous

    Tyler’s plays originally were like comedic medicine for me and other Black women who were going through traumas and needed to laugh. Dealing with stink people from Europe (not all are just some of the ones I worked with) and being able to chuckle at the part of the play (not the movie) Diary of a Mad Black Woman where Medea says “Peace was made of steel” and then goes on to say “the boss is on your case, and you know you doing yo’ job…pull it out, put it on the desk and there will be..[peace!] but instead of saying it the music talks instead has helped keep me from going upside the head of one particular white woman I worked with. Medea has saved some lives in the corporate world and me from jaaaiillll!

    I like Spike. Was in my college days when Do The Right Thing came out and was there, front and center on opening day, stuck in the front of the theater. I always supported Spike but he’s got to understand that his movies are not comfortable ones. They are edgy and leave you uncomfortable. He’s the polar opposite of Tyler who is more of a healer, at least in the beginning.

    Personally, I’m interested in seeing our filmmakers put stories on screens in a network of successful Black theaters where the actual theaters and the films cater to us and ALL the profits come to our communities instead of millions to Whites who have enough of Everything.

    It’s not just about our stories being told but it’s also the way we watch them. I like the raucous way we carry on in the theater. Sometimes the audience is more fun than the movie. Connecting with other people over certain scenes just feels good. Watching Precious in an audience full of White folks was a bit trying on my nerves. I don’t know about others and I’m sure there’s a multitude of scenes but I just want to be a bit selfish about our stories and I don’t want them catered to other audiences, or give outsiders breaks that they’d never give us (Latina in the movie “Medea goes to jail” and even Jim Carey in “In Living Color”.

    Never deny the power of our stories, our comedy or depictions of us bonding. From the sitcom “Living Single” the jealous eyes of White folks would watch and then be inspired to do their versions now known as “Friends” and “Sex and the City”. Both of those shows would depict a New York City so White it’s as though in their world we never existed when in fact we were here building the place up from New Amsterdam days when the Dutch had it.

    So jealous they would be that we’re being pushed out of the very brownstones in Brooklyn that the girls from Living Single lived in almost as though it’s some sort of vendetta. How dare we have a good time just being us and not include them. They’re so used to being catered to that it boggles their minds that we may not need their approval to laugh, cry, bond. Biggest insult of all was to see Latifah not bother to come to the show’s reunion. Young girls watch that show now and can’t take their eyes off and they weren’t even born when it was made. Will never forgive Latifah for that one.

    This intimidation over us bonding whether it’s in real life or on screen harkens back to our history of slave uprisings and that fear that if we get together we’re gonna overthrow the powers that be. I’ve also seen this fear come from Latino/Hispanics listening to me and another Black co-worker talk about mutual Native Indian ancestry. I’ve seen the fear of Whites and even Asians eying us in fear of what we might be talking about. They’d just stop and watch or come up and interrupt as though they had to break up the group.

    So, I really wish that some of us with the money and the know how put up our stories about us, for us and by us in our own theaters because I’m sick of sharing. Becoming part of the mainstream is highly overrated and a bit boring.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Cool_Gee_Rap/ Cool_Gee_Rap

    Good go with the young brotha on this one y’all. I don’t totally agree with Tyler Perry’s movies but I can’t hate on the brotha either. The fact is, there are always differing opinions among black people (Malcolm v. Martin, DuBois v. Washington, Nationalist v. Civil Rights) but for Spike to go after Tyler Perry is ridiculous. There is something for everyone in both of their works but you need to make the choice for yourself as to what you choose to watch. With the proliferation of Basketball Wifes, Housewives, and Love and Hip Hop, I would think that many of you would want to look at that more critically than Tyler Perry. We need to face one real fact, THE NATIONALIST LOST! The spirit of Huey Newton, Marcus Garvey, H. Rap Brown and others is dead and we allowed it to happen. Why do HBCU’s produce more Uncle Toms than majority White Schools (see Herman Cain). The Miracle at St. Anna was a good movie but Spike has been few and far between with his releases. Maybe it does take longer for Spike to produce a movie but when he does, it needs to be good. How many independent black films have been given grassroots marketing (Sankofa) and succeeded? Many I believe. For those who long for the past, study your history of how black people weren’t allowed in Hollywood and we made our own movie. Integration hurt us tremendously and has many of us begging white people for a seat at the table. I’m a child of the 70′s and I feel that those Black Power brothas and sistas failed us. They marched on Washington and all they got was sore feet. We do have a few crumbs here and there but it is nowhere near the dream that either Malcolm X or Martin Luther King Jr. had for us. Collectively we need to hold each other accountable starting in our own homes! Ask yourself everyday, “how did I make my community better today?” Be the change you want to be. Let’s not get on this brotha for disagreeing with Spike Lee without educating him on why you think his argument is falacious. Let’s disagree without being disagreeable. Educate with love and not hate. I know this sounds like I am a Black Conservative but I feel I embody the real spirit of the Nationalist movement: self empowerment!! I welcome any response you may have, even if you disagree. Please be clear with your argument and don’t argue for argument sake.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/courtneyR/ courtneyR

    The mayor. ozzie davis. :)

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Cool_Gee_Rap/ Cool_Gee_Rap

    I don’t think I would go as far as saying he is a POS but I will say that you do have a point saying that he comes off as a hater. I don’t say he is a racist because I feel black people cannot be racist. Prejudice yes, racist no. Racism has a power element to it that black people do not possess as a group.

  • Anonymous

    No kidding. Everyone over the age of ten knows that no one achieves great success without the aid of others

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_RUMQ46PNNQU4VG2YAIQIROBL7A MelindaM

    I liked Mircle at St. Ana. Some of those young black actors in that film have done well in televison and film since making that film. Spike has made a few films that I enjoyed.
    I think he needs to calm down with some of the rhetoric. Disrespecting other film directors is not the best way to get a point across. He has a right to his opinion but that’s all it is, an opinion not fact. That argument with Clint Eastwood didn’t make any sense. All that criticism of Tyler Perry is tired. Spike needs to take all that energy and put into making a good film.

  • Michael Sanchez

    Sorry wrong website I thought this was white planet. oh that sounds racist…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AJ5J26PLJOEL3T3KAL3RFTAMBE Gloria

    Spike Lee should make up his mind about what he wants to be; a director or a film critic. It is in such poor taste for him to criticize any other director’s work. If he doesn’t like the kinds of movies Tyler Perry or anyone else makes, then he shouldn’t go to see any of them. Everyone has the right to make the kind of art they want to make. It is not up to Spke Lee to determine what kinds of films different directors / producers can make. Spike Lee has done some excellent work, especially Malcom X and Four Little Girls but he has make some duds as well.

  • http://thegrio.com uhuruhouston

    Nothing here to challenge! Convoluted hogwash. When you said “The Nationalist lost” it proved to me that you’re comprehension level is SUSPECT. Have you ever heard this term “The Struggle Continues” and if you have do you know what it means? If Not I will tell you, IT MEANS THAT IT (THE STRUGGLE) is ONGOING, but it seems you’ve given up from that long dissertation about NOTHING. All you embody is the spirit of a LOSER, QUITTER ETC.

  • Anonymous

    Yes mam. I’m the youngest of 3. My oldest brother is 41.
    I’m my father’s son. But I’m still momma’s 6’2″ 265lbs BABY!!!LOL

  • Anonymous

    You making a big mistake,by agreeing/or accepting anything said by this “TIMH” BIGOT! i think you had better get some glasses,because if you go back and read his comments, i don”t see anywhere that he called “Spike” a Hater” what he called Spike,is actually what he himself is.Namely,a “ANTI-BLACK,RACIST, Piece of SHHHHHHHH! wake up! and “RECOGNIZE!

  • Anonymous

    Wow! hey Black People,can we all just get along?[lol] after reading the majority of the comments posted here,i agree with the “GIST” of what the masses have said,Namely,that SPIKE LEE for the most part,is and will go down as one of the Best,though some may say “CONTROVERSIAL” BLACK FILM-MAKERS/DIRECTORS,of all time.But no one can dispute or challenge his contributions to the black community,with the movies/doc**entaries he has created.And he is right as many of you said previously,to call out “HOLLYWOOD” for it”s racism,and STEREOTYPED” depictions of “BLACK PEOPLE”! and for selectively picking,the kind of “BLACK FILMS” it will allow funding /marketing for.This is why he is “BITTER/somewhat “ANGRY” and he has a right to be,just like most of Black Folk” who have to “NAVIGATE” a white Racist capatilistic,oppressive society.And all you “NEGROES” who throw around that “ANGRY/BITTER JUNK,the way your “WHITE MASTER”does,you had better “RECOGNIZE” we are not ashamed of being angry or bitter.Matter of fact,we are “JUSTIFIED” but the “SLAVEMASTER”throws this terminology around like they used to do back in tha day” when Black freedom fighters were called “MILITANT” and whites were called “RADICALS” it”s the same game,they are playing now in 2012.To “ISOLATE” black men/women they “FEAR” or want other whites to fear” Blacks speaking truth to power.Lastly,in the final analysis we must remember,that “SPIKE/TYLER PERRY are two different people.Though they both are “BLACK” they come from two totally different “Backgrounds” Tyler was “HOMELESS” and was SEXUALLY MOLESTED/OR ABUSED! spike comes from the “East coast GHETTO of Brooklyn New york,His father is a Jazz legend whose name is Bill lee.My point is Tyler is someone,who is lucky to be alive,let alone making movies! and is a little confused? sure but that”s no surprise,after what he has been thru.Spike is entitled to his “OPINION”/VIEWS” but it is not what you do,but the way /how you do what you do.The manner in which he came down on “TP” IS WHAT WAS WRONG! like it or not,people prefer to “LAUGH” rather than “CRY” no matter how silly,or stupid something might be.That”s just life! and when it comes to “COMEDY” we no WHITES” are very “BIZARRE” just like they are when it comes to “SEX/VIOLENCE.So no one should be “MAD” or Jealous,of “TP”‘S SUCCESS! and that goes for “SPIKE as well! it is what it is!

  • Anonymous

    Awwwe.

  • Anonymous

    I think that there are exceptions because there are those of the younger generation who were raised in households where there was an elevated level of black-consciousness and love of one’s (black) roots. Was Terrell Star raised in such a household? What lead him to this opinion of Spike Lee, who is both a griot and prognosticator of Black America?

  • http://twitter.com/dannydel Danny Del Rossi

    Spike Lee is also a hypocrite. Hollywood made him millions. But mostly, Spike Lee comes across as the most miserable human on God’s green earth. Whether he’s mouthing off at an NBA ref as his woeful basketball team fails yet again, or he’s b***hing about Hollywood, Spike is just angry. Maybe its because he was born black…who knows? The only thing I know is that he never smiles and he comes across as one ungrateful dude.

  • Anonymous

    “It’s official”? Are you kidding me? The guy’s been this way since almost forever. It’s too bad because he made a couple good films before his angry racism chewed him up. “Do the Right Thing” is classic, and “X” was also notable, but the majority of his stuff since then is forgettable. While I agree that there’s racism everywhere – including Hollywood – Lee seems to think that although blacks only comprise 13% of the US population the films Hollywood puts out should portray 50% black actors, crew, and above the line people. What an unrealistic and childish notion. “Shut your Face” Spike. LOL!

  • Anonymous

    Spike’s movies stopped working years ago, mostly due to plot and lack of credible character motivation, but also because they operate in a vacuum of created reality that doesn’t ring true to most.

  • Anonymous

    I’m with you, enough of TP & the depiction of demeaning step & fetch geared characters & themes!
    I wouldn’t go to any of his shows or movies even if they were free!
    Spike said it best “Buffonery”!

  • Wayne Wilson

    Anybody any amount of intelligence and depth can do a review Google of Spike Lee’s films and Tyler Perry films and see the difference. Ask any critic of any stature to compare the body of work of both artist and you will see easily Spike wins over Tyler. Tyler Perry movies have the depth and intelligence of a Soap opera. Its pretty pitiful and a testament to why blacks are at the bottom of so many socioeconomic indicators when we are celebrating a minstrel show producer like Perry.

  • Wayne Wilson

    Exactly. What people forget that movies are still a form of art. They dismiss Lee because the money that Perry’s movies make instead of judging it on the content. What Perry is actually doing is locking other artist, actors, and directors in a box where they will have to produce similar product or risk not getting funding from Hollywood. Money is not everything. I seem to recall Batman and Robin movie making a lot of money when it came out but guess what it sucked and no one remembers it unless to ridicule it.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/novelist04/ novelist04

    I get the point you’re trying to make, but you know a website called “White Planet” would most likely be a place where if, say, someone like me (black) would make the exact comment you made, I’d get a string of “Get out of here, n****r, and take your coon president with you!” type of replies. Here, you get a civil rebuttal.
    I hope you continue to comment on this site. Hopefully next time it’ll actually relate to the topic at hand.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/novelist04/ novelist04

    The problem with this whole debate is that it’s divisive. Black movies have become akin to the two-party political system where you must support one kind or the other, in this case Spike Lee (artistic, thought-provoking) vs Tyler Perry (commercial, entertaining). White movies (as they are not known) are divided by genres and by whether or not they’re independent or mainstream. The efforts to make “black films” should stop. Black writers and filmmakers should create movies aimed at genres; instead of making a “black comedy”, just make a comedy and people it with blacks. “Ray” was a movie with black leads and a predominantly black cast, but who’s ever considered it a black movie? Imagine if Spike Lee made a horror film or a romantic comedy. Or if Tyler Perry produced an action flick. Diversification in subject matter is the key to having more choices for us moviegoers.

  • http://profiles.google.com/idolmakersentertainment Idolmakers Entertainment

    The author needs to recognize that all of Spike’s greatest films (pre-1993) were done in collaboration with his then filmmaking partner, Ernest Dickerson. Many of us, I believe, have underscored just how much Dickerson contributed to the quality and success of Lee’s artistry during that early period, just as few recognize that Scorcese’s greatest cinematic triumphs coincided with his collaborative work with Paul Schrader. But ever since moviemaking’s been considered an “auteur’s” game, we wrongly downplay the contributions of collaborators. In each of these cases, the sum is/was greater than its parts.

  • http://twitter.com/regalchevas Chevas D. Samuels

    Sorry, gotta disagree. Lee recently spoke at Arizona State University and ‘cleared up’ some comments about TP. Lee says he never told anyone to boycott TP and would never do that. He said he’d be happy if TP showed some variety in his films. I understand that. TP films are a 1 trick pony. Lee went on to stress how important higher education is. He was very positive and very candid regarding his experiences and what to expect if you want to play the Hollywood game. He spoke very highly of the movie ‘Pariah’ and encouraged us to support ALL black directors. He insists to students to follow their dreams and not a paycheck. Maybe I’m missing something, but has TP ever donated his time to speak to students in a non “Come see my films, go to my website, buy my DVDs, see another Madea play” kind of way?

  • http://twitter.com/regalchevas Chevas D. Samuels

    Sorry, gotta disagree. Lee recently spoke at Arizona State University and ‘cleared up’ some comments about TP. Lee says he never told anyone to boycott TP and would never do that. He said he’d be happy if TP showed some variety in his films. I understand that. TP films are a 1 trick pony. Lee went on to stress how important higher education is. He was very positive and very candid regarding his experiences and what to expect if you want to play the Hollywood game. He spoke very highly of the movie ‘Pariah’ and encouraged us to support ALL black directors. He insists to students to follow their dreams and not a paycheck. Maybe I’m missing something, but has TP ever donated his time to speak to students in a non “Come see my films, go to my website, buy my DVDs, see another Madea play” kind of way?

  • http://twitter.com/regalchevas Chevas D. Samuels

    Sorry, gotta disagree. Lee recently spoke at Arizona State University and ‘cleared up’ some comments about TP. Lee says he never told anyone to boycott TP and would never do that. He said he’d be happy if TP showed some variety in his films. I understand that. TP films are a 1 trick pony. Lee went on to stress how important higher education is. He was very positive and very candid regarding his experiences and what to expect if you want to play the Hollywood game. He spoke very highly of the movie ‘Pariah’ and encouraged us to support ALL black directors. He insists to students to follow their dreams and not a paycheck. Maybe I’m missing something, but has TP ever donated his time to speak to students in a non “Come see my films, go to my website, buy my DVDs, see another Madea play” kind of way?

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/JMBDXZKVR4KEZY62UZNHPBJIZM ChainKutter

    Well said everyone. I totally and 100% agree with you all in regard to TP and his “BLACK FOOLISHNESS!”

  • Anonymous

    TP
    Total Buffoonery, for the most part he plays to a audience that ” I’m pre-Dateing myself” would send away for one of
    Rev Ike’s Prayer cloths &tolerate their mates disrespecting them to the “th” degree!
    Spikes my guy!
    PS: my vision is to see Our PPL STOP, shooting each other!!!
    Mr. Charlie, LOVES those that do!
    Peace!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=663259903 Matt Spence

    yeah, editor you’re deceived. Spike Lee CAN’T make a film the way he wants to thru hollywood cause they don’t care about reality, (as Mr. Lee does) they care about what SELLS. if you don’t see the conflict of integrity in this you should get your “bald head” back to school.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/FHIRHJTRC462DXJS4JXWQRWRIU ANTHONY W

    Spike has been saying the same thing for years and for years he has been correct. When a Black man speaks to the constant damage done to images of himself on the silver screen, folks jump in to condemn him. And, yes, even Black folks will condemn Black folks for pointing out how they are being disrespected. This was happening before we were fed the line that we live in a post racial society and it is amplified now by writers, young and old, who feel that we have an equal playing field and that people like Tyler Perry should be allowed to produce simplistic movies that do not advance us in the least. Movies solidify how we think of ourselves and how others think about us. Yes, we can entertain, but that should not come at the price of our fully fleshed out humanity being shortchanged.

  • Anonymous

    Pooower to the People, Keep On, Keeping Ooon!

  • Anonymous

    Spikey is a limited talent, propped up, agenda driven, PC, compellingly ugly, shaved monkey.
    Watch for my new film spectacular…
    It’s entitled “Stoor”
    It’s “Roots” run backwards…so it has a Happy Ending.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MUWSDISKCYPJNQ4EY2VV4YVFLI PATRIOT in NC

    Lee thinks he’s special just because his skin has a dark brown tint to it. There are MANY talented directors and producers on the planet. He’s average. Clint Eastwood nailed it. “Lee needs to shut his face.” lol

  • Anonymous

    Spike said to send you this “Rekcarc”
    His new trilogy, he stated that your pigment recessive challenged posterior ash, after ingesting enough, you would hopefully have a better outcome in the future! See u @ the tanning booth, U Whipped White Albino Monkey!

  • http://www.facebook.com/kestertaylor Christopher Taylor

    Interesting article on the whole, but I think it’s unfair to imply hypocrisy on Spike Lee’s part re: Jackie Brown. He wasn’t talking about “bad language” in that scenario. He was talking about racist epithets and insensitivity, which are a whole different ball game.

  • http://twitter.com/Hulotat404 Ethan Kutinsky

    In Spike Lee’s defense, he made good movies in the 2000s too – his movies weren’t all bad by the time Jackie Brown came around (although, Girl 6 and Summer of Sam were pretty lousy). Bamboozled is brilliant, caustic filmmaking, 25th Hour still stands with the best movies of the decade, and his Katrina doc**entary, When The Levies Broke, is maybe the only cogent filmmaking statement about that time (the only other movie I can think to even address Katrina at all was the very end of a terrible movie – The Curious Case of Benjamin Button). At the very least, let it be said he has the capacity to revive his gift as a great filmmaker.

  • http://www.facebook.com/kestertaylor Christopher Taylor

    We’re all limited talents. Your limit, as far as trolling, is unfortunately, zero.

  • Anonymous

    Ask George Lucas about trying to get Red Tails made and distributed and you will get a small glimpse of what Spike lives with on a daily basis. When Super Producer/Director George Lucas can’t get the Hollywood establishment to back his film because it’s seen as a “black film”, what kind of obstacles do you think Spike faces and often just because he’s Spike.

    Instead of just focusing on the curse words listen to what the man is saying. Through the curse words hear the pain. The Clint Eastwood Iwo Jima example is most telling. Supposedly telling the story of the historical event, he like the film real producers on the scene in 1944, turned away from the 700-900 African-American men who were part of that war effort. Now I understand why he called it Flags of OUR Fathers (it didn’t include mine). So that’s why they call it HIStory.

  • Anonymous

    I’m white… does that immediately disqualify me from comment? Maybe. But I’ll give it a shot anyway. “X” was one hell of a good film. So were “Do the Right Thing” and “Crooklyn.” So was “Jungle Fever,” for that matter. I know nothing about the new film except the synopsis I just read, which sounds like a good idea.

    And Spike is right in at least this sense: a big box office does not necessarily mean a quality movie, and vice versa. What’s more, sure… Hollywood is not always a warm place for a movie about black themes, perhaps especially not for a movie that just happens to have a story with black people in the majority of the cast.

    Also, okay… so he’s made some bad films. He experiments and that comes with risks. One has to allow for that to happen. People with a lot more money to spend have made a lot bigger mistakes in the cinema.

    That said, I have zero interest in or patience for Tyler Perry films… but I can’t begrudge him his success. And I certainly don’t see it running counterpoint to Lee. There’s room for both to succeed.

    Likewise, part of the great appeal of Lee seemed to be that he wanted to succeed despite that resistance. So it’s sad to see him succ**b to it.

    As for the profanity, he does himself no favors. One could say he’s getting hit for it because he’s SWB (swearing while black), but an expletive-laced white guy griping about the lack of Hollywood fortitude or character would have also done himself damage and have been out of line, especially with kids in presence.

    Here’s hoping Spike gets a grip… it would be a shame to see his talent’s squandered or subsumed.

  • Anonymous

    Blk (loser) inMass,
    Thanks for the laughs.
    Your Crack Syntax and Boogbonix are priceless.
    Now, run quickly out into traffic.

  • Anonymous

    Thanks, Stupitron…
    Re-read your spew.
    Despite your compliment extolling my lack of limits in reasoning and expression, I must admit to your dumb ass that I’m not a god. Your primitive,reflexive adulation is cute—like a baby rat is cute. However, it’s time for you to start swimming back to your fellow worshippers at a New Guinea Cargo Cult where you may resume praying for a return of gift bearing superior beings. That appropriate use of your very limited intellect and flappy lips will keep you busy… and off the Internet and the streets.

  • Anonymous

    I told yo moma the same thing Ray Jay told Kim ” SWACK,SWACK” your Quai Vanilla Nice to @ best YTish & 2 Be exspected!! Opie!
    Run along ant Ty B got that raspberry scotter pie waitin on ya w A Big Chocolate Sicle;) Slurp said Sandusky.hehe!

  • Anonymous

    @Whippit,Stick to what you do Best;
    Doggie want a Big Bone to Chew? Ole BlkInMass waiting on uses;)

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  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Marcia-Smith/100000420238219 Marcia Smith

    It’s unfortunate that Spike Lee does not see that there is more than one point of view for black people and that there is room for both him and TP to succeed. Instead of begrudging Tyler’s success, he could work with him in getting his own projects developed. (Tyler certainly has the means.) I think that Spike is very talented and Malcom X, Inside Man, and Miracle at St. Anna certainly prove that he can compete with the best in Hollywood. (Also, commenting on TP’s sexuality has NOTHING to do with this discussion.)

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Cool_Gee_Rap/ Cool_Gee_Rap

    That is a slogan that is lost on many people. You can call me what ever you want just know that I’m right. Your continuing struggle has employed how many black people? It has made how many black people feel proud of themselves? Say what you want but where is your counter media? Nationalist claim to work with and for the people but where is that work being done? Why is there not some program that is helping kids get educated? I went to a college where there was a strong Nationalist presence and I appreciate their teachings about history and culture but I totally disagreed with their end game. Black people in America are forever changed and this utopian African society that they strive for will not come. I want to believe it but it just aint coming. Until then, I will provide my daughters with a grounded, realistic look of the future and what it means to be black women in America. I don’t want to shakle them with what they can’t do but let them know what they can.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Cool_Gee_Rap/ Cool_Gee_Rap

    That is a slogan that is lost on many people. You can call me what ever you want just know that I’m right. Your continuing struggle has employed how many black people? It has made how many black people feel proud of themselves? Say what you want but where is your counter media? Nationalist claim to work with and for the people but where is that work being done? Why is there not some program that is helping kids get educated? I went to a college where there was a strong Nationalist presence and I appreciate their teachings about history and culture but I totally disagreed with their end game. Black people in America are forever changed and this utopian African society that they strive for will not come. I want to believe it but it just aint coming. Until then, I will provide my daughters with a grounded, realistic look of the future and what it means to be black women in America. I don’t want to shakle them with what they can’t do but let them know what they can. Based on your other posts you are living in a fantasy world. You must be in college. That rhetoric only works there. I got my degree and went into the real world where nobody gives a damm about you, including your so called brothas. Keep marchin brotha, we need somebody to do it!

  • http://thegrio.com uhuruhouston

    Haha, it took you awhile but you finally found more PSYCHO-babble to espouse. I’m sure the term has eluded you and it would to those that were not born with spines and that’s something that I would attribute to a faulty upbringing. Education in this country is and has always been de Facto but you’re one that seems to lean on the fact that you have a “AHEM, DEGREE” and is stupidly bold enough to mention it here as if someone other than yourself cares and this speaks to poor character and vanity but again that’s an issue for your lack of upbringing or your parents. Despite what you may think of the Nationalist, they grow in number simply because the people see that the “turn the other cheek negroes” are not being rewarded well for their treachery. If you learn anything, remember this son, CHANGE IS CONSTANT. To “End Game” that you speak of is, a bi-product of that phrase, “THE STRUGGLE CONTINUES” and this is what has eluded you and there are many facets and variable to the Struggle and for someone that claims “a degree” I think that’s something that you should already know. Hmmmm!!!

  • Anonymous

    Spike Lee best wake up an recognize nobody be shocked by blacks nomo. Yawn. Been there, seen that. Get ova yo lil self ya has been.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/naamangee/ naamangee

    spike wins.anybody hatin on spike is an effing slave!!!!!!!!!

  • Anonymous

    Personally I believe the bitterness comes from the lack of money to support his films. The 80′s and early 90′s were different than it is of late. As he did bring awards hollywood did play him as an angry blackman and he played into it. He’s the older child that took the beating when the younger child gets the passes as in Tyler Perry. Spike means well but is frustrated with what he had to do to get a great movie on the screen. Not accusing any of his late actions but the focus of black ppl in main media were of struggling and gangbanging or drug game. You got to admit that his films did paint us in different lighting. As in being educated and living a life of working hard ppl. Its frustrating to see its easier for other ppl that play the game hollywood would have them play

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JDGY6IFYVTVPTYB2CD5GJSFTSM Jake

    He seems like such a nasty, miserable, little man.

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